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Naijanascam:
Returning of Jesus is the end of everything...... so there will be no one to cover,carry and spread the news.......

Correct man!

Na shock people go freeze dey!

Gospelpreacher1:
Lalasticlal

Una go shock well well say space ship no come when judgement day land for on-top una head

BigRocky:
No word is a mere words sir

Now you recognise that there isn't a Word without a Worder (He Who gives the word) else it would be mere!

BigRocky:
Heritage and value set the stardard of moral laws.and moral laws are universal laws anyone without religious knowledge can obey.

The word heritage and value are words men made up, so how then can they being mere words make anything?

Or I guess, you are just joking!

BigRocky:
Science is a practice that solve mystery through observation and experiment.

You are still saying "What science does?" AND NOT WHAT IS SCIENCE?

BigRocky:
Moral laws are universal rules every one should apply to.like is just common sense,even countries that are least religious have moral laws.

You were not asked "what are moral laws?" But

"EXPLAIN WHY we have moral laws in society?"

BigRocky:
Ok boss
Heritage and value are also not religious though.

Pardon me if am wrong

Heritage has to do with inheritance and value has to do with goodness and both are covered by the Bible!

Neither of these answers question 2 "who or what sets the standard for those laws"

BigRocky:
Science has different definitions from different sources.
I don't how you want me to define it.

Science only has one meaning which is-
"TO KNOW"

Ammishaddai:
So who set the standards for those laws ...is it science, evolution or you don't know?

Am lawyer, I Know Who.

Would love to see his response most especially as most people, even my lawyers do not know that the word "Law" is Danish MEANING "THAT WHICH IS SET! "

So it's your opponent who needs to break his head on the WaLL sorry LLaw sorry Law!

peterincredible:
...In summary I will say science can't be separated from spirituality, religion tried to separate it in other to controll the masses

The Bible did not try to separate it, it placed it in its proper place. But it is because evil people relied on science and then attempted discarding spirituality, hence the severance became necessary.

Ammishaddai:
Really... ? Okay, can science explain why we have moral laws in society? If yes, who or what sets the standard for those laws ?

hehehe standing by.

Why moral laws instead of evil laws?

Especially The Who, Who Set it!

litigator:
So you support we keep all the laws in Deut and Exodus?

Including stoning adulterous women to dealt hand the eye for eye doctrine?

1) The Law is already eye for an eye and even the unlawful man made laws could not escape it.

2) You can already see the destruction and suffering and pain going on all over the world simply because men think that they are wiser than God.

So, keep or do not keep it, if men are wise, it is for them alone and if they are stupid, it is still them alone who will carry it.

AS LONG AS I AM HAVING A SWEET LIFE, THE WORLD CAN BURN!

OkCornel:
Do you tithe as the law specifies it should be done?

Deuteronomy 14 v 22-29.

Mind you, the Law never requested for tithes monetarily.

I am the Lawyer, I do know what The Law says and how I tithe, IS REALLY NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS!

AntiChristian:
So the Jacob that gave birth to Joseph is the same Jacob of Isaac?

And was how was Joseph Jesus's father by blood and genealogy again?

So many lies from you o!

These Muslims are mad O, did the line bend to Laban or the bastard Ishmael or even Esau? Eh

It's like this ram-a- dam fasting is making Muslims madder!

jmoore:
Emmanuel: God with us.

God lives in me. So I eat my tithe anywhere.

You can keep searching for the gullible to deceive.

Your business, not mine and The Great Judge will judge all things when His Court Sits! I'll be content with watching the proceedings.

omoiyamayor:
.. I am not asking you to renounce your faith, I’m just trying to help you see life beyond religion,

Ow sowrry you wasted your time! The Only thing I cared for in this life was to have a very very sweet living as God hath promised.

I eat what I like and not what I see, I go wherever I want to, I work when I want to and Life is LG (Life is Good). . AND GOD IS TOOOOO SWEEEEET!

So, no thing else matters!

omoiyamayor:
Ok why don’t you ask god for everything you need and sit home and see how far you can go, God curse lol, you are deluded,...

See lamentation and Complaints! I am not stupid as you.

THE LORD HAS DEALT WONDEROUSLY TO ME AND GIVEN ME ALL THAT I WANTED AND EVER WANTED. LIFE AND LIVING HAS BEEN VERY SWEET. AND EVEN AS YOU ALL ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT HOW TERRIBLE THE COUNTRY IS, THE LORD PROSPERETH MY WORK AND INCREASETH ME WEEKLY AND MONTHLY. EXACTLY AS WRITTEN.

AND I GO TO WORK WHEN I LIKE AND COME BACK HOME WHEN I LIKE, EXACTLY AS WRITTEN.

SO, THE DIFFERENCE IS CLEAR BETWEEN US EXACTLY AS WRITTEN.
"Shouts of joy and victory resound in the tents of the righteous". Psalm 118;15

SO WHILE YOU SING SONGS OF LAMENTATIONS I SING SONGS OF THANKS AND PRAISES.

SO HATE ON, IT WOULD NOT CHANGE YOUR MISERABLE LIFE NOR MY ENJOYMENT LIFE!

jmoore:
How you ignored 'eat your tithe', is very obvious.

I did not ignore it nor did I oppose it, I SIMPLY DREW YOUR ATTENTION TO THE CONDITION ATTACHED TO IT.

So, do not make it seem that The Law there was direct AND WITHOUT A SPECIFIED CONDITION THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE CONPLIED WITH.

jmoore:
What is presence of the Lord? So God is not in your house?
Baby Christians still believe God only live in temples. You didn't learn any significant thing when the curtain tore during Christ crucifixion!

Say what you will but The Law did say "AT THE PLACE He will choose as a dwelling for his Name,"

AND NOT IN THE PLACE JMOORE OR OSARO OR IDARA CHOOSE FOR THEMSELVES!

omoiyamayor:
exactly my point, you are quoting life for me from bible, how sure are you I am a Christian, what if I’m a Buddhist? ....

Your complaints abouts horrible living saying "the only gift human is breath the rest you have to earn it, educate, good standard of living,materials, safety, even your daily bread and so on" is PROOF OF GODS CURSE ON STUPID PEOPLE, WHICH YOU CONFIRM BY YOUR COMPLAINT, IS IN EFFECT!

So, it does not matter what divinity you practice whether Hari Krishna or olumba olumba, YOU ARE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF LIFE.

jmoore:
Every person should eat his/her own tithe.

Deuteronomy 14 verse 23 "Eat the tithe of your grain, new wine and olive oil, and the firstborn of your herds and flocks in the presence of the LORD your God at the place he will choose as a dwelling for his Name, so that you may learn to revere the LORD your God always."

First, the guy is avoiding compliance with The Law hence my answer.

Secondly The Bolde shows you The Condition Precedent that MUST ALSO BE FULFILLED in complying with this Law of Eating.

And in Culpability/Liability, failure to comply with a condition precedent amounts to a Disobedience of The Law!

MaxInDHouse:
Keep your Jesus as your attitude has proved how close you are to him!

Did I give you a thing? And your attitude suggest that many things are wrong with you and on you!

Unfortunately for you, it shall not be better

litigator:
Boss! The author supported his position with Bible verses.

And I am impressed. If you want to join issues with him, kindly support your position with Bible passages.

I am just an Omnist trying to know more about the Bible. Believe me, I have learnt a lot since the day I discovered Isaiah 45 and Ecclesiastics 12.

I simply understood the position that I need not be holy to go to church but I should go to church in other to become a better person. This is simply because “ …faith comes by hearing and by hearing the word of God”.

Now kindly build our faith by supporting your position with Bible positions as did the Original author.

Shalom

"Whoso keepeth THE LAW is a wise son: Proverbs 28:7

Psalm 119:1

Psalm 119:4

Psalm 119:9

Psalm 119:105.

Just to mention a few.

TAYO124:
Truly if you stand with Jesus, on what grounds did you conve
O niently Call a person who has not blasphemed God “a fool”?

You said "has not blasphemed", now we see that you do not even know what blasphemy is, yet you raised yourself up to judge.

To my grounds, see them below

Ground 1: Law- Titus 1:10/11

Ground 2: Law- Isaiah 54 "and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn."

Ground 3: Law, Ecclesiastics 3

Broveens42:
confusion at it's peak. I like the place I have fixed you

Translation! Make I run as I see say I no know anything!

There was no thing valid for you to say after my answer

TAYO124:
Listen to yourself, So archaic! If you have a problem with Jesus clearly state it. Your kind of argument will be easily thrashed in a debate with brilliant theologians rather than here on nairaland.

See Confusion! I stand with The Lord, Jesus Christ and the other bastards are trying to say He did not Do, what He Preached, which I answered and showed him and then the bastard immediately started to abuse me.

So you see, you even came to judge a matter you did not even understand. That is the definition of an evil judge!

AND NOW YOU HAVE CONFESSED THAT YOU ARE ACTUALLY AN ANTI-GOD (ATHEIST) JUDGE! AND THEREFORE NEVER BALANCED!

TRUTH ALWAYS COMES OUT!

omoiyamayor:
truly religion has contributed to the backwardness of this planet, the only gift human is breath, the rest you have to earn it, educate, good standard of living,materials, safety, even your daily bread and so on, when you understand that you have to earn your living and nothing goes for nothing this continent will move on, while Africans are waiting for rapture the west are waiting for death, this makes innovations not to stop, rapture said end of world, death said end of lifetime. See the difference.

CHANGE OF POST! Meaning, you have nothing valid to say!

NOW YOU HAVE MOVED TO START TALKING ABOUT GOD'S CURSE ON STUPID AND FOOLISH PEOPLE, WHO NEVER LISTEN TO HIM!

ALL YOU HAVE DESCRIBED IS WRAPPED UP IN THE WORD

"Cursed is the one who trusts in man, who depends on flesh for his strength and whose heart turns away from the LORD. He will be like a bush in the wastelands; he will not see prosperity when it comes. He will dwell in the parched places of the desert, in a salt land where no one lives." Jeremiah 17:5

litigator:
What about Acts 15 as it concerned the Gentiles? Where the Gentiles brought under the law in Acts 15?

The Law is not unreasonable, it is always people who are fraudulent and always bending The Law in the direction they wish to manipulate it to for their selfish purposes.

Look at the The Beginning of The Law, you would see the provision for the entry of Strangers (gentiles) AND HOW THEY SHALL BE PROCESSED to become as God's Chosen people.

Thus, the disciples were very much aware of the Almost impossibility of applying The Laws on the gentiles FOR PEOPLE ARE FIRST SET IN THE WAY THAT' THEY ARE NATURALLY ACCUSTOMED TO.

EVEN THE ISRAELITES FIRST FAILED IN KEEPING THE LAW WHEN IT WAS FIRST GIVEN TO THEM. THOUGH, THEY STILL NEVER KEPT IT EVEN WHEN THEY HAD BECOME ACCUSTOMED TO IT.

So, if the Israelites themselves failed in keeping The Law when they first had it, is it now the Stranger (gentiles) who would do so?

It takes practice and time to get accustomed with keeping The Law for it would be very very difficult at the first!

And every reasonable person knows and understands this, which is why we see the sound Judgement in Acts 15!

omoiyamayor:
so if everything belongs to him, all your income should go to the church, shouldn’t be 10% instead.

Then that tells you EVERYTHING WE HAVE IS A GIFT!

AND THAT THE THE GIFTOR HAS BEEN GOOD TO US IN NOT CLAIMING AND TAKING EVERYTHING TO HIMSELF.

BUT RATHER THAT IN EXERCISE OF HIS RIGHTS OF OWNERSHIP, HE HAS HEREBY APPORTIONED A SMALL PART OF YOUR OWN GIFT, TO BE GIVEN TO HE WHO HAS NO GIFT!

AND YOU ARE GREATLY EVIL IF YOU CAN NOT SEE THAT THIS IS THE DEFINITION OF GOODNESS.

Broveens42:
No! if I want to go that lane with you ( ie. ascertain how sensible you are), I would simply ask you to show me where it was written; woe to him whom the son of man would be betrayed,for it were better he wasn't born"...

But I just want to stick to your inability to decipher clear contradictions...

And I would have answered what was not demanded, as you stick to your lack of knowing saying "First, CHANGE OF POST. YOU ARE THE STUDENT ON TRIAL NOT I.

Secondly, it is never written, if you walk carelessly, you are gonna crash and kill or main somebody or yourself or both,". Ordinary Simple Common Sense would have told you that any person who does this, IS A FOOL!

TAYO124:
Neither mindhacker9009 nor abusive dtruthspeaker have moral authority to discuss the topic as you both are violators of God’s law as deductible from your words.

Wrong Judgement Against me! It is The Law that every tongue that unlawfully and unfoundedly raised up against The Lord, MUST BE CONDEMNED. Titus 1:10/11. And this was what made God angry with Job's friends.

So, your Judgement is Invalid!

GardenOfGod:
Quote the scriptures that mention that Christ or the Apostles or the early Christians paid or received tithes.... Simple and we are done discussions....

Don't bring illogical issues please.

The scripture shows that the disciples respected and kept The Commandments. Luke 24:56 and neither do we see any of them break The Commandment and we see Peter even staying within The Commandment of the eating of unclean meat in Acts 10:11-16.

That should show you that "God's Words (The Commandments) NEVER CHANGED AND THE DISCIPLES KEPT THEM.

Thus, show if you can if or whether you see the disciples BREAK EVEN ONE OF THE COMMANDMENTS!