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Wilgrea7:
Why must it be singular? Why can't multiple people create something?

I have explained it already. A tenant having 2 landlords is a tormentous living! Peace resides in having One Ruler!

Wilgrea7:
This doesn't really add up. Your post seems to presuppose that if several of this "God" exists, they necessarily need or even want to fight each other.

There is no "presuppose" in what is Seen.

We have seen that no 2 Captains can rule a ship. No 2 kings can rule a land. No 2 C.E Os in one Company

So, you fall here.

Wilgrea7:
We can clearly see countries that are close allies[/b ]with one another.

2 kings, 2 Lands whereas you were supposed to show 2 Kings on 1 Land, so you fall here.

[b]So you see, by your example, you can not show 2 kings successfully ruling 1 Land!

So, you fall!

Wilgrea7:
You've provided no reason as to why the existence of multiple entities necessarily needs to result in a conflict.

You have seen I have provided it and you forget that this is not the issue. So provide a valid rebuttal if you have any and not call on me to give further proof.

Wilgrea7:
Let me take it up a notch. What makes you feel that the so called conflict between the multiple deities isn't something that's going to happen in the future. ..

Just repeating the same question already answered.

immaculatesense:
I don't really like creating thread...I rather I comment...maybe u can mention me on a thread...maybe

Ok

Mikee19:
No sir, you are adding to that scripture. First off no Christian goes "awhoring".

You are Avoiding the question

If any of them had gone to cool off with one babe while waiting in Jerusalem, will they receive The Holy Spirit?

Mikee19:
...You do not place emphasis on feelings at all!

At least you admit the use of feelings even if it is not to be solely relied upon to which I said nothing to that effect.

Mikee19:
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One more time, we walk by faith not by feelings or sight!

Respectfully, you guys have not yet figured out what faith truly is, and therefore you suffer through the hardship of maintaining what you all think that faith is. until you get weak.

Lo, those who now called themselves atheist today also went through your same process, hearing the same things that you know and coming to the same conclusion you have, yet because of the wrongness of it, they decided not to deceive themselves no further as they gave up.

You may not give up as easily as they did but you would not let the Truth in that your lives have not truly far improved since you did your thing, after all the time you have taken running on this erroneous road away from God!

And you guys will not listen until you are exhausted.

Mikee19:
It's a sad story. See how readily i took apart his beliefs and showed it up for the nonsense (stuff that doesn't make sense) that it is. Asking questions he dare cannot answer. But tomorrow will still persist in this foolishness.

I usually do not speak in this way. But I've not seen stuff like this all my life. Quite sad

That is why I call him insane!

Wilgrea7:
I think a much better question is ... What do you mean by "God"?

Seeing that no thing created itself in this world nor are they capable of so doing and therefore, we refer to that Someone who created this lovely "house" we call earth and everything in it as The One Who we call God!

Wilgrea7:
2. What gives you the impression that IF a god exists, it has to be singular? .

Because we have seen that it Only One can be King or Lord of the land (Land Lord).

If there are 2 more, there will be war. And when there is war the inhabitants will suffer.

But as you see, no War above and the tenants/inhabitants of the earth dwell in peace.

No 2 Earth Lords fighting which make the we earthlings suffer.

AntiChristian:
Abeg how is Jesus Christ God and one of trinity of three Gods often called one?

When the bank takes your money, or your car is stolen from the bank premises, now you would know that they are ONE for even the gateman who works for them is also "the Bank!

It's as simple as that!

Jesus Christ is The Same Lord God in Genesis 2:4

Different from The Highest, Called God in Genesis 1 upto Genesis 2:3

divinemichael:
Note; I don't misunderstand the trinity, I clearly understand that Christ is God in the sense that he is one of the trinity, and consubstantial with God and is infact God's word, and thus God.
My question is how come he gave laws to Moses, and later came to earth to find fault in some of those same laws? Isn't that inconsistent?

This is not True!

It is rather He was opening to us some hidden lessons and blessings, in The Law which people being stupid and evil as they usually are, miss.

So, no where did He fault The Law.

And your belief in fault comes from the fact that your pastors have been teaching you this, whereas, they too are stupid themselves since they were not able to decode what He was saying and therefore took the easy, lazy way out of explaining this wonderful hidden teaching!

Sixfiguresmart:
Yes, that is why I asked. If that figure of speech could be disfigured by speech

Yes it can by saying "giving the ghost up"!

gurusubai7:
A Christian lady, who never believed the dead and the living are intertwined, wrote to me and said, "Now she is convinced dead people walk side by side with human beings."

She told me she was in a company of neighbours mourning the sudden death of a jovial lady, not long afterward, a neighbour who was not aware of the death of the jovial lady just walked into the compound and told them she saw the dead lady on the road and the dead lady told her to greet her children if she sees them. 

DO YOU BELIEVE THE DEAD IS ALWAYS WITH US AND WHY?

www.gurudeseyesubai.org

There are too many independent and unsolicited reports of this, so this is a case of there no smoke without fire.

But, it does not require anyone to believe exactly as one does not need to live in anticipation of aliens until an alien lives with you.

immaculatesense:
Lol...I know u would wanna run...u didn't tie all the loose ends in ur comment...

An issue ends when you run to a fresh issue.

Which is why I said raise a new thread if you think you have a valid claim. We would put it down one issue at a time. No new issues, no departure from issue, no invalid arguments, no twistings and bendings and unlawful colourations, no Lies and of course no fallacies.

premjithbpk:
Fear is usually a quality that is not desired.

That is because Harm and Destruction is also a King over all creations.

premjithbpk:
All our life we are asked not to fear. We always hear that we need to be bold.

Good, you have observed this! Do you not see that it is a teaching that is sending you to destruction and harm?

Do you not see and know who is the king and teaches these kind of things and where it comes from?

Do you now appreciate why Christ said "hate the world for the world leads you to your own death"?

Happy is that man who beareth all the words of The Lord and hideth His Commandments to obey them!

I am very happy you have observed this evil!

immaculatesense:
I only explained the fall of man to u and wat led to his corruption...

You did not need to! IT WAS NOT THE ISSUE OF THE DEBATE. Learn to Stick to the issue of the debate without deviation and departures. That's how debates work

Open a fresh thread on any issue you wish to debate with me. That's how it works!

immaculatesense:
Lol...I was only telling u wat happened

It was completely unnecessary, Stick to the issue of the debate without deviation and departures. That's how debates work!

immaculatesense:
Now u said...every man created have the holy spirit at creation...

There is no Re-argument after a debate is concluded! It's Res judicata!

immaculatesense:
Lol...u make me laugh...force?...hell No...
I said Teaching and Prayer...

The spirit of your words says kobojunkie must change by fire and by force. See it

"It is our duty and Joy to keep teaching and praying for them...no soul MUST be lost...even Paul can be saved...him and many more others will come to the light of the truth...WE DONT GIVE UP

immaculatesense:
Ohhh...I now know where the problem lies...u don't know why the holy spirit was given...

See, another CHANGE OF POST all because you want to avoid The Truth I have laid before you.

The question was "Which Spirit does God have, that He would give, when He gives? Is it an Unholy one?" Now you have Changed it to "WHY The Holy Spirit was given" which no one asked!

You do not have any valid way to go!

immaculatesense:
Now I realize the little glitches u av in Bible interpretation...u don't know which one comes first...
Ohhh...u think a holy man house the holy spirit...instead it should be...
The Holy spirit in man makes man holy...

See, now you are twisting it the other way round and bending it again into the lie you wish to hold, when the issue here was simply because I clearly said "Holy God gives Holy Spirit and therefore man had the Holy Spirit when he was created" which you disputed until I showed Mathew 7:17/18.

No fraud escapes me.

Clearly you see the lies you have been taught do not stand, so you are scrambling all over the place to make it stand and I don't want to do so because TRUTH IS STABLE AND COMPLETE.

This debate has long since been over. God is pure and all who want to be with Him must be pure. That is The Law. Holy and unholy can never ever be put together.

immaculatesense:
It is our duty and Joy to keep teaching and praying for them...no soul must be lost...even Paul can be saved...him and many more others will come to the light of the truth...WE DONT GIVE UP

That I will not do for it is easier to force a horse to drink than to get an adult to change his ways exactly, as the Bible tried and it did not work. The Lord Himself tried and yet men refused to listen.

HellVictorinho4:
He might have said he chooses not to believe.

But that doesn't mean not believing is by choose.

A person need not profess his beliefs, if we get close to him, we would see it.

Wilgrea7:
I know what hearsay is. There is a difference between fact and hearsay. We both know China is a country... Not because we've gone there, but because we have undeniable proof that it is..

But this is besides the point. I have agreed to keep the discussion in the realm of earth as you suggested... so feel free to proceed with your questions

I did not expect you to get back to earth so I forgotten your issue.

Kobojunkie:
I understand that I am deluded simply because[b] i don't spew the same lies your pastors[/b] and mogs have fed you lot with. Yet not a single one of you has been able to prove me wrong by the Word of God Himself, Jesus Christ. What a shame, yet you call Him Savior!

At least you confess that you Lie, only that it is a different type of Lie! The kobojunkie type.

immaculatesense:
Dear Mikee19
I guess @kobojunkie only believes in the four gospels (Matthew,Mark,Luke and John)... precisely only wat Jesus says wen he was on earth... anything else doesn't matter to him...

Just keep that in mind when u av a conversation with him

3 or 4 years back he even moved from being slightly pro-God to full blown Anti-God and supported all the works of atheists, with many asking him are you an atheist or something.

Then when he saw God overcoming their arguments he then transformed to the rubbish we see today.

He is definitely still suffering from the mental imbalance he once confessed that he was afflicted with.

That is the story of kobojunkie over the period of time I have seen.

Mikee19:
One more thing I must mention is that you're probably waiting to feel something, for some external "force" to come take over you before you believe you've received from God...

Like the Day of Pentecost, there is an external change when The Holy Spirit Comes.

immaculatesense:
God is the Holy spirit...is anyone contesting that? NO

Good! Since you know and have admitted that God is The Holy Spirit, what then did Mathew 7:17-18 teach?

Answer:" A Mango can never give bitter kola!"

Therefore, The Holy, must give The Holy! That is The Law!

My case is rested!

Mikee19:
You see, it is true the disciples had to wait for the gift the Holy Spirit BECAUSE HE WAS NOT YET GIVEN:

...Jesus told them to wait for him to send the Holy Spirit . That's the only reason they had to wait! But, see this: HE ALSO TOLD THEM WHERE TO WAIT TOO!

NKJV Lu 24:49: "⁴⁹ … but tarry in the city of Jerusalem …"

Now let's assume some believer there heard this, and then went on to wait in the City of Galilee. Would he receive the gift of the Holy Spirit on that day he was poured out upon them? NO!

What if he waited in Nazareth instead? NO!

He had to wait in ONE PLACE and ONE PLACE ONLY to receive the Spirit.

He had to wait in JERUSALEM only! ...

Oh Sweet! Someone Sees! All the things and more I wish to say but could not. Eg what if He goes awhoring whilst in Jerusalem, shall he receive it?

No!

immaculatesense:
Dear Dtruthspeaker
Lol...Genesis 2:7 and John 1:3,4 and 9 u quoted was never talking about the holy spirit. Genesis 2:7

..[/quote]Which Spirit does God have, that He would give, when He gives? Is it an Unholy one?

Can a Mango give bitter kola? Mathew 7:17-18

It is just plain simple common sense!

Sixfiguresmart:
I get the point, but my ish is the cultural acceptance and moreso by people who do lack access to research.

Natural living shows that there are many things we can do without one of which is endless enquiry.

HellVictorinho4:
You suggest adults can choose not to believe.... how's that?

We have already seen how adults choose not to believe eg a man choosing not to believe that he is in love with a prostitute as proven by a thread in romance or so.

HellVictorinho4:
Also unreasonable and invalid to suggest a request for the impossible and ridiculous in my post.

You are talking to the wrong person, I made no request

tctrills:
Explain yourself

It is now stale!