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MaxInDHouse:
And they have built the high places of Tophet, which is in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire; which I commanded them not, neither came it into my heart. Jeremiah 7:31

The wages of sin is death {Romans 6:23 compare to Genesis 2:17} God's word says at death man has been discharged from all his sins because he has fully paid for it at death! Romans 6:7

Every reasonable person sees that this 2 passages do not connect at all. Like putting a spark plug into a radio and saying "see, the radio is working"! Working bawo!

HedwigesMaduro:
You're even worse. I know you don't have enough brain cells to process analogy. I understand with you. If it's not too straight forward you can't grasp it.

Words from a Failure. The only way you people have something to say over any issue is by leaving the issue (Changing Post). You people will not have any reasonable thing to say if you stick to the issue in focus.

kimco:
How ignorant....who was going to the farm at 80 and 90?

How can you know anything when you are a child born in this world where you are taught nothing useful. And then your parents do not take you travelling. And should you travel, you do not look outside at all. How would you not be full of emptiness?

Take a trip to Delta, Akwa-ibom, Niger states and see your great grandma (I am certain your grandma may be 50 years so great grandma is it) still pushing her bicycle as she goes to her farm even today. (If you even travel by road, that is)

kimco:
If you dont kow that this day, the day you find yourself is the best time to be alive..

Crime section just shouted "small pikin no talk, comot for here"!

I know you are trying to cope and think the best out of this useless, jobless, goodless world else, you would off yourself! So carry the world the way you want to see it without having to ridicule yourself.

Please, this issue has expired.

HardMirror:
hehehe. what a joke. weaklings

Haha, what a misery looking for company.

efficiencie:
Now do we, as the Jews still following Moses, offer a lamb during the passover? No. Our passover sacrifice is the LORD Jesus Christ. Do we eat the roasted flesh of a passover lamb with bitter herbs as the Jews do? No, we eat the flesh of Jesus and drink His blood whenever you we celebrate the passover (what some call "holy communion" ). Jesus Himself said concerning this, "my flesh is meat indeed and my blood is drink indeed" (John 6:55).

When you say "Our passover sacrifice is the LORD Jesus Christ/we eat the flesh of Jesus and drink His blood", is that not us not still following The Law which God gave Moses, to be A Law Forever?

Someoneschild2:
Here is how i look at the idea;
God is described as a being who abounds in knowledge. Something mere mortals may seem to lack.

Being able to see "the end from the beginning" will mean He sees the outcome(s) of our choice(s) when we make them. Say for example; I go to a bar and I had enough alcohol to knock me out. I pick up my car keys and I'm ready to drive back home.

What will be the outcome of having a drunk driver behind the wheel?

Perfect!

Someoneschild2:
A person has no power to choose;
1. Which family he is born into (rich or poor).
2. Which nationality he is born into.
3. Which race he is born into.
4. What genetic defect/advantage he will inherit.
5. Which religion he becomes adherent to (at least at the time of his birth)

Etc.

Did God choose these for such a person? I can't say because that will snowball into a different kind of argument altogether but i hope you see my point.

You can only that you are afraid of knowing the Truth Full Answer.

Can an iPhone choose the country, family and race it would end up in?

That is why we are creations exactly as the iPhone. You will be wherever your Creator places you.

iykbethany:
According to the bible, God can see the end from the beginning. Does it mean He already knew we would be black people born in a shit hole country and that buhari would be our president and that we will see shege?

And he's so cool with all of these? He even watches Boko haram and kidnappers kill innocent people and He can't defend us as our father.

Oh I forgot, the bible say we should be olodo and shouldn't reason like humans. Its alright �

That is what end times means! Now it's time to eat the fruit of your farm.

HardMirror:
Glad you are even honest. You were boasting how you were enjoying god's blessings, now you are saying you are miserable. lol

All who are miserable clearly means people like you who are miserable. And I am not there. I am in Joy Unspeakable
and from there looking over at you poor miserable people, struggling for everything.

HardMirror:
yes i never said we are not all miserable. I said you guys are the MOST MISERABLY

Miserability is miserability and all who are miserable like you ARE MISERABLE. So you have said no thing.

fergusen:
Are we all sinners?

I was following a conversation on Facebook and the majority of commenters were like, "we are all sinners", "Nobody is/can be righteous", and so on.

Help us understand what Titus was trying to say.

Mathew 7:16-20 answers it.

Is your fruit good? Do you naturally produce good fruits?

HardMirror:
the most miserably people on earth are religious people.

Change of post! The topic is not about the most miserable people on earth.

But to say a little, the peoples of the world are all miserable ALL TOGETHER, EXCEPT THOSE WHO FOUND ENTERED INTO GOD'S SWEET REST! AND I AM ONE OF THEM.

HedwigesMaduro:
Oh! It's your type again? The braindead type that just don't even reason before they talk. Do you know how many people have been assassinated due to businesses gone wrong, partnership gone wrong etc? Theredore, doing business is a sin. That's the "logic" you just spouted. By the way, wipe off that Pharisee mentality you're carrying about thinking you're better or holier than anybody. It makes you sound stvpid.

Change of Post! See who attempts to claim to intelligent, yet responded to a social studies question by answering it with business studies. Surely a merited F9

The issue is destruction arising from sex and not "business gone wrong".

HardMirror:
hehehe. your stupidity knows no bounds. You think we atheists are not enjoying life? lol.
if you call my eyes opening falling, then i am grateful i fell. Falling has been the best thing that has ever happened to me.

Do you think we do not meet you people and see how horrible life truly is for you people, even if some of you have acquired a A/c cars and houses?

Sure, he that hath substance is better than he that honoureth himself, yet lacketh bread. But Michael Jackson, Heath Ledger, Christopher Reeves Whitney Houston and co acquired the whole world, yet life was tasteless and meaningless.

So whether in much substance or in penury, life is horrible without The Lord.

Ken4Christ:
You don't know the Lord nor understand his ways.

If I did not know The Lord and understand His Ways, I will never have been blessed. I would have been suffering as you all especially in these troublelation times. Stagnation, Starvation, Disappointment, Despair, Desolation, Failures, Hardship etc.

But, it is not so with me. Every week I prosper moving from one favour to another, with all my prayers granted, EXACTLY AS WRITTEN.

Ken4Christ:
If you do, you will know that his mercies have no boundary...

I have already shown you His boundaries and the people who fell out. All written in the Bible for all to see. So if you like, refuse to see, it is your own soul you destroy.

So, do as you may but in the end you will fall like HardMirror and other atheists who have all done exactly as you have done. You are not the first. All thinking that they were Christians because they said some words and fasted and prayed and some water was poured on them or dipped in river in the name of baptism and evangelized yet, God did not know them neither did He Answer their prayers.

As I said We each walk the path, that we've chosen shall eat whatever we find there, whether good or evil.

Paramountgift:
[b]The reason is because they haven't met Jesus. They don't know God....

Name one good person who went to hell.

HedwigesMaduro:
In your fantasy world, or according to the Bible?

How many men do you need to hear crying out how sex has destroyed them before you know like this man?

https://www.nairaland.com/7353840/newly-married-artisan-burns-self#117043120 or

https://www.nairaland.com/7354315/kenya-woman-kills-husband-before#117050432

Is it because you yourself are dead and therefore can not feel?

There are other young boys and girls who are not yet dead who do not want to die out here who need to know what things kill them.

Ken4Christ:
Even you yourself will not make heaven if it's only one opportunity that you are given to repent....

I would have given you a different answer that would not help you but I do wish you Truly find that Good Place, Where The Lord is.

Eternal Life and death starts here and The Place of the guarantee of Eternal Life is He who finds that Place in Psalm 23.

And I found it and I live there, for o what goodness and favours and blessings daily, weekly and monthly pursue me and wait for me in my going out and my coming in, such that my own family members hate and fear me for I have found The Lord, and His Way EXACTLY AS WRITTEN.

Jeremiah 7:23
“But this thing commanded I them, saying, OBEY MY VOICE, and I will be your God, and ye shall be my people: and walk ye IN ALL THE WAYS THAT I HAVE COMMANDED YOU, that it may be well unto you.”

And The Law hath commandeth
"And thou shalt do that which is right and good in the sight of the Lord: that it may be well with thee,.." Deut. 6:18

"Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the Lord, and he will have mercy upon him;" Isaiah 55:7

That is The Only Way; or rather The Only Good Filled and Life Giving Way. All other ways are failures and death. (I checked and Solomon completed the other checks I was going to check)

So I absolutely certainy know that that is The Only Good Way. The Way which The Lord had made for our salvation and good living and eternal life.

But as I always say, I respect the power that people have a right to manufacture or find their own way.

Bfly:
Cain did not even know what he did until God brought it to his awareness.

C'mon stop it is absolutely indefensible.

1. The Lord first warned him of it "sin lieth at the door" and even reminded him that he was still the head. Genesis 4:7

2.) His tone "am I my brother's keeper?" tells us everything especially as we all still say it that way till tomorrow.

This matter is over.

"We each walk the path, that we've chosen" Dmx

HedwigesMaduro:
You guys are more fixated on sex aand masturbation at times I always wonder if your "Christianity" is more about looking for sins to discuss or about serving God.

Because sex is the sweetest and the most efficient and popular killer of men with a success kill rate of 99%.

famozine1:
Am not asking this question so I can continue In one with least affect because both are very dangerous am asking to know how far I need to go spiritually to get my self back from this evil forces

All are destructive like the movie Final Destination choreographed destruction from any initial point whether masturbation or fornication or adultery or pride.

The only safe and good place is THE WAY!

Bfly:
Adam passed evil to everyone in which murder is a kind.

Wrong!

He did not pass evil. He passed the ability of differentiating something that is evil from something that is not evil.

And knowing the difference between things is not a crime.

The crime is always in the doing aka didding aka deeding!

Snitch24:
im sorry but the truth is that nothing is free
not even death

The choice of choosing was free.

Snitch24:
i would argue this with you bro
theres nothing like free will here
nothing
religion
skin colour
family background etc
where is the free will

The free will of choosing to do only the things which are good and running away from doing those things which are wicked!

Eg refusing to sleep with people's wives and daughters, assisting the poor, being humble instead of proud etc

iykbethany:
According to the bible, God can see the end from the beginning. Does it mean He already knew we would be black people born in a shit hole country and that buhari would be our president and that we will see shege?

And he's so cool with all of these? He even watches Boko haram and kidnappers kill innocent people and He can't defend us as our father.

Oh I forgot, the bible say we should be olodo and shouldn't reason like humans. Its alright �

Did He not warn you people to stop being wicked and that if you plant wickedness you will harvest wickedness?

Now you people are harvesting the evils you planted, so don't disturb God O. He warned you all.

Danniedpastor:
How is that connected to what I responded to?

Danniedpastor(m): 2:30pm On Sep 25
Danniedpastor:

...Which Bible did you see this trash?

Answer
Mathew 7:16-20 is The Law.

Grape Tree cannot born Sweet Mango.

Wilgrea7:
I don't remember asking Satan for anything. If i don't believe in your God, what makes you think I'll believe in your satan?

Always deviating from issues and post.

Did I say you asked anyone? Did I ask you to believe in any of them?

Wilgrea7:
Also, your God Satan analogy fails to address the topic at hand. Christians, just like everyone else, still experience bad things, even though they claim their God is supposed to eliminate such experiences from their lives.

Again, deviation from post
That is not the question you asked.

You alligned with like in his question

"Wilgrea7(m): 2:09pm On Sep 25
LikeAking:

Why should someone worship a diety that claims to be the creator of the world and still suffer various set backs.

What's the essessence of having a God? Even humans with God fathers enjoy certain privillages. Even kids with school mothers and fathers enjoy certain privillages. Why will people with a big God enjoy zero privillages.

Wilgrea7
Like I said, it's the common Christian mentality. Maybe one of the Christians here can explain further.

They're the ones that elevate their God, and their relationship to him so much.. despite experiencing life just like every other person.

Dtruthspeaker... MaxinDhouse... Over to you"

Ken4Christ:
The blood of bulls and goats could not take away sins. It only covered sins which is called atonement. But the blood of Jesus completely removes sin which is known as remission.

The words "and it shall be forgiven him" tells you, that you it is not right to Lie Against The Law..

Christ's work for us ends in forgiveness of sins exactly as the unblemished lamb.

Ken4Christ:
My point is that if we sin, forgiveness is available. And he will cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

And Hebrews 12:16/17/ 1 Chronicles 28:9/Revelation 2:21 has told you that there is a SPACE TO REPENT BUT IT CLOSES.

No always repentance or everlasting continuous repentance. Only One Repentance as He told everyone

"Sin no more, lest a worse thing come upon you.” John 5:14

Sin no more!

For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the TRUTH, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins Hebrews 10:26

Bfly:
Adam might not be a murderer in the real sense but he became evil through the forbidden fruit, so also are his seeds; Cain and all. Murder is another kind of evil. Everyone has manifested evil one way or the other.

This is where "by their fruits ye shall know them" bites you.

A murderer shall always murder and Adam never murdered.

But look at the fruits of Cain, he murdered 1, his grandson murdered 11 and was the first person (in following his grandfather Cain, at being the first person to do something that has never been done) to claim 2 Wives in further rebellion to God's one man, one wife which everyone was obeying except him, the son of rebellion and disobedience.

His fruits, prove his father.

Bfly:
Satan could not find evil in Jesus because Jesus didn't come through the propagation of Adam.

There was no evil to find in Mr and Mrs Adam when he attacked them with temptations exactly as he did to Jesus Christ.

Bfly:
A woman does not have the capacity to bear fruit.
She is just like a pod housing the seed till maturity. As almost every pod is discarded so also is a woman discarded in form of placenta

The real fruit comes from the man.

Adam was not a murderer, then obviously Cain, the murderer was not his Seed.

So, which murderer had sex with former Mrs Adam to cause her to born Cain?

Satan is already known for
Steal - which is a type of Murder.
Kill - Murder itself.
Destroy - Murder itself.

Patokens:
Your assertion isn't purely scriptural and spiritual.you seem to be filled with some resentment towards the other gender.remember they are God's creatures and in the man was the woman at creation.she wasn't an after-thought.the Lord help us all...

Then your Bible does not have Proverbs chapter 2 to Chapter 9 or you have refused to read that part of the Bible and understand them.

lendahand:
you're not altogether correct
God honoured Deborah, Sarah, Rehab the prostitute, Magdalene the ex-prostitute (she was even the one that prepared your saviour for Burial). What about Ruth that her lineage brought forth Christ, Esther that stood her ground and brought a great deliverance to people of God? Was it not a woman that preserved Moses, a great deliverer? God spoke to Deborah directly as a prophetess. A virgin carried Jesus Christ for a whole nine months, any honour greater than that? Who was the first to see Jesus when he resurrected? Do your research well. Women are in the hall of faith in Hebrews 11. Jesus had a lot of women friends cum followers. People like Mary and Martha, even the woman at the well of Jacob had a long cordial chat with God himself.

Understand that God is a male figure and had made man to be head over a woman(weaker vessel), so a man has a deeper understanding of certain things more than women but women are still great beings if well handled. Solomon who is a randy being will only be seeing his type, do you blame him?

So bro correct your misconceptions about women when it comes to spiritual things.

You have simply identified those women who got the notice of The Lord AND NONE OF THEM MURDERED (WH.ORE) ANY MAN BY SEX (OF COURSE EXCLUDING RAHAB AND MAGDALENE.
AND IN THE CASE OF MAGDALENE, WE SEE THAT SHE STOPPED HOREING AND PROSTITUTING. WE DO NOT KNOW THE END OF RAHAB)

So, you have nothing.

Odebayo4010:
Let me help you to read the verse;
For there is no faithfulness in their mouth; their inward part is very wickedness; their throat is an open sepulchre; they flatter with their tongue.

Thank you brother!

And they have 2 or even 3 Mouths with which they are now using to swallow men up exactly as graves (sepulchre)