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DeepSight:
I repeat: if this is the case, all people are doomed.

I did not contest this!

DeepSight:
This is more reasonable and I think for a Christian your teaching is unbiblical. The bible teaches that God has the sole prerogative of forgiveness of sins.

Prerogative means Overiding or Affirmatory Authority.

DeepSight:
I don't think this so called blasphemy against the Holy Spirit has a clear definition.

It does not need to, although going by very very old books I have, I see that blasphemy is the joinder of 2 words which is "Blast-Infamy".

https://www.nairaland.com/6306634/truth-past

Infamy is already very wicked enough especially when such a game is not True

Infamy-
the state of being well known for some bad quality or deed.

Only for a person to come and further 'blast' it up which means broadcast it. That is a very very bad and wicked thing to do.

kazyhm:
I know you did some research before this response........ the bible recorded that God created Heaven and Earth on the first da[/b]y.......by the bolded in your statement, are you saying there was a pre-creation before the actual creation recorded in the bible......and[b] can you please be specific in you response not the guess in the last bolded statement.

"On the first day" of our world's own day. And not God's own day. Hence the word "in the beginning"

Whose beginning?

Answer: our own world's beginning!

Whose first day?

Answer: our own world's first day!

Wilgrea7:
Yeah.. just as the rest of us are also waiting for your Jesus to come back

2000 years and counting.

Not the kind of guy you'd take a punctuality lesson from

He clearly said that He was not going to come until after a certain event occurs.

And inspite of the other prophecies which have now passed, this specific event is still flowing down.

So the waiting continues.

MrBrownJay1:
live your life to the fullest today, and repent on your death bed....et voila!

Just found out yesterday that just like Saul, Esau too could not make it when he was alive and trying to repent.

For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears. Hebrews 12:17

So that death bed repentance, is already dead while the person is still even living.

Wilgrea7:
Wait till you find out the muslims are right.. or the Hindus.. or if you're catholic.. wait till you find out the protestants were right. Wait till you find out any of the other religions or sects or doctrines other than yours are right.

We are all already waiting!

Wilgrea7:
If multiple people claimed to take the same bus to the same location..

There is no multiple people! Only one person who said he had taken one chisco bus to find Asaba and found it then you came by yourself, with your own mouth to command the same him (one person and not multiple people ) that he should have entered/taken all the buses in Chisco to go to Asaba.

That is your goof!

And that's all I pointed out!

dinkyicon:
you don't understand the question i think

I do understand it.

I am just saying in other words that all it takes for an offence (sin) to be unforgiviable is for The Holy Spirit to Say, "I won't forgive you of that sin/offence"

Janosky:
. Oga, Johanine Comma in king James Bible is a monumental FRAUD.

Let me show you another example.. John 10:33.
John wrote the Jews said to Jesus:
"You are a man making yourself a god", the same word @ 1 Corinthians 8:5, Acts 28:6,Acts 12:22.

But your 3 deities worshippers CHANGED that to capitalize letter G.

E dun tay tay your Trinity mentors dey do FRAUD inside holy Bible.

God go settle all dis things wen He Come and d most important thing for us be say make we no dey guilty of doing any thing wey God don talk say He no like.

DeepSight:
What if -
1. They don't forgive you even when you are genuinely contrite.
2. They are unavailable - for example, dead.

Are you then permanently screwed?

1) Hmm! Is all I can say. For it is their exclusive right to either grant you mercy and forgiveness or withhold it from you.

2) Here you are talking about the death of a human being. Forgiveness here is obtainable for a human being has an Oga (God), who he must obey and God too can cancel/overide his failure/inability to forgive.

But this is absent in the case of The Holy Spirit, so wahala dey for person wey go fall inside this hole!

Reallife17:
You shouldn’t insult anybody. Everyone must not think like you. Na so Jesus do wen him take win thousand souls? Not a Christian though

I didn't insult any one. I just pointed out the fact that it always shows that they do not think well.

Secondly, Jesus did rebuke those who did the wrong calling them snakes and vipers as they truly are.

I have seen that there is nothing anyone can say or do to a person who does not want to follow God, to make them follow God, so I think it is a complete waste of time.

And if you pay attention to the Bible, you would see that it is written only to those who are genuinely seeking God, hence "to the church that is in" or This is the Word of The Lord which came to ...".

All others are cut off, so it is not for them.

My humble submission!

Janosky:
[b]Your 3 deities worshippers added "in heaven & this 3 are one".
The FRAUD of...

God will settle all these things when He Comes so, no case here.

Secondly, John was Jewish and not Greek so your bible hub presentation would not be correct, just saying!

DeepSight:
If this is true, we are all in hot soup.
It simply cant be absolutely true.

You know it is True! Your mother and father and teachers showed you.

And the society even shows it is True by always telling us to "go and apologize to that person" or "go and beg that person to forgive you".

budaatum:
I don't think I can accept any answers about anything from a person who thinks square roots are pointless, and Simple Interest and Compound Interest is A Perversion and A Cover up of God's Established Law.

Good luck if you can.

As I told you then, I have been asking all who practically work with calculations eg mathematicians, accountants, engineers and any one who is in the science world whether they have practically used square root in their real life problem solving activities, with of course, they were going to practically show it to me. But till today, not one has.

On simple/compound interest, Natural Law has already shown us that it is wrong to give far above what you receive. (An eye for an eye! And not an eye for eyes!)

Without duress and pressure no one will ever willfully agree to borrow N10,000 to pay back N30,000 which almost doubles every week. What rubbish!

No one reasonable person finds it just and fair as is proven even in today's loan app borrowing shits.

On top of the fact that in Natural Law which was the first Law we all know, It prescribes a giving even without interest.

But Thieves like you (obviously you must be in the lending business) called bankers/money lenders are the ones who always seek to earn far above and beyond their means even by dishonest means, who have ensured that people are forced to accept their stealing by the business of loans and to accept that their manipulation of stealing is right because of their creation of their way of taking more than their reasonable due, through simple/compound interest.

In violation of The Law,
"The tenets of The Law are To Live Honestly, To Harm No One and To Give to each their Due!"

I know why it is taught to children is to ensure that they would think that this their unnatural act of stealing is known, such that they would think that it was natural in the first place and therefore, they must agree with it. Hence, they would not see anything wrong with it when they grow up and steal from them.

Of course it is known that no adult without duress, will ever agree to such a contract of simple/compound interest.

paxonel:
The truth is, heaven and faith falls into one category which is eternal life
godliness or works of the law, or being honest or any of the fruits of the spirit mentioned in Galatians 6, all falls into a different category different from faith or heaven.

Romans 3:28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

Mark the word WITHOUT.
which means, faith has nothing to do with the laws of this world just like Jesus says my kingdom(which requires faith to attend) is not of this world

So when i hear people say you will not make heaven because you sin, who gave them the right to judge people like that, have they been to heaven before?,are they too not sinners?

Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

I told you then that Paul was a Lawyer and all of his letters are exactly as a lawyer's document requiring a lawyer to decode it for you.

Therefore, you missed the import of the same Romans 13:8 and 10 , I cited which clearly sums up this Law and Right Conduct aka righteousness debate stating

8 "Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another HATH FULFILLED THE LAW.

10 Love worketh no I'll to his neighbour: therefore, LOVE IS THE FULFILLING OF THE LAW"

kazyhm:
Lol

I asked a friend; what the God's first creation by the bible's account, he said God created Heaven and Earth on the first day....

I then asked where was God before his first creation ?.......He just started speaking in tongues.

Don't be unfair, it is not the law that he must know everything.

So, I would have answered you that first of all, heaven and earth was not the first of God's Creation and unless God tells us, we can not know.

Secondly, God was in His own House or one of His Houses.

It could very well be that this world and what we call the universe is just one of God's Many Rooms in His House.

donbenie:
So according to your illogical analogy..
If he decides to go to Asaba with Ifesinachi,God is Good or Ekenedilichukwu..
Will he not get to Asaba?
OR is your CHISCO,the ONLY way to see whether Asaba exists?
You see the NONSENSE in your SENSE?

Fallacy of Switching the burden of proof!

It was your antii-God brother who commanded that if he is to travel with a certain bus, he must travel with all the buses in their fleet!

So go talk to him and not to me.

Wilgrea7:
Dtruthspeaker seems to know a lot about this God, considering he easily and repeatedly gets offended on the God's behalf..

Maybe he can provide some answers

I can but I have decided that from now on, I almost would not give you the answers and you can carry on ahead with the life and powers you already have.

I only add that you should remember that as you have powers to do whatever you like, so do any other who has power to do what they please.

Secondly, I am offended because your questions are never bonafide and based on already conceived judgements you have already passed against God.

In other words, where all over the world it is the good and just practice that people are judged based on the presumption that they were innocent unless proven guilty, in your case, it is the other way round.

You judge God guilty, and then you ask that He is proven innocent, even by your own standards and not by the standards of fairness and equity.

naijaclass:
In Christian hamartiology, eternal sins, unforgivable sins, unpardonable sins, or ultimate sins are sins which will not be forgiven by God. One eternal or unforgivable sin (blasphemy against the Holy Spirit), also known as the sin unto death,..

Forgiveness lies at the full will and discretion of the offended!

Which is why the Bible counsels that you should not offend anyone, else, you would be in trouble and perish thy own life.

As righteous tendeth to life: so he that pursueth evil PURSUETH IT TO HIS OWN DEATH (SELF-CIDE IN LATIN "SUI-CIDE" )

gameova:
Imagine Nigeria without Christianity Or Knowledge Of Anybody Called Jesus still practicing Our traditional Religion without any Colonial Interference. Will we all (now Christians) have gone to hell when we died?

Nope!

Some of us would have obtained the grace of God.

Why?

Because Nature is God.

Therefore, those who kept in line with Nature would find that they do not do any wicked and evil thing which destroys us.

For as our local names for God show, we were God Oriented, which means we were God guided.

And when you look at all the things God Hates, you would see that they were also abominations in past.

Therefore, except for 3 shits I can immediately count like trust in witchcraft, pride and multiple wives, many were not in the big troubles people have today which was brought in by the deceit of man's rule through man's law called Legal and Democracy, instead of God through His Law called Natural Law, which used to rule us then before those Satan's came.

Omooba77:
What is God?

The Name which we call the Person wey build dis House (earth) give us.

Mufakirnaqdiun:
. Let’s take it even a step further—if god is all-knowing, he foresaw these dirtbags eons ago. So, my question is, why did he even allow these individuals to be born?

My word will not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that whereto I sent it.

And The Lord God Said
"Let the earth bring forth.... After its kind!"

And it is done.

So if you allow your evil neighbour's spawn to piss in your drinking water, it's your own foolish fault after all you knew your neighbour was evil, yet you went playing with him.

Dear, they want to outdo the folks of Noah's time!

Nelidee:
Mad and frustrated.

paxonel:
...
Meaning, mere having
L faith is the godliness, no other godliness approved by God who is a spirit

We have battled this before.

The same Romans says having these things
"Let us walk honestly, (ROM 13:13), Render therefore to all their due" (13:7); be not conformed to this world: ...renew your mind." (12:2) and many other counsels of God Fullness are also approved.

Wilgrea7:
If you want to go by NDEs as to whether heaven exists... Don't go by one of them... Go by ALL of them...

If he wants to go by Chisco, as to whether Asaba exists, ... Don't go by one of them chisco buses, ... Go by ALL of them...

Gosh! Atheists/Satanists are Mad!

Hamaschi0000:
The book of Proverbs says it all

Psalms 14:1 (KJV) The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

And it is always the corrupt, and abominable and the evil and a fool who says or thinks these things!

Vladcmr:
Heaven and hell is real nobody can deny it Gods word is true and pure.

As long they have power to speak, there is always one evil who will deny a Truth.

paxonel:
I'm not encouring ungodly acts though, but doing ungodly things will not make you miss heaven either.

Let's take responsibility for our actions

In spite of

Psalm 1:7
For the LORD knoweth the way of the righteous: but the way of the ungodly shall perish.

2 Chronicles 19:2
king Jehoshaphat, Shouldest thou help the ungodly, and love them that hate the LORD? therefore [is] wrath upon thee from before the LORD.

The word "shrewd" is a downplay. The accurate word is unkind and bad trader.

NemoDatQuod:
Millions of people throughout the earth stated that Covid -19 did not exist.

Did that make it true? In fact, a large number of those same deniers were themselves killed by the very disease whose existence they denied, because they were lax about it, given their erroneous belief. "See, even these guys confirm it". Did their belief/confirmation make it true that Covid-19 was not in existence and ravaging and killing million, just two years ago?

Change of post!

The issue is not about Covid whose Truth was established. (And there will be someone who says that there was no covid in the first place).

So nothing here.

NemoDatQuod:
My suggestion to you is to remove that handle of "DtruthSpeaker". You do not have what it takes to seek the truth,...

Now you attacked the man rather than the issue (Ad hominem).. Clear proof of nothing to say!

NemoDatQuod:
Your "truth" is currently based on what someone or others say. You do not even know who you are referring to in saying " See, even this guy confirm it". You don't know the person's agenda

Another Change of Post!

We are not about "my Truth" but talking about the Truth of Jws twisting and bending and removal of the Words in the Bible.

Then secondly, I know you know that one of the ways Truth is ascertained and received is by the testimony of the those who saw the fact in issue and by corroboration.

So, I know you, whose monika is one of the twin principles of fair hearing and yet are you far from being fair.

NemoDatQuod:
...They teach ONLY what is in the scriptures, no matter how difficult it is. They simply teach what the bible says without adding or removing...

You lie here!

We all have seen how words used can be bent into a lie without even touching the words.

Not to talk of their removal of the words "and these 3 are one" in their Bible.

So you see, you lie.

See, even this guy confirms it

Courz:
I It is a dangerous Cult that destroys dreams and families. It is solely responsible for a lot of needless deaths due to incorrect, twisted Bible interpretations. Nothing more nothing less.

NemoDatQuod:
...They teach ONLY what is in the scriptures, no matter how difficult it is. They simply teach what the bible says without adding or removing...

You lie here!

We all have seen how words used can be bent into a lie without even touching the words.

Not to talk of their removal of the words "and these 3 are one" in their Bible.

So you see, you lie.