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Judas1X:
Now let's look at your analogy using logical syllogism
P1: Humans are like a phone.
P2: A phone must have a creator.
C: Human beings, being like a phone, must have a maker creator.

Your false analogy can be shown by a
reduction to the absurd, highlighting the many differences between the Universe and a phone. Similar absurdities can be built from almost every other characteristic of human beings or phones:

P1: Human beings are like a phone.
P2: A human being can excrete waste from his body in the form of sweat, excreta, urine etc.
C: The phone, being like a human being, can excrete waste from his body in the form of sweat, excreta, urine etc.

There are problems "disguised" in the assumptions of your trite analogy. A phone bears little resemblance to a human being, just like you bear little resemblance to an all-knowing, all-powerful deity, therefore your piece of shit analogy is already invalidated in step 1.

iamyungkhalifa:
Why do christains argue with atheists . Most especially here on NL...

Wilgrea7:
Yeah.. this is sure to piss some people off....

Wilgrea7:
1. Nobody.. no authority, no force, no individual, no prophet, no deity, no god, is beyond questioning.

LalastiklaIa:
So

I don't know what this dream means. I have been going through a lot lately and I have been thinking maybe God does not exist or he exists but[b] he doesn't want to interfere in the happenings that occur here[/b].

Judas1X:
You really have nothing more to offer. I actually thought you'd step up after I pointed it out the first time but you came back with same old bogus equivocations that have come to characterize your posts

Are you Omniscient?
Are you Omnipresent?
Are you Omnipotent?

Omniscient. Surely, you know your phone greatly better than your phone as you have already confessed. hahaha

Omnipresent The phone may be able to see everything on the table but you are present both around and beyond your table and you see everything around the phone at the same time hahaha

Omnipotent. You already know that can improve or destroy your phone in any way and manner you desire and there is nothing your phone can do about that.

Judas1X:
Says the defected ape who doesn't realize he's using false equivalence fallacies to make his points. Your analogies are flawed because they don't truly represent the subject of your position. I don't expect you to understand though. We are all well acquainted with your acute cognitive limitations

Judas1X:
SMDHLMFAO! Look at your replies and look at the posts you're quoting. You have not addressed anything. I brought you down to hurling shit insults all over the thread . [/b]

Judas1X:


DMumuSpeaker, stop making false and bogus equivocations. [b]Water is not synonymous with an omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient deity that cannot be proven to exist in reality. We know water exists. Where is your proof for god? Hmm? Another question you pitifully don't have an answer for. You can't even support your own weight by yourself. Weak-kneed idiot [/b]

Judas1X:
Emphasis on IF. Unfortunately for you and your fellow god freaks, your god cannot be found to exist anywhere,so your fevered imaginations have no basis in our present reality

Judas1X:
If you followed my argument like any normal thinking creature, you'll see I didn't base it on any actual ad populum argument.

You obviously just crawled out from your shit tank! Everyone here knows the atheist signage song.

Judas1X:
Religious conflict
Religious intolerance
Religious oppression

[b]These are the things preventing world peace

chryssanthe:
How do you know what your good claims to be?
You don't, correct? Some other people told you. Some people wrote books.
"Christianity" tells you.
But actually you don't KNOW shit. You don't know what your god says or wants. You don't even know he exist
What your do is to BELIEVE what others tell you, without much scrutiny.
You are gullible

Judas1X:
More gibberish from a religious lunatic. Where's the strikethrough feature when you need one? Abeg come carry this post to it's right designation. Dejected lunatic

efficiencie:
If there is no God then what is the basis of morality? How do you define something good or evil? What makes stealing wrong in every culture? Can you answer that objectively without recourse to God or anything supernatural? If there is no God then what is the origin of order and regularity? If there is no God then all life must be random. Order cannot just bring itself into existence. Order requires intelligence. Just as you can never attribute a book to random events. So what is the origin of order? What is the origin of order in the cosmos and in physical reality? If there is no God where did all of existence come from? Where did matter, space and time originate from? If you say they came from nothing then please define "nothing"?

The last question could easily take you forever to answer in a logically coherent manner. Only a fool assumes there is no God. The real question is "who is God and how can He or She or It be reached?"

sonmvayina:
But none of your post makes sense...

Don't you think them through before posting?

At least try and make sense of it,before trying to post it..

sonmvayina:
My point is that, people are noticing .

Don't you think it's high time you have a rethink..

Judas1X:
LMAO, C'mon DMumuSpeaker. This is 2022. Who still legitimately thinks that the argument from design is a tenable argument for gods, huh? [b]Get with the times, fool[/b]

Judas1X:
Your meaningless assertion here doesn't explain anything
You said everything is created, therefore, the Earth was created also abi? Oya please show us how the Earth was created. Yes nah, what are the processes, the nitty gritty science involved, hmm?

Judas1X:
When you finish answering that, can you then tell us who designed the designer, hmm?

Judas1X:
If you already know this genius, then why bring up the nonsensical claim that without gods and religion, there will be anarchy and mayhem, hmm?

terrezo2002:
God loves you. It is His will to give you all things. Continue to trust in Him and never envy others, especially the prosperity of sinners.
Luke 12:15 And he said unto them, Take heed, and beware of covetousness: for a man's life consisteth not in the abundance of the things which he possesseth.

sonmvayina:
Dtruthspeaker,.hope you are following?

Wilgrea7:
Oh great truthspeaker... Forgive me for i have wronged thee by quoting thee out of context.

So if i may ask... What makes me evil?

Judas1X:
As usual, you are assuming a Creator here. If you can't provide evidence of this creator, your assertion here is meaningless.

Judas1X:
DMumuSpeaker, Its comments like this that reveal your severe cognitive impairment. Contrary to your myopic and uninformed claim, history has proven that it those who are fixated gods and religions that insist on hatred, prejudice and violent conflict.

Have you ever heard of Atheist Crusade or Atheist Jihad?

Religious conflict
Religious intolerance
Religious oppression

These are the things preventing world peace

Wilgrea7:
I'm evil because I don't believe in the existence of a God? Lol

meobizy:
Surely Jesus talked about it. Didn’t he?

Wilgrea7:
I don't believe in the divinity.. or return of any Jesus character Terminator style.. but one question I've been meaning to ask Christians.. is why they keep having children.

Tamaratonye1:
At your discretion -

You awaken tomorrow to find headlines around the world: Science has definitively proven that no god exists - anywhere in the universe. All the religious leaders concur.

How would your life be different?

Would you lose your job? Would your friends abandon you, or would you abandon friends? In what ways would how you spend your time change? Would your expectations for your future change - for the next day, next week, next month, next year, next decade? Would you suddenly lose talents?

Etc.

Brushing the question aside by claiming such a proof is impossible only ducks the question. Millions of atheists around the world enjoy fulfilling lives without needing a god in it, while many millions cannot envision a life without a god in it. What is it that a god adds that cannot be lived without?

Wilgrea7:
The topic of the thread starts with “if heaven and hell is real".. so i believe a discussion about the existence of said heaven and hell is not that far off

Wilgrea7:
I don't think this is the argument per se. You're trying to argue for the existence of a God here.. but since this thread isn't about the existence of God.. I'll have to refrain from debating such.

Wilgrea7:
I do notice this existence of God thing has been a common point of disagreement between both of us. Would you like me to open a thread where we can discuss it thoroughly?

AllenforGOD:
Puf puf puf,in whereas jesus stated in john"you hven't ask anything in my name,ask anything in my name and i will answer you"you of little faith just as was stated in john also"ask and you shall receive".just as stated also in the bible"do not set ur mind on thing that are of the world but rather the thing in heaven shall u set ur mind".
well if u need all u desire do this as stated in luke 18:22-23"but you lack one thing sell ur properties and distribute to the poor and you shall have a reward"do u do this?.
You see kobojunkie is right about wht he stated<full stop>

famozine1:
If I can understand u v well u meant we re not being bless bcoz we are sinners.

famozine1:
so according to d scriptures d likes of Peter, Paul, James, John ND other followers of Christ are sinners bcoz dey aren't rich. in the book of act when peter ND his Co was beg for money he told dem silver ND gold dey don't have even dere was a place in the scripture dat make us to know dat early morning of the Sabbath day d disciples of Jesus are hungry picking some fruit dat fell on d ground am sure if dey are rich dey would have ate ND be satisfy before going out according to my own understanding dis prosperity preaching is not align with Wat was taught by Christ

LordReed:
Your mental gymnastics are noted. LoLz.

sonmvayina:
Bad now...or better now.

With the universal declaration of Human rights.

You must be high on cheap weed.

Wilgrea7:
...The OP asked a question relating to people from other religions based on the Christian worldview.

Which means that the question can be answered by the Bible and Christian views.

[quote author=Wilgrea7 post=116679392]Ok. Considering this thread makes reference to what happens after death, I think my response also follows.

The claim that a certain God judges people in a certain way, or that a certain next destination exists, is one I'd like to see proven.

sonmvayina:
What have you said?

Human society has always been chaotic...