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Hope2014:
Though there may be a criteria for God hardening a person's heart may be pride or foolishness. Am a man ooo, just guessing. All i know is a proud or foolish person cannot be granted understanding from God.

True!

Felimax:
There are two categories of sinners, the ones that run after sinful desires and the ones that run away from sinful desires. Find where you belong.

Sorry for my long story.

Sweet Truth!

ClipHog:
Work out your salvation with fear and trembling.

How can I do that when in every split sec I eered Hellfire pops?

Then do not do any wrong thing.

ClipHog:
... I beg me to ask questions like:

what joy is God the all merciful, all loving (as he's been described) will drive out of the eternal torment of people in the Hellfire?

Surely you heard that it pains Him when sinners die, but nevertheless, The Law must run its course and sinners must die.

ClipHog:
Is there really an oita of love in a father who can subject his child to this kind of punishment?

Did you not hear that love is reciprocal? You people even do worse when your stupid children have annoyed you and have no patience at all.

Yet, God is even too long suffering and too patient. But fools forget that all these have time limits. And your cup gets fool and running over.

ClipHog:
Why am i going to be punished for eternity for the wrongdoing I have done in the place I didnt concent for?

Good weekend!

Which wrongdoing did you not consent in doing? Is it in lying or in wishing people dead or in sleeping with someone's husband or wife, or in putting your neighbour in trouble simply because you were envious of him?

Did you not desire (consent) to do all of these evil things?

Rubbish!

Because bad creations are always destroyed and thrown into the Fire!

Uchesis:
Spirits don't burn bro.

The Maker and Owner has said He will burn it, so you can not say otherwise especially as you are not the one who made spirit, so you do not know and can not know.

cornelboy:
You no even sure of yourself you dé talk say we dé twist.

Efribody don see your twist and I sure reach Zuma rock.

cornelboy:
You go dè run mouth everywhere. You no know shingbain. Keep your assumptions.

I go run mouth where The Owner don talk stop. Na you dey use your wish wey no even dey book.

Maynman:
Then you cannot speak about it. You only have assumptions z

And you see I did not speak about it, but it is you who asked me to speak about, what I did not speak about!

Hermes119:
If I set an alarm to wake up by 4 am every morning then I'm subject to that in the sense that I have to obey the alarm. If I flout it then I'm not subject to it.

Answer the question put to you if you like or stay silent, BUT DO NOT CHANGE THE QUESTION.

Should you choose to answer it, we shall see how you reason.

But I respect the fact that you have avoided answering the question, which of course has told us, the Truth, which you do not want to profess.

And of course I do not compell you to answer, for you have answered already by your non-answer and evasion.

NuclearReactor:
. No!! Instead he even interacted with them and stood up for the right thing, so??

Do you not see what happens here when we stand against them? Do you not see how they murder us?

If online, we are recipients of their murderings, is it now in their presence?

To even see that He too was murdered.

His death and the death of the prophets is enough and Proverbs and Psalms has warned us on how to conduct ourselves especially before the ungodly.

"Depart from me all ye workers of iniquity; the wicked watcheth the righteous and seeketh to slay him: An unjust man is an abomination to the righteous; And he that is upright in the way is an abomination to the wicked."

Birds of the same feather, flock together. A man is known by the company he keeps. The company you keep determines the direction of your life.

Maynman:
What’s the substance that the spirit is made of that it can get burnt? Does the spirit have feelings? Legs? Bones?

I am not the one who made it.

cornelboy:
Let's me assume that it illustrates an incinerator with literal fire, and according to the chapter, those wicked people that were cast into the lake of fire were first raised to life which means it's their body that will be cast into the fire.

You people and your twistings just to avoid the unpleasant Truth

God Already Said your body is useless and it is your spirit he is interested in. The body is just a cloth covering the spirit.

And He has told you that what we call die is "sleeping" aka Rest, certainly not for the cloth we see which has turned to dust.

Therefore, Resurrection is about awakening of the spirit.

Therefore, it is the spirit, who ye are that will be destroyed in the lake of fire.

However, by the Ezekiel's dry bones, it may well be a resurrection of both the body and spirit and both would be thrown into the lake of Fire whole.

cornelboy:
Wouldn't the fire consume them completely just in some hours?
Of course even their bones would in no time turn to charcoal.

I Don't know about this part and would not speak on it since The Lord did not Speak on this part.

SocialJustice:
Isn't it crazy that some of you believe God created spirits so that at the end of a short earthly life, He can roast them in fire for eternity?

No different from us keeping our machines and fires to destroy any corrolla and Camry and mannequins which messes up and deem it not fit to live.

SocialJustice:
You are free to believe what you want but let me tell you, you will keep being reincarnated on this earth until you attain enlightenment.

Same as you. Funny how you have never re-incarnated your own creations after their death yet you entertain a hope of repeated living

What a wish!

SocialJustice:
Everybody is on their own journey.

We are already on our journeys.

ENGINEERG:
Earth is spherical in shape...not flat...Also check the globe pics to know better. And also, see the planets diagram

Did I say anything about it being flat or oblong or round?

Omooba77:
God is ever truthful......

Always, whether even when the Truth shall be unpleasant to its consumers.

NuclearReactor:
Dtruthspeaker Its funny how you pick out only parts of my post, you didnt see the place where i said that the church is a mixed multitude, and even at that so you think you are the only one serving God rightly, no one else but you, lol, you better come to terms that you may be as imperfect as they are and even if you are better, you would seek to make an impact on that assembly and not leave!!

You would say it is a mixed multitude because you do not know that birds of the same feather, flock together. Evil doing people can not bear the presence of righteous people and righteous people can not bear the presence of evil lovers. And we know ourselves on sight.

Therefore, they can never be gathered in the same place.

Birds of the same feather always flock together.

That was my point.

SocialJustice:
Nothing like hellfire. If a person dies believing they will go to hellfire, sure they will because their mind is that powerful to create it but it won't be long, they'll be reborn into this planet with no memory of their previous life.

Imagine, Yaris is telling Corolla that Mr.Toyoda does not have an incinerator!

What a wishful thinking.

4tomandchi:
...The big question here is Did God Really Create Hell Fire?

Do you not know that every time a creation is made, the Creator too must make a machine or device which can destroy that creation, exactly as we have crushers and incinerators for our cars and furnace for our spoons, bottles etc?

4tomandchi:
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As we are meant to understand everything originated from God the Devil was created as Lucifer. Everything was good.
So where did evil emanated from?

1) Acid is good in the hands of battery makers but it is evil in the hands of prostitute.s

2) God has a thing for FIRST, both for blessings and for curses and obviously Satan is the first person to have fallen out of line, hence he was cursed to be evil.

And he, like a prostitu te unauthorisingly uses evil beyonds it's lawful use.

4tomandchi:
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Will all souls in Hell be saved at last?

There is no saving in eternal destruction, when a thing is thrown into the fire, it can never be saved..

No 1 is Stupidity!

ENGINEERG:
When you ask alot of people, where is the Heaven? they point to the Top.
Even in most movies, they represent heaven as the sky.
But in geographic, the Top we point to as Heaven , is actually another country or planet.

So where is currently heaven?

I believe they pointed to the sky and there is no country in the sky and the planets have their own set positions so no one pointed to them.

NuclearReactor:
So some weeks ago I stumbled on a thread here where someone was talking about the possibility of a person to love God but not attend church, well many people agreed with him, i couldn't comment early on that thread so this is sort of a reply...

You cannot claim you LOVE Jesus and NOT LOVE his body!! The church.
Emphasis is on "loving Jesus" and not on identifying as a Christian!!

This is certainly a Twisting.

For church in that thread clearly meant a physical building, with an identifiable name and a people who subscribe to that name on that building.

NuclearReactor:
• , if you truly love someone you would want to be in his house with those he loves.
Ps 122:1 "I was glad when they said unto me, let us go to the house of the lord"

When the House of The Lord was turned to a den of thieves and liars and adulterers and whorers, can The Lord ever be there?

Never!

So, no one will ever see Him there.

NuclearReactor:
• The attitude of not wanting to be around any gathering of Christians shows that you are either INDIFFERENT or hateful towards fellow Christians and shows that you don't love others who are God's children.

You can not call people who lie, steal, commiting adultery and even boasting about it, planning on commuting and very wicked, Christ- like. You obviously forgot that "Christian" means "Christ-like".

And the people in churches are very very far from being Christ like. They are simply church goers.

Therefore, they are Anti-Christ and thus, Christians can not keep company with Anti-Christs.

And for not remembering all these, you are not a Christian. You are just a church goer, seeking the company of your fellow church going club.

And your ability to twist the Truth, into something Not-the-Truth (exactly like jws and i-hate-God do), shows how far you are not Christ-like aka Christian.

Hermes119:
I asked you a simple question that requires a simple answer I don't know why you like beating about the bush.

I did not go round the question, I answered it by making you participate in its Answer.

Hermes119:
... In that case you agree that God is subject to his law,the reason for that is not relevant at this point, the important thing is that your God is subject to something
I rest my case

Because you are home by 10 would you say you are subject to your own law?

cornelboy:
Lol. The people will be destroyed together with hell, death, Satan,.....

That is what God clearly Said.. Lake of Fire is His Incinerator which destroys his creations, like our own which destroys our creations.

Guderian:
Do you believe there is a heaven and hell. If you believe there is no hell and heaven. Why and what caused you to believe so.

I beleve there is a heaven and hell.

The Owner and Creator has Said it is there so how can we creations say it is not?

Shall a Camry be correct say to Mr. Toyota that there is no Toyota heaven (Obi Cubana's garage or Toyota hell (Incinerator and Crushing Machine)?

cornelboy:
Death and hell are not some material that can burn in a fire

You are not the owner of death and hell, therefore you can not know whether it can not burn.

cornelboy:
Lake of fire symbolises eternal destruction. You know when something cease to exist

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Same thing happens when a Camry is thrown into our Incinerators.

cornelboy:
If everyone in the new world would have eternal life through Jesus, logically death and hell couldn't exist. They would have no place in the new world.

You jws and your love for twisting things and making unlawful connections to suit your wishes.

Clearly, it was also said, that "all those people who are found condemned" shall be thrown into the same lake of Fire which is destroying hell and death.

But you guys develop self inflicted blindness to this part.

cornelboy:
Revelation 20:14
[14]And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

Is hell and death something that could be cast and burn in fire?
Or does the lake of fire symbolise something else?

The Creator and Owner of all things including death and hell has already Said that it can be cast into another of His creation, which He knows shall destroy them, called Lake of Fire.

Clearly, they are as real as the crushing machine and incinerator which men use to destroy their own creations.

frank317:
If someone prays and he does not get answers, isnt it a good reason to think God does not exist?

Who answers and listens to strangers?

frank317:
...Really if God answers prayers, would there really be atheists?

If people like you were not wicked and evil, definitely, there would be no division.

frank317:
Guy pls rest, your imaginary God no get level, or worst still he is confused. Did he also curse ur mother or wife cause she went through labour pain while giving birth?

I think your God is the foolish thing here

See personal attack all because, you do not want to face the Truth that you are a fool and that the evil you live in, is your own results of Foolishness!

My mother had terrible birthings and she is not a good person.

My wife on the other hand, went from easy to easier and right from when I met her acquittance in the university, a virgin she was, i knew immediately that if I meet her, she would get pregnant. No delay, no hardship, no suffering (exactly how as God Said) and she is one of the most right doing person I have ever met.

So, evil people like you and your wife will get all the Curses, you will work miserably and your wife will still live in great sorrow, anger and frustration and nearly die or die in child birth, because you are the fool, and the one who is complaining about this world.

If you hate living in His World, do yourself a favour and kill yourself.

Hermes119:
So God is subject to the Law he made ?

When you make a law that all your children and household are to be in your house by 10pm, is it not your right and choice to be home by 10 too?

You certainly do.

That is what it means to be A Ruler.

Hermes119:
What the fellow is saying is that it is embarrassing to acknowledge that your God failed at something, it's just like saying a novice beat Magnus Carlsen in chess,it can only happened if Magnus didn't want to win the game because there is no question to his ability,the guy beats champions in the game of chase while blindfolded
Likewise if God is all-knowing and all powerful he can't fail because he would know if a plan would work or not and if he wants to achieve something(in this case) saving humans he should be able do that very easily with human cooperation or not,if not then that raises two questions.
Can he do everything ?
How willing is he to save humans ?

Can a novice beat Magnus?

No, it is impossible!

So, the question is and will always be "what is Magnus doing in allowing a novice win?

And the Answer, in the case of God is Law for He did Law, that His Law (Word) shall be honoured even above His Name.

And what does The Law Say?

"No One shall Save a Person who does not want to be saved"!

frank317:
what curse? ...

Did you not hear that "from the sweat of thy brow will you find food? That you shall Suffer before you eat, because the ground shall not co-operate with you? That you shall work from morning till evening only to get sorrows as your food" among other Curses?

From generation to generation have you all not confessed, saying, "Life is haaard?"

His Curses are heavy enough for Him to ignore you people most especially as you people think you are intelligent, whereas, you people are quite very stupid and you people die in your stupidity Curse crying "Life is Hard: Life is Hard Oooh" and all those stupid lamentations.

Exactly as God politely Said but I would not be polite in repeating it,"You all perish because you are very very stupid"