Christianity Etc › Re: Lessons From The Story Of Jephthah And Human Sacrifice. by Dtruthspeaker: 4:46pm On Sep 03, 2023 |
TheMadame: My issue with people like you is the regular resort to using abusive words on anyone who does not agree with your perception. Why using the word ignorant? The standard operating word in this passage is BURNT OFFERING! No matter how you twist and turn the words of this Bible passage the standard operating word remains BURNT OFFERING. And you do not think to look at The Law of burnt offering Leviticus 1, to see what is commanded! And no human or dog or pig is commanded there! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Lessons From The Story Of Jephthah And Human Sacrifice. by Dtruthspeaker: 4:43pm On Sep 03, 2023 |
Maynman: She is mourning that she has no kids, the purpose of women then was primarily reproduction
What does burnt offering mean? Burnt offering means Leviticus 1: (either cattle, herd or flock.) No human being. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Lessons From The Story Of Jephthah And Human Sacrifice. by Dtruthspeaker: 4:41pm On Sep 03, 2023 |
Dantedasz: Adult claiming ignorance. Quote where Yahweh rejected Jephthah from sacrificing his daughter as a BURNT OFFERING! Burnt offering means Leviticus 1: (either cattle, herd or flock.) No human being. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Lessons From The Story Of Jephthah And Human Sacrifice. by Dtruthspeaker: 10:20am On Sep 03, 2023 |
Maynman: Why didn't hannah call samuel burnt offering? Off Point! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Lessons From The Story Of Jephthah And Human Sacrifice. by Dtruthspeaker: 9:59am On Sep 03, 2023 |
SIRTee15: Let me ask u a question If a judge sentence u to death. And u have 2 months left before the execution. What would be your priority. Moaning over lack of sex, if u are a bachelor- moaning because u will never marry. What u guys are pushing makes no sense at all and u all know it... Look at what you have said, persons awaiting execution of death sentence can never lament solely about loss of sex and marriage. They lament about living and seeing the sun and relatives and people and Solomon in Ecclesiastes shows you. But when you are told that you are going to be castrated or you suffer erectile/penile dysfunction or womb loss or made a monk, sex and marriage are the matters you must be wailing about! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is This A Result Of Demonic Possession Or Not? Before And After Photos by Dtruthspeaker: 9:48am On Sep 03, 2023 |
LordReed: People's behavior is a spectrum, some people like to go to extremes. Fact of life. Na person wey God don Curse dey go extreme! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Lessons From The Story Of Jephthah And Human Sacrifice. by Dtruthspeaker: 9:45am On Sep 03, 2023 |
Maynman: The vow is the burnt offering. You are so twisted and backwards for you to make the end of a statement, the beginning. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Lessons From The Story Of Jephthah And Human Sacrifice. by Dtruthspeaker: 9:39am On Sep 03, 2023 |
Maynman: Judges 11:39 At the end of two months, she returned to her father, after which he carried out the vow he had made regarding her] And what was his vow? Answer: To give her to The Lord like Hannah gave Samuel. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Lessons From The Story Of Jephthah And Human Sacrifice. by Dtruthspeaker: 9:34am On Sep 03, 2023 |
Aemmyjah: Imagine if it were an animal like a dog or a pig that came out to 'greet' Jephthah. Would he have sacrificed it? He will receive a curse What about a leper or an hunchback or an amalekite slave?
I am happy we finally agreed on something We usually land on the same ground a lot of times. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Lessons From The Story Of Jephthah And Human Sacrifice. by Dtruthspeaker: 9:29am On Sep 03, 2023 |
Aemmyjah: And follow someone who says women are from the seed of Satan? Such a misogynist No don't follow me, I am not The Way neither am I The Truth, nor do I give Life! I am only a lover of The Truth aiming to speak The Truth which i have seen and come to know comes from God and is Proven by God and powerfully protected by God hence no one can validly break it, IF IT IS INDEED TRUE. HENCE THE LAW "THERE IS NO VALID ARGUMENT AGAINST THE TRUTH! ' And my posts are right here up for queries a requeries and all in all i stand to be validly and lawfully corrected as you have just done to me over this jephthah's matter. So, I am not asking you to follow me I am asking you to follow He Who is called Jesus Christ, The Way, The Truth and The Life! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Lessons From The Story Of Jephthah And Human Sacrifice. by Dtruthspeaker: 9:17am On Sep 03, 2023 |
Maynman: The verse didn't end in 38.
40 that the daughters of Israel went year by year to lament the daughter of Jephthah the Gileadite four days in the year.
Why were they mourning every year and it even became a custom? Hannah and Joseph/Mary shows you that they go to the temple at least once a year, so that is when they see her and are reminded of her situation. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Lessons From The Story Of Jephthah And Human Sacrifice. by Dtruthspeaker: 9:14am On Sep 03, 2023 |
Aemmyjah: Exactly Also, Jephthah likely had in mind that it was not an animal sacrifice as animals were not kept in Israelite homes neither can an animal come out to greet or meet his owner from war. Only servants and children do that All the same, what he did was noble and he and his daughter, though unnamed are still remembered today but the majority misunderstood it to be him killing her... That is why i hate follow-follow. People always throwing their shitty errors and lies and crooked understanding as though it is solid True before a person gets to even see things for himself. I remember my first reaction was that this did not make any sense for God does not do an evil thing and can never ever support one. However the noise did not let me see things for myself until now. Thanks for the correction. However, in return I respectfully urge you to get out of jw. They are evil and will destroy your soul. If you are fair and True as I have seen in you, you yourself can not deny that they are certainly not from God and Christ. I know that their selling point and appeal is that they would take care of you financially, connectionally and everything you need like a good club. But that is what cults do whether eckanker or olumba olumba or atheism. But they are all one and the same evil using the power of cooperation to entrap your soul. However, I respect your right to choose your associations and I do not say more than this for you know that which is good or evil, to choose therefrom! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is This A Result Of Demonic Possession Or Not? Before And After Photos by Dtruthspeaker: 8:34am On Sep 03, 2023 |
Nebes: It's normal to want to appear like the spirit dwelling within you. She will never be satisfied till she looks like what is driving her.  Apt! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is This A Result Of Demonic Possession Or Not? Before And After Photos by Dtruthspeaker: 8:33am On Sep 03, 2023 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Lessons From The Story Of Jephthah And Human Sacrifice. by Dtruthspeaker: 8:26am On Sep 03, 2023 |
Aemmyjah: Tithes are also sacrifices if you'll agree with me Burnt offerings and sin offerings were sacrificed wholly. We also have grain offering, communion offering, guilt offering, drink offerings, wave offerings, heave offerings. Offerings and sacrifices are similar but not same Offerings could be money An Israelite could sacrifice himself to become a Nazarite for certain period or throughout his days
The tenth of flocks given to the levites who had no inheritance in Israel was so they too could have field amd crops and flocks to tend as they carry out their sacred duties but an Israeli due to distance if transporting his animals could still offer money
Samuel was given as a vow offering Jephthah daughter as well but she was not killed as they Bible says she went to weep of her virginity, nit her death - her prospect of having her raising her own family Besides, any man that of Israel that sacrifice a fellow human even if it were his own child, the way he sacrificed animal, such a man will receive a curse and not a blessing from God... Was Jephthah daughter killed, the answer is No. This is not proof of your case but a fallacy of extension. Tithes and offerings you mentioned are matters prescribed by Law, jephthah's act is not one of these. However, you are still right because most sacrifices are to be undertaken by the Levite as provided by Law, so Jephthah has to deliver his daughter to them and cannot undertake the sacrifice himself. No Israelite can. Therefore jephthah did not burn his daughter as we erroneously thought because of the word "for a burnt offering". For The Law of burnt offering is very precise and it dictates that the offering must be of the cattle and flock. No human is ever used.
So jephthah just gave up his daughter to the service of The Lordd like Hannah gave up Samuel.
So Jephthah'sdaughter was never killed or burnt. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Lessons From The Story Of Jephthah And Human Sacrifice. by Dtruthspeaker: 7:34am On Sep 03, 2023 |
Aemmyjah: To sacrifice means to offer or set apart as a gift to God or a deity Some sacrifices could be land, fields, animals, humans, etc... Only an ignorant person will reason that all living things sacrificed must be killed Prove! |
Christianity Etc › Re: SHOCKING! Another Jehovah Witness Elder Sentenced To Jail For Child Sexual Abuse by Dtruthspeaker: 6:02pm On Sep 02, 2023 |
Prosper1912: Yes most are fabricated You guys are always shameful liars. We all know fabrications when ever they pop out. |
Christianity Etc › Re: SHOCKING! Another Jehovah Witness Elder Sentenced To Jail For Child Sexual Abuse by Dtruthspeaker: 5:52pm On Sep 02, 2023 |
Courz: Yes. Every group is guilty. JWs are special because they have lied to people that they are the One True religion. They are just like other groups. That's the point we are making. Yeah! It's horrible that they add great great lyings to perversion and that would surely make them gap others. |
Christianity Etc › Re: SHOCKING! Another Jehovah Witness Elder Sentenced To Jail For Child Sexual Abuse by Dtruthspeaker: 5:31pm On Sep 02, 2023 |
Courz: Pedophilia Cult. Lovers of Child Sex Trafficking. Guys let's be fair here. Every group is guilty of this. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Dtruthspeaker: 5:07pm On Sep 02, 2023 |
Courz: A Dead person, Charles Taze Russell, has been giving JWS directions according to Watchtower. No wonder na so so dead doctrines dem dey teach dem. Watchtower forms one doctrine. After 5 years, that doctrine is dead. What a pity! It's horrible |
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Dtruthspeaker: 5:03pm On Sep 02, 2023 |
Prosper1912: You wey still dey alive and dey talk like normal human being, still share yr believe with us, abi na only to condemn people doctrine u sabi. I have already presented them. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Lessons From The Story Of Jephthah And Human Sacrifice. by Dtruthspeaker: 4:58pm On Sep 02, 2023*. Modified: 5:15pm On Sep 02, 2023 |
Dantedasz: I bet you see atheists, witches evil and curses in your sleep. You must live a sad,convoluted and tortured life.
Argue with your poorly written story book son.I am done with you. See ad hominem fallacy because he can't answer. All these because you can't eat or sleep, wailing upadan hyperventilating here because of the torments the bible gives him. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Lessons From The Story Of Jephthah And Human Sacrifice. by Dtruthspeaker: 4:52pm On Sep 02, 2023 |
Dantedasz: At emboldened, 1. Your god being omniscient(if he really is omniscient) should have known he did not need to test Abraham. 2. Jephthah is now on his own no longer carrying out the sacrifice to please and worship his God? 3. Comparing a god son(Iesus Chrestus) to a movie character)di Caprio) is apt. The whole Bible comes across as a badly written comic book or movie script.
Just argue with your story book please. Now you have moved post from japhtheh to ominscientness and other stupid issues running through your evil mind looking for endless argument in derailment of this thread. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Lessons From The Story Of Jephthah And Human Sacrifice. by Dtruthspeaker: 4:34pm On Sep 02, 2023 |
Dantedasz: At the emboldened, Is that how a moral God should act in your opinion? A moral benevolent god?? If such an entity loves burnt human flesh so much why not sacrifice Jephthah himself instead of the innocent girl? Or better still give him a ram or goat🐐 to sacrifice?? Argue with your story book mate. You shall surely reap the evil you sow. Every normal person has called it just that the witch who seeks the death of another person's child, her own child must die. And so shall it be unto you. You shall harvest the evil that you plant. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Dtruthspeaker: 4:24pm On Sep 02, 2023 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Lessons From The Story Of Jephthah And Human Sacrifice. by Dtruthspeaker: 4:13pm On Sep 02, 2023 |
Dantedasz: The joke is on you and your fellow Christians. This rubbish is in your religious book. Your god supports and enables human sacrifice to hself. Examples abound in your book. Abraham and Isaac,Jephthah and his nameless daughter and above all the sacrifice of his only begotten son on a stake. The jokes on you son. You are the one talking rubbish for every reasonable person sees that Abraham's own was a Test, Japhtheh was on a frolic of his own, Jesus offered His Life like Leonardo di Caprio did in the movie Titanic to save Elizabeth's life or (leave movie) those people who died protecting their loved ones in the cinema in the US when one devil came to kill them. All within normal human relations. So you are just talking absolute nonsense. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Lessons From The Story Of Jephthah And Human Sacrifice. by Dtruthspeaker: 4:02pm On Sep 02, 2023 |
Dantedasz: Christians never cease to amaze and twist things written in their holy books. The Christian god pretends not to love human sacrifice but encourages it throughout the book. from Abraham and Isaac to Jephthah and his daughter to even his own begotten son Jesus Christ. Pastors in churches seldom or ever preach on the Jephthah conundrum because it puts their god in a bad light. Christians always avoid threads like this one because they have no answers to the questions raised on the morality of human sacrifice of an innocent girl on a bon fire to please a god. the brave Christians will come her and argue in an illogical manner that the girl was not sacrificed but consecrated as a virgin to god. Why must you atheists be evil? If you read the bible, you would see that no where did God issue such a command, but that japhtheh raised it suo moto. And when you read it where you not surprised that someone would make such a vow? If you had any form of morality then you would have appreciated that God Judged him and made him be the one to reap what he sowed instead of another person's child, as you shall reap all that you sow! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Dtruthspeaker: 3:47pm On Sep 02, 2023 |
Janosky: Archangel Michael copied "the Lord JEHOVAH rebuke you" from Zechariah 3:2.
"The Lord JEHOVAH is referenced @ Jude 1:9.
Case closed. Heeey, jw! It is better to be silent than to speak lies. Arc Michael cannot copy future Zechariah! Clearly, You have no valid counter! |
Christianity Etc › Re: No Sex Before Marriage by Dtruthspeaker: 3:35pm On Sep 02, 2023 |
Virgohills: Thinking about it...if you ask a very religious Christian they will say no sex before marriage.
But in reality not every body on earth won't get married, someone men and women will die single. Does that mean if they have sex, God will hate them as his creation?
How do we defend this topic. No sex before marriage is not the same as don't fornicate. Meanwhile fornication kills and makes God far from you. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Dtruthspeaker: 10:13am On Sep 02, 2023 |
Prosper1912: Yeah U seem more reasonable than the other May I know yr religion Translation: i fit beat dis one!  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Cluster Here Let's Discuss About Dreams by Dtruthspeaker: 10:08am On Sep 02, 2023 |
jaephoenix: Sorry, who makes Camry?  That further explains your great stupidity and why you never know things you are supposed to know! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Don't Be Deceived, A Lot Of Christians Today Are Winning Souls For Satan by Dtruthspeaker: 10:05am On Sep 02, 2023 |
LordReed: Bwahahaahahaha! Still saying what you have said before which i have answered. Liarson!  Nyahahahahaha  No Road!  |