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Maynman:
Yahweh failed? Bwahahahah

Smh! A Person who is trying to save another person in trouble does not fail where his attempts to save is frustrated by the very same idiot who requires rescue.

The Saviour does not suffer any loss or harm, it is the idiot who shall continue in his suffering until he dies.

But The Saviour is fine and unaffected.

Hermes119:
Let me ask you a question
Are you of the opinion that God can't fix Nigeria ?

Ambiguous Question, however, my Answer is God has Already Planned on Changing this world by destroying it and making a new one with only good doing people in it.

Hermes119:
Great !!!!
A Jehovah witness' point of view
Well majority of Christians do not agree with you and by the way do you pray to God to solve your needs. And why does the world need to get worse until Gods kingdom come and not otherwise ?

Any person who does not agree with this answer is not a Christian.

Hermes119:
Now I've got a perfect idea of how God can fix over half of Nigeria's problems and at the same time convert maybe all of the nations population and beyond to his preferred religion (Christianity or Islam) and at the same time solve over half of believers needs,now check this out

What God has to do is very simple,inflict anybody that is involved in embezzling of funds(I mean those who are doing it at that point not retrospectively) with a particular gruesome illness that is intractable to any treatment and then speak through a respected prophet informing the whole nation that he is responsible for the situation and why,...

He did that and more to Israel and it did not work.

If people do not want to do that which is good, then, as God has done, no thing can be done.

God did it all but man is unsavable if and where he does not want to be saved.

OGwales:
Lies... A lot of so called Christians are unfortunate and wallowing in poverty and sorrow. So save that.

A lot of people call themselves Christians but are not and even men are deceived, God is not, and therefore, the deceivers live in the Curses that God has laid for all foolish men.

LordReed:
Again we are not talking about acts. You cannot be prosecuted for your thoughts alone simple.

Thoughts almost always have an action eye blinkingly immediately following it.

OGwales:
Stop overhyping God. You said God is everywhere, so where was God when ...

The Usual Songs of Lamentations of the foolish.

God is Too Too Too Much and only the wise enter into His Blessings.

And the foolish shall continue to eat their breads of sorrows!

LordReed:
Oga we are talking about thoughts not acts. You cannot be prosecuted for your thoughts alone.

You almost never "thought alone". When ever you thought, an act almost always follows it.

LordReed:
Wrong. You can think all the bad thoughts you want and never follow it up with action. Nobody can be prosecuted for merely having bad thoughts. It is until you take action can a prosecutable case be made against you. An attempt to kill is a prosecutable action, mere thought cannot be prosecuted.

And I have said that "THERE IS ALMOST NO THOUGHT WITHOUT ITS IMMEDIATE ACCOMPANYING ACT." which can render you prosecutable if it is evil an evil one.

Danhumprey:
Free Will, in the sight of a supposed omniscient, omnipresent god, is "him" basically telling you "look, I created you. And I grant you the freedom, the free will, to do as you like, do whatever you want. But that your free will is only restricted to two choices: you do what I like, even if you don't like it, if it doesn't make sense to you, but as it's what I like, you must do it. And if you do it, I'll reward you with heaven. That's choice one. Choice two, you don't do what I like, what I ask you to do, but instead do what you like and that offends me and goes contrary to what I asked you to do, I'll punish you with eternal suffering in hell fire."


Tell me again about"free will".

That is what it means to be a creation,

CREATIONS ARE NEVER ABSOLUTELY FREE.

YOU DO NOT HAVE ABSOLUTE FREEDOM.

Free will, "is the power and ability to freely choose any thing, from the options available."

LordReed:
Show us the ones that were arrested because they were merely thinking of it.

I have already shown you the types of people who as soon as it is seen that they have such evil thoughts, they would be brought to rest.

LordReed:
LoLz! Where in those does it say you can prosecute someone for his thoughts.

This was the question you asked which is why I have shown you The Laws of Thoughts (Animus) and the type of people prosecuted for their evil intentions, for nlot crying out loud.

And that is the catch! Even in thoughts, THERE ARE ACTS AND ACTIONS OF GUILT THERE THAT THE POLICE CAN USE TO PROSECUTE AND SEEK CONVICTION.

THERE IS ALMOST NO THOUGHT WITHOUT ITS IMMEDIATE ACCOMPANYING ACT.

Hence the brother of Section 316 comes in

Section 320 of the Criminal Code,

"Any person who:
(a.) Attempts unlawfully to kill another; or (b) With intent unlawfully to kill another...,

Maynman:
You are an illiterate. The action must have occurred first, you are just disgracing yourself.

You are a spectacularly stupid fool, who thinks because you can read, you can know.

"TERRORIST, BANDITS, YAHOO-YAHOO BOYS, DRUG DEALERS, ETC WILL NEVER BE ARRESTED AND PROSECUTABLE IF THE NATION HAS TO WAIT FOR THEM TO COMMIT THE CRIMES FIRST!

if not that this was very important for the public to know, I would not have responded to you. You are too Stupid for any reasonable engagement.

Gben5:
according to the Bible God knows or knew us before we were born...so why will he watch us sine and die ...burn in hell fire for life?...God is compassionate

Because as Jashub rightly answered, "knowing" is not the same as results.

Eg We know our children in schools will either pass or fail their exams BUT THE PASSING OF FAILING IS THEIRS TO PRODUCE.

LordReed:
Oga just quote the section that says you can prosecute someone for thought crime.

Ehen, better!

Intention to kill. "Animus necandi" Section 316 (1) (2) and (4). Criminal Code.

Intention to steal "Animus furandi" Section 383 (2) Criminal Code.

yeshuasfootstep:
Thank you for your honesty, many polygamists today are also in the same shoes with Oga Jacob or similar. So nobody has the right to condemn them because polygamy is not sin. Thanks.


Modified : My next topic will be on practicing Godly polygamy. Moderators should please not invite God's wrath by tampering with these discussions in any way.

I have shown you how it is a sin and the very slim exception and now you seek to make an exception, a way or defence for an unlawful act.

Know ye this therefore, A person is still liable for wilfully breaking A Law, because he wishes to take the benefits of its Exception.

God shall not be mocked, the soul that sinneth shall not be blameless.

Maynman:
That’s a lie, men rea is not a crime and it has never been prosecuted.
Stop reading half things.

Boy, even with your Google, you are still full of nothingnes. Let real lawyers come and say that I am wrong.

johnydon22:
"Accept my love or I hurt you" is an idea we all will recoil at its thought. ..

This is not True in and for Christ Followership.

What we have is

"Why are you so wicked and evil to everything and everyone I created? Do you not know that My ears are filled with their cries?

You do not even fear Me, your ceeator, such that you also do evil to me because I love you and held you close!

I did not create you so. And you already know that I hate wickedness and evil.

So, change quickly before I turn and hear the cries thereof and pour my anger on you"

yeshuasfootstep:
I must commend you for the way you have diligently followed this discussion in a civilised and intelligent manner.

It shows that this forum has matured people. Thank you so much.

The only problem I see us battling with now is that Polygamy is cheating and therefore is a sin.

Please, answer this question truthfully.
Did Jacob cheat on his first wife?

Thanks

No he did not.

1) Why, because of Law - "Consent, is The Law".

And his consent was with his second wife, not with the Wife God gave him, for Leah was God's choice and Gift to him, but he did not see it like that.

And if you look closely, you would see that he did not consumate (sex) the marriage until he had married his choice of wife and God shut her womb.

Law- A marriage not consumated is almost no marriage and voidable.

2) The Law of Fraud!

Fraud, duress, lack of consent and lack of proper notification NULLIFIES ANY ACTION TAKEN ON ANY OF THESE UNLAWFULLS and will render it nullified.

LordReed:
LoLz! Quote the section of the criminal code that makes someone prosecutable for intent before a crime has been committed.

See, what you said, whereas I said

"After the crime has been committed in his mind, (men Rea) he is prosecutable"

LordReed:
After the crime has been committed. You cannot prosecute someone of mens rea before a crime has been committed.

After the crime has been committed in his mind, (men Rea) he is prosecutable.

So, end of the line.

LordReed:
Thoughts are not crime.

Thoughts of crime, ARE CRIMES! Hence why I said mens rea meaning "Guilty Mind"!

yeshuasfootstep:
Thank you, please the quotation. I want to see where the divorce was perfected. Thanks.

You see God still speaking to Moses till he died long after she had gone. As with Saul, David, Solomon and Abraham, God stops talking with people when they become unrighteous.

yeshuasfootstep:
No king will be alive for you to have his wife, it is either through death by war or natural death...

You are talking about he who has already said he did do that which he knew should not have done.

yeshuasfootstep:
So I am not talking of cheating on your wife but marrying more than one wife which is polygamy.

Polygamy is always a cheating and always starts with cheating, for you already had a wife, who would never willingly let you have relations with another woman, not to talk of you marrying her.

yeshuasfootstep:
Lastly your quote of Exodus on following multitude to commit sin is out of context because we are not talking about sin but polygamy which we have clearly seen from the bible that it is not sin.

As you have seen and admitted, cheating, is a sin. And polygamy is a cheating.

Maynman:
So how many people has police arrested for having thoughts?
You just type before thinking

Police arrest when they are ready to arrest, hence why I said "All is left for

nevertheless in the day when I visit I will visit their sin upon them."

Maynman:
So how many people has police arrested for having thoughts?

All is left for

"nevertheless in the day when I visit I will visit their sin upon them."

LordReed:
Exactly. Human beings should not be policing other peoples thoughts.

When a crime is committed, The Police must come in to ascertain guilt.

yeshuasfootstep:
Go to 1 king 15 : 3, you will see how David was described as one whose heart was perfect with the lord...
This is a man who has married up to seven wives before Uriah's case. See 1 Samuel 18 : 27. 25:42-43, 2 Samuel 3: 2-5.

And he is the same one who took out time to clearly warn every man saying 'Dont go that Way! Death and hell is there. Stick to the wife of thy youth".

For he fell from the favour of The Lord when he cheated on his wife, Micah, long before he even met Abigail and all his destruction, disgrace, shame, despair started.

Which is why you see in proverbs 5, 7,8,9, you see very clear warnings, "drink waters from thy own cistern; her paths go down to death"

yeshuasfootstep:
Also go to 2 Samuel 12: 8 and hear God himself, " I was willing to give you your master's house and put your master's wives in your arms...

Evil bible wiill of course give you this interpretation, whereas KJV told you that passage means "I was willing to give you dominion over your master's house that even his wives would be your subjects" (for you know wives of kings are very high so tgeu will never be subject to any one).

But because of the lustiness and sexual fantasies of filthy men, your lust blinds you all from seeing that God will never ever give you somebodys wife.

Why, do you think Joseph was highly honoured? And do you see that even when obviously, thanks to lamech, people were already having 2 wives, but he stuck to his one? Same for Job.

"Follow not the multitude to do an evil" Exodus 23:2

yeshuasfootstep:
Throw more light on this issue of Moses marrying twice. What happened to the first wife? We are all learners. Give your quotations so I check it up.

God started speaking with Moses after his marriage to Zipporah, who saw everything God did with Moses and through Moses for Israel.

Yet she returned to her land. This means even though SHE HAD SEEN firsthand, The Lord in Action for herself, SHE REJECTED HIM, EVEN TO HIS FACE AND PRESENCE.

So, this divorce was granted by God, for only a holy woman can bear to live with Moses and clearly Zippy stopped being holy.

End of marriage.

Then, the second came in, IN THE PRESENCE OF THE LORD, FOR WE SEE THE LORD NEVER STOPPED TALKING TO MOSES until Moses died, unlike Abraham!

Workch:
Did you ever notice that miracles got smaller over time? First the god made the whole universe. Then it went down to parting the Red Sea. Then it went down to Jesus healing one blind man. Now we see nothing that can be proven. And it is because as time moved along, smart people and documentation, and eventually cameras stifled the unbelievable.

Simple! Because that's what God is supposed to do.

A king only needs to acts Once! After that, it is consequences that would follow.

Maynman:
They have cases to answer to the Christian god but What about the Judaist and Muslim god? They need not answer them?

Any body who is greater than man if they have power to make a case against men, will do so whether I say so or not.

LordReed:
There is no way to avoid such thoughts, what is more important are people's actions.

You are referring to actus reus.

It is man who cannot completely prove beyond reasonable doubt any guilt without "actus reus" in most cases.

But, God convict a person beyond all doubts with "mens rea" alone for He sees the hearts of men.

That is what that Law of the Commencement of Guilt and Sin and Liability is warning people.