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TenQ:
In other words, you as a person by default is decided to be unruly, disobedient, and rebellious to your parent so I can understand your position.

This was quite a personal attack, and I deemed it necessary that it be addressed.

I rebel against wickedness and evil, most especially as I grew and saw and learnt that God and Nature was against the bad and evil actions of my parents and older family authorities.

So, armed with this knowledge I rebelled against my family when they sought to do any evil or wicked thing.

And this Rebellion is approved by God as clearly expressed in
Exodus 23:2
"Thou shalt not follow a multitude to do evil;"

And Proverbs 1:10
"My son, if sinners entice thee, CONSENT THOU NOT"!

These and more are the guiding God Issued Laws which permitted my Rebellion.

And Glory be to God, they saw The Truth and bowed to The Supremacy of God's Laws!

emmyileri:
The word of God is not something you used physiological interpretation for, it's spirit with spiritual interpretation

There was no confusion of interpretation when we saw Eve/Adam, Cain, korah and company's, Ananias/wife being Convicted and found guilty of their crimes/sins.

Nay, there was none at all.

Karlovych:
Fairy tales

A Criminal's Wishful Hope!

chatinent:
There is nothing like hell fire.

A Sinners Prayer!

Ola17:
You probably think the world starts and end in your little corner of it. Even with the advent of the internet, there are billions of people today that don’t know what Christianity is.

It is right to say that you can worry about yourself, God certainly knows how He can get to the other billions who do not know Him or Refuse to know Him.

After you too previously did not know Him until One Day, you did!

So also their turn shall come or has come and gone, but it is not truly your concern.

House34:
Why would a loving God punish a single lifetime of sin with endless lifetimes of torture? In HELL FIRE And, among sinners, does an adulterer merit the same punishment as a murderer? And what about the billions of people whose only sin was to follow a different faith?

Did you not hear that God shall judge
1) EVERY word spoken and
2) EVERY doing/non-doing (deed)
3) EVERY thought?

All these things lasted endless lifetimes and Affected other people's endless Lifetimes therefore, the Judgment must be endless lifetimes.

A Lifetime for a Lifetime!

emmyileri:
Questions addressed

You do real-eyes that Confession of Sin is Admission of Crime/Sin, therefore, you are guilty as Charged?

If you are guilty as charged, then are you supposed to enter into the Kingdom of God?

You do know that the Kingdom of God is for the none-guilty and guiltless Right?

TenQ:
Have you ever thought of hurting your parents?
Why not?

Is it not because they are REAL to you as careing and loving to you (in spite of their inadequacies)?

Same here.
God will be TOO REAL to us. It wouldn't require FAITH to Love and Trust Him.

Do you think it is part of your plan to rebel against your parents in the future?

We are not Robots. Our new nature make us effortlessly swing in line with God because our faith is based on a FULL RELATIONSHIP with God

Now your statement is cancelled by the Fact and Truth that, people do rebelled against their parents according to their thinkings. As Esau, Eli's children, Samuel's children, etc proved.

Therefore, your statement here does not stand.

Kholiwe:
Care to explain the bold? Meaning we are now robots?

Yes! We have always been Robots!

Just a robot different from other robots. Like Tesla and other self drive cars (Most Accurately much like the Knight Rider Car )

We are robots (knight Riders) given a special power of "You decide for yourself" among other Gifts and Powers Given, Exactly as Our Creator Said that He Shall So Empower Us With.

That is who we are.

Amotolongbo:
Rules and Regulations are products of human perspective and reasoning of good or bad and their magnitude

Partly True but there is Also the Greater and Higher Rules and Regulation which men came to meet on earth. This part they do not teach in schools.

Wonderz1:
..." God cannot love everybody and then turn around and condemn or destroy them. And fo what? Sexual practices? I think God is certainly above pettiness.

You do know God upholds His Law with No Variation or Waiver.

If The Lord utterly wiped out the people who defiled themselves shall He be biased today?

Nay, Never. The Lord is God of Equity as was done in the case of Ananias and Sapphira.

The Law shall run its course.

Leviticus 18 has Already Told you the sexual Abominations. He who hath an eye to read let him read What The Lord hath Commanded.

Wonderz1:
It really boils down to common sense to understand how the concept sin means. If a Christian Evangelical preacher gives a sermon on God's love for us all and then turns around and gives a sermon damning homosexuals, lesbians and transgenders as the vilest of the vile who will surely go to hell, then he completely misses the point of the makeup of God and the message of Jesus Christ, "Do not judge, lest ye be judged."

We are already going to be Judged, so he definitely can judge.

So the issue is, he is going to get the type and kind of judgement he gave.

If he gave unjust judgement them he will get unjust judgement like that stupid servant whose debts was forgiven and yet he did not let his debtor rest.

Kholiwe:
Because they acted on their freewill.

Hence Prove of Freewill!

Kholiwe:
Just out of curiosity is there freewill in heaven?

Did you not read that "Where the Spirit is, there is Liberty?"

illicit:
U and religion don't have any point

Another Atheists Falters! Fall of Ad hominem Again!

Yet you people claimed to be reasonable and logical!

What a Shiny Shame!

maynia:
Jargons coming from a mad dog.
Why did you quote me, sheep.

Now the Fallacy of Ad hominem flies in!

Yet you people claimed to be reasonable and logical!

What a Laughing Shame!

maynia:
The owners are doing a great job.
Stupid countries deceiving us with prosperity that we can see not deceiving us with after life. Go check the most religious countries in the world and tell us what they are deceiving us with apart from poverty

It is your satanic/atheists brothers who did all of the deceivings you are complaining about. So go cry to them.

Myer:
Atheists are not sworn to abide by any rules to make heaven. Christians and Muslims are.

As a Muslim or Christian, you should practise what you preach.

In other words Anti-God's are Law Breakers, Criminals having No Respect For Law, Natural Justice, Equity and Fairness.

Exactly as Satan.

Which is why I have Always Said. that all atheists are Anti-Law (for the Law is God Also) and therefore full time Satanist and Evil souls.

Criminals, every one of them.

WHICH IS THE REASON THEY HATE GOD, EXACTLY AS ALL CRIMINALS HATE THE LAW!

Thanks for your confession of Satanist/Atheist Creed!

illicit:
All those ones are recreational

Religion is pointless

NOW YOU SHIFTED POST! For you said "religion is not needed in any way, (because) it creates division"

So now I have shown you the other things which you religiously do which also brings division and now you are chewing your mouth.

You guys do not have any valid reason to be Antj-God OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN FOR YOURSELVES THAT GOD DOES NOT LISTEN TO YOU PEOPLE NOT WOULD HE EVER HEAR YOUR PRAYERS.

That is why you guys have turned to Anti-God as your usual follow-follow selves have followed those evil people whom God had foretold that where coming to destroy you all.

The same follow-folllow which you did when you thought you were Christians whereas you were following foolishly and wrongly.

maynia:
You just talking gibberish.
You are not educated at all. Serving me a dose by being obtuse?

That is what dosage means! Wisdom attracts the wise and repelled the foolish.

That is what The Owner of this world has done and no man can change it.

maynia:
If you are educated you’ll know in some countries atheism is a very big force But Christianity has brainwashed you. Serving me a dose by being uneducated??

You have to do better.
How many people are in china?
How many people are in the whole Africa wallowing in religion and poverty? Brainless sheep

CHANGE OF POST! We are talking about how crazy you atheists are AND NOT ABOUT TGE THE STUPID COUNTRIES WHO DECEIVE YOU WITH THEIR "SHOW OF PROSPERITY AND SELF ACCOMPLISHMENT", EXACTLY THE WAY THE RICH USE TO STEAL FROM THE POOR!

maynia:
you are living under a rock.
See statement from dumb sheep.

It's crazy how insane and imbalanced you people are. When you were going against God Followership especially Christians and the Bible, you had a swell, now a single dose of your medicine has been served back to you and now you are shouting.

You people are quite mad and should be thrown into psychiatric hospitals.

illicit:
There are powers in this world but religion is not needed in any way, it creates division

Football, Food, Money, Houses also divides people, so should they be cast out?

thesicilian:
A true Christian or Muslim would respect other people's choice of life whether it makes sense or not.

But you do not say this to the atheists here when they come against others who believe God and bible.

Truvelisback:
When was the last time u sang a gospel song in ur dream? Or when was the last time u woke up with a gospel song?

Yesterday!

I have it very regularly. Infact it is based on the leading of the song that I use as my worship using songs of similar spirit and pattern.

And for me, it is not a dream but my soul singing and singing through the night or day or any time it comes forth

Workch:
I am telling you the claim of the Flying Spaghetti Monster Which says he created Yahweh.

It’s true because it cannot be disproven.

Na you get your mouth!

Nothingserious:
Aptly put. God bless you.

“For God's [holy] wrath and indignation are revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who in their wickedness repress and hinder the truth and make it inoperative.

For that which is known about God is evident to them and made plain in their inner consciousness, because God [Himself] has shown it to them.

For ever since the creation of the world His invisible nature and attributes, that is, His eternal power and divinity, have been made intelligible and clearly discernible in and through the things that have been made (His handiworks).

So [men] are without excuse [altogether without any defense or justification], [Ps. 19: 1-4.] Because when they knew and recognized Him as God, they did not honor and glorify Him as God or give Him thanks. But instead they became futile and godless in their thinking [with vain imaginings, foolish reasoning, and stupid speculations] and their senseless minds were darkened.

Claiming to be wise, they became fools [professing to be smart, they made simpletons of themselves].”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭1:18-22‬ ‭AMPC‬‬
https://www.bible.com/8/rom.1.18-22.ampc

And so it is.

juri:
You also said the curse is on any lawyer who breaks the law of justice, I agree, but so too for any body, whether a doctor in the operation theater, a sports official etc.

No, sir, WE HAVE IT WORSE!

WHY?

BECAUSE IN TRUTH AND DEED WE HAVE THE MIND OF GOD!

LAW IS GOD.

AND LAWYERS WORK FROM GOD'S OFFICE DIRECTLY (WHICH IS WHY AS I AM CERTAIN YOU HAVE SEEN, WE ARE AUTOMATICALLY FEARED). LIKE MOSES AND THE PROPHETS.

SO, IMAGINE GOD'S OFFICER DOING WRONG IN AND THROUGH GOD'S OFFICE?

I THINK THE SAME PUNISHMENT WHICH FELL ON SATAN AND GOD'S ANGELS SHALL FALL ON US.

juri:
The point I was trying to make was simply that the Bible provision quoted was not to mean the profession of Lawyers as we now have today, but rather the Pharisees etc who were at the time, custodians of the law of God and were supposed to teach the people. Just even read to the end. It says, in summary, that they do not enter heaven, yet prevent others from entering. How can you say in our modern time that lawyers, singularly as a profession, prevent people from entering heaven. In fact, the set of people in our present day who may debatably come close to the description in the verse of the Bible quoted, will be pastors, bishops, etc: religious leaders. But this is even by the way and not the point of this write up.

The examples here are simply just examples so let us not start another argument or make a storm out of a tea cup. But I am sure you have fully understood the point I was trying to make. Thank you.

I respectfully do hear your point but I humbly disagree with you, for we are guilty of preventing people from going to God by not UPHOLDING ALWAYS THE RIGHTFULLNESS OF THE LAW TO THE DISGRACE, SHAME AND CONDEMNATION OF ALL EVIL.

However, I retreat respectfully for I do not allege that you are as a Pharisee Laywer nor is this the proper place to have such contention. Thank you.

Workch:
Exactly, that’s why i cannot disprove that Flying Spaghetti Monster created Christian god

It seem true to me since it has not been disproven

You are the one fighting with yourself! I am just here for your show!

Workch:
Everyone have myopic knowledge and understanding.

Including you! so, normal!

[quote author=Workch post=107351632[
We will soon get to that stage when we can test that the Flying Spaghetti Monster created the Christian god as we improve our understanding of the universe.[/quote] Yeah! Like the test carried out by a certain Corolla to see the Camry created the Prado, to improve our understanding of the driving environment!

haddeylium:
Many people received blood transfusion and still died.

Many have also received drugs and died but you do not deprive yourselves of it.

Also on flip side is that many people have received blood transfusions and lived.

Well, it is a thing of personal rights.

Workch:
The Flying Spaghetti Monster created the Christian god and we cannot test it with the current tool at our disposal.

It’s either you accept that or you develop a tool to disprove it.

Everyone can say anything, including the insane, BUT TIME HAS ALWAYS BEEN A SURE KILLER OF LIES!

Nothingserious:
Abeg don’t mind the guy with his circular arguments.
Lol

He and all of them if not properly cut down will Move all over the world.

No one is asking them to depart from their foolishness but they must they always attack us.

Surely, they do not want to die alone and they think that they can be safe from God's judgement, if others join them.