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Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by Steep(m): 8:31pm On Jan 24, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


People who have the same line of thought will be trained through studying God's word {Isaiah 2:2-3} through their diligent study of God's word they will have the same line of thought {1Corinthians 1:10; Ephesians 4:3; Philippians 2:2} and what will be the result after they've been trained to have the same line of thought?
They will settle anything causing racial disputes among them, divert all their resources into the production of food and information materials, they will stop thinking about politics leading people into military services and vow never to raise weapons against anyone! Isaiah 2:4
The NWT has helped the JWs to fulfill all these while you can't talk about any group of TRINITARIANS that have vowed never to kill their neighbours even when Jesus ordered his followers love and pray for their enemies! Matthew 5:43-48
So what exactly has this your TRINITY achieve anywhere apart from lips services? Matthew 15:8 undecided
oga simple question you are convulsing
Where was it written that true believers will be in one organization?

Why run when you are asked to provide evidence from the bible about your beliefs?
Simply because jehovah witness organization is a fraud set up by taze Russell.

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Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:40pm On Jan 24, 2022
Steep:

oga simple question you are convulsing
Where was it written that true believers will be in one organization?

Why run when you are asked to provide evidence from the bible about your beliefs?
Simply because jehovah witness organization is a fraud set up by taze Russell.

Why are you agitated due to simple discussion?
Well if it's just the quotations you want please read:

Now I urge you, brothers, through the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you should all speak in agreement and that there should be no divisions among you, but that you may be completely united in the same mind and in the same line of thought. 1 Corinthians 1:10

earnestly endeavoring to maintain the oneness of the spirit in the uniting bond of peace. Ephesians 4:3

make my joy full by being of the same mind and having the same love, being completely united, having the one thought in mind. Philippians 2:2


I'm not forcing this on you but that's what we believe and it's working out fine WORKS in our midst, that's why we have a global organization where we treat one another like brothers and sisters! Matthew 12:46-50 smiley
Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by Steep(m): 8:47pm On Jan 24, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


Why are you agitated due to simple discussion?
Well if it's just the quotations you want please read:

Now I urge you, brothers, through the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you should all speak in agreement and that there should be no divisions among you, but that you may be completely united in the same mind and in the same line of thought. 1 Corinthians 1:10

earnestly endeavoring to maintain the oneness of the spirit in the uniting bond of peace. Ephesians 4:3

make my joy full by being of the same mind and having the same love, being completely united, having the one thought in mind. Philippians 2:2


I'm not forcing this on you but that's what we believe and it's working out fine WORKS in our midst, that's why we have a global organization where we treat one another like brothers and sisters! Matthew 12:46-50 smiley

Hahahaha, A minute ago you, said show me the word Trinity in the bible,
I asked you show me new world translation in the bible, you couldn't
Now, I didn't even ask you to show me the word jehovah organization organisation's o?
I only ask you simple question base on what you said that where was it written in the bible that true believers will be under one organization?

You are blabbing! You are obviously telling lies for your religion, showing you are a child of the devil cause he is the father of lies, all his children are liars!

John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

You just exposed yourself this evening
Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:50pm On Jan 24, 2022
Steep:

Hahahaha, A minute ago you, said show me the word Trinity in the bible,
I asked you show me new world translation in the bible, you couldn't
Now, I didn't even ask you to show me the word jehovah organization organisation's o?
I only ask you simple question base on what you said that where was it written in the bible that true believers will be under one organization?
You are blabbing! You are obviously telling lies for your religion, showing you are a child of the devil cause he is the father of lies, all his children are liars!
John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
You just exposed yourself this evening

I can understand.
Thanks for sharing your time with me, God bless you and may you have PEACE! smiley
Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by Steep(m): 8:54pm On Jan 24, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


I can understand.
Thanks for sharing your time with me, God bless you and may you have PEACE! smiley

I am already blessed with peace, joy and righteousness of the holy ghost.
Your fake God has no blessing or peace to offer

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Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:03pm On Jan 24, 2022
Steep:

I am already blessed with peace, joy and righteousness of the holy ghost.
Your fake God has no blessing or peace to offer
OK do enjoy the rest of the day! smiley
Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by Nobody555(f): 10:56pm On Jan 24, 2022
Lol God only breathe the breath of life (spirit) into Adam lifeless body and he become a living being. All other human inherit life from Adam. God didn't give everyone any specific spirit but the spirit is common to all.

sonmvayina:


Uma even they read una post before una press submit? Does this even make any sense to you?

Be truthful.

Man is a composite entity made up of dust from the earth and God's breath (spirit) in other words Weare God's spirit dwelling within a vessel made from the DUST of the earth. We are God spirit having a human experience. At death the spirit will return to God Then we bury the body for it to return to dust. There is nothing stopping God from sending the spirt again if it has not completed its mission on earth. It was reported by one of the prophet of saying "Before you where formed in your mother's womb, I knew you"..
Reincarnation is supported by gods word.


Enough of all this Jesus bullshit

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Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by Dtruthspeaker: 10:57pm On Jan 24, 2022
Nobody555:
Do you know that when Jesus the King comes back, he will be kind of dethroned? Lol. I mean after completing his mission on earth he will later hand over everything back to God the Father and God will be supreme over all including Jesus cos he will subjected to Him.

Christ did say "all power hath been given to Him" and that He was sent by His Father.

Let me just briefly answer you. A family consist of a father, mother, children, uncles and aunties, and yet though they are not the same or equal, ARE THEY NOT STILL ONE? (as we say ONE family Unit?)

Or in a company eg a bank we have the gateman, clerks, manager, director etc but if you slap the gateman shall the Bank Family not throw you in prison?

Trinity just simply means separate Individuals working together as though they are a single unit.
Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by Nobody555(f): 11:02pm On Jan 24, 2022
Steep:

The bible teaches that God is a trinity, for example in Genesis 1vv 26 God said let us make man in our image, meaning there was more than one person there.

How did this scenario prove Trinity? What if he was talking to angels?

Secondly, God speak and God performs the action of creation in the bible, and also God inspects and saw it is God, this shows there are three persons here, one speaks, one performs the action and one inspects but all three are called God.

Your personal assumption or what? Cos the Bible obviously didn't say that.

Deutonomy 6 vv4 says yahweh is one yahweh, now the Hebrew word used for one is plural meaning God has a unity of plurality, this wouldn't make sense if God is not a multi personal being.

Elohim is plural for El which is rather qualitative not quantitative.

As for Jesus not being equal to the father, yes it is true that is because Jesus became a man, as a man he is less than God.
1 Corinthians 15 24-28 should explain better.
Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by Nobody555(f): 11:08pm On Jan 24, 2022
What bout the angels and the other creatures in heaven are they part of the Trinity too? Or are they not one with your 3 Gods?

Dtruthspeaker:


Christ did say "all power hath been given to Him" and that He was sent by His Father.

Let me just briefly answer you. A family consist of a father, mother, children, uncles and aunties, and yet though they are not the same or equal, ARE THEY NOT STILL ONE? (as we say ONE family Unit?)

Or in a company eg a bank we have the gateman, clerks, manager, director etc but if you slap the gateman shall the Bank Family not throw you in prison?

Trinity just simply means separate Individuals working together as though they are a single unit.
Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by Dtruthspeaker: 11:09pm On Jan 24, 2022
Nobody555:

...Worshiping three Gods is not pure worship. And knowing the only true God and his son the messiah is essential to have eternal life.
Preaching to truth is part of worship.
You can say whatever you like, it doesn't stop me from saying God's Truth. The Trinity is false doctrine.
Worship only God! His name is Jehovah!

First, those who hold the Trinity concept have always declared they are Worshiping One and not Three.

Secondly, the bold since you already had a preset mind, why did you make this post? Did the Trinity people call on you to come worship their 3?

False representation is also the sin of deceiving. Let your yes, be yes and your nay, be nay rather than come up looking like you are seeking enlightenment.
Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by Dtruthspeaker: 11:17pm On Jan 24, 2022
Nobody555:
What bout the angels and the other creatures in heaven are they part of the Trinity too? Or are they not one with your 3 Gods?


Why don't you just clearly come out and mock those who have no problem with the idea of Trinity rather than even going to ridiculous proportions such as even saying that angels too are part of the Trinity when the Personalities have been clearly identified, the identification of which is very very popular.

But you are obviously on a murderous hunt to harm some innocent who were laying peacefully in their lawful places until you came to disturb their peace.

Yet, you expect to have eternal life!

Well, The Judge, shall Judge all these things.
Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by Nobody555(f): 1:42am On Jan 25, 2022
Lol Jesus and Jehovah are one in purpose not one as God.
Trinity is a false doctrine my bro!
At the end Jesus will be subjected under God's rule after handing the kingdom to his Father, and God will be all in all. 1 Corinthians 15:24-28. You think Trinity is valid? cheesy

John 17:21-22
[21]I pray that they will all be one, just as you and I are one—as you are in me, Father, and I am in you. And may they be in us so that the world will believe you sent me.
[22]“I have given them the glory you gave me, so they may be one as we are one.


Dtruthspeaker:


Why don't you just clearly come out and mock those who have no problem with the idea of Trinity rather than even going to ridiculous proportions such as even saying that angels too are part of the Trinity when the Personalities have been clearly identified, the identification of which is very very popular.

But you are obviously on a murderous hunt to harm some innocent who were laying peacefully in their lawful places until you came to disturb their peace.

Yet, you expect to have eternal life!

Well, The Judge, shall Judge all these things.
Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by Steep(m): 4:18am On Jan 25, 2022
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Re-adjust your reply properly
Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by Dtruthspeaker: 6:44am On Jan 25, 2022
Nobody555:
Lol Jesus and Jehovah are one in purpose not one as God.
Trinity is a false doctrine my bro!...

You said "one in purpose" thus you have supported the idea of Trinity, so case closed.
Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by Nobody555(f): 10:42am On Jan 25, 2022
See YHWH is one God, one person. Nobody knew Jesus untill he came to the world. He's a God, a mighty one but he's definitely not the one true GOD, the Almighty. His coming to the word to die and give us eternal life was all according to God's will.
God appointed and gave him authority, power, an excellent name and the kingdom to carry out his missions. When the will of God for earth has been completely done, Jesus will hand over the kingdom back to the Father and become subjected to Jehovah's rulership. Jehovah will be all in all.
Hebrews 1:4-5,9. 1 Corinthians 15:24-28. John 5:26. Mathew 28:18.
smiley smiley smiley

Dtruthspeaker:


You said "one in purpose" thus you have supported the idea of Trinity, so case closed.

Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by Nobody555(f): 10:47am On Jan 25, 2022
But the 3 Gods are distinct persons right? How would you believe that three distinct persons are one person if not brainwashing?

Dtruthspeaker:


First, those who hold the Trinity concept have always declared they are Worshiping One and not Three.

Secondly, the bold since you already had a preset mind, why did you make this post? Did the Trinity people call on you to come worship their 3?

False representation is also the sin of deceiving. Let your yes, be yes and your nay, be nay rather than come up looking like you are seeking enlightenment.


Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by Nobody555(f): 10:56am On Jan 25, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:


Christ did say "all power hath been given to Him" and that He was sent by His Father.

Let me just briefly answer you. A family consist of a father, mother, children, uncles and aunties, and yet though they are not the same or equal, ARE THEY NOT STILL ONE? (as we say ONE family Unit?)

Or in a company eg a bank we have the gateman, clerks, manager, director etc but if you slap the gateman shall the Bank Family not throw you in prison?

Trinity just simply means separate Individuals working together as though they are a single unit.

Oh single unit not single God. sad
Your illustration here shows that the Gods you worship are three distinct Gods but working like they are one but actually they are not one?
See their working together as a unit doesn't make them one God. They still remain three persons. God is not a group of three persons or Gods working together as one God. It make no sense.
Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by Nobody555(f): 10:59am On Jan 25, 2022
Lol you sure say you get the holy ghost?

Steep:


I am already blessed with peace, joy and righteousness of the holy ghost.
Your fake God has no blessing or peace to offer
Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by Dtruthspeaker: 11:11am On Jan 25, 2022
Nobody555:
But the 3 Gods are distinct persons right? How would you believe that three distinct persons are one person if not brainwashing?


Just as saying the concept of Family, consisting of husband, wife and children is brainwashing! I understand. I depart.
Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:12am On Jan 25, 2022
Nobody555:

Lol you sure say you get the holy ghost?

You missed his point!
He never said he has the Holy Spirit rather he said he has the holy ghost
So you can't expect the fruitage of God's Holy Spirit from him, it's that of the ghost he called "holy" that will be evident in him! undecided

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Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by cornelboy(f): 11:16am On Jan 25, 2022
Lol i get your point.
But let's say he meant the holy spirit, i wan use some questions reset his brain..

MaxInDHouse:


You missed his point!
He never said he has the Holy Spirit rather he said he has the holy ghost
So you can't expect the fruitage of God's Holy Spirit from him, it's that of the ghost he called "holy" that will be evident in him! undecided

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Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by sonmvayina(m): 11:23am On Jan 25, 2022
Nobody555:
Lol God only breathe the breath of life (spirit) into Adam lifeless body and he become a living being. All other human inherit life from Adam. God didn't give everyone any specific spirit but the spirit is common to all.


Wetin you talk when I no talk?
Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by Nobody555(f): 12:04pm On Jan 25, 2022
The spirit or breath doesn't continue to live as a separate entity.

sonmvayina:


Wetin you talk when I no talk?

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Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:17pm On Jan 25, 2022
cornelboy:
Lol i get your point.
But let's say he meant the holy spirit, i wan use some questions reset his brain..
Jesus is the one handling the Holy Spirit for now so it will never be dispensed to work with arrogant individuals who don't want to submit themselves to the same line of thought with others.
That's why Jesus said:

"For where there are two or three gathered together in my name, there I am in their midst.” Matthew 18:20

Jesus can't come in the flesh anymore but he will be in the midst of true believers and using God's active force to direct them.
That's why it's impossible for anyone to claim he is a true Christian without a group with which he is connected to Christ because Jesus never promised to work with isolated freethinkers claiming believers. cheesy

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Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by Nobody555(f): 12:29pm On Jan 25, 2022
Lol a husband, wife and children are one person? cheesy they can only be one as a family!

The idea of Trinity is wrong! If the three Gods are three distinct persons as Trinity says, then they can't be one God or one person.

The fact is Jesus is working for God according to God's will. God's will is his will. God is greater than him and God gave him everything he needs and made him what he is.

Jesus always have a Father and a God, in his preexistence, while on earth and after ascension.

What happens at the end? He will return the rulership to God and becomes God's subject! God will be all in all!

"Hear o Israel the LORD your GOD is one"
"There's no other gods besides me"


John 17:21-22
[21]I pray that they will all be one, just as you and I are one—as you are in me, Father, and I am in you. And may they be in us so that the world will believe you sent me.
[22]“I have given them the glory you gave me, so they may be one as we are one.

Dtruthspeaker:


Just as saying the concept of Family, consisting of husband, wife and children is brainwashing! I understand. I depart.
Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by Steep(m): 12:41pm On Jan 25, 2022
Nobody555:
Lol you sure say you get the holy ghost?

Of course you are not born again that is why you don't have the holy spirit.
Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by Steep(m): 12:53pm On Jan 25, 2022
Nobody555:
See YHWH is one God, one person. Nobody knew Jesus untill he came to the world. He's a God, a mighty one but he's definitely not the one true GOD, the Almighty. His coming to the word to die and give us eternal life was all according to God's will.
God appointed and gave him authority, power, an excellent name and the kingdom to carry out his missions. When the will of God for earth has been completely done, Jesus will hand over the kingdom back to the Father and become subjected to Jehovah's rulership. Jehovah will be all in all.
Hebrews 1:4-5,9. 1 Corinthians 15:24-28. John 5:26. Mathew 28:18.
smiley smiley smiley

So you mean Jesus is a God? Which means you believe Jehovah was lying when he said there was no God with him, when infact John state that Jesus was with God .

Deuteronomy 32:39 See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Jehovah witness organization insults Jehovah calling him a liar, when Jehovah said there was no god with him they wanna prove to him Jesus is a god that was with him that even help him in creation.
Bunch of idolaters and truthhaters
Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by Steep(m): 12:55pm On Jan 25, 2022
cornelboy:
Lol i get your point.
But let's say he meant the holy spirit, i wan use some questions reset his brain..

see this clown, I have dealt with your elders before you, they ran away in shame.
Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by Steep(m): 12:58pm On Jan 25, 2022
Nobody555:
Lol a husband, wife and children are one person? cheesy they can only be one as a family!

The idea of Trinity is wrong! If the three Gods are three distinct persons as Trinity says, then they can't be one God or one person.

The fact is Jesus is working for God according to God's will. God's will is his will. God is greater than him and God gave him everything he needs and made him what he is.

Jesus always have a Father and a God, in his preexistence, while on earth and after ascension.

What happens at the end? He will return the rulership to God and becomes God's subject! God will be all in all!

"Hear o Israel the LORD your GOD is one"
"There's no other gods besides me"


John 17:21-22
[21]I pray that they will all be one, just as you and I are one—as you are in me, Father, and I am in you. And may they be in us so that the world will believe you sent me.
[22]“I have given them the glory you gave me, so they may be one as we are one.

You will soon eat the humble pie, don't worry.

Can you bring the Hebrew interlinear of Hebrew 6 vv 4?
Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by sonmvayina(m): 1:09pm On Jan 25, 2022
Nobody555:
The spirit or breath doesn't continue to live as a separate entity.


I don't understand be more clearer. Explain it like am in primary 5.
Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by Nobody555(f): 11:25pm On Jan 25, 2022
You no de read your Bible?

Steep:

So you mean Jesus is a God? Which means you believe Jehovah was lying when he said there was no God with him, when infact John state that Jesus was with God .

Deuteronomy 32:39 See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Jehovah witness organization insults Jehovah calling him a liar, when Jehovah said there was no god with him they wanna prove to him Jesus is a god that was with him that even help him in creation.
Bunch of idolaters and truthhaters

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