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Gromilla010:
If the so called pagan god of the Jews didn't create human being to die but to live forever why did he create the tree of good and evil?

Is it not His Right?

Gromilla010:
Why did the pagan god give devil the chance to deceive his own creature?
Why didn't he cage the devil he created or rather kill it for an utopia state?

If men had defeated Satan would we not be feeling glorious and powerful that we have even beaten that bastard.

Gromilla010:
Why did the pagan god had to watch for them to eat the fruit before he started the curse when he had every opportunity to stop them from eating the forbidden fruit?

When your champion disappoints you would you not curse him?

Gromilla010:
If the pagan god was all knowing why didn't the god create a creature that will obey him not excluding the devil ?

You did the same. That is what you call robots! And you do not value or bless your robots.

Gromilla010:
Why did the pagan god have to curse them when the god know that his creature know not what is good and evil?....and by so doing they were zombies at that point in time.

They knew one good, obey God and one evil , disobey God.

MaxInDHouse:
All men are suffering hardship and all women pregnancy issues. If you don't understand ask nobody will flog you!

Because of the Curse on Adam and Eve which you would have known if not that you like self deceit.

MaxInDHouse:
God's word never said Satan or Snake had sex with Eve nah Adam born Cain period!

God's Word never said all men shall suffer hardship of life and all women pregnancy issues, yet we all see it starts with Mr and Mrs Adam aka Eve.

sonmvayina:
Tighten the loose nuts

And then try again.

Go and take you insanity medicines and try again reading about the maker (god) of Matryoshka dolls

MaxInDHouse:
Genesis chapter 2 no reach verse 28 o!

I mean Genesis 1:28

Your stupidity is what i intend to expose Snake never committed adultery with Eve, let that sink into your empty skull)

And in the end you were the getting stupider and stupider.

Ken4Christ:
I am here again to shake the tables. There are some hard truths that are difficult to swallow but they are truth all the same.

We have been made to believe that the whole content of the Bible is the word of God. But this is not true for the following reasons;

1. The words the devil spoke are contained in it. Are we saying that the devil's word is God's word because it is in the Bible.

2. Even a donkey spoke and it was recorded. The donkey's word certainly isn't God's word.

3. Men also spoke their opinions on certain occasions. These words spoken by some of these men are not God's word.

Let's find examples in the Scriptures to back up my last point...

It goes without saying.

We all know which parts are God's Word and which parts belong to others. Hence the game we used to play in literature in English _Who Said this, to whom and when!

So, no problems here.

Kobojunkie:
1. I am afraid you are wrong on this one. Job was write that the one who OK'ed His affliction was God. Recall, [b]nothing can happen to the righteous[/b]except permitted by God.

You say this yet you never understand that the Righteous are always always protected until the day God intends to use them to show Satan that even if he does his best, God's elect will still beat him.

Which also means that Satan is free to afflict any person who is not under God's Cover.

sonmvayina:
So how would god send his spirit to impregnate Mary when she was already betrothed to Joseph?

Same as the god of matryoshka dolls got his dolls pregnant even though you bought them.

Judybash93:
Ohh yeah! This is where you got it all wrong. We flipping tested the types of soil. I don't know the kind of school you went to man! but you really need to get a hold of reality!
you only know of three states of matter because your education isn't complete sir!

That was when Truth ruled and concentrated on the things in nature and not today's lying world were liars and thieves are trying to raise up things which men fabricated as if they were things naturally occurring to deceive people like you.

Naturally, there are only 3! Man's fabrications (eg plasma and co) does not count.

Judybash93:
Before your god can reject me, at least prove that he/she/it exists

You have already proven it, exactly as you fit dey hunger for Rihanna or Salma Hayek to give you face but dem no send you. Dem no even know whether you exist.

MaxInDHouse:
God never related with Eve the same way He did with Adam

Genesis 2:28 calls you a liar. You do not have any valid thing to say.

MaxInDHouse:
Antidote is not a reward but remedy to cure

You just talking more rubbish. The copper serpent was cure/remedy/antidote given in reward of their repentance.

Please eh, I have had enough of your rubbish.

Judybash93:
You've only ended up giving an operational definition for atheism. If that works for you, that's fine, wallow in it.

The definition and explanation of many things are based on their operations eg chair- something for sitting, phone something used for talking to people etc.

Judybash93:
LMAO! Home economics, agric, chemistry? You can literally test whatever you read regardless of if you believe in them or not. The findings are based on experiments

You never tested types of soil to know that vegetables do not grow in sand (sandy soil) nor that the earth is comprised of solids, liquids and gases.

All these things are self proven and self evident.

So without a doubt your atheism is just a proof that God has completely rejected people like you.

MaxInDHouse:
From God's standpoint the only person who sinned in that garden is Adam because it was Adam that God gave the order and he passed it to Eve, that's why the scriptures say it's Eve that was deceived Adam sinned deliberately! 1Timothy 2:14.

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That is not God's Stand point. His Standpoint is revealed in His Judgements.

1. Eve's punishment was double. She suffers the man's own curse (hard ground and suffering) and her special one (pregnancy issues/sorrow etc)

2. A woman's purification procedure is double the man's own Leviticus 12.

MaxInDHouse:
Sorry i've forgotten that you're a churchgoer!
In Christianity shunning a woman is equal to beating her.

Obviously you have your own fabrication of Christianity for we all know beating is beating (assault and battery)

MaxInDHouse:
When Satan attacked Job God never said a word, when his wife told him to curse God and die God never said a word, do you know why?
Well it's because Job was the focus not his wife {Job 1:8} the same applies to Adam who was the first human Son of God! Luke 3:38

So the antidote would only make sense if Adam shunned Eve and reported the case to God...

And in this case, job passed and no reward (antidote) was given to the wife. So you see how you are talking complete and absolute rubbish because of your self deceit.

You have no valid thing to say.

sonmvayina:
One of God's commandments is "Thou shall not commit adultery"

Why would a sane man even conceive such a wicked idea that God spirit impregnated Mary that was already betrothed to Joseph as wife..
That is the most insane thing I have ever heard. It was that bad that a former president of America wanted to remove it...

See how you disgrace yourself?

Even with the fact that today women are getting pregnant without sex you still say this rubbish?

Judybash93:
No bruh! You are the one shifting the post sir.

It starts and ends with the Bible with people like you. It's like the old communist red book of the Mao era to you people. How can i hate something that he don't believe exists?
I have no feelings whatever towards your deity.

You are still changing post and running far away from the issue which is "you are living on the living that there is no such Mighty which is also belief like we are living on the living that there is A Mighty"

And not whether you hate or don't hate God.

Judybash93:
Btw, have you thought if what your so called god has revealed to you might be as a result of schizophrenic hallucination?

Did you your home economics, agric or chemistry book and make people fall into schizo-halluc?

You live on (belief) on those things taught you since secondary school because you saw the verification of their teachings.

The same with the Bible. And unfortunately for you people, as stated in God's Text book given to man (Bible), God can not and does not talk to people who love doing those things that are bad neither will He reveal Himself to them.

So, you are just here even proving the Truth of God's Word!

As written, people like you and your kind can never ever see nor hear from Him.

MaxInDHouse:
You're wrong Sir!
It's not through Eve that we sinned but Adam....

You are not correct!

Because Mr. Adam was almost innocent (Holy). God does not follow the guilty eg women and Cain's lineage. So out of the 2 of them it was Mr. Adam who stands a chance of being redeemed.

While Eve is unsavable which as you see, you find that women are the ones who populate prayer places and going to and fro (like their father satan) seeking deliverance.

MaxInDHouse:
Adam started beating Eve for eating of the forbidden fruit, God will only stop Adam from killing her

So you are a wife beater!

Every other man who does not beat women know that one of the most painful thing you can do to a woman is to simply cast her aside. So Adam does not need to do anything. And when God came visiting, He would have dealt with the matter.

MaxInDHouse:
and directed him to the tree of life where the antidote for the poison is.

You are that willing to deceive yourself? The same solution is was still on ground after My Adam ate the fruit and both could go and take the antidote (Anyway that is why you like JW).

You are plain ridiculous man.

MaxInDHouse:
According to God's word the most evil human ever on this planet is Adam because it's only his sin that turned billions upon billions of his descendants to sinners! Romans 5:12

Adam is guilty of creating sinners because all he needed to do was to be innocent from participating in Eve's sin.

Therefore, God would have separated and deleted Eve from him and thereafter given Adam a fresh new holy and sin-none wife who would have borne holy children (if she overcomes Satan's Attack) in continuation of God's plan for man.

But, Adam spoilt this plan with his own participation in the crime.

Secondly, this thread is not really about Adam so this is a change of post. (Are you trying to distract people from focusing on Mrs Adam aka Eve? E no go work with me)

sonmvayina:
Noooo

It is God presenting Israel to the nation as a bad son..

Do you not see your interpretation is mad (Isreal, a nation, presented to the nation)?

sonmvayina:
Ok.
In chapter 1 Isaiah gave you his area of concentration..even the second vers, you quoted is even put of context..

That clearly is God presenting His Case to the world on how He had nurtured and created a Holy Nation out of this sinful world, yet this Holy Nation had fallen into the same sinfulness He hated even to the point of rejecting Him.

So, you have still said no thing!

MaxInDHouse:
What we found in the Bible:
Now Adam had sexual relations with his wife Eve, and she became pregnant. When she gave birth to Cain, she said: “[b]I have produced a male child with the help of Jehovah.” Genesis 4:1[/b]

I did not say Adam did not have sex with his wife. Men always have sex with their wives even before and after her adultery so no issue.

And this does not solve the issue of evil tree (father) and evil seed (child), for the record clearly shows that Adam did not do any evil or wicked thing.

(The bold! You just made it worse for I see that that statement means she gave birth to girls first! Hence why women are very evil and too wicked as all men have seen and confessed plus why Cain had a sister he could marry even before he murdered Abel. Hence why the Bible did not follow the females. They were all Satan's seed. Wow! I am going to continue examining this angle. Wow! Therefore, she even confesses that her girls were not from The Lord. Damn, This is huge.)

Secondly, that is what women say when they have cheated for when things are normal and regular, eg when you have lawfully worked and bought your car, you do not make noise about it. But when you are yahoo-yahoo, they just must make noise about it.

MaxInDHouse:
God's word confirmed that Adam wasn't deceived {1Timothy 2:14} to rebel against God which means he deliberately turned against his heavenly father so he became EVIL just like Satan that's why all his descendants (not only Cain) inherited sin and death from him! Romans 5:12.

Wrong!
Go and read God's judgement. Mr. Adams only crime was simply because he listened to his wife because he made the mistake of loving sex (his wife) more than God. A sin men make again and again eg Abraham, Ahab, Solomon, Sisera, Samson (Job passed this issue and as we can see, he was honoured by God.) That is all.

MaxInDHouse:
Eve didn't OBEY Satan, the Bible said she was DECEIVED Sir! 1Timothy 2:14

How can you be so ridiculous like this?

Satan, told her to "eat the fruit" in many words and she confessed that "she ate it". So how can you reasonably say that she did not obey Satan when she did just what the bastard told her to do?

Please, don't ridicule yourself.

sonmvayina:
Why did you stop there

Simply because, Isaiah called on everyone in the world to listen. And I have listened.

So if you think that there is something that I should see there, the burden is in you to point it out.

MaxInDHouse:
Please can you quote this in the scriptures?

Thanks in advance!

First proof!

The Law of After its own kind (The Laws in Genesis)

"A good tree must bear good fruit and an evil Tree must bear evil fruit" Mathew 7:17.

So how does a man catch a woman who has cheated on him?

Answer: Through the child (fruit) born of the adultery.

Without doubt, Cain, the fruit, is evil, therefore, his father, the Tree, must be evil. (Murderer from the first) John 8:44

Therefore, who was the evil person in the garden with whom Eve could have cheated with?

Only one evil person, Satan.

Proof 2.
Natural living has shown that women never listen nor obey strangers. It always a person with whom they are 'very much close' and familiar with that they listen to.

Apart from her husband Mr Adam, who was the other person with whom she became familiar with?

Answer: Satan Again!
There wasn't any other person in the garden as the record showed.

Proof 3
God Cursed her (belle) aka pregnancy.

sonmvayina:
Maybe you might want to start from chapter 1 , verse 1 of Isaiah, so you can understand what he is saying. I don't want to join issues with you.

Isaiah 1 was very clear especially verse 2, "Give ear (listen) O earth". (Every one in the world).

So you see, you have nothing.

Judybash93:
You're going round in circles
Do you believe in Zeus?
I guess your answer would be 'NO'
With that being said, that means you do not believe in Zeus, thereby you lack a believe in that deity.
Your god that's been playing hide and seek is what we're saying we do not believe in. So, just prove the existence of your deity and stop trying to tell us what atheism is.

You are the one turning around by yourself and Changing the post.

The issue is not whether God shows Himself for He would never show Himself to people who hate Him.

1 Chronicles 28:9
“As for you Solomon, know the God of your father, and serve Him with a whole heart and a willing mind; for the Lord searches all hearts, and understands every intent of the thoughts. If you seek Him, HE WILL LET YOU FIND HIM; but if you forsake Him, He will reject you forever.

And you people already prove the Truth of this Law, so this is not in issue.

So, in the end, you have not said any valid thing.

IamPlato:
About Your Topic, guy I No Go Lie For You. Pussy sweet Die, God Created That Thing As A Trap I Swear.

Once You Start Fvcking You Just Want To Keep Going. Stopping Is Hard Like Mad

God did not create it as a trap. It is Satan who corrupted it by sleeping with Mrs Adam (she was not Even then. Go check the scripture, she became Eve only after her adultery with Satan. And see, do you not see that Eve is too close to Evil both in name and in action?)

Mrs Adam committed adultery with Satan hence their evil child Cain and why Mr Adam called her Eve which he was using style to call her Evil)

Which is why if you look closely, you would see that God did not conclude her case. He just gave her some interim orders while adjourning the case sine-die!

Only for the grandson of Cain to make it worse by killing 11 men and being the first (like his father was the first murderer of man) to take 2 wives.

IamPlato:
some Of Una, na Una Mouth Go Kill Una. See What You Are Saying

E don die already.

1nice:
You are very stupid, get out from this thread

He is Fully Eve-ill!

Judybash93:
Read what you typed slowly and try to make sense of it

Your problem is that you do not know that belief means settled living aka the the merger of the word "Begin and Live" Be, Live!

Since you have settled that you do not think or you refuse to accept that there is some Mighty whom some people call "God", then you are living on "the living" (aka belief) that there is no such Mighty.

It's as simple as that!

So take your time, assimilate and see whether you are not doing just that the exact same way as we who have accepted that indeed there is a Mighty, Whom we call God and we are living on (belief) that knowing!

dattaswami1:
Crucifixion of Jesus- Co-relating Bible and Quran View

QUESTION

[i][Q) In Bible it is said that Jesus was crucified and it was the plan of God so that Jesus suffered for His people. However in Quran it is said that they did not kill Him. Why these contradictions between Quran and Bible? Which one to believe?..

This is madness!

You are merging the book of hate Christians with the book of Christianity and you want to make sense out of the mix?

Has anyone told you, you are mad?

sonmvayina:
No..you have never..

You worship jesus, who I keep telling you was invented by the Romans..

See, why I said you are insane. We are talking about God but your insanity did not allow you to see this, so you had to change post to go to Jesus Christ.

I even saw something in Isaiah 2:1- 5 and I wondered what your insane mind will say about this for Jesus Christ, without doubt fulfilled this prophecy.

For He taught on the mountain, taught us The Way, Judged the nations and rebuked many people and His Followers (Christians) do not carry swords nor learn the skill of murdering (War).

Judybash93:
Lmfao!!! Christian atheists?? Bruh! Atheistism isn't a belief system. It's the lack of belief in the existence of deities. If you know that your own god exists, why not just prove it? Satan o, Ogun o, obatala o, amadioha o and all others haven't been proven to exist, so, there's lack of belief in them as well. So, what's your point sir?

A living system (belief) in a lack of belief or refusal to believe.

LordReed:
LoLz! Neither does your god.

Therefore, all 3 exists in exercise of their rights to privacy.