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NNTR:
Cat caught the tongue things, going on here

Truly seeing a Righteous man and see if it is not well with him on all sides, dont me the righteous man doesnt have problems to overcome nor not have problems to contend with..

Cat caught the tongue? Verily, you can see that the thread shows that I responded to the issues advanced even if my response is not what you expected.

Secondly, reed raised the crux of this thread saying

LordReed:
When I see that believers have eliminated all the problems in their lives or at least the main ones.

And we all know what "all the problems/main problems" mean to wit, Good food, decent shelter, comfortability, good job and earnings, good sustenance, happiness, good health, love, joy, peace ,rest, play etc.

And it is known that any who has all these things, does not have a problem.

So you do not have to become aslithering simply because I am simply saying that any who is Truly a believer of God, does not have these issues.

"The Lord has been my shepherd and I want Nothing".

LordReed:
So how can it be implemented?

The only way I wish to offer is that you hope you live long to Truly See a Righteous man and see if it is not well with him on all sides.

PastorMIsBack:
Easy on the 'satanist'. LordReed would become the greatest preacher ever. He just doesn't know it yet

That guy?

A bag of rice would return to N3,500. before The Hope of it even occurs.

sholay2011:


This thread went south quickly. God have mercy!

Mr OP, while I get the point you're trying to make, Bro Max is right though.

I'm not the op.

And rightness is not established on democracy exactly as everyone knows it is wrong to do yahoo yahoo and sleep with people's husbands and wives, yet by democracy, they say, it is "right" to do.

And here is a Law I am certain you are not aware of

"Thou shalt not follow a multitude to do evil;" Exodus 23:2

MaxInDHouse:
I want to believe you're a teenager, that's why you're so arrogant that you can't admit you're wrong.
Apart from Adam Jesus is the second PERFECT man to ever walked this planet, that's why only him can save (redeem) obedient mankind from Adamic sin.
I don't know why this simple truth seems too difficult for you to accept and if you want to argue it please present your argument not running away and throwing insults here and there!

See how you make a fool of yourself? Is this the first time you are engaging me to not remember that I am a Lawyer and Lawyers are not teenagers?

Surely, as potent5 declared

potent5:
In the last day mad people shall roam the world and madness itself shall multiply.

...madness has surely fallen on you.

That said, "as old as you are, if you still can not discern "Right" and "Wrong", then your life is already a waste."

LordReed:
If god is nature why does nature need worship?...

Change of Post!

The topic is reliability and trust and not worship.

LordReed:
How can you trust something that has no way to prove its reliability or in certain cases has been shown to be no different from natural processes?

The first time a plane flew and landed, most people did not trust it.

Same for walking on high sky walks.

But Trust comes from Seeing what happened to your neighbour and willingness to personally test and see.

MaxInDHouse:
It's not about throwing tantrums my friend, if you don't know what the Bible really teach you need to calm down and learn.
Only Jesus is perfect all other humans were declared righteous by their fine WORKS not because they were perfect.

As old as you are, if you still can not discern "Right" from "Wrong", then your life is already a waste.

People no dey Fear God, such that they think to alter what God hath set.

For those who hath an eye to see Revelation 2:20 ought to guide.

GodIsDead:
Except it wasn't a confession. Neither was it an admission. But I know desperation makes people to imagine false realities

Most confessions and admissions escape even before the confessor is aware.

That's how it is son.

NNTR:
Since you just for the respectful sake of being truculent, want to be truculent then tell wherePsalm 23, 91, 92, Jeremiah 7:23 all over the Bible, promises you a problem free life.

When a sheep is laying down abundance, does it have a problem?

When a soul is always recharged, can it be weary such that it would have a problem?

When your steps are guided such that death and evil mind their business because you are passing by, do you have a problem?

When you can eat in the presence of your enemies, do you have a problem?

When you are a Goodness and Mercy Magnet, do you have a problem?

Verily, verily I tell you, such a one has not a problem.

NNTR:
If David didnt have the problem of Goliath to overcome he would have found favour with Saul.
If Joseph didnt solve Pharaoh's problem, he wouldnt have become Prime Minister of Egypt.

As I said earlier "Problems are games for us with which we use to show the world that we are better than they are BECAUSE, THE LORD, IS TRULY WITH US!"

NNTR:
I reiterate, life is problems, while living, is solving problems

I did not say it is not a problem solving life but surely life is sweeter for the man who drives his A/C Prado from Onitsha to Lagos and gets there the same way he left Onitsha, than for the man who has to walk with his feet, from Onitsha to Lagos.

That is surely death and hell waka. And no wise person, would choose to walk.

But people are rarely wise!

LordReed:
The question wasn't who can testify, it was what problem have you solved to show you are different.

Seeing, is believing but seeing can not be implemented in nairaland.

LordReed:
Exactly.

And that is just simply because God is Good, being and doing Good to all.

In that He Knows that No man can live without good at all. They shall die.

So, even if it is a little crumb of goodness, they shall have it, for it shall keep a man alive and sustain him. (Which is why He Cursed the earth with hardness and not absolute dryness, else man will die, even as soon as he is born.

But surely, the Children of The Masters of the House do eat and drink fat as Isaiah 65:13-16 Said, better than the rest as Daniel and friends proved.

GodIsDead:
SMH. Look at you jumping in glee over your lack of intelligence. Pray tell, what does the conditional "IF" mean to you, sir?

"Ifs" do not exist where Confessions and Admissions are made.

GodIsDead:
So you didn't go to school, and you also believe in storybooks. Wawu! No nau. What a shame. And you're thinking you aren't doomed to be less than all other functioning human being in intellect, for the rest of your life? ...

If you went to school, surely you would have known that all these are bad arguments clearly proving beyond reasonable doubt an inability to counter for being fallacies ad hominems/Change of Post (Straw man)/ad baculum.

All because you have nothing reasonable and valid for you to say!

So, Just hold your horses son!

LordReed:
You didn't answer the question.

I did!

And the only people who can give Truth full testimony of it are my neighbours and colleagues.

AdventHero:
Being happy to manage can be liked to many other things; but it is not because they believe this can actually be better and yet chose to remain ordinary. This principle does not only apply to the accumulation of material things, it also apply to the practice of our faith as a way of life.

The essence and substance of the practice of our faith is that "it may be well with our souls"

So, as God Said, He would wash both the inside (spirit) and the outside "material things" of our vessel, that we may testify and truly say, "it is well with me".

And until this happens, you guys are gonna keep "alluta continua-ing"!

LordReed:
Yet to see you do anything about the kidnappings. Which problem have you used to show you are better?

I told you before, "I do not care to live in this world, so Kidnapping, herdsmen, rituals, fuel scarcity, is not my problem at all

LordReed:
Which problem have you used to show you are better?

I told you before that one of our numerous gifts for following The Lord is that "we prosper in everything"

And because of this I am greatly hated (and loved, THEY NEED ME! ) by my neighbours

THEY INDEED SEE THE DIFFERENCE.

NNTR:
No human being was promised a problem free life. We cannot solve problems, with the same thinking, used to create them. We hear that life is problems, while living, is solving problems

Time is the solution to all problems, also, I've heard it, said, and that will be talking of main ones, loll....

Respectfully, then you did not know the full import of Psalm 23, 91, 92 , Jeremiah 7:23 all over the Bible.

Problems are games for us with which we use to show the world that we are better than they are BECAUSE, THE LORD, IS TRULY WITH US!

And He maketh our faces to shine always which is why we sing alway

"Shouts of Joy and Victory Resounds in the Tents of the Righteous of The Lord.

The Lord's right hand
Has done mighty things for us
The Lord's right hand
Is lifted high

The Lord's Right Hand is on High!" Psalm 118:15

From Paul Wilburs "Shalom Jerusalem" Album.

AdventHero:
How long will you limit the mighty works of God in your life through unbelief?

It is not that they do not believe, THEY ARE HAPPY TO MANAGE LIFE AS IT IS, AFTER ALL, ALL OF YOU ARE MANAGING IT.

AND, AS YOU ALL SAY " IT IS NOT THAT BAD"!

SO, YOU MANAGE ON!

LordReed:
When I see that believers have eliminated all the problems in their lives or at least the main ones.

Your operative word is "see".

Unfortunately, very very few Find The Way, hence unless they are in your vicinity, you would not See that they live above all the shitty shits of living in this God Cursed world!

AdventHero:
Gedeon could have chosen to see the vast army of the Midianites as a discouragement to lose FAITH; but rather he looked towards the MIGHTINESS OF GOD as the basis of his belief and not the intimidating numbers of the enemy (problem) before him.

God bless you.

Wrong Answer!

PastorMIsBack:
But it rains on the just and the unjust

That is not the answer.

You people have not yet figured out what "believe" truly means for if you did you would have shown that satanist the remarkable difference between believers and others.

Permit me, potent5, this is too good.

potent5:
In the last day mad people shall roam the world and madness itself shall multiply.

potent5:
In the last day mad people shall roam the world and madness itself shall multiply.

From the book of Madfull 25, verse Many!

MaxInDHouse:
So humble yourself and learn next time...

No reasonable person learns from fools as you have proven to be!

And, if as old as you are, you still can not discern "Right" and "Wrong", then your life is already a waste.

GodIsDead:
Gibberish from a religious loonie. Even if I were enslaved to my body (LOL), at least my body is real...

See! You really took some really bad weed else you would have remembered that you thought and said you were free but now you say "YOU ARE A SLAVE"!

You know nothing boy!

MaxInDHouse:
I never quoted you in the first place so next time know the type of people you should quote when discussing Biblical matters.

You do not need to quote me first before I respond to you. And when an issue has run its course, there is nothing reasonable to further say .

There really is some bad weeed out there.

What a broken crack head thread!

GodIsDead:
Freedom from voluntary self-enslavement to an imaginary tyrant

And yet you are voluntarily self -enslaved to your body, which is also an imaginary tyrant to you.

So you escaped not!

GodIsDead:
.......but did you know there is a SECRET book of John? [google the lost books of the Bible or the gnostic codices found in Nag Hammadi in Egypt]...

You base your presentation on "Secret books, banned gospels" all conveniently suiting the kind of narrative that every God Hater will be joyed to see?

A thief could as well conveniently find a secret book which says "it is law full to steal".

MaxInDHouse:
My friend, you need a Bible study with JWs and the version you should use is the New World Translation of the Watchtower otherwise you will continue to get so many things wrong!

You, who studied with them and represents them have already shown how fatal it is to receive your food.

Even resorting to hitting below belt and resorting to evil pervertions as evident by your statement below.

MaxInDHouse:
Noah was a drunkard! Genesis 9:21

Exactly as Satanist/atheist do when they are unable to provide a valid counter.

Obviously jw and satanist/atheists are one and the same, No difference!

Most especially as every reasonable
person could see that Noah's over excitedness which led to his drunkenness was by reason of his appreciation for God sparing of his life and the life of his family.

No sin here.

MaxInDHouse:
Job accused God wrongly {Job 2:10} so God corrected him that before He (God) created the earth He first created spirit creatures in heaven {Job 38:7} so if anyone should think of someone tempting others with evil Job shouldn't have thought of the One who is Holy! James 1:13

Everyone knows that Job's predicament was indeed very sorely great such that by reason of his unreasonable great pain he was compelled to speak erroneously.

People who steal, lie, pervert Truth, sleep with people's husbands and wives never have any good reason for doing evil.

BUT WE SEE JOB SERIOUSLY STRUGGLING NOT TO DO AN EVIL THING.

So, you have no defence!

MaxInDHouse:
Daniel also has his own flaws that's why God told him that he can't have the understanding of the Sacred Secrets but when the time comes He (God) will dispense His Holy Spirit on imperfect humans and they will be able understand. Daniel 12:8-10
As for Daniel it's only after resurrection that he can understand all the things God revealed to him in symbolic terms! Daniel 12:13

The mere fact that you could not find one flaw already proved how wrong you are, FOR IT IS EVEN COVERED AND VITIATED BY THE FACT THAT AFTER ALL THIS, GOD STILL JUDGED HIM PERFECT.

So, you have nothing valid to say.

As I have always said "Be ye Perfect" is The Law!

Nothing less will do!

We have Noah, Job and Daniel Who The Great Judge had adjudged "Perfect".

Any man who wishes to be like them, has them, can be as they are, if they truly want to.

I'm out!

MaxInDHouse:
"... he is a perfect man, able to bridle also his whole body" James 3:2

"He is a perfect man". And we already have 3 people whom God, Himself called "Perfect" to wit Noah, Job and Daniel.

And their reports clearly show that they indeed bridled their body.

Any man can be like them, if they truly want to.