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AntiChristian:
You can pay with blood only if you're a ritualist or yahoo plus!

That is what is called blood transfusion.

AntiChristian:
There's no vicarious atonement without the death of your God!

When God does then there's a problem!
Death is a problem!

God can't die!

When I pay your debt eg rent i have vicariously atoned your liability.

MindHacker9009:
You are a LIER, a deceiver and an empty vessel that's why you always like to display your insanity when you see the truth with facts since you are too lazy to do any research other than holding on to the liers you have been brainwashed with

See display of madness!

When The Debate Is Lost, Slander and Madness Becomes The Tool Of The Loser

oteneaaron:
Lol.

Do you honestly think I am doing any research to please you?...

As is your right but in the end when you give us the result of your inquiry, let it be True because Truth is what guides
and protects our life while Lies kill us

coputa:
Man was not created perfect by God,our creator,God knows this,hence,his grace was made available for man.It takes his grace to live above sin.

How you people read and comprehend is a wonder. Did you not see that man was created perfect at the beginning before and until he fell on his own?

Since he is the one who fell is he not the one who is to get back up again (if he likes) and return to his perfection? hence the commandment of "be ye perfect"!

oteneaaron:
Lol.

At least a "layman" like is me is willing to do research to understand the true origins of the creeds he grew up with.

Unlike you who so "learned", but still mentally lazy to do any research.

Live and let live.

While you are still doing research, we have long since concluded Truth finding and waiting on you to show the results of your quest if you found The Truth.

Which is why I am here.

And right now, none of you have been able to show credible and proper proof of your claim.

Thus you are guys are just

People swallow greedily any lie that flatters them,..Denis Diderot

[quote author=MindHacker9009 9post=118902249]You are a LIER and a deceiver that's why you always like to display your insanity when you see the truth[/quote]See, you are just shouting exactly how empty vessels do because you have no proof!

MindHacker9009:
Flavius Josephus was a first century Romano Jewish historian and he wrote about events during his own time.

Change of post and hearsay. No one asked about Flav J

oteneaaron:
...But like I mentioned earlier, in the search for truth, we must be willing to hear all sides of the story and make our conclusions by our own volition.

Live and let live.

And that is the difference between the learned people in courts and you laymen. You people think to do anyhow to get at Truth only for you to come out with unacceptable cockroach piss.

You do not get Truth by hearing all sides BUT BY HEARING THE RELEVANT SIDES. THIIS IS WHERE THE LAW OF GIVING TRUTH AKA "LAW OF EVIDENCE" FOR SBORT, COMES IN.

And the relevant people who should have been a guide in leading to the Truth of this issue (see locus standi) did not do so. Eg like Tinubu:s grandson coming to say that Mohammed was invented by the British to unify northern Nigeria as obtained from a book, is that right?

MindHacker9009:
You are a LIER and a deceiver so stay out of this as it has nothing to do with you.

Shout and scream and display your insanity, but what is seen is "All talk and repetitions of talk" no Proof!

MessiahMARLIANS:
You are right.


This is the reason we are revealing the ROOT PROBLEM of The Misalignment of The People of God from THE GENESIS OF THE BIBLE - "The Very Beginning."




Alot of people are Enslaved and Living Against The Coordination of The DAY and TIME of Life.... Hence; They Live Confusingly in Worries of Financial Hardships and Agonies.

The first problem is that people are their own guide and rulers and do not real eyes that they are very very stupid even after their several several failures.

They never learn and most will never learn.

MindHacker9009:
Emperor Constantine used Christainity to unify all the different religions in Rome at the time. From my personal experience I find those who say they are following Jesus Christ are just using it as a cover for other stuff they are into and those who truly believe in Jesus Christ are just the gullible ones.

Did you know that the **** was founded by an Anglican pastor? During the colonial period the missionaries who brought Jesus Christ to Nigeria were aware of this. So churches that broke out of the Roman Catholic Church does not mean they got closer to the TRUE GOD of the Old Testament.

Change of Post!

No one is asking about how Constantine unified shiit or Anglican pastor. We are waiting to see how you you can prove the Truth of your claim, which is not standing at all.

All you people are doing is repeating your statements again and again which is Constantine created shit, this person says that Rome created it, (hearsay evidence).

NOTHING MORE WHICH IS EXACTLY HOW ALL LIES ARE.

AntiChristian:
Yeah! More stupid in Christianity!

Like God sending himself to be killed!

See how you prove you are stupidity itself in not seeing that God's action shows that death is not a problem. And you stupidly forgot that you have changed post. Fool.

AntiChristian:
Where did you seen any verse from the Qu'ran in the copy and paste you posted?

Christian paganism don blind you!

Your inability to counter in this thread says it all after all the op knows your Koran

https://www.nairaland.com/7462225/allahs-shameful-command-prostitution-muslims

coputa:
A church is like a training ground to improve the imperfection of man,no one is righteous,no not one.But the public always expect christians including pastors and evangelist to be infallible,but it's not so, because they're human.Its just a platform to build your faith from continually hearing the word of God.

Exodus 18:20/21 is The Law

Moreover thou shalt provide out of all the people able men, such as fear God, men of truth, hating covetousness and place such over them, to be rulers of thousands, and rulers of hundreds, rulers of fifties, and rulers of tens:

Moh247:
True... However the church might be for the sinners but only the righteous should mount the pulpit and preach the word of God


Just as the majority of people in an hospital are sick, the doctors and nurses must always remain healthy and fit

Perfect and Accurate.

The blind cannot give sight to the blind. That is The Law.

MessiahMARLIANS:
Your points are valid.

However;

This is not my direction.


You'll see my direction of point when you calm down and don't rush to place your personal verdict.

I understand.

I just think that before a building is raised, The Foundations must be laid first for the foundation is what determines and shapens the building.

MaxInDHouse:
Naaaaaaaaaaaaa only the REPENTANT should!..

A Repentant means one who has stopped sinning meaning, he has become right doing therefore righteous.

So in the end he is perfectly right.

MessiahMARLIANS:
The Root Problem of The Many Problems of Christians Begin from Their Misinterpretation of The Biblical Genesis

Wrong!

The problem is that people think that church going and Bible reading means Christianity.

Meanwhile, the only Way to be a Christian is to Fear God, Obey all He says and run away from doing the evil.

Lawag3:
Strikingly, there was never any debate in the ancient world about whether Jesus of Nazareth was a historical figure. In the earliest literature of the Jewish Rabbis, Jesus was denounced as the illegitimate child of Mary and a sorcerer. Among pagans, the satirist Lucian and philosopher Celsus dismissed Jesus as a scoundrel, but we know of no one in the ancient world who questioned whether Jesus lived.

And this is one of the proofs of Truth.

It is known if PDP did something wrong APC must complain about it and the record will be there most especially as devil's hate Jesus, so immediately, like APC their will be plenty plenty of records.

But until these liars who were not there came up to start lying, none of this happened.

oteneaaron:
If only people would actually read the book the OP mentioned and weigh the options for themselves.

Instead, they would rather argue and dish out insults.

In the search for truth, we must be willing to hear all sides of the argument - then decide by our own volition on which side of the fence we belong to.

But unfortunately, majority of people are too lazy to do any research.

It you are interested, here are some books to aid in your research into the history and origins of the Jesus story.

1. Ceasar's Messiah - as mentioned by the OP

2. Who is This King of Glory? - by Alvin Boyd Khun

3. The Pagan Christ - by Tom Hapur

4. Who Was Jesus? Fingerprints of the Christ - by DM Murdock

5. The Jesus Mysteries; Was the Original Jesus a Pagan God? - by Timothy Freke and Peter Gandy

Don't be intellectually lazy, question everything, study, do research and open your mind.

It is the best thing you could ever do for yourself.

Books are not the wells of Truth, Truth is dug out by your own use of your hands and feet and facilities.

And this is full time reliance on "Dem Say" (hearsay evidence) which is not an evidence of Truth.

So this is just a case of you swallowing up the Lie you like.

People swallow greedily any lie that flatters them, but sip only little by little (or not sip at all) at a truth they find bitter.

Denis Diderot

guysbewise:
What you need to find out is why did no historian during the time of Jesus Christ write anything about Jesus Christ and what did the Romans do to all the Jewish Holy Books they found in Israel?

Books are usually written when the person is dead eg Micheal Jackson, Awolowo, Biggie, Tupac etc

So you have no thing

AntiChristian:
It seems Christianity can't even agree on their book any longer!

Better than your Allah's

TenQ:
Allah's shameful command of Prostitution for Muslims

Introduction:
In Islam, there is a concept of TEMPORARY Marriage or almost literally "Pleasure Marriage" where a Muslim man may RENT for the purpose of SEX a willing Muslim woman or another muslim's slave for a certain agreed amount (in cash or in kind) for a short time (from a few hours to a few days).

This important command from Allah is buttressed by an instruction that the Muslim men should be honourable to PAY the agreed fee and in another command that a Muslim slave who chooses chastity should NOT be forced into Prostitution by her Muslim slave owners who desires to make money by organised prostitution as a love-vendor.

babajero:
Christians are not "allowed" to sin whether for monetary purpose or not, a christian can commit or may commit sin due to the human nature, but have to repent of it and pray for forgiveness. Anybody who openly commits sin and still claim a christian "is not" or a "rebellious christian" because you can't claim to be a christian and still go against "the Word" and "the Will" of God.

Many are going mad!

AntiChristian:
Why is almost everything in Christianity from paganism?

Paganism means Natural Law and Natural Law means Power of God on earth. And the nations of the earth were all naturalist before they became more stupid

Denoh68:
I'm pentecostal, but I don't believe in the doctrine of trinity.I don't celebrate birthdays new years and Christmas,

Your Bible does not have 1 John 5:7

guysbewise:
You are the one showing your madness if not you would have studied official Roman occupation of Israel at the time to know the it was a war zone between the Jewish zealots that were following the instructions in their Torah to defeat the Romans from there Holy land

Exactly what you have been saying since you went insane from the drugs that blew you up when you went across the sea.

guysbewise:
If you're not the one insane then you would know that the virgin birth and the FAKE messiah of the Jews was a psychological tool to control the minds of people at the time as they were all expecting a messiah like David to deliver them from Roman occupation.

See, you have no thing other than crying "fake, fake, fake" desperately appealing to people to accept your madness.

That surely shows us how empty it is. And obviously considering the newness of this moniker this is another moniker of one of the nairaland's insane people who sells this rotten meatpie called sonmvayina.

Aemmyjah:
That is very unkind bro

There is no kind words to be given to the foolish!

MufasaLion:
An ignorant and brainwashed creature is on the loose.

You are talking about yourself having being brainwashed into ignoring obvious and clear Truth.

sqlPAIN:
I was not sure where to post this, but I thought this section would be befitting because my hypothesis would attract more religious oppositions than any other.

The hypothesis

Everything in this universe makes sense because "Forever" does not exist.

We live? -> We can't live forever because "Forever" does not exist and that is why we die
We die? -> We can't die or stay dead forever because "Forever" does not exist and that is why we live( this makes the thought of living with God in paradise "Forever" and the whole idea of religion seem like fallacy to me)

Even a computer programme that is set to count from one to infinity can not count forever because "forever" is not in the dictionary of our universe, even the universe itself, can't live forever because forever does not exist.

Everything in the universe and I mean everything, that has a beginning, is bound to have an end. And everything that has an end surely is bound to have a new beginning because it can't stay ended forever...

That is what the BlackBerry, the Concord plane and Nigerian airways thought before they kicked off the world forever.

guysbewise:
Yes it does, as the Christ added was the invention...

And this is why many would call you insane. We know inventions. Things fall apart/Othello/Chike and the River are all inventions which we were made to learn in school while the British invaded us and we knew they were not True.

So, everything is wrong with you if you are not able to tell the difference between an invention and a Truth.