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Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is God's Firstborn, Jesus Christ Or Isreal by Dtruthspeaker: 4:32pm On Jan 23, 2022
Lighthouse50:
Bible is clear and straight. Israel is God's first born while Yahshua is God's beloved son
Very clear but he believes in stirring up strifes and casting evil aspersions, so that the sons of Satan can come to bite!
Christianity Etc › Re: Thank God For Broke Christians & Rich Unbelievers by Dtruthspeaker: 4:29pm On Jan 23, 2022
Myer:
Only poor people think like this.
I prefer to be poor at the first and live forever than to be rich and Die Forever.

"Better the end"
Christianity Etc › Re: Thank God For Broke Christians & Rich Unbelievers by Dtruthspeaker: 4:24pm On Jan 23, 2022
HardMirror:
tell me one single tangible thing you gain as a Christian that no other religion can claim same gain.
I get to Live Again, in a Good Full world, where evil people like you will never be there.

So, since you people have destroyed this one, YOU CAN HAVE IT ALL, ESPECIALLY AS IT IS BEING DESTROYED AND IT WILL BE DESTROYED BY THE LANDLORD.

I'LL RATHER TAKE THE NEXT FLIGHT TO THE NEW WORLD THE LANDLORD SHALL MAKE AFTER PERMANENTLY REMOVING AND DESTROYING TO THE DNA, ALL THE EVILS WHO DESTROYED THIS ONE.

SO YOU CAN HAVE IT ALL! I'LL RATHER WAIT FOR THE NEW ONE.

THANK GOD THIS ONE IS EVEN OLD, I REFER NEW THINGS.
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is God's Firstborn, Jesus Christ Or Isreal by Dtruthspeaker: 4:13pm On Jan 23, 2022
How does this save one's life from death now?
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is God's Firstborn, Jesus Christ Or Isreal by Dtruthspeaker: 4:12pm On Jan 23, 2022
tctrills:
Please consider these 2 scriptures.
1. Exodus 4.22-23
22 And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith the Lord, Israel is my son, even my firstborn:
Clearly First born of the Children of men

tctrills:
23 And I say unto thee, Let my son go, that he may serve me: and if thou refuse to let him go, behold, I will slay thy son, even thy firstborn.
First born of God was not mentioned here only "my son" which is still the same son in verse 22.

So you only have 2 verses whereas you wrongly said 3

tctrills:
2. Colossians 1.15
15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
Creature tells you He is different from man for God created many many things including man but not limited to man.
Christianity Etc › Re: Thank God For Broke Christians & Rich Unbelievers by Dtruthspeaker: 4:03pm On Jan 23, 2022
Myer:
Well said. grin

I'm sure their next argument will be that their benefit are in heaven and not material things.

Yet the material things are promised everywhere in the bible but I know more Christians that are Broker than stocks exchangers.
Only fools like you people think it a good idea to buy land and building in disaster zones.
Christianity Etc › Re: Thank God For Broke Christians & Rich Unbelievers by Dtruthspeaker: 3:57pm On Jan 23, 2022
HardMirror:
Thank God for Elon Musk the richest man in the world Not a Christian
Thank God for Jeff Bezoz
Thank God for Bill Gates

All not Christians

THANK God for Arab money!
Thank God for Chinese money! THEY ARE BORROWING TO NATIONS! they are unbelievers!

Thank God for broke suffering Christians that their shoes are worn out and dont know what to eat after church service.

Thank god for broke Christian's that are owing school fees, House rent and cannot repay loan app loans.


Shey una no get sense to know that you benefit nothing from being Christians.

Shey u shout and clap when your church member is giving you lamba claiming he or she is giving testimony.

Testimony time! Lying time!

Keep deceiving yourselves and be thinking your religion makes you special!

Imagine if the richest people in the world were Christians we for no hear word again.

Una mumu never reach
O foolish man! A person who suffered, worked and bought land, built his house and only for the forces to destroy it, is still a loser.
Christianity Etc › Re: Thank God For Broke Christians & Rich Unbelievers by Dtruthspeaker: 3:53pm On Jan 23, 2022
Nelidee:
Now you're showing us your true color. You were one of those Christians who thought this way:

I can only be a Christian if God blesses me with riches and perfect health and whenever I pray or ask for a miracle, he better answer me immediately.


Eya, sorry. God the father is not like that. If that is what you're looking for, I suggest you go and look for Mammon (JuJu) to serve. By the way, now that you're no longer a Christian but an atheist I hope you are now as rich as Elon, bezos and gates?

If yes, please enjoy your "riches" in this world, but as for true believers and followers of Christ, we will continue to put our faith in him both in good and bad times because we are aware of a greater and perfect reward.

James 2:5 ; Listen, my beloved brothers, has not God chosen those who are poor in the world to be rich in faith and heirs of the kingdom, which he has promised to those who love him?
Don't mind the stupid demon for everyone knows that "Riches is not The Way".

But he is here to rapture his people.
Christianity Etc › Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by Dtruthspeaker: 3:46pm On Jan 23, 2022
Nobody555:
Important note!
Pls ensure to make your responses short and precise. Referencing the bible is very essential. No insult on personal level or religion is allowed pls. Let's try to portray Christ in our character and how we interact with others. Don't try to force your opinions on others, it's an open discussion. When proving your point, asking questions is better than making assertions.

Since when i was in my early teens, i have been finding it hard to comprehend and believe the Trinity. I'm often told that I need to believe God as mystery. So i wonder, how can I know or walk with a mystery God?
I also wonder if the the disciples and the early church understand God as three persons in one God or one God in three persons or just one singular God, a person? ...

Now this thread will focus mainly on the "COEQUALNESS" of the Trinity members. Other qualities will be discussed in my subsequent thread.
Is the Father greater than the son?
Are YHWH and Jesus really coequal?
...
We have dealt with all these before but right now is it important?

No! For All the Greats and Hosts of Heaven are in their respective places AND THEY ARE NOT THREATENED BY THE JUDGEMENT OF THE COMING KING.

BUT WE ARE!

SO YOU OUGHT TO BE CONCENTRATING ON BEING FOUND INNOCENT ON JUDGEMENT DAY RATHER STIRRING UP ARGUMENTS WHICH HAVE NO BEARING ON JUDGMENT DAY!
Christianity Etc › Re: Stop Joking With Hell Fire by Dtruthspeaker: 3:34pm On Jan 23, 2022
venabili:
That is something you can not prove actually. Its a statement of belief, not fact.
It is a statement of Truth and the proof of it is GO SEE THEM WHEN THEY ARE ABOUT TO DIE OR DYING, IF OPPORTUNED, YOU WOULD SEE HOW THEY SQUIRM AND TURN FROM DIDE TO SIDE BEGGING DEATH AND TRYING TO NEGOTIATE WITH DEATH TO NOT TAKE THEM!

venabili:
Faith is called faith for a reason. It is the belief in something that can not be proven through scientific or repeatable methodologies
Over the bar! We are not talking about faith.
Christianity Etc › Re: Stop Joking With Hell Fire by Dtruthspeaker: 3:31pm On Jan 23, 2022
venabili:
That is something you can not prove actually. Its a statement of belief, not fact.
It is a statement of Truth and the proof of it is GO SEE THEM WHEN THEY ARE ABOUT TO DIE OR DYING, IF OPPORTUNED, YOU WOULD SEE HOW THEY SQUIRM AND TURN FROM DIDE TO SIDE BEGGING DEATH AND TRYING TO NEGOTIATE WITH DEATH TO NOT TAKE THEM!
Christianity Etc › Re: Stop Joking With Hell Fire by Dtruthspeaker: 3:25pm On Jan 23, 2022
Uchesis:
Are u saying that God is like the man who kills his three daughters?
grin We are like God (and Satan) so we can Lawfully kill like God or unlawfully kill like Satan.

Uchesis:
There is nothing like little souls. All souls are equal
I know! I was just trying to differentiate the souls of babies from those of grown ups.

Uchesis:
Incase u don't know, souls don't burn. So no fire can harm a soul
You obviously don't know God nor know His Lake of Fire.

And neither has the soul been tested in that fire to see whether it shall burn.

So you are speaking from the end of your knowledge.
Christianity Etc › Re: Errors And Biblical Contradictions In The Bible by Dtruthspeaker: 3:17pm On Jan 23, 2022
kingxsamz:
I can't read all these rants...
grin grin grin You did if not you would not have responded. grin grin hahaha grin grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Most People, Especially Christains Believe That Pastors Must Be Poor? by Dtruthspeaker: 3:13pm On Jan 23, 2022
SonOfEl:
Accusing EVERY Nigerian pastor is sheer stupidity and faultfinding.... A shameful thing to do
When people do wrong, complaints will certainly be raised up against them.
Christianity Etc › Re: Tithing And Christian Ignorance by Dtruthspeaker: 3:12pm On Jan 23, 2022
DZTech:
It's Christ's commandment on tithing that I'm waiting for you to quote.
Christ Said "Keep my Commandments" and tithing is in the Commandment.
Christianity Etc › Re: Stop Joking With Hell Fire by Dtruthspeaker: 12:15pm On Jan 23, 2022
AdeOri99:
I see that you love arguments over facts.

You got the wrong guy.
Arguments is about presentation of facts and mine stood while yours fell and you could not save them.

You even rather confirmed what I was saying all along.

So end of argument
Christianity Etc › Re: Stop Joking With Hell Fire by Dtruthspeaker: 12:12pm On Jan 23, 2022
Uchesis:
Is your girlfriend the same as your child or your creation?
Will you cast your child to die for whatever reason?

Answer pls
If girlfriend, co-creation like me can get this judgement, is it now my ruler, phone or car which are my true children?

Or if you are referring to the little souls who God gave me that we call children, are they are also co-creations same as girlfriend, SO SAME LAW AND JUDGEMENT.

But if you are talking about my true children, that is PS1, Nokia 3310, Ruler then all my useless children have entered the fire grin

And only the good ones are in my houses! grin

Same Law at work. grin

Uchesis:
Will you cast your child to die for whatever reason?
And these people have answered you.

https://www.nairaland.com/6951338/how-k-ll-disabled-daughter#109592954

https://www.nairaland.com/6936304/man-kills-three-daughters-enugu#109312762
Christianity Etc › Re: Stop Joking With Hell Fire by Dtruthspeaker: 12:10pm On Jan 23, 2022
Uchesis:
Is your girlfriend the same as your child or your creation?
Will you cast your child to die for whatever reason?

Answer pls
If girlfriend, co-creation like me can get this judgement, is it now my ruler, phone or car which are my true children?

Or if you are referring to the little souls who God gave me that we call children, are they are also co-creations same as girlfriend, SO SAME LAW AND JUDGEMENT.

But if you are talking about my true children all my useless children have entered the fire grin

And only the good ones are in my houses! grin

Same Law at work. grin

Uchesis:
Will you cast your child to die for whatever reason?
And these people have answered you.

https://www.nairaland.com/6951338/how-k-ll-disabled-daughter#109592954

https://www.nairaland.com/6936304/man-kills-three-daughters-enugu#109312762
Christianity Etc › Re: Stop Joking With Hell Fire by Dtruthspeaker: 11:47am On Jan 23, 2022
AdeOri99:
No sane man will see what is wrong and do it,
C'mon do not ridicule yourself. Who does not know that it is wrong to fuq. people's wives and girlfriends and husbands? Or to set up a colleague to be sacked because he was better than you in the office?

It is proven beyond every doubt that people have seen a wrong thing and did it, even enjoyed doing it, so no show here.

AdeOri99:
More so, I never wish anyone dead, I have got a couple of people who betrays me, the only resolve I had is never to trust them again, but if they need me, I am always there. Cause it's my way.
Now you lie! When your girlfriend cheated on you, you wished her death.

It is only because death does not take orders from you and that, that moment passed (probably cheated on another too) and you no longer remember the pain of that time, hence your present stance.


AdeOri99:
I said you people are evil, you are ashamed to admit your evil,...
You did not say it to me O. The substance of what you said to me I addressed, so do not fraudulently bring in what was not in issue.

This one, no dey.

AdeOri99:
Now, who told you that you need a judge to be judged,
Who did you think A Creator and Father is when things go wrong with his creations AND THERE ARE COMPLAINTS? grin

Answer: A Judge

AdeOri99:
do evil and see if it will not catch up with you in the future (it is a fundamental law of nature,
Now you have sunk your own ship in confessing The Truth and agreed with me all I have been saying that "the evil you have done shall be repayed" whether here or after here. grin

You really do not have anything valid and reasonable to say

O God of Law. It is Time for Judgement!
Christianity Etc › Re: Stop Joking With Hell Fire by Dtruthspeaker: 11:10am On Jan 23, 2022
venabili:
Hmm. How come Nigerian politicians never reap the reward of their wickedness despite all their killing, stealing and destructions? They usually live to a ripe old age and even leave their children well off. Are they bribing karma? Or this universal law excludes nigeria?
There is a trap they have entered which God hath set for them.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do So Many Born Into Godly Homes Turn To Become Atheists? by Dtruthspeaker: 11:01am On Jan 23, 2022
Timoleon:
For those who hold on to the teachings from the monastery, seminaries etc and end up becoming revered fathers, do you argue that they do not know about God or freedom in Christ? Or that they do not know the power of God?
"By their fruits we shall know them" is The Law!

If their fruits show God, then they must have gotten good teachers.

But we see their fruits and it is not God Like!

Therefore, bad teachers!
Christianity Etc › Re: Stop Joking With Hell Fire by Dtruthspeaker: 10:57am On Jan 23, 2022
AdeOri99:
So you being a damaged soul, having used the curse word, deserves the fire.
Me, HAVING BEEN WARNED TO NOT take people's wives and girlfriends, put people in trouble, kill people with my mind and spirit, did a wicked thing to an innocent person simply because he was a goody-goody, cursed him, among other many many evil things which I did for years and years against uncountable persons.

Now, One day, I was arrested and taken to Court to be asked if I did these wicked things, even though I was warned not to do it, because it was not a good thing to do, and because I wanted to do it, I did it.

Justice tells me that I have given great pain to so many a people I can not count, spanning years and years and I did not even want to stop giving it.,

JUSTICE TELLS ME, BOY, I DESERVE EVERY PAIN THAT CAN BE RETURNED BACK TO ME.

A PERSON WHO GAVE FOOD SHOULD BE GIVEN FOOD AND NOT HUNGER.

A PERSON WHO GAVE JOY AND LAUGHTER CAN NOT BE GIVEN SORROW AND PAIN IN REPLY.

A PERSON WHO HAS GIVEN PAIN MUST BE GIVEN THE PAIN HE GAVE.

SO WHERE IS THE FIRE, THAT I MAY ENTER IN!

THAT IS THE JUDGEMENT AND THAT IS THE LAW!

AdeOri99:
I don't know that if your loved one dies, you just discard them into the dustbin and not prepare for them a befitting burial. "Comparing human soul to in living things".
DID YOU CARE ABOUT THE DEATH OF YOUR EX GIRLFRIEND AFTER SHE HAD CHEATED ON YOU?

DID YOU NOT LOVE HER BEFORE HER CHEATING?

IS IT NOT BECAUSE SHE CHEATED THAT YOU CASTED HER OUT TO DIE?

YOU HAVE ALREADY GIVEN THE SAME TYPE OF JUDGMENT WHICH GOD IS ONLY COMING TO GIVE YOU, FOR YOU TOO ARE AS GUILTY AS SHE WAS!
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do So Many Born Into Godly Homes Turn To Become Atheists? by Dtruthspeaker: 10:39am On Jan 23, 2022
Timoleon:
Not necessarily so. A lot of people who didn’t even grow up with their parents but rather in a monastery trained by reverend fathers and sisters still end up questioning the whole institution and what they preach. It’s the one very thing that sepeeates from animals. Our ability to question what we have bee taught to believe in as an unshakable truth.
You are still proving my answer right. A Monastery is not the right place and Way to teach children.

A monastery is a type of prison and prisons are not places to teach children about freedom and goodness and The Power of God!
Christianity Etc › Re: There Is No Such Word Like Hell Fire In The Bible, They Were Never Used Together by Dtruthspeaker: 10:33am On Jan 23, 2022
Giftlove11:
Good morning to you all..

sometimes, i wonder where christains got the word 'hell fire' from, i've never seen such word in the bible.

there is no bible chapter or verse that made use of hell and fire together. Rather, it tells us that hell is a place of unquenchable fire.
Mathew 5:22
Christianity Etc › Re: Stop Joking With Hell Fire by Dtruthspeaker: 10:30am On Jan 23, 2022
okoroemeka:
what type of love is that,his father is threatening to throw us into a lake of fire for eternity for sinning,what type of Father does that?...
Deceive yourself and your evil siblings. Every Father automatically knows that he shall cast away any child who goes against him, therefore he warns his children again and again and again UNTIL THEIR CUP IS FULL.

After that you are not his child but an enemy exactly as no husband divorce their evil wives.

And if the stupid wife should still come near him after divorce, it is death she is looking for!
Christianity Etc › Re: Stop Joking With Hell Fire by Dtruthspeaker: 10:20am On Jan 23, 2022
AdeOri99:
But Hell-fire is a Joke!

Like, which sensible human being will throw what he loves into the fire....

Can you throw your kid into the fire?
See how you are lost! Where did all our damaged and annoying toys which we once loved, go to? Eg our game boys, Super NES, Sega, PS1, Nokia 3310, Toyota Tercel etc

Answer: The Dustbin, the Fire and the House of Destruction!
Christianity Etc › Re: Stop Joking With Hell Fire by Dtruthspeaker: 10:17am On Jan 23, 2022
AdeOri99:
But Hell-fire is a Joke!

Like, which sensible human being will throw what he loves into the fire....

Can you throw your kid into the fire?
See how you are lost! Where did all our damaged and annoying toys which we once loved, go to?

Answer: The Dustbin, the Fire and the House of Destruction!
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Christian View About Prenuptial Agreement In Marriage by Dtruthspeaker: 10:06am On Jan 23, 2022
profstar:
Happy sunday Nairalander,
I heard a minister criticising prenuptial agreement but without biblical support for his criticism.

Please what is the biblical view about prenuptial agreement?
Love does not evil.

In the absence of evil, agreements do not exist for Love is already an Agreement to Do Good to each other.

That is what God Commanded and Established! 1 Corinthians 13: 4-7.2
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Yahoo Yahoo Start From The Bible? by Dtruthspeaker: 10:04am On Jan 23, 2022
300whitewolves:
Good morning my people, this morning as I was preparing for work, my cousin just came off with the fact that yahoo yahoo started from Bible just that it wasn't named yahoo yahoo as that then, the example she gave was that Jacob with the help of his mother took the identity of another person (Jacob) to swindle their father (Isaac) there by collecting another person's benefit � which did not belong to him in the first place. Abeg help me look at the analogy.
Now you are happy to say that 419 started in the Bible and not somewhere else but when the Bible said man came from dust and all, you were happy to run to another place and claim "we don't know how this world began".
Christianity Etc › Re: Don't Mingle With Worldly People: What Does This Mean by Dtruthspeaker: 9:58am On Jan 23, 2022
Funny how the Bible says stay out of the world but the world will never let anyone stay out.

They pursue you, harrass you and when you still refuse to follow them, then they start insulting you and start attacking the God and the Bible.

Funny how they shout 'it's my right" but when it comes to the rights of others to stay away from them, then they start shouting and scratching like the witches and demons they are!
Christianity Etc › Re: Don't Mingle With Worldly People: What Does This Mean by Dtruthspeaker: 9:52am On Jan 23, 2022
helinues:
That statement doesn't make sense...

If people should not engage with worldly people, na Pluto people are they expected to engage with?
Exactly as the world is shouting to everyone fuq. up and down, drink, smoke, tattoo, do whatever you like after all it is your right, don't listen to God and His Bible, the statement therefore means "DO NOT LISTEN TO THEM AND STAY AWAY FROM THEM"!

I know you this, but you are just here to ensure that everyone remains an evil thing.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why You Should Never Blame The Devil For Your Own Downfall by Dtruthspeaker: 9:44am On Jan 23, 2022
jesusjnr2020:
Why You Should Never Blame The Devil For Your Own Downfall...
He who participates in a crime, is a criminal.

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