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Jameslara1:
Rot in your imaginary hell. For all i care. Better to be frustrated than deceived.

No need to deflect.
You are already burnin here on earth with hot frustrations and Tinubu has only just warmed up, you ain't seen nothing yet in this life. Maybe it would be better you drink JIK today and go to hel than to stick around for the next 65yrs and still go to hellu

Kennitrust:
I once believed in this hell of a thing until I began to ask myself...

Why will God be so silent on man only to him to hell at first encounter we have with him?

Why do God refuse to show me his power to convince me personally of his concern of me but he is thinking of putting me in hell forever?

What critical or serious crime have I committed against God that he chose to put me in hellfire forever?

Do father need to show love to his son for the son love or he needs to be threatened his son with unnecessary and harsh punishment to make his son love him?

We dey Nigeria with harsh economy and struggling everyday to find food and God is sitting somewhere in a comfortable corner and be thinking of how I should die quick so that he takes me to hellfire.

Is that what you want me to believe about God who said, he created me?.

So God cannot give everlasting life here on, it only when I'm in pain and agony, that's when God will consider giving me eternal life while in suffering?

You really make God look like a very wicked creator when he has told us time without number that he thought for us are of good and not this evil manipulative judgement.

Did you not hear whatever you do to your fellow man you do unto him?

So, did you not lie, cheat, steal, murder, break covenant, fornicate, adulteryrate etc?

And when God had sent things your way and life was good for you, did you remember God? Now, you are saying that God does not answer you even up to claiming 'first encounter". Tinubu punis... you dia

RollinTNDA:
That is what I use to destroy their Hellfire Theory because the whole experience of Hell require the person to have
1. Skin
2. Brain
3. Nervous system

Without these 3 things working
The person will not feel a single thing

And guess what doesn't have these 3

A SOUL

Imagine trying to torture something that has no nervous system
The person no get skin no human flesh or body, no lungs, no stomach

So how can you starve that person??
How can you torture that person??

When you point out these loopholes
Their Hell theory begins to look like joke

See high quality self deceit.

See how you react when your girlfriend just gave a toaster her number. She has not even yet bleeped the guy, yet see how you take hala!!!

Come make them inject you with stage 4 cancer make we see whether you no go start to pray for forgiveness as you go dey see hel.

Jumbojax:
Faith cometh by hearing and hearing the word of God

Same thing applies to juju too

Killallmuslims:
Have you been to hell before

The one Tinubu do you, you know feel am?

Uchesis:
The number one pain receptor is the SKIN.

The soul has no skin

Yet how did you feel the pain of your girlfriend sleeping with your neighbour when it did not touch your skin?

Jameslara1:
Because they are Christian’s and Muslims and blaming others is how they worship their mumu gods

Frustration won kpaihy dis one.

Amotolongbo:
At least you could mention concrete things that are evident.
What are the enjoyments you are promised?

When I earn millions, married and all did i tell you? No.

So, don't bother about me jare. I'm very fine!!!!

AntiChristian:
Ah! your hell don start from earth niyen!

Once you die like this. Hell straight!

You are just causing nuisance everywhere!

That means he is one of your sources of hels on this earth

Amotolongbo:
They are all fictions.

At least the “carnally minded” are enjoying the earth and not with the illusions of enjoying heaven that doesn’t exist after death.

Enjoying which earth? Dem dey enjoy am na im dem full beer parlour and hotel dey complain about govt dey deceive themselves with delus?

Urgent1Million:
"Juju" is also a god.
But I doubt if juju works only on the condition that you believe.

Juju also needs the user to believe in it.

psalmsjob:
A living dog is better than a dead lion.

It is not the will of Jesus for you to die but to proclaim his gospel in the land of the living so any of you who does not have a swordshould sell his shirt to buy one.


The way you live your life is more of a testimony to the gospel of Jesus than preaching to convince people to follow Jesus.

Tell them. But them no go hear because dem get plans.

They think they can deceive God.

prinsam30:
Even Jesus say Wen U go to a city and they reject U, my brother pack bags and baggages and flee, my brother if U stay and they kpai U, U go make heaven ooo buh U don kpai for nothing for Ur family, that's foolishness of the highest order

Correct!
Preaching is not by force.

But, i believe some people think that they can bribe God and pervert God's Judgement by preaching

Bahamas95:
It seems I'm the only person who hate this word "UNALIVED"


What's wrong using the appropriate word "KÌLLED?" .......I don't understand Nairaland with it's rules o.

The accurater word is "murdered".

I think they use it to avoid nairaland silly bots against old regular commenters

Urgent1Million:
Read your bible, boy.
If you have faith, you can swallow poison, kiss a viper, swallow a live scorpion, catch exploding b*mbs and moving bullets with your teeth, and nothing will happen to you.
Anyone who kpai while preaching the gospel doesn't have faith and he'll go to hell.

Juju users too use faith to do all these things.

That is and only if you are not one of those of Matthew 7:22-23. If not e go shock you

Because God has made it so, that evil should be condemned by everybody, including those who do it, so that in the end, evil is condemned and the doers also condemn themselves, with their own mouths and acts.

So, all in all, both evil and the doers of evil are permanently condemned at the same time.

A case of killing 2 or more birds with a stone!

That is why the wise see evil and run from it.

SIRTee15:
pls go and read about buddhism b4 exposing your ignorance. budhism teaches humans thru enlightement can attain ultimate transcendental reality. That's a supernatural statement...

Oh! So Buddhism teaches people to delu themselves to escape the pain of real eyeity since God is not going to help them?

So, just like philosophy tries to teach people to live in denial so that they do not face the pain of real eyeity, Buddhism also teaches the same?

No wonder triplechoice and all atheists love it.

Solofresh2:
Respect. I appreciate that.
Dtruthspeaker has a rulebook. I have reality. He has assumptions. I have examples. He has 'never' and 'always.' I have 'sometimes' and 'it depends.'

The truth is rarely black and white. Especially when it comes to people. Any man who says 'no woman would ever' or 'all women are' has already lost the plot. Life doesn't work that way.

Thanks for the kind words.

The truth is black and white in real eyeity unless you are living in the real eyeity of delus eg

Is Teni otedola your wife?
No!

But in your real eyeity of delu mind real eyeity, you can always make her and imagine her as your wife.

However, it is your right to deceive yourself and the bottom line is that it is you who shall carry the consequences of your delus

triplechoice:
You're hallucinating. When did SIRTee come to confirm your *implication " after you said so on this page?

He has not. So who is lying between the two of us?. The page hasn't moved. We are still here and anyone following can confirm he's yet to appear on the thread after your false accusation.

You need to check yourself. Something is really wrong with you. I blame myself for engaging you in the first place.

You are so used to lying that you do not appreciate that this is a thread. In your attempt to try to make Buddhism non religious and Godless, you said

" Yes, Japan practice Buddism, but the religion is non-theistic. It rejects the idea of a creator God who Issues commandments, judges... The Buddha himself taught that believing in gods or God is not useful for those seeking enlightenmen"

And sirtee, getting what you were trying to do corrected you saying

"pls go and read about buddhism b4 exposing your ignorance. budhism teaches humans thru enlightement can attain ultimate transcendental reality....

Yes, Buddhism is a religion. It is not a mere philosophy. It has gods, demons, deities, spirits, ghosts, heaven, hell, rituals, liturgy, worship, prayers, practices, eschatology, soteriology, sacred texts, monastics, etc. Yes, Buddhists believe in gods, many gods. Only the uncreated Creator God is denied.".

So, here again, are your words proving you are lying.

GuestInfinity:
It's nice to see a very logical person like you who thinks critically here on nairaland.

Dtruthspeaker has a very black and white view of women so he may not understand the nuances you're presenting

Life is black and white. It is either you are Teni's husband or you are not. But, of course many people love delus and therefore you love to deceive yourselves. And yet you wonder why you life is hard as you make many silly mistakes.

Anyway, everyone eats the foods of their stupi... or wisdom and shall always eat it. After all for somebody, that food mr eazi showed is the best food in their lives, so no wahala as other people have already pointed out that his thinking is wrong

Oshin56:
whether you marry for love, sex, money or anything. You will still chop waiting you know suppose chop, there's no happy home everybody are trying to manage their home

Say the truth would you choose to be mr eazi or be ned nwoko?

Jumbojax:
That's why relationship with God is not what gets you heaven, It's faith in God that gives heaven

And faith is built on air abi?

triplechoice:
You keep repeating you're "lying" because you can't show where I said it. I never said so, or implied it. I said Buddhism is a religion without a creator God who gives commands. That's what I said, and never corrected it.

I'm done with you.

Modified. And nothing like *end point to his claim". "SIRTee15 retreated to" morality comes from religion" because he couldn't provide evidence for his main argument that "all morality comes from God " A person with one true position doesn't need two. He's arguing deceptively and you're defending him because you're clueless about what he's doing.

Your saying you never said so even after i showed you your own words, and the fact that both i and sirtee responded to that implication, is proof of it. I wonder the day you would ever stop lying..

The beginning of the thread sirtee already told us his position and beliefs and that he was putting it aside to hear from atheists the source of their morality

And I was already done if not for the fact that you were lying, yet again

Konjiboii:
You need to stop watching home video

I don't watch home videos, i watch what real people lives and interview them

Solofresh2:
You asked: 'And those are things that you have not already first taken from her?'

That's a question. I answered it.You don't like the answer, so now you're saying you didn't say it. Classic.

You're not debating. You're deflecting. Every time you get cornered, you pretend you said something else or that I misunderstood. That's not an argument. That's a retreat.

The thread speaks for itself. And it says you lost.

Now you want to pretend that you did not know that it was a rhetorical question.

And if I was to address it, i would have told you, so, you are the only one who can give peace and all? Is it not even because she gave you peace, which you have already taken, is why you were even able to get close to her to talk to her in the first place?

As i said before, you love denials.

Solofresh2:
You're not exposing my denial. You're exposing your own confusion between inference and fact. You're guessing. You're assuming. You're filling gaps. And you're calling it truth.

It's not truth. It's speculation. And speculation without evidence is just noise

You have already advertised your love for self deceit and denials as even you yourself tried to use inferences to make your argument but because you are were wrong is why you are now denying that which you even used.

As I said before, enjoy your denials before they expire.

Solofresh2:
You're asking if peace, loyalty, protection, children, and presence are things I 'take from her first.'
No. Those are things I give. Not take.

Is that what I said?

Now, i understand, you have to bend things to see them. You have better problem oo

Solofresh2:
You're still not answering the actual question.

1.'Filling gaps is not the same as adding and testifying.'
You're right. It's not the same. Filling gaps is worse. Testifying is saying "I know." Filling gaps is saying "I don't know, .

Since, you now know the bold, I'm ok..
And it is obvious you are again in your denial, pretending that you don't know that filling the gap is the application of the words, called making inferences, inductive and deductive reasonings.

As I have said before you love to deceive yourself and you love to live denials

Solofresh2:
You just called Stella Damasus, Toke Makinwa, and Tiwa Savage 'burnt products' and 'grown up promiscuous' That's not an argument. That's misogyny. And it .

Are they not promiscuous?

And then I'm a mysogynist yet i am running your gold digging parade?

Please

Solofresh2:
You're asking what a poor man can give a rich woman. Let me answer.

1. Peace. A rich woman deals with pressure, fake friends, family expectations, and men who want her for her money. A man who gives her peace,no drama, no stress, no games,gives her something money can't buy.

2. Loyalty. Rich women are surrounded by people who want something. A man who stays loyal, who doesn't cheat, who doesn't embarrass her publicly,that's rare. That's valuable.

3. Protection. Not physical only. Emotional. Social. A man who shields her from nonsense, who handles things, who makes her feel safe ,that's not nothing.

4. Children and legacy. If she wants a family, he gives her that. He gives her a name, a home, a future. Money can't buy a good father.

5. Presence. Time. Attention. Effort. A rich woman can buy anything except genuine connection. A man who gives her that is not a gold digger. He's a partner.

A gold digger gives nothing. He takes her money, her resources, her lifestyle and offers nothing in return. He's a parasite.

A man who marries for money but gives back is not a gold digger. He's a strategist. He's trading what he has,loyalty, protection, peace, presence for what she has. That's a transaction. Both sides benefit. That's not deception. That's a deal.

You think it's deception because you assume rich women are stupid. They're not. They know what they're getting. They know why he's there. And if he delivers, they stay.

You're not exposing self-deception. You're exposing your own narrow view of what men can offer. Money isn't the only currency. Peace, loyalty, and presence are worth more than naira to a woman who already has everything else

And those are things that you have not already first taken from her?

Please

triplechoice:
Please allow him to speak for himself. You have misstated his position. His claim is not merely that "morality comes from religion". His claim is that morality comes from God or gods, that atheists/agnostics reject God while borrowing the morality he gave through religion, and therefore hypocrites. That's what I have been responding to. If you can't state it accurately you can't defend it.

Yes, this is his end point of his claim but this part is not in issue as i already told you that you were not addressing the aim of the thread being that in the opening of this thread says, he has put his claim and belief aside to ascertain the source of atheists morality.

triplechoice:
No. The obvious implication of my statement is that Buddhism is a religion without a creator God who gives commands, not that Buddhism isn't a religion. If that distinction is too subtle for you, there's nothing further to discuss, because you won't make sense of anything else either.

Now you are lying for you implied that Buddhism was not a religion which is why both of us pointed out that Buddhism is a religion which you have now corrected. So, no need lying