₦airaland Forum

LordReed:
Nope because there are things that happen without a cause.

That's a Fat ass Lie.

LordReed:
Ok I guess we are agreed that we have not observed any god causing anything.

And we also agreed that where there is a Cause, there is always The Causer as proven by Nature!

LordReed:
Except no god has ever been observed causing anything.

Because you came in too late after God has already finished Causing. Imagine, mannequin wey jus come wan observe when e creator don build finish.

Na you late come.

LordReed:
No you are talking rubbish. Anecdotal observation is not evidence. Your attempts at gatekeep fail miserably.

Say whatever you want the Truth still stands that you know nothing about evidence or court processes.

LordReed:
LoLz! Your anecdotal observation is hearsay, no court will admit it as evidence.

Again, you know nothing about evidence, acceptance of evidence in court and what hearsay evidence is, until you are lawyer

so you are talking rawbish.

LordReed:
The cause of the effect has not been showing to be a god.

Nature has already proven that where there is a Cause, there is always The Causer!

No smoke without fire, no fire without The Maker of Fire!

LordReed:
Anecdotal observation is hearsay.

You do not know what hearsay is and cannot know what it is until you have spent 6 years in University of Law and Law School

Nezzjnr:
They don't want to remain in a place where they'll be told the Truth.

Catholic church and Truth is like calling a prostitu.te a virgin.

FERNANDEZISBACK:
The children are getting wiser and smarter than you adults who fail to think for yourself that religion is nothing but a bondage meant to cage gullible ones..

And half of them would be dead by self cide or murdered by their own mates another portion shall be imprisoned and yet another portion shall be impoverished before they are 30. Yeah, they are wiser in deed.

suicidesheep:
And which evidence did u give

As if you know evidence and go through my threads before you start trying to reply because I said you do not know much about evidence.

LordReed:
LoLz! Please which court do you go to that accepts hearsay as evidence?

Rawbish! You would have raised this objection, if you truly thought I had given hearsay evidence.

So, No Road!

LordReed:
I didn't accept it, anecdotal observation is not evidence. Data that has been rigorously collected for decades beats your observations of posts on NL.

1. How you people who know almost nothing on evidence say "this is evidence and this is not evidence" is always amazing and hilarious especially when speaking to me.

Evidence, is not whatever anyone chooses to call a thing.

2. It is known that data is almost never accurate eg unemployment data and that it does not beat not compare with Simple Natural Observation.

Kunzhar:
However you will see them actively and consciously engaging in actions supposedly considered sin in their religions such as:

You have said everything. People never live according to what how they know and say that they should live.

JayWriter:
It's so despicable seeing people arrogantly refusing to practice what they preach. And they will come to complain that the leaders are corrupt, very few Nigerians can say they wrote their ssce without engaging in some form of exam malpractice. :'

Not very few but very many until you people ended "To repeat Class" and "Expelled for inability to cope with school" and giving jobs and promotions to Dundees and prostititute.s instead of The Qualified.

So people have rewarded genuine hardwork with failures and frustrations while rewarding cheats with success up to even Presidency eg Buhari certificate affair, Chicago and Toronto certificate forgeries.

And of course teaching everyone to cheat and prostit.ute to survive eg see how bad and terrible English is flowing everywhere from people who claim to have gone to school.

As Okey Bakassi said
"Truth has been stiffled so that stupid people can be comfortable"

LordReed:
LoLz! You have zero evidence of your assertion but when evidence is presented to refute your assertion you turn to trite sayings. Bwahahahahaha!

Not True! I gave evidence of my assertion and you accepted it.

Now you supplied a rebuttal evidence, which I countered with Sayings of Truths, calling it, "A Very Big Lie"!

LordReed:
Ok so just your anecdotal observation. Well the statistics say otherwise. General human life expectancy has improved. See attached chart.

"There are three types of lies.
lies, damn lies, and statistics."

LordReed:
Can we have the evidence that young people are dying 4x faster than their parents?

It's proven in its itself. Starting from what I would call the last generation of the pre-tribulation world children (those born in the 80s) are substantially burying their parents most of whom died after 70years. AS IS SEEN. And many of their parents are now heading to the 80 years or 80.

But crime section clearly shows and proves how many parents today are burying their children and are going to be burying their children rather than their children burying them, as it was in the pre-tribulation world. We all see these things for those who care to see.

suicidesheep:
Are Nigerians not complaining that life was better before buhari. Not everything is about religion

That is why I said "those who have learnt all that God Teaches have their tomorrows always being better than their Yesterdays.

With respect to our living in this House we call earth, everything starts and ends with God.

suicidesheep:
Like I said everyone's yesterday is better than their today...

Not for those who have learnt all that God Teaches. Their tomorrows are always better than their Yesterdays.

Maynman:
Rubbish. No where did y’all mention africa, is it only africa that’s doing evil?

Better go and learn your history.

So, Nollywood is not African eh, post intermeddler?

Maynman:
Which past? During slavery? World war 1? World war 2? Holocaust? When?

1) You always lose focus, we are taking about Africa. World war, holocaust was not for us.

2) slavery was mostly a selling of prisoners and not a national thing as proven by the fact that you do not see any family crying about the loss of any of a certain family members through slavery.

So, you have no point here.

suicidesheep:
Same people that lived in 1990 or 2003 always wish they lived in previous years than theirs. It's already a proven fact that each generation wishes they were born in an earlier generation.

That's why I said "Their yesterdays are always better than their todays".

suicidesheep:
Infant mortality has reduced drastically,

Only for them to die before 35.

suicidesheep:
I agree the world is shitty now, but it has always been shitty. Again I'd say the only reason why u feel it's more shitty now it's just cause of your easy access to information

Nope! In the past, people had hopes and saw their hopes fulfilled. But, today, despair is their story and hopenoneness, their dream.

suicidesheep:
People aren't living more terrible lives than b4, it has always been the same.

The only problem is the Internet has been it possible for us to know each others problem

No! That is not True. People always say "I remember in 1990 or in 2003" or some period of time past, even here with internet. Their yesterdays are always better than their todays.

suicidesheep:
We are lucky the world is moving past superstitions beliefs like during the dark ages and biblical times

And the young, living the most terrible lives ever only to die even 4 times faster than their parents, in the most horrible and horrific ways.

What a luck you people have.

suicidesheep:
.. If you notice, everyone is getting wiser these days and knows all religions are scam.

Yet they are living the most horrible lives than ever, they are more wickeder, more afraid, frustrated angry people and even now they kill themselves more than ever before.

So if you think this is a wise living, I respect that it is your right to hold this opinion.

suicidesheep:
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Secondly all those our gods and idols they took are nothing more that artifacts to them, as said by someone earlier.

There's nothing spiritual about the world

Which is why I answered "things people take for granted".

LordReed:
2 liars and a man the god got so angry at he was denied entrance to the promised land. No wonder you're so perfect. LoLz.

As long as they lived a sweet and a good filled life, all you say is of none effect.

Das1mama:
Ok, does it mean we made a mistake to sell the deites and accepting the religion?

Yes and No.

55% Yes, because, our natural belief was already towards God, hence our blessings.

45% No, because, we accepted both the best of God centerdness (Christ Folowership) and the best/worstest of evil followership (Satanism and i-hate-Godism aka atheism, belief in the strength, intelligence and products of men (scientism).

oteneaaron:
Pray tell, what is this truth and how can it be obtained?

I said it is a great profit to learn how to obtain, Filter and discern TRUTH.

And I know you deal with liars everyday but in spite of them all you know when Truth is given you. Use it

peterincredible:
Bros I beg you go and read it pls before you comment this is a book written thousands of years before jesus walked through the surface of this earth, this is are text that describe the solar system years before even scientist even thought of describing it,

I have the works of Aristotle, Archimedes, Eratosthenes, Lucretius, all older than the Bible and they gave their own independent reports.

Note, The Bible did not say it is the oldest book in the world, even inside it, you would see that people kept books too.

peterincredible:
the Sumerian text even went further of describing how the planets weather condition of several planets in our solar system and constellation beyond where scientist cant even get to with this our current technology of our time,

And look at this statement, does this not sound exactly like what Hollywood would say?

Look at the oldies of early years, them Aristotle and co, they gave reports of things which they saw in their time, the same things which we see today, but herein comes the so called "summerians" talking about things which no reputable early scientists confirm and having an anti bible restatement of what the Bible, clearly tells you the object of attack, exactly like the movies do!

Come on, this is an obvious stadium sized sign post that screams Lies, Lies, Lies.

Maynman:
There’s a original text for it.

You say!

Maynman:
Are the “independent testimonial” not also hearsay?

Nope!

Maynman:
They are not called evidence because it was written down by murderers and rapist, a judge still have to rule over the “independent testimonies”

The Law of Evidence has determined what is evidence and I am an expert in Laws and Laws of Evidence.

Maynman:
There is a original copy of it, and it’s the oldest written text in history.

"They Say"! Hearsay Evidence.

Maynman:
Is there a original copy of the Bible?

What is called The Bible clearly shows that it is a compilation of various independent testimonies, that is what makes it very sweet admissible evidence.

Like reading the statements of witnesses and accuseds at police stations. The reader is allowed to read, draw his own inferences and come to a reasonable conclusion of his own accord.

No personal interest, no report given with litigation in mind, no Law of Evidence being violated.

oteneaaron:
A little research would do you a lot of good.

Expand your world view.

A great knowledge of how to obtain and discern Truth, would profit you greatly.

Das1mama:
...1, Christianity was brought to Africa by the Whites but have never seen in any Hollywood, Bollywood movies where they are casting out demons or performing miracles but in Nollywood if not all, you must see them conducting deliverance.

Because, Nollywood shows what it has seen to be true whilst the others do not want God Honoured.

Das1mama:
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2, The last but not the least, if the whites condemned our tradition and introduced Christianity and other religion, why were they buying all the deities with huge amounts of money.

P.O.W.E.R . They know many things we take for granted.