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Ever8090:
as I said earlier, you have no little knowledge about the word of God..you have no case in the first place, I asked a question that requires a simple yes or no to put this at test but you kept beating about the bush..

(1) Do you mean there is no one who has the knowledge of God and strives to obey his command but is struggling in life?

(2) do you mean there is no atheist, murderer, criminal, adultrer etc who are living comfortable?

[b]Provide a simple yes or no to the following questions[/b]and stop those plenty commentary

Firstly, you have no right to circumscribe how I am to respond to a question. I have the right to destroy a question in any way that I deem fit, so long as my answer reasonably disposes the question EXACTLY AS YOU EXERCISED YOUR OWN RIGHT TO FREELY ASK YOUR QUESTION AS YOU FREELY DETERMINED FIT.

So, if you exercised your right to freely ask a question, I also EQUALLY have a right to freely answer it.

And there is absolutely nothing you can do about it, for we both have equal rights.

And thus, it is because you are unable to present a valid and reasonable counter, is what makes you speak ill of me.

So, no road! After all, if it is well with you, I am not going to be a beneficiary of it and neither am I a sufferer in your discomfort.

"The only good remaining about good advice is to pass it on, for I have finished exhausting it on my self"

Elianawalker:
If God interferes then he abuses free will... God doesn't abuse or take back a gift...

Are you insane?

What freewill is abused when a person who has fallen into a pit is given rope to draw him up and out? Or the person who hungers, is given food? Or a homeless, given house.

The way you people are so evil eh, calling a good thing evil, O Lord it is Truly Time.

Elianawalker:
I don't think God even interfers...


Every man carves a destiny for himself

If God does not interfere, do we not know the destination of the son of a mechanic living in "I slap you, you slap me house"? Or the daughter of a aunty living under the bridge?

A tree planted in the desert must die of thirst unless an interferance occurs, exactly as Joseph would have been murdered by his brothers or murdered by Potiphar and his wife or would have died in prison if not for God's Interferance.

Oh Lord, is it not time that all these evils be cast forever into the Fire?

Kobojunkie:
God gave the centurion a command to act on. And in obedience, the centurion stepped up to Jesus Christ to ask Jesus Christ for help in the manner that he did.

Once again, you can not prove what you present, for no where is it seen that God gave a command to the centurion meanwhile he was already exercising faith before his prayers were answered.

oohrhiifx:
Brother, you have done your best.

Thing is, you cannot for anyone to believe the evidence he does not want to believe.

We have shown him our evidence and how we believe all these things are created by God.

Let him prove how those evidences around him are invalid and show us how they do not link to God but to something else.

The burden of proof is on him. Not us.

He should prove his point.

O my brother, I thank you for your words, it was very pleasant to my soul and surely, God took note of it and will definitely please you too and I submit to your counsel!

Workch:
I am bent on you providing an evidence that I can test 100times that God exist and it gives me repeated statistically significant 95% accuracy) result. I will change my mind if I see one

And 31 Times I gave you Everyday Seeable evidence with 1000 times Verifiability and 100% Accuracy, that in this world, "a house eg this world, does not build itself and a thing does not create itself eg mannequin, yet you have refused to drink sniper!

Goodplace:
Please spiritual inclined people of the faith, is it right to give your first fruit offering to another church other than your church?

The Law is "in the place I have put my Name".

Any other place is a nullity. Even your church might be a nullity unless it satisfies the requirement of Law!

Workch:
I don't mean that God don't exist, I man that "there's no evidence" that God exist. ...

"I don't mean that the Corrolla does not exist, I mean that there is no evidence of the Corrolla"

The madness of anti-God people eh,

Olayoo:
If you are trying to confuse me, well, it worked. So back to the question. Are u atheist, theist or agnostic

If you are not able to read between the lines, you are on your own.

Dude397:
Suit yourself sir

I am well suited, thank you.

In your mind you thought Epicurus's stupid questions could not be answered.

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Ever8090:
thanks for your contribution but I don't think you are been sincere or if you even understand the word of God

The mere fact that you are unable to counter proves my case.

We all know that you said this because I have just shown you that your greatly desired riches which you pray and work for is a very bad thing and a Trap (Snare) and you can not belleve it.

And God does not answer prayers requesting for bad things.

So run, go pray for riches from satanist aka atheists and co, as I said in the beginning that you were going to do.

Olayoo:
Are you a theist or atheist. Or agnostic.

if I mark my own answer script, then I run the risk that my score may not be true. So you judge me Truly but let your judgement be True, Law Full and Fair.

Workch:
God doesn't exist is not a believe.
God exist is a believe without evidence, we don't just believe you without evidence.

Like I said, you are stuck in the stone age. Grow up and stop seeking help from an imaginary celestial dictator

See Desperation!

Tells you something!

Ever8090:
Ok..it seems you are not getting my question well so let me marrow it thus.....

(1) are there no righteous person (s) struggling with life difficulties?

I bet you mean struggling to eat, finding a wife and work, troubles everywhere, horrible marriages, life full of sorrows and complaints.

if these, then NO, THEY DO NOT STRUGGLE.

The steps of the righteous are very guarded and strictly circumscribed by The Lord and they know it.

Ever8090:
(2) are there no sinners who are enjoying life to the fullest?

There is not one!

They live in one of the many many traps of Curses God laid. That is what you see happened to Solomon.

They eat but are never filled, they have many women but no wife, they have everything yet they want, they have many a guards, yet are they afraid, they have houses and estates yet they lack a home, they have the best beds yet they sleep not, they have many a people but no friend, they wish to die but they don't want death!

vinceyinnovation:
I declare open....

Workch..................vs ................Dtruthspeaker

Readers it may be a long ride but be rest assured..... you'll never be bored

i have beaten him Dtruthspeaker 31- Workch 0 on this topic, WITH HIM FALLING SILENT, NEVER BEING ABLE TO COUNTER!

And as you can see, he is wary of going against me! of which I am bored of him, for he is an unusable failure!

Let another worthy opponent try.

It is impossible for people to believe in a thing which does not exist. Exactly like the people in 1200 can never believe in planes or cars.

Workch:
I have problem with fundamentalists and religious people who try to undermine you because you don't share their religious opinions.

Yet you are here to overmine them!

Ever8090:
I did like you to specifically focus on the particular passage that seems to disagree with your assertion that hard times and suffering is only for the unrighteous while the righteous live in affluence...."good things happen to bad people as if they were good and bad things to good people as if they were bad"..be specific to this passage thanks..

The only way I can prove it to you is to show you real people whom you could have independently interviewed to see if you have ever seen anyone who has had their kind of lives in proof of "Mark the perfect man, and behold the upright: for the end of that man is peace; For God giveth to a man that is good in his sight wisdom, and knowledge, and joy: but to the sinner he giveth travail, (Troubles) to gather and to heap up, that he may give to him that is good before God.

And the wealth of the sinner is laid up for the just.

Dude397:
You are the person deviating from the question with your offpoint submissions. It's either God doesn't exist or he's powerless and not the omniscient like he claims.

Certainly, you are not sane.

From why is God Silent to Bad things happen to good people to God does not exist/powerless You are certainly not within normal human reasonablility boundaries.

Ever8090:
can you confidently tell me that, those who are living better are those who have learnt what God teaches and those going trough troubles are those without the knowledge of God?

Yes, I can confidently tell you so and i would have shown you verifiable examples in my area.

It is Written "the way of transgressors IS VERY HARD". (I bet your church never taught you this)

"The righteous eateth to the satisfying of his soul: BUT THE BELLY OF THE WICKED SHALL WANT.

These are The Laws which all men fall into exactly as men do not live in water like fishes because The Law has Made it So.

Ever8090:
Do you remember the passage of the Bible that says " good things happen to bad people as if they are good and bad things happen to good people as if they are bad?

Yes, it said and these things are seen AND THERE ARE THE LAWS MAKING THESE THINGS HAPPEN eg. "The Sun falls on both the good and the evil" / "Do good to them who hate you, that ye may be the children of your Father".

But after these Laws we have other Laws, "the young lions do lack and suffer hunger: but they that seek The Lord shall not want any good thing"./ "The face of The Lord is against them that do evil"/"though a sinner do evil an hundred times and his days be prolonged IT SHALL BE WELL WITH THEM THAT FEAR GOD.

BUT IT SHALL NOT BE WELL WITH THE WICKED,".

"Blessed are the UNDEFILED IN THE WAY, WHO WALK IN THE LAW OF THE LORD...

WHEREWITHAL SHALL A YOUNG MAN CLEANSE HIS WAY? BY TAKING HEED THERETO ACCORDING TO THY WORD" Psalm 119:1 and 9.

Uchesis:
Oga ade, your soul is indestructible

My pikin, na so caterpillar bin talk before grinder finish am.

elantraceey:
He won't have confessed if the lady did not call him out. Well, it's never too late. May God forgive us all.

The lady does not need to blow him out, but God Will. It is a Law and every person who walks in the way of righteousness and morality knows it.

So it is not because of the woman who like all women save a scanty too few, normally live in shame but know that men run away from it and hate it, because men are glorious but women are shame filled!

Nobody555:
But the 3 Gods are distinct persons right? How would you believe that three distinct persons are one person if not brainwashing?

Just as saying the concept of Family, consisting of husband, wife and children is brainwashing! I understand. I depart.

Arkmanbuddy:
In as much as it's good that he's apologized to his wife and has suspended himself from the ministry for now to allow for proper brokenness of spirit, I still believe he shouldn't have come out publicly to apologize. This will only result in the mockery of the faith.

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I believe many might applaud this and think this would make others who have fallen to also be bold enough to come out, but I still think confessing to few people of God and asking for their prayers would have been enough, not this public announcement.

My take though.

No, it was the right move. He is a public personality of morality and knowing God his private secret immorality will be broadcasted by CNN, FOX NEWS, BBC, CHANNELS, TVC, LINDA IKEJI, NAIRALAND ETC.

So, like the Japanese samurais, his last act of upholding morality, is to show to the world that he too failed on the moral standard and that he has been brought down by it.

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Dude397:
I don't think you are okay!

You prove you are not okay for every reasonable person knows not to deviate from the issue.

Ever8090:
get behind me Satan, I rebuke you in the name of Jesus Christ...

I am not doing anything evil for Satan hides in you but you do not know it.

All I am trying to say it is that, if you do not learn what God Teaches, you would not get to where you desire to be, exactly as the people older than you who never learnt what God Teaches.

After that, they all became bitter haters of God, speaking blasphemies.

It is Written "I lay before you life and blessings, Death and Curses"

CHOOSE THAT WHICH YOU PREFER!

Nobody555:
Lol Jesus and Jehovah are one in purpose not one as God.
Trinity is a false doctrine my bro!...

You said "one in purpose" thus you have supported the idea of Trinity, so case closed.

Ever8090:
I really appreciate your comment sir, it really sank into my heart in a way I could only imagine..thanks bro...I am doing my best and I will never give up, I will keep pushing and hoping for God's intervention at the right time...

You are still going to give up.

After that you shall become anti-God!

"The poor never learn".

Ever8090:
My life is in a mess, I feel like God himself have abandon me..I don't know what else to do, I have work hard all my life, I have prayed all kind of prayer yet, my life is nothing to be proud of.

At this point, it's in such a mess that I feel even God is against me.!..

The people perish for they never know!