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SSIPON:
Provide me with the scriptural evidence for the trinity

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SSIPON:
The son of Okonkwo is not Okonkwo himself werey...

Olodo, where okonkwo was a carpenter and his son okonkwo was also a carpenter too, they are the same!

Which is why we say "like father- like son"!

HedwigesMaduro:
Which means there's no high court just for the fact that there's no low court? Still trying to get your logic.

This High court and supreme Court thing is a deceit, a fraud and Unlawful. It is just a means of cementing man's rule, unjust enrichment, waste of communal goods and ensuring people live under The Curse of God in Jeremiah 17:5

THE COURT CAN (MUST) DO NO WRONG, IS THE LAW.

THEREFORE, THE COURT OF FIRST INSTANCE, IS SUPPOSED TO GET IT PERFECTLY RIGHT.

IF AND WHEN THERE IS ANY AREA AS TO THE DOUBT OF THE RIGHTNESS OF A MATTER, THE PROPER PROCEDURE IS TO SEEK OPINIONS FROM OTHER JUDGES.

OR IN THE ALTERNATIVE APPLY THE LAW IN DEUTERONOMY 25:1

THE RIGHT AND GOOD MUST BE RAISED UP AND THE EVIL/WRONG MUST BE QUASHED.

HedwigesMaduro:
Which means all priests are high priests, right?

Yep! Based on The Law of Aaron and his sons. Exodus 28:1-4.

No high or low priest there. just "Ministers in the Priest's Office"!

LordReed:
..That disillusionment you felt with organised religion is almost inevitable to anyone who tries to take it seriously, ..

I never had this. When I was young I thought all churches were the same except for white garment church which disturbed my spirit, so I did not care which church I went.

I learnt many many things as I noticed many many things. How my neighbours seemed angry I came to their church (Catholic), why say they are Christians and yet they were wicked And when you challenge them that it is wicked and not good and that God says it is not good they got angrily berserk and even wickeder.

I thought it right to "do them back" but I noticed I suffered seriously when I revenged. I didn't know then that truly that "Do not revenge" statement that used to fly around was True!

So, I started studying the Bible for myself to see what else was True, which I have seen!

And, I long figured that the walk with God was very very personal. There is almost no collective walk with God. The oeople who I thought were good people, I saw that they secretly loved wickedness and took the opportunity to be wicked when it presented itself.
The people who were wicked also confirmed that they loved being wicked and that it is a mistake to give them opportunity to do you wickedness.

And I did not want to be any of these people, hence my admiration for people in the Bible, since the living people I see fell short.

And that is what has safely and interestingly and wonderfully and beautiful and gloriously brought me this far.

AND THE BEST PART I LOVE IS THAT I HAVE BEATEN ALL OF THOSE AROUND ME IN ALL THINGS.

So you can see now why I said, it is impossible for me to leave God, FOR IT IS HE WHO MADE ME WHO I AM NOW, EVEN WHEN IT WAS IMPOSSIBLE!

So, disillusionment was no where near me for I saw people became what they wanted to be, as Dmx said

"We each walk the paths we have chosen"

I CHOSE THE WAY OF THE LORD AND IT IS EXACTLY AS IS WRITTEN!

Kobojunkie:
I am not much interested in what others have said, but my personal evaluation of what I have read. The story in Mark lists Abiathar as the High Priest at the time of the incident told of by Jesus Christ whereas the one story in 1 Samue 21 instead only lists the name of a priest named Ahimelek

Is there "Low Priest"?

SSIPON:
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One of the well-known problems of the passage is that when one looks at the Old Testament passage that Jesus is citing (1 Sam. 21:1–6), it turns out that David did this not when Abiathar was the high priest, but, in fact, when Abiathar’s father Ahimelech was. In other words, this is one of those passages that have been pointed to in order to show that the Bible is not inerrant at all but contains mistakes..

See error finder making an error!

Is the son of Okonkwo not Okonkwo, or is the son of Abiola not Abiola?

LordReed:
LoLz! Also similar to my experience. Maybe you'll be the one to become an atheist. Bwahahahahahaha!

Unlike you and many other people, my Love for God grew up with me. Since my childhood in Methodist Sunday school, I loved Him, and my love for Him only increased, as I grew up!

And now, my love is too too too much for God is Too Too Unending Too Much!

O, IT IS NOT POSSIBLE THAT I WOULD HAVE FOUND PSALM 23 LIVING, (EDEN) THEN NA ME GO KON PACK MY BAG SAY I WAN TRAVEL COMOT, WHOOSAI!

E NO POSSIBLE!

I LIVE THERE FOREVER. NA MY HOUSE BE DAT!

SSIPON:
Keep going. You are matching closer to Atheism. Good job

Not even in the dreams your shadow may think to invent wiil I ever stop loving God!

That is an impossibility.

How does God had a thing for First! Therefore, Satan was the first to use evil Unlawfully" reasonably mean and Connects to "GOD IS NOT THE BEGINNING OF ALL THINGS"?

This is madness!

Maynman:
How can good be use unlawful?

Did you not say that the acid the prostitute uses to pour on your children is good?

Maynman:
Then the pros,titue is the evil one and not the acid.

When she uses it to pour on your children has she not used your "good acid" to do an unlawful thing of "Causing injury and grievous bodily harm to persons? (Unlawful)

No Road!

haekymbahd:
Saying Adam brought sin upon mankind is different from the first sin ever committed because you are impling mankind couldn't have committed a sin.

Interesting, you are on to something I already know.

I do not imply it, Adam did bring the Off-fence of Sin to mankind, but giving off-fences occurred even before the Sin. (Yes I Said it). It is also a part of good natural living with its own natural off-fence resolution.

Before, the Sin, (Lack of evil) offences was not a dangerous and evil thing, but with the presence of evil (presence of evil because of the knowledge of evil) the goodness of offences became tainted.

So now, when offences are given, men have to enquire if that offence was given in evil and with evil (malice/mala-fides) or done good minded ( bona-fided)

haekymbahd:
Wherever there is Law then sin exist. God gave Adam and Eve the Law of not eating the forbidden fruit.

I did say you are on to what I know! The Law, made the earth and everything in it, including man, so The Law was always there, even waiting for man to come meet Him.

haekymbahd:
Wasn't sin a time bomb waiting to be ticked. If Adam and eve could fall for Satan it means it was only a matter of time before they sin they were not immuned to sin.

2 Answers: Yes and No.

Yes, because Satan will keep trying to find a person who will let him in.

And "No", if Adam and those who did not give Satan any attention stood guard to warn every soul born, saying "you see that bastard called Satan, do not give him any attention at all. Don't listen to him, don't talk to him, don't let him talk to you, tell him to get out, when you see him"

AND THAT BOMB MAY NEVER BLOW UP!.

haekymbahd:
So what sin did Jesus take away?

If you have come this far, you ought to have figured it out!

haekymbahd:
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Why is child birth for women still painful didn't Jesus take that away too.

As I said earlier, ONLY FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO LIVE AND NOW, I ADD AND HAVE TRULY FOUND LIFE!

Else, women shall still continue to carry their Curses.

haekymbahd:
Why are humans still sinning if Jesus has taken away the sin?

AS I SAID, JESUS'S SALVATION IS FOR ONLY THOSE WHO DO NOT WANT TO DIE!

Maynman:
Who gave satan the evil he used? Did he create it himself? Or he stole it from god? Or your god gave it to him intentionally?

You put an evil light in everything, which is unlawful.

I have answered these questions that God made all things GOOD, BUT UNLAWFUL USE OF GOOD IS EVIL, (learn that one) exactly as a person appointed to collect money (law full) who now collects more or less than his due (unlawfull)

Maynman:
And you are also saying YOUR GOD IS NOT THE BEGINNING OF ALL THINGS.
Who was the first to use good? Angel Gabriel?
Just contradicting yourself lol

Take a Hammer and hit your head! When did I say "GOD IS NOT THE BEGINNING OF ALL THINGS"? (Show Proof)

Failure to show proof of my guilt here means you have started running mad, and I do not deal with mad people!

LordReed:
Ok but I don't know where you stand except that you are a Christian. What church do you attend?

None! But I went through Methodist, (Childhood), Methodist/Catholic, (secondary school), Redeemed (University), wife made me run through Catholic again. and by the accumulation of all I learnt, I observed God was leaving churches as Written, (which I did not know at the time, only that I have learnt to watch what is going on, so I knew) until it was unbearable to stay in Catholic, even wife too. Then I checked Redeemed, same thing. Then I completely stopped. And it was after that, that people started noticing that church was dry. And I was like, "una no feel am since? Na so una don die reach?"

So, there you have it. I don't go to any church nor associate with any group of people.

Psalm 1 is my Law of Association and ^ Bible, my Pastor!

ReacherSaidNoth:

What has happened to that idiot, shall happen to you even in triplicates!

LordReed:
Oh so he is a Chosen member. Interesting.

You already know he just picked up out of the lot, where he thinks I stand, exactly as I did). And you already know, I do not stand there.

haekymbahd:
so has he taken it away, what has changed since the death of Jesus?

of course He did!

Everything changed, ONLY FOR THOSE WHO DO NOT WANT TO DIE!

haekymbahd:
The bible said father shall not be put to death for the sin of their children and vice versa, How is that an eye for an eye when everyone will bear his or her cross seperately?

If everyone bears their own cross, is that not "An eye for an eye" in motion?

haekymbahd:
Adam brought sin or that was the first sin to be committed.

Is it not both? Does the first sin not bring sin?

Shall rain fall and rain not come?

haekymbahd:
Deuteronomy 24
16 The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers; only for his own sin shall anyone be put to death.

This has nothing to do with Christ's dying for us. This is just a prohibitory Law God gave knowing how wicked you people are that you people can kill a person's father just because the son has done an evil and vice versa.

haekymbahd:
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Ezekiel 18
32 For I have no pleasure in the death of him who dies, says the Lord God. Therefore turn (be converted) and live!

How can God be happy when a person dies? But The Law must run its course.

haekymbahd:
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1. Was Jesus put to death for his own sin since it was a plan from Jesus(God) himself to be put to death.

You already know Jesus had no sin, so you ask a stupid question.

haekymbahd:
2. According to Christianity Jesus (God, Father) was put to death for the sin of mankind (his children) for what reason, when God can Just forgive what do we need human sacrifice for.

Jesus is not God Father and you already know this.

God honours His Law at all times and will always apply it. Therefore, Everything goes through the process of Law and must do so, without deviation.

haekymbahd:
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3. If anyone dies only for his own sin, how did people get saved even without Jesus.

The Law!

haekymbahd:
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4. Since the death of Jesus what has changed. Women still experience pain at childbirth, humans are still sinning, humans are still dieing. Why didn't Jesus death take humans back to default setting (a world with no sin) when we were like zombies before eating fruit of knowledge...

Did these people go through The Law? No. They did what they like and even broke more Laws.

haekymbahd:
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5. Since Adam didn't ask for permission of Human before eating forbidden fruit. Why must everyone beleive that Jesus died to be saved if truly he wants to die for mankind.

Now, your madness has clearly come out! Is permission and believe the same thing or even connected?

Leave our Bible and Our Lord alone, go and live your life as you want it. No one is begging you or compelling you to take The Lord, Jesus.

Go your own way!

haekymbahd:
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The Law is Always an eye for an eye.
One man brought sin, One man will have to take it away.

Draslo:
Please dont quote me in your life again

And you are going to klll me if I do.

"I'm ready to meet him
Is why I'm living it right
Black hate white
White hate black
It's right back
To the same fight
They got us suspecting a war
But the real war
is to follow the law
of the lord!" Dmx

Maynman:
Yes, that’s your king function. Your god has a place in hell, some places in hell are cool as fu.c.k then lol

My King is God and God is my King! You forget, hell is not yours and you are just a potential inmate!

Maynman:
Who created satan with his evil thoughts? Did Satan also eat a evil fruit like Adam?

This is the only new thing all others have been treated.

I should not answer all your questions in one day, this is the last one for the day.

Following God's Judgements pattern, The Law and what the Bible said, Satan knew both good and evil and knew The Law.

God had a thing for First! Therefore, Satan was the first to use evil Unlawfully, therefore by God's Law of an Eye for an eye, God Cursed him and The Law Changed him to become the-evil aka D'evil aka Devil.

And therefore, Satan became one of those who work evil. Which is why he needed man to eat the fruit of evil to access man's headquarters (the soul) to run his evil suicide plans from there.

Am gone!

Maynman:
Yes there’s a special place for your god in hell.

When on Routine or Periodic or Special Facility Inspection Tour!

Maynman:
Since you know what good and bad is you have already judged it.. the scenario of the rape you painted is not a good thing through your judgement right? That’s why you want to do evil to that rapist? Haven’t you judged ?
Then the pros,titue is the evil one and not the acid.
Why will I give out a pin to a thief and claim knowledge is evil? Isn’t that folly to give your pin to a thief in the first place?
You said you god is a god of good and bad and he created it, did he create evil thoughts and desires too?

I have answered all these!

Maynman:
Hell is conducive and fitting for a king to visit after all.

Every Territory in A king's domain is always altered to receive The King's Visitation.

Maynman:
But the king did not only visit the prison, he also became a prisoner for days.

Visitation can last for any number of days as the king may determine. He even has the right to operate His office from there if He so chooses.

That is His Unquestionable Right!

See, I said "JUDGE of goodness and evil" not "cannot know what goodness and evIl".

Maynman:
So how then did you know that an acid is evil? Lol

The same way you know an angry prostitute should not come near your children with it.

Maynman:
So someone else created evil thoughts and desires?

Doesn't need to create it, the pros.titute with acid answers you.

Maynman:
How is giving a thief my password makes knowledge evil?
Can ignorance also be good?

That's why I said give out your ATM pin to a thief,then based on what happens, try answering the question

CAPSLOCKED:
WHAT A MISERABLE MØRON. MY CONDOLENCES TO ALL THOSE THAT HAVE TO BARE WITH YOU ON A DAILY.

Which would have been far better than the world having people like you rapist, who rape their own mothers, robbers, killers, Liars, perverts, etc living. Now, you evil beasts have destroyed the world and there is no good tomorrow for you people. Sorry, world, you should have extinct his kind!

Maynman:
But earlier you said we cannot know what goodness and evil is, but you just describe the scenarios of evil with the rape and acid, man lol

I did not! Show proof.

Maynman:
Your analogy is flawed, the function of an acid is known,..

Invalid Counter! Outside issue. No talk of function of acid.

Maynman:
Adam sin was inside him then he ate a fruit lol bla bla bla..

Now you are the one who said this, even the Bible did not say so.

Maynman:
if your god created evil thoughts and desire and he is all knowing.. then he gave satan those evil thoughts to start with?

Again, it is you who says this. Not I nor the Bible!

Maynman:
Could your god have created just good thoughts?

You surely heard all things were good, didn't you.

Maynman:
And that fruit you are referring as evil was LITERALLY called tree of knowledge,or is knowledge an evil thing?

Go and give a thief the knowledge of your ATM password, then answer the question.

Maynman:
Then how do you know something is good or bad?

The rape example I gave you already proves you have a natural ability to know good and evil, thanks and no thanks to Adam.

Maynman:
The angry woman that brought the acid is the one at fault, I’m asking what’s in the acid that makes it evil on his own?

It is you who said "on its own". All I presented was the fact that an acid which is good in the hands of battery makers, can become evil in the hand of an angry prost.tute.

Maynman:
Did he create evil thoughts and desires too?

This is where you learn to ask the question why did Satan want Adam to eat the fruit?

When you eat, you put something inside you.

Being Adam evil was outside you before, until you ate it. Now, evil is inside.

Now you have an idea why you said "evil thoughts"

Which means "THERE IS ALSO GOOD THOUGHTS TOO"

jesusjnr2020:
Don't worry, since the demons speaking through you are too stubborn for silence to cure, I would soon treat them in a language they'd understand.

Did you not hear, "The Lord will not justify the wicked?" You are wasting your time!

Maynman:
There’s only one type of just and unjust, everything else are your forms that participate in it.

INVALID: You are not the Judge of Goodness and Evilness.

Maynman:
Your analog of battery is so flawed. How’s acid evil on his own?

If your angry slaymama brought acid near your children to discharge it on them, surely, you would shout "which kain evil thing you bring come my house?"

CAPSLOCKED:
THIS IS A REALLY IDĮOTIC EXAMPLE THAT I WOULDN'T APPRECIATE EVEN IF YOU HAD REPLACED CAPSLOCKED WITH YOURSELF.
FOR SOMEONE THAT SHAMELESSLY FLAUNT THE BANNER OF THE LORD'S CHOSEN CHURCH I CAN CONCRETELY CONCLUDE THAT THE LORD OF MADNESS TRUTHFULLY CHOSE YOU TO CONTINUOUSLY SPEW RUBBISH LIKE THIS FOR THE REST OF YOUR WORTHLESS LIFE.

It is someone from your group of company who rape and murder and steal and your name just happened to jump into my head.

So, I apologize for not putting up a disclaimer, stating This is work of debate is merely illiusionary. Any use of the names of actual persons liiving, is purely coincidental and incidental”

Maynman:
Yea, I know that it is evil and it was due to that judgment that I acted, right?

So you are judging people and cursing them, I thought it was your god job to do the judgement?

Now you learn that there are different types of judgements eg preliminary judgements, interim judgements, temporary judgements, Automatic Judgements and Final Judgements.

And God has given us power to give judgement in many case.

Maynman:
Isn’t it common sense for evil things to be done by evil people?

Nope!
God has set The Law to handle all these things

Maynman:
If you are perfect you are good, If you are righteous you are good, means same thing.

You are not The Judge! A perfect and righteous man does those things which are good, but The Judge has already fore-pronounced that he is not good. Noah, Job and Daniel beat all men, yet, The Judge did not judge them good!

Maynman:
If he controls all thing, then why do you refer to him only as the God of good? He is both God of good and evil.

HE IS GOD OF ALL!

AND HE MADE ALL THINGS GOOD! INCLUDING EVIL! YES, I SAID IT.

EVIL IS GOOD IN HIS HANDS AND FOR HIS USE ONLY, LIKE ACID TO BATTERY MAKERS BUT EVIL, IS EVIL TO UNAUTHORISED PERSONS AND SHALL BURN THEM, EXACTLY AS ACID BURNS UNAUTHORISED HANDLERS.