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LordReed:
Sure hyperbolic and idiomatic statements are allowed but then you have sacrificed accuracy which is my point.

The accuracy is determined by the point the Maker of the Statement intended to make which was made here and we all got.

So no issue.

Offpoint1:
I am leaving you, it's obvious you don't have an answer to my questions and you've begin to resort into insults.

Good day

I have answered you but it is obvious that you have put away the natural use of what we call figures is speech (simile and imagery) just so that you can concentrate only on the literal translation.

So it is you who is being unreasonable here.

Offpoint1:
Lol
You want to deny your own words?

Everyone knows that saying "exactly like" is used for explaining and showing a phenomenon and it is crazy or it shows how greatly evil you are if you did not get it.

Offpoint1:
This reply have absolutely no relationship with my question.

You claimed the ” falling stars ” recorded in the Bible are earthly stars (famous people)

I gave verses that doesn't suggest those stars are earthly stars, but clearly heavenly bodies.

I want you to explain to me how those stars in those Bible verses are earthly stars...And if they're heavenly bodies, explain to me the possibilities of such given the smallest of stars are x bigger than the earth.

I said "star" means "light or shinning"! I said nothing about famous people.

Your soul is and was made a star until you "put out its light" by sinning.

Your soul lives in heaven and controls earth.

I said heaven and earth are twins and therefore what happens in one of them must happen in the other.

And since they were created together they must be destroyed together.

The Bible was not referring to those things that we call "diamonds in the sky" or the bally things some people claim to see with their binoculars.

LalastiklaIa:
Yes let's say everyone in the world wants to see how the prophecy of what is in the Bible will come to pass and everyone. As in we want to hasten Jesus' coming let everyone stop having sex to procreate new babies let's see whether Jesus will be forced to come because they are really delaying us here.

They already see that the prophecies are fulfilled so, no hurry (though, I actually want God to Come Now, now, now. I hate this world)

However, the bastard has not yet been revealed so, the battle continues.

And secondly, you know disobedience is the way of man so as you have ordered cessation of sex and baby making, so it is now that more babies would be born even more than before

LalastiklaIa:
. Yes I said hell fire because the probability of the children you'll produce making heaven is so low.

o boy! What a sharp Truth.

Well, all that I can do is to lay The Truth of Life and Death before them and to show them which way is Life. After that, they are on their own to choose whichever way they like after all, it would be their own life and living or their own death and lamenting.

famozine1:
Though I don't know how things happen in other countries bcoz am born nd raised in 9ja
Why are people not blessed as claim by 80% Nigerian men of God check previous years calendar and prophecies given every year what u see and hear is this year is the year of restoration,great blessing,victory,divine helper ..

The blessings of sinners is evil.

Proverbs 13:21: Evil pursueth sinners: but to the righteous good shall be repayed.

John 9:31; “We know that God does not listen to sinners".

Psalm 118:15
"Shouts of joy and victory resound in the tents of the righteous: “The LORD's right hand has done mighty things!"

LordReed:
..Jesus said the mustard seed grows into a tree however there is no mustard specie that grows into a tree. Sure they can grow quite large,as much as 12feet in some cases but it still doesn't qualify it as a tree.

At the least you have confessed that a very very tiny thing grows to become "quite a large" thing, which by every reasonable analysis, is considered a very impressive outcome, which is the point Jesus was making!

So, no issue here!

Offpoint1:
Mat 24:29
Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.

Rev 6:13
And the stars of heaven fell to the earth, as a fig tree drops its late figs when it is shaken by a mighty wind.

Mat 13:25
And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken.

None of these verses are referring to any earthly stars, they're All talking about heavenly bodies

Explain to me

Yes!

Heaven and earth are Brothers maybe twins like Esau and Jacob. Heaven is first and Senior Genesis 1:1

Heaven means spirit world where your soul (the star) lives. Hence "let your light so shine".

And earth means this physical world and it's skin which you know too much and even fatally more than your heaven living self.

And the correct order is that heaven leads earth hence the prayer of 'As it is heaven"!

But Satan has deceived men such that it is the earth man (flesh) that is controlling the heavenly man.

And the earth man has therefore corrupted and dirtied the heavenly man star, hence "Proverbs 8:36: But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul: all they that hate me love death".

So if earth is very very dirty it means that heaven is like Aba dump site.

And you know God does not tolerate dirt.

And even among we sinners, what do we do with lands and gardens that have turned to dustbins?

WE BURN THEM ALL!

HappyPagan:
What if Jesus died for His sins? A Carpenter's son should know better than claim to be God...

First this stupid question is D.O.A as by your speaking this rubbish, you prove that Truth of the Bible and it's prophecies which had foresaid that evils like you would come before this world ends!

So thanks for coming to show and prove that the Bible had indeed spoken The Truth.

Gopkk:
Prayer Over and Over .
Fasted over and Over .

By Grace and Strength Available ,Tried as much as I could to keep steadfast .

Situation is getting Worst ...

Not one jot of The Law shall pass away.

"Thou shalt not kill (even thy own self) is The Law!

You should have drawn near and Held on to The Lord when He was near, before this days came upon man.

Wilgrea7:
I hope this time we can at least have a logical discussion that won't devolve into insults

As long as you stay within normal grown up reasonable limits and you do not blaspheme The Lord, then you have no problems with me.

Wilgrea7:
You're talking about a story which cannot be verified at the moment. How different is it from the stories where Zeus fought with hades, or where Krishna lifted a mountain.

This thread already has the position that the contents of the Bible are True, hence the question of the thread. Therefore, I can use the Bible to answer.

Wilgrea7:
...So at the end of the day, we're left with more questions than answers, and not much reasonable evidence, as to what happens after death, or where people “go"

As I told you, I always stick to the main points of the thread, so I read all your presentations and I understand your concerns and so I hereby address them on the whole, and I do not intend departing from the main issue of the thread which is "after death".

First, following your interests in ghosts and stuff, I say it is a waste of time and unprofitable for the most important thing about being a human being is 'How we live using our talent called "Life"!

Which when the Giver of our Life calls for the records and fruits of our use of it, leads to the question "hope He would be pleased with the reports He finds there?"

And on that Day of Opened Records, O.Y.O is the case and all things which happened or did not happen before that day, is material only to the person it happened or 'not happened' to.

So, the next place and destination after living in this world depends on how you impress The Consular in charge of your passage to the next destination.

kareemkamil:
Are u saying Jesus is coming to wicked mankind

Yes!

Did He not warn mankind that if you gave Him Kindness, He shall give you kindness in return? (An eye, for an eye)

Or if you gave him wickednes, He shall give wickedness in return?

Mathew 25:33-43
31 “When the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the [c]holy angels with Him, then He will sit on the throne of His glory....
34 Then the King will say to those on His right hand, ‘Come, you blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: 35 for I was hungry and you gave Me food; I was thirsty and you gave Me drink; I was a stranger and you took Me in; 36 I was naked and you clothed Me; I was sick and you visited Me; I was in prison and you came to Me.’

37 “Then the righteous will answer Him,...

41 “Then He will also say to those on the left hand, ‘Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels: 42 for I was hungry and you gave Me no food; I was thirsty and you gave Me no drink; 43 I was a stranger and you did not take Me in, naked and you did not clothe Me, sick and in prison and you did not visit Me.’

Offpoint1:
The stars will fall
Revelation also mentioned falling of stars to the earth

Explain what those stars are, because I don't want to believe it's the literal stars cuz that will be the greatest jokes. Even the smallest star EBLM J0555-57Ab is X bigger than the earth.

And Isaiah and Mathew.

"Stars"- it is exactly like those we call movie stars, football stars, music stars etc.

Therefore, it means even the powers and rulers and the hottest and the best movers and shakers of heaven will be forcefully evicted from there to be brought down to earth for Judgement on that terrible day.

RoyalDiadems:
Please this isn't Christlike.

I reverse it in Jesus name. May the Lord forgive you.

Colossians 4:6

"Let your speech always be gracious, seasoned with salt, so that you may know how you ought to answer each person."

"A dog barks when his master is attacked. I would be a coward if I saw that God's truth is attacked and yet would remain silent." John Calvin

Thank you brother, I understand what you have in mind but look again, the introductory words of Letter to Colossians explains who the Bible is for, which is only for those who are in Christ and those love The Lord.

"2 To the saints and faithful brethren in Christ"

All evils and anti-God and and anti-Christ are excluded.

Therefore Titus and Psalms and every scripture against the enemies of God can and should be used against those who do not conduct themselves reasonably and properly, speaking Lies and evil against The Lord.

Titus 1:9-14
King James Version
9 Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers.

10 For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision:

11 Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre's sake.

Psalm 5 (10/11)
10 Destroy thou them, O God; let them fall by their own counsels; cast them out in the multitude of their transgressions; for they have rebelled against thee.

11 But let all those that put their trust in thee rejoice: let them ever shout for joy, because thou defendest them: let them also that love thy name be joyful in thee.

Wittydreh:
We Christians claim to be righteous whereas we are not.....
How can a prophet claim to be a true prophet and he help yahoo guys to prepare soap, some people claim to believe in God and they are still doing fraudulent activities?
Does God permit fraud.
If so let's legalise fraud

Are you people Christ Like?

No.

So, say church goers and church organisers not Christians.

Ladymissile:
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BUT IN YOUR OWN CASE THE BIBLE IS EATING UP YOUR BRAIN AND IF CARE IS NOT TAKEN YOUR MADNESS WILL ENTER MARKET

Iz that you Satan?

Ehen, you have finally shown yourself! Lake of Fire no far again!

Ladymissile:
you have a MANGLED decayed rotten brain
I wonder how your whole body will look like

Infact your blatant Stupidity and madness is 1000000×100 raised to the power of buhari

Your head is empty doing whoooo-whooo when breaze blows.

And your body ah, like ice-cream shit!

And you are the definition of madness that Oxford would soon use you to update itself!

Ladymissile:
so we have devil's bible
I still reiterate that your madness is raised to the power of BUHARI

Even in a world of fake everything you say this ah, you are madness itself!

jaephoenix:
Actually those stories about Monroe, Lennon have all been found to be lies, which is a regular theme amongst Christian stories
https://www.rojakpot.com/untimely-deaths-people-mocked-god/amp/
You guys use fibs and scaremongering to get your followers

Actually, these people have been declared a fraud, unreliable and untrustworthy.

https://review.easycounter.com/

Ladymissile:
you are funny
Your emptyheaded skull won't let you know that they is a difference between "slave" and "servant"..

You are the one who is funny. I just said your devil Bible said slaves whilst in God's Bible it said "servants"!

So you have said nothing!

Ladymissile:
you have allowed religion to bury your brain six feet in the ground
You better become woke or be enslaved to fallible religious book invented by humans

Even the christian denomination have contradicting doctrine from anglican to catholic to pentecostal to mountain on fire etc
I can go on and on

Am so happy that some universalist and humanist in christianity are seeing the light and not bogged down into old jewish laws that are undergoing reforms and reconstruction

is it not funny that you would not leave me alone in my place?

When people ask you for a small good thing, you guys do not give them but when it comes to bad and evil things, all of you start making noise and advertising it.

Wide is the way that leadeth to destruction and the multitude go by that way.

This is the rapture and all you devil's and weeds are simply banding together EXACTLY AS PROPHECIED!

Mufakirnaqdiun:
I'm not talking about living forever,I'm talking about God knowing their pitiable situation and doing nothing about it.
Is that too hard to understand?

See how you are turning round and round. You said temporary living, I answered, then you changed to permanent living, and I have answered again. Now you have turned back to temporary living again, you don't have any thing to say here.

silibaba:
You are not getting it bro.

The children of Aaron were not priest ...

Eh! don't tell me that your Bible does not have Exodus and Leviticus for this just proves that you guys are not from God.

silibaba:
The Holy communion is Paramount in every believers life...

And is that white/cream thing which melts in your mouth "Holy"?

Was it consecrated in accordance with God's Laws?

Can melting in the mouth be considered eating?

You guys and your rituals are completely at variance with God's Laws!

Mufakirnaqdiun:
I'm talking about stopping it permanently,o you are pointless.

That is not True for you already know that this is a very unreasonable thing to say because it means therefore, they should live forever.

And if so, then death guarantees it and is a permanent stoppage. For forever living is to take place after death.

Therefore, God has already taken care of your permanent living!

You really don't have any thing to say!

silibaba:
Whether they fornicate or smoke is their personal life. The singular reason reason they are called into the priesthood is to offer the sacrifice of the body and blood. And that is what God is after. On the last day they will cry, Lord we healed in your name, we cast out demon but God will say , I know you not.

See it! You prove that they are not from God for God was very very clear as to the requirements of His Priests and there duties AND THEIR PERSONAL LIVES!

Aaron's children died when they made this error!

Ladymissile:
There are a great many religions that accept homosexuality, including many branches of ...

In confirmation of the Truth of that which was prophecied in the Bible, so no big deal.

Let all the evils and the children of evils band together and comfort each other before they are destroyed.

Ladymissile:
And the same God's word accept and supports slavery

I believe you won't say God forbid when the whites retains or create another slave trade and bet me africans like you will be their target for enslavement

That's why we have the judaism reforms and this religion is targeted at making amendment for the old testament laws that are found harmful

I know that you are today's devil so you would love your devil's Bible which says slaves whereas God said "servants".

silibaba:
What am trying to pass across is that, the communion you receive doing

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your communion service does not hold water.

Only the priest is ordained to carry out such sacrifice. But is so sad that now pastors now indulge in it.
Go and read why samuel said OBIDIENCE IS BETTER THAN SACRIFICE

1samuel 17:34

Read it carefully.

Are your priests sons of Aaron?

Were women allowed near the alter?

Is that place Holy?

Is your priest holy and consecrated in accordance to God's Laws? We dey see una priest and how dem dey carry wores, drink anyhow and not to talk of them teaching exactly what the Pharisees and scribes taught.

Boy, that place is the house of Satan and every evil work is there as even proven by the statements which una leader called pope says.

Wilgrea7:
No one knows where they'll go, because no one knows what happens after death.

Every religion and culture had their own concept of what happens after you die. None of which have been proven.

So to put it simply, people who died before Jesus came, have as much chance of entering into heaven, as they do of entering into Valhalla.. or wonderland

We know! Samuel, Jarius daughter, Lazarus all were woken up from "Sleeping."

All who are dead, sleep except special cases like those in the world in Noah's days.

Which is why till the end of the world, there would always be talk of ghosts and appearances of people who died like the one recently reported here in nairaland.