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pressplay411:
This is another discussion that might take a whole day unraveling and I have to go now...

I thought the answers to them are easy and are even settled ok, I'll wait.

jaephoenix:
Yeah, so love-filled he kills children that dissed Elijah, newborn babies, burning the sons of Moses’ brother Aaron’s to death for doing what all teenagers do—playing with fire, even killing Israelites for complaining.
Awww. God is truly love

Did they tell you that God is Love means He can not hate?

Did you not hear of the things He hates?

pressplay411:
I don't seem to understand your question. But as always just like old testament, God is the judge of righteousness in the new testament and for ever.

Let me lock down this answer. Thank you.

pressplay411:
However, the Holy Spirit convicts us of sin, righteousness and judgment. John 16:8-13

1) Please what is the meaning of convict?

2) is Holy Spirit, God?

pressplay411:
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What is Righteousness?
It is simply put, being in Right-standing with God.
It is also defined as Obedience to God's commandments.

There is no argument about Righteousness in the old testament. So I will be focusing on the New testament.
Because Righteousness truly is not of works.
Righteousness is imputed by God.
In the old testament, Abraham believed God and it was imputed to him as Righteousness.
Enoch, Noah, Job, Lot, etc were some of the Fathers of Faith who were called Righteous by God, even before there was Laws of Moses.

I did not see you state Who is in charge of righteousness in what you call new testament, so please Who is The God or Judge of Righteousness in what you call new testament?

pressplay411:
I do not agree with your premise simply because saying there's no difference between old and new covenant/testament means nothing changed after the birth, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ?
And means it's pointless naming one old and the other new.

Oh yes that is what it is save that God became silenter and completely quiet that He did not Speak again because He finally Speaks one last time and explains everything to us which He had Said before but men did not listen.

Which is why there is no other Bible after Revelation.

God is watching and waiting for the seasons to play out for He has Spoken but who shall hear?

oteneaaron:
Lol

Happy new year bro.

You can say what you want to.

The historical records are there for you to find out and the research process isn't as tedious as you may think.

Happy new year too.

But there are certain records that are automatically invalid because of the origin from whence they came from. You can not go and ask Satan about God.

sonmvayina:
When and where did God say or written that God will send his son as the new convenant in the Tanakh (OT)?

If I call you mad now you would say I started it whereas you always act like a mad person. We are talking about what people call old and new testament yet you have brought in your mad talk about God and He Who is called Jesus Christ. Keep you madness to yourself o I do not have patience for it at all.

sonmvayina:
According to who??

Do you not have your eyes, head and all to read the Bible for yourself and come to a right and True conclusion?

"According to" is hearsay evidence and hearsay evidence is not acceptable as Truth generally.

oteneaaron:
Jehovah or Yahweh is also known as the evil entity called the DEMIURGE.
According to ancient history, Jehovah is the same person as ...

"According to" is hearsay.

Like asking APC about Atiku or Obi or asking Satan about God!

Olasyke:
Point me to the thread please.

Can't find it.

pressplay411:
Like a lot of Nigerians, I was born into a Christian home but later personally rededicated myself to Christ.

It was a great experience for me personally choosing to follow Christ. I felt his love, the presence of the Holyspirit and so I decided to be discipled.

However, I realised that the body of Christ is divided, even as a local assembly where I worshipped.

Denominationalism is probably the greatest scourge of the church. I remember whenever we went for evangelism it was basically to get people to leave their church and start fellowshiping with us.
In fact you're not really a Christian until you fellowshiped with us.

I also joined a few interdenominational fellowships, most notably Discipleship classes by Bro Gbile.
In this fellowship I realised they condemned most church denominations.
If you've not been in their Discipleship class you're not yet a Christian.

I know of churches where they don't even allow marriages outside their denomination.

It makes me wonder how did we get here since God is not an author of confusion. We are supposed to be united if indeed we believe in the same Jesus Christ.

1 Corinthians 12:12-14
For as the body is one and has many members, but all the members of that one body, being many, are one body, so also is Christ.
For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body—whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free—and have all been made to drink into one Spirit.
For in fact the body is not one member but many.

This scripture makes me question what the body of Christ has become.

Because since Cain weeds will always be among the wheats!

jaephoenix:
Bro, we're having a debate. You mean I should not debate on what I know of?

Debates and Religion is about Truth. And having tested and examined you, what you know and what is True is not the same thing.

pressplay411:
One of the challenges in Christianity is differentiating between the Old Covenant and the New Covenant.

This has created some misunderstanding and given birth to various factions and denominational doctrines within the same Christianity.

I pray that together with the help of the Holy Spirit and the Word, we will be able to clarify these differences.

There is no difference save that the first report lays the beginning of the world and the last report covers the end.

Rubyjade:
Unsolicited advice for the year.

Please, by all means, avoid anything that can make you become a regular in any Nigerian court.

If possible, find all means to settle out of court.

The drainage of energy, emotions, time, effort and resources as the complainant is not what I wish for you this year.

One court case is bad enough, not to talk of pursuing multiple cases at once, you will most likely keep feeding the officials of the law. (lawyers etc)

So once your instinct pick a hole in any major decision you are about to take, please take a long break from such decision till you have triple checked. (Could be business, investment or project)

May God order our steps and may we not work for others to spend this year.

I rest my case.

She is thinks to find a lawyer that she would use to steal her landlord's property because he is dead hence this thread.

She thought it was possible. it is really not about tenancy.

samuel051:
have you seen a soul before or anyone who has seen one and confirm this your claim ?

Have you not seen that dead bodies and mannequins are the same thing but breathing humans are not?

This is a settled issue which you even knew hence why you asked "Is the soul wearing the tattoo or just the flesh?"

So you can not act like you don't know!

samuel051:
have you seen a soul before or anyone who has seen one and confirm this your claim ?

Have you not seen that dead bodies and mannequins are the same thing but breathing humans are not?

This is a settled issue.

jaephoenix:
Cool. So you accept its no christian's job to judge another. So tell that to your buddies here, DTruthSpeaker, Maximus etc

Evil people always hate being judged! But I will lay the Judgements of The Lord!

jaephoenix:
I have been living my life good, bro.

Of course if not you would be dead. But coming here to ask about the Bible which you have denied should not be part of your living.

Techobeys:
Emotional manipulation is not the way to go for someone who knows the truth sir. Using “truth speaker” as your name on Nairaland doesn’t mean you know the truth sir. So I don’t think you’re serious about knowing or speaking the truth by trying to emotionally manipulate me.

Now you resort to false accusation and personal attack because you find that you are not able to validly counter.

This is just a case of since you can not argue therefore you attack your opponent.

I don't know you nor do I care to know you nor do I want anything from you.

All I care about is that the Truth be proclaimed and after that, I don't care about anyone for

No one can persuade another to change. Each of us guards a gate of change that can only be opened from the inside by the person himself. We cannot open the gate of another by argument or anything. Marilyn Ferguson.

So, I am not even trying to convince you. I am satisfied with the fact that you can not give a valid counter.

Techobeys:
What matters is the topic we’re discussing. Which is that your belief about eternal burning of any soul is unscriptural and it’s coming from a place of hate and violence in your heart.

It’s not the judgment of mercy of God but of the Adamic wickedness in your soul sir. It’s just a Greek and Babylonian myth bc it’s there in these that Zeus will torment his enemies in hades forever but scriptures do not support such baseless claims.

Maybe you’re only a Christian bc you fear this eternal burning of certain people and now you’re defending it bc you feel lost; your reason for being a Christian had been a lie all along. You hate that no one is going to burn forever so you want to continue to hold people in fear or hate for God.

Every rational human being knows that this judgment is not perfect neither is it just but the heart you have is a heart that want to make people hate Christ for no reason. You also want to retain Christians in nonsensical beliefs so they remain Christians by fear of this wicked judgment in your heart.

You want God to torment them forever so you can watch them suffer so that the wickedness in your soul can feel satisfied. Alas you shall not get this satisfaction sir, bc only the devil and his cohorts will face that fate.

Our God is a just God sir. Go and study and stop this continued bickering on a topic you lack proper understanding. Do have a great day sir, I hope this silences you but if it doesn’t, then I have left the floor for you. Good bye.

Now you have disclosed your own personal issues and reasons for attacking me which you could have presented or asked about without you attacking me personally.

And in response to your outburst, all I say is that you thought it was a joke when The Lord said "Vengeance is mine. I will repay." And that we should not revenge.

And if you look through the Bible you would see that The Lord has not even avenged Himself of the crimes done personally to Him eg the golden calf affair or Cains murder of Abel, or murders of His Servants, Even the murder of His Own Self when He Came to the earth, His Friends and family.

Now you know why He said we should not revenge.

As all your evil and wickedness is great and is eternal so also is the repayment great and eternal hence The Law of and eye for an eye.

Which is why God Said do good so that the good you do, would be repayed.

Proverbs 13:21
Evil pursueth sinners: (obviously it catches up with them in the lake of fire) but to the righteous good shall be repayed.

Vengeance repayed and The Law of an eye for an eye implemented. Just is Served and Delivered.

So just say that you can not bear the real eyeity that your hope and wish and desire that eternal torment has an end which is where you burst into emptiness and end of pain and torment has been quashed by me.

Therefore your hope to manage and endure the fire has been weakened.

jaephoenix:
Why do you think I became an atheist? Its because I've checked all those things and found out they're all false and fake

If you have checked it out and you find it false then you should not be here asking.

You can live your life while we live ours.

acewines:
Where's the thread pls..

I could not find it o. This is the one I saw. https://www.nairaland.com/999283/fastest-speed-ever-driven-car#11553427

In that other one people posted pics of the speed needles. It was amazing

After the believing hope you would live according to the your belief.

'He does not believe that does not live according to his belief" Thomas Fuller

Techobeys:
It’s not implied sir. You’re only interpreting it that way bc of what you’ve already believed.

Respectfully, it is implied. Everything has its implication. If water pours on you, then it impliedly means that you are wet!

Techobeys:
For a person to inexist forever, that’s also eternal punishment.

That is not true, punishment is for things that live. Punishment ceases when a thing ceases to live and exist.

Techobeys:
The highlighted part is highly unnecessary if you’re saying the truth sir. This is emotional manipulation. The truth of the scriptures must be established and defended irrespective of your beliefs sir.

Sorry, I do not permit people to run or hide from the Truth, so I will always throw it in their faces.

'Truth is so rare that it is delightful to tell it." Emily Dickinson

Facing the Truth is the Way to Eternial Life of goodness

"The truth will set you free, but first it will make you miserable." James A. Garfield

samuel051:
2. Is the soul wearing the tattoo or just the flesh?
I need answers..

Like a driver to a Rolls Royce, the soul is a driver to the flesh (body). Thus, like the driver of the Rolls is responsible for every mark and cuts on the rolls, so is the soul responsible for every marking or cut on the body.

emonkey:
Tattoo looks like an undeniable sign of worldliness and not paying heed to God's words. The bible says in Leviticus 19:28, "You shall not make any cuts on your body for the dead or tattoo yourselves: I am the Lord."
What do you say? Don't insult me I am only showing you Bible.

samuel051:
1. Is the tattooed body going to heaven or soul?

First you are not going to heaven but those who are qualified will be going to a new heaven and earth that God would create.

Secondly, those who did not make the new heaven and earth will wake up to be burnt with this earth and after that they would continue their burning in lake of Fire.

jaephoenix:
Can you give us the relevant verses and the associated prophecies? Please no gaslighting

Yet you said you were S.U. and yet you do not know what is in the Bible. Since you did not want to know then, then you are not entitled to know now.

HellVictorinho6:
You don't have 20k to give anything alive.
I don't need the wisdom your friend is talking about.
I rather remain useless to you guys.

Your loss and your usenoneness!

jaephoenix:
Lol. Bro, I was an ex-christian. Precisely Pentecostal. Then also an ex-Scripture Union.
Then was an ex Christian Union back in school.
The Bible said Israel would be raped etc etc. But the problem is yall christians are confused. When Israel is raped, y'all tell us god said it. Then when they win a war, y'all tell us god is protecting them based on his promise. I'm not hoodwinked by such inconsistency. Only cretards are

See an ex church goer who never read nor understood the Bible he carried up and down and chanted, yet you thought you were Christian whereas, you were an atheists in hiding as I have always said you atheists are!

If you had read the Bible you would have seen where God helped them and they won and when He cast them away and they were destroyed. How you did not understand this is just proof of how long you have been unwell.

jaephoenix:
Really, he changed plans? And intimated only his earthly scribe DTruthSpeaker? Interesting. So what's the details of his heavenly plans, sire?

What is your business with God's plans after all you belong to satan? Like anyone tells their enemies their plans.

jaephoenix:
Ah, the gaslighting begins in full force

Why must you talk when you do not have any intelligent thing to say?

Techobeys:
This is not true sir, when you burn something to ash, it’ll definitely give smoke. Ashes will continue to give smoke even after something is completely burnt.

So also does smoke come out at the beginning of Fire and as long as there is fire there is smoke and by Leviticus God is warning us that He has a Fire that never goes out, hence smoke will always be there.

Techobeys:
The bible doesn’t say people will burn forever

It is implied

Matthew 25:46
These will go away into eternal punishment,

Meaning unending punishment.

You guys do not want to real eyes that it is God you are talking about o. Who made dust to live. If dust can live is it now Ash?

Can iPhone die if Steve Jobs does not permit it? No!

That is why Job and psalms warns FEAR YOUR CREATOR! HE CAN DO ANYTHING HE HAS EVEN TOLD US NOTHING, ABSOLUTELY NO THING IS IMPOSSIBLE WITH HIM. ASHES AND DUST LIVE BECAUSE HE MADE THEM LIVE AND DID NOT PERMIT THEM TO GO POOF!

dierich:
I'm sorry to say this but all u wrote here is just .......... Make I no talk

Okay! Just used the opportunity to help others who could be salvaged.