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Workch:
TOYOTA COMPANY TO PAY $180MILLION..

This is the case of EPA (creation, human) vs. TOYOTA MOTOR COMPANY (another creation, human) =Human vs. Human fight.

Not Corrolla vs. Toyoda fight!

[quote author=Workch post=107293474][/quote]This is the case of EPA (creation human) vs. TOYOTA MOTOR COMPANY (another creation, human)

Human vs. Human fight.

Not Corrolla vs. Toyoda fight!

Workch:
5. Tu quoque (whatabaoutism)
E.g. Science is also based on beliefs, hypothesis are made from beliefs.

Logical position: Whether or not science is based on beliefs, it’s not evidence that a god exist. (Budatum committed this fallacy not too long ago.)

6. Special pleading fallacy
E.g. According to the cause and effect law, everything must have a cause including the universe, hence the ultimate cause must be god.

Logical position: WHY must the cause be your god and who created your god? If your god cannot be created then why can’t the universe also exist without a creator? Why must you special plead your god from the law.

"WHY" - THE FALL OF CHANGE OF ARGUMENT/POST.

THE QUESTION IS PROOF OF GOD/CREATOR AND NOT WHICH GOD/CREATOR! - Foul of CHANGE OF POST!

WHAT DO YOU THINK THE LAWS OF LOGIC AND FALLS AKA 'FALLACY' ARE MEANT TO DO AND ACHIEVE?

ANSWER= THE PROTECTION AND SAFEGUARDING OF NATURE AND NATURAL TRUTHS.

LOGIC IS THE POLICE/CUSTOMS & IMMIGRATION/NAFDAC/NDLEA/EFCC OF TRUTH

They do not teach that in textbooks in school ONLY PROFESSIONALS LEARN IT.

Workch:
9. Fallacy of faulty equivalence
E.g. If a car can have a creator then the universe must have a creator which is god.

Fault- Presence of reasonable defect.

Unfaulty Equivalence is NO FALLACY.

Workch:
Logical position: We know the producers of cars, we know the factories, we know the engineers, we can meet them physically and we can even sue them if they make faulty cars. This cannot be applied to your god, it’s a faulty equivalence. We cannot sue your god for making cancer cells or earthquakes.
Dtruthspeaker is fond of this fallacy.

NATURE'S, NATURALTRUTH!

EVER SEEN A CREATION OR PRODUCT COMPLAIN OR SUE ITS MANUFACTURER?

Did the Camry sue Mr Toyoda or the laptop, Samsung?

No! Nada! Never! 'Impossibe'. NATURE SAYS!

Gointo:
Hello, I know you believe in God, but you've been envelop by  bitterness about what is happening in your life and around you .
There is  a lot of things you are ignorant of.. But ye refuses to hear and believe the truth, but love and maketh a lie.
Now listen, THE WORD YOU REFUSE TO BELIEVE, THE SAME WORD WILL JUDGE YOU.

REPENT FROM YOUR INIQUITY NOW. AND SURRENDER YOUR LIFE TO HIM WHO LAY THE FOUNDATION OF THE EARTH, SURRENDER NOW TO CHRIST.
IT IS WRITTEN, WORSHIP THE LORD YOUR GOD, AND SERVE HIM ONLY.

Brother, remember rejected and sacked personnel must always be disgruntled and spiteful, so let them mourn their loss as best as they can get.

Dliquidmetal:
Nothing to see here,bucket of turd as usual.

Truth is Truth, regardless of your personal disposition towards it.

2metrelaurie:
You are the only lier here
Let's compare Nigeria , Brazil to Japan and china

Brazil is religious Catholic, Japan is religious Traditional, so they do not fall into what you may call "irreligious".

So no ground here.

Look at the corruption here, you unjustly calling me a Liar even as your first comment to me, now is this corruption of injustice coming from the dictates of whatever religion you may practice or simply because YOU ARE A CORRUPT PERSON?

But there is Only One religion which instructs you to be corrupt and unjust. The Religion of the flesh/world/Satanism and obviously you are a member of that religion.

Depending on who You is.

God is Good to the You who does the Good and evill follows the You who is wicked and evil. That's all!

paulolee:
she said dey av used d glory of her two kids.....dts pure insanity na

She first said "she can no longer take care of the two children" and then added this second reason which is normal in such communities.

Jacobx007:
I suspect insanity

It is not. She disclosed why she did it and the reason connects with the crime.

An unbelievable truth can hurt a man much more than a lie.

It takes great courage to back truth Unacceptable To Our Times.

There's a punishment for it, AND IT'S USUALLY CRUCIFIXION. - John Steinbeck

topshore:
Scripture Text: Romans 1:18

The revelation of truth came in Jesus Christ! He said, "I am the truth." Truth cannot contain any lies, deception or anything that does not have its source in God! Truth is not truth when separated from the Spirit, for everything without the Spirit leads to death. Doctrines not embedded in Truth are not of God. When truth is received in the carnal mind of man, such mind cannot receive spiritual realities (1 Cor. 2:14), it remains in the death realm. We need truth to reveal the counterfeit! Jesus Christ is our statement of truth! His mind did not receive any lies. It was always focused on the Father and on obedience to the Father's decrees. He only did what the Father showed Him to do. This is the mind that we have received in Christ.

The suppression or putting down of truth takes place when ungodliness and unrighteousness emerge as truth - when truth is used to stimulate the appetite for unrighteousness. Unrighteousness is everything that is not God’s righteousness, everything that is not right in His eyes, and everything that does not have its source in Him! Godliness has to do with who God is; righteousness has to do with what God does and everything that is against the essence of God is sin. He is the One who declares what is right. Only what is right in God's eyes counts - not what is right in our eyes! This is basic to understanding the gospel.
We do not have the ability to decide what righteousness is; we can only agree with God's definition of righteousness. If we disagree with Him, we are not believing God. God's definition does not compute with our natural mind. That is why humanity suppresses the truth in unrighteousness. The Greek word for suppress, "katecho”, literally means to hold down, to restrain or to hinder. If we do not receive truth, we are suppressing it! It's as simple as that.

Disobedience is a suppression of truth. When God's righteousness is revealed to us, but we refuse to receive it, we suppress truth. This is the devil's opportunity to present us with more lies. The natural mind receives them, and more ungodliness and unrighteousness occur. This picture the heart of unregenerate man throughout history. The Scripture states that God's wrath is against the unrighteousness in men – it is not talking about the devil and evil spirits. Blaming the devil is a cop-out. For example, when Adam and Eve acted on the devil's advice, they received his mind of lies and deception. Although Eve was the one deceived but by acting on Eve’s deception instead of obeying God, Adam suppressed the truth.

Those who suppress the truth may experience the wrath of God on their ungodly attitudes and actions. When we refuse to listen to God, His wrath will allow us to experience the tragic results of our disobedience! Once we come to the end of our vanity and self-effort, and cry out to God, God will hear us. But before we will turn to God and accept His wonderful salvation, we must be convinced of our need. We need to acknowledge that our own ideas do not work, and that we cannot experience peace and happiness without God. Since the natural mind cannot understand spiritual realities, it follows that man cannot come to God of his own volition. God needs to open our blind eyes to see the grace of God and His love. Only then can we receive from God.

God is love, so everything He does is prompted by love. His judgments are prompted by love, for they are to lead people out of the deception of carnal thinking. Even His wrath is prompted by love, for it is designed to help people realize their need for a Saviour. God's goal for humanity is that it be created in His image! When His image is formed in us, Christ will be revealed to the world.
Our high calling in Christ Jesus is to reveal Truth (Christ) in righteousness and glory to God for His intervention in our lives, and His ability to transform us into His likeness through Christ.

If you would like to receive and reveal the Truth- Christ into your live, say this short prayer:
“Lord Jesus, I come to You today, come into my life, take control of my life and change my world, in Your name I pray, amen”.

Congratulations!!!

God bless you.

Peace!

The Good Seed.

See, how many Truth Lovers have Come to Honour these Beautiful words?

Nonetheless, The Right Hand of The Lord is Exalted. The Right doeth Valiantly. The Right Hand of The Lord is Exalted.

And His Truths Rules Forever!

Bacteriologist:
Most who resort to piss poor apologetics are those who have something or the other to gain from religion. Also, they are those who esteem their indoctrination, ego, and stomach above what is actually true.

Losing my religion, had consequences, but they were not so dire. I was a successful instrumentalist in my church, I had posts and would like be a minister by now if I didn't cared about the sincerity of my beliefs. It hurt me to lose those things, to find out I had invested so much into Christianity that turned out to be a false religion, but I knew I was only 21, there was plenty of time to redeem the losses. I still struggle with some of the mistakes I made as a result of placing my faith above everything else, but generally things are looking up.

I believe the same is the case for some of these people as well but the consequences may be different. They simply are incapable (they can't afford it) of seeing the ills in their religion. Because their ego, indoctrination, family ties, financial needs, investments whatever prevents them from seeing it.

I think it all boils down to your core values. Do you care in believing what's right according to the evidence OVER what your family believes/what brings food to your table/what gives you purpose/what you were taught since you were a kid?

I think that's what differentiates the dishonest engagers in this forum from the relatively honest ones.

AS I HAVE ALWAYS SAID, 98% SATANISTS/HATERS OF GOD/ATHEISTS ARE FORMER CHURCH GOERS WHO THOUGHT GOD WAS THEIR WISH GRANTER!

And The Only Reason Why You All BECAME THESE SPECIES OF EVIL IS BECAUSE YOU WERE EVIL SEEDS ALREADY

IT ONLY TOOK A MATTER OF TIME FOR YOU PEOPLE TO SEE THAT YOU LOVE BEING WICKED AND EVIL.

SO, GOD'S REJECTION OF YOU PEOPLE JUST MADE YOU MORE EVIL.

THAT IS THE SUMMARY OF YOUR LIVES.

AND YOU ALL NOW SEE THE DEATH AND CONDEMNATION WHICH YOU DID NOT BELIEVE AT FIRST BUT NOW THAT YOU SEE IT, YOU DO NOT WANT TO DIE ALONE.

LIKE SATAN YOU WANT TO TAKE AS MANY AS CAN WITH YOU.

That is the problem you have with me.

Facts (Truths) are threatening to those invested in fraud. - DaShanne Stokes

Dliquidmetal:
Wow!!! It took a lot of sacrifices,that explains why this "Thedishonestspeaker" cant afford to reason beyond his indoctrination.....I would do myself well by not engaging in further exchanges with him henceforth cause it's pointless really because I've been there myself.

See it? You all complain about the badness and evils of the world BUT YOU ARE THE VERY ONES DOING IT!

YOU ARE ALL JUST MURDERING ME, EXACTLY THE WAY THE EVIL PHARISEES MURDERED CHRIST BECAUSE HE CALLED THEM EVIL AND SHOWED THEM THEIR EVILS, AS I DO NOW.

Workch:
He is not just indoctrinated, he’s stupid as well.
You can see how is struggling to get attention here so he can have a never ending argument.

I’m glad everyone is avoiding the fool

If it's attention I wanted you have all given it to me, so mission accomplished.

triplechoice:
Religion really has nothing to do with why some countries are more corrupt than others. It may appear so to you, but it is not what it seems.

Poverty and the level of literacy is to be blamed. If religion is banned in Nigeria , it wouldn't result in less corruption or make people start to reason rationally

As long as poverty still remains and there is no access to good quality education, people will do anything to survive or behave the way they like. It is like a war situation where people will do anything to eat anything and drink anything to stay alive.

If poverty becomes endemic in those countries you mentioned, corruption will start to reign over there.

Eradicating religion is not the solution. I can't find anywhere in the Koran or Bible where adherents are advised to embrace corruption or behave irresponsibly.

It all boils down to the people practicing those religion.

It all boils down to whatever the people choose to do at any particular point in time.

To think that the Bible expressly prohibits adultery, fornication, incest yet people sleep with other people's spouses and children and close family members.

Nations Laws Prohibit Crimes yet those nations allow the offenders to escape punishment.

Yet,these Satanist, who are the primary doers of these evil things, refuse to consider this and rather seek to heap the blame squarely on the practice (religion) of Respecting and Honouring God.

Workch:
Yeah, I have also adopted that strategy.
Avoid a mad man when you see one.

That is reasonable since you wish to sell Lies which you foolishly thought was TRUE but having been Whooped out of The Truth Hall of Fame in Shame, Disgrace and Failure, You have to Stay Silent, in the dark, as you plot the destruction of other men.

Dliquidmetal:
I hope they do heal,imagine going through life from infancy till six feet below with a veil on your face........Living all days of ones life in shackles and also fighting anyone who offers to unshackle and unveil..such a pitiable way to live.

ANYONE WITH A VEIL CAN NEVER WALK CONFIDENTLY. THEY SHALL CRASH INTO OBJECTS AND WOUND THEMSELVES BADLY AS YOU HAVE SEEN IN WOMEN WHO WEAR VEILS DURING WHITE WEDDINGS..

Bacteriologist:
You will never catch me responding to him. Him and his type have proven countless times that it is a total waste of effort and time trying to reason with them.

Religion is a mental virus.

Religion or no religion it is impossible to Argue Against The Truth.

Like someone arguing that Lagos does not have Traffic or that men do not get pregnant.

There is No Valid Argument Anywhere, Anytime, Against The Truth.

So of course it is reasonable for you to stay silent rather than BE PUT TO SHAME BECAUSE YOU FOOLISHLY THOUGHT YOU WERE RIGHT!

sonmvayina:
Dtruthspeaker..thus did not come from my fingers..

I promise to pay for your treatment.

My offer still stands..

Sure, it did not come directly from your fingers but they are your clones. Therefore, you are the same save that you are in Truth an Insane Person with Lucid moments but they are just plain evil wicked souls as you are.

That is all.

Dliquidmetal:
I always see your comments all over this forum and to be honest you come off as a very dishonest and delusional human being.
In full glare of verifiable evidences you would always pride yourself in blissful ignorance or maybe denial. I hope you heal one day,before your love for the illusion in which you live in gets the better of you.

Dishonesty is always in darkness, yet I declare everything I say in the plain sight for all to see and justly measure and rightly judge.

So how is it you Falsely Accuse me of being dishonest when I have set myself up to EXAMINED?

Are you that fully Pro-Wickedness that it impossible for me to get " A Fair and Just" judgement from you?

Yet, you complain about the injustice of the world, but here you are giving the same injustice you complain of.

"In full glare of verifiable evidences"- Show me one case in which a Truth, which is known in every Nation and people, to be True in Nature and Natural Living, which I have said, is not True?

Can Anyone Argue that Lagos does not have Traffic or that men get pregnant? Only evils like you people do so by bending other truths so as to make it appear that you say that "men can get pregnant and there is no traffic in Lagos" WHICH OF COURSE IS A MIGHTY BIG LIE!

So you can not reasonably justify your accusation against me at all.

You just seek to villify me because I reasonably show the world how you people are Lying and WHAT THE IRREFUTABLE TRUTH IS.

AND YOUR PROBLEM IS SIMPLY BECAUSE NONE OF YOU CAN REASONABLY AND PROPERLY REBUT THE TRUTH WHEN I PRESENT IT.

AND THAT IS BECAUSE IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO REASONABLY ARGUE AGAINST THE TRUTH. THAT IS WHAT GOD HAS DONE

which is my Signature Pronounces The Law which States "THERE IS NO VALID ARGUMENT AGAINST THE TRUTH".

So it is not me whom you Fight, IT IS AGAINST GOD HIMSELF!

Dliquidmetal:
An almost risk free business with mad ROI damn! But I no do,I'd rather make my crumbs and drink water and mind my business

Why na? You go dey popular, you go buy Jet, all the miss universe go dey warm your bed (abi na guy you dey do?)

e profit you na.

A001:
Dliespeaker on the beat... Nairaland's greatest hypocrite!

Translation! "Dtruthspeaker can dey burst our Lie and no dey let us enjoy am make we use am dey kill stupid people"

Workch:
Lol, a business where those you scam will even defend you. Even the law got your back

Damn

Yes, that is get when you tell God to leave you Alone.

So commit crimes, you might not get a prison cell as Hushpuppi who thought the same too.

Dliquidmetal:
it's mostly cause of hypocrisy and to me religion is a tool that humans created for their own benefits but majority of present day humans aren't even enlightened enough to see through this grand delusion.
Christian's for examples are very good when it comes to picking different parts of their "unholy book" that's suits/justifies whatever bullshit they did or about to do.
Religion isnt really a scam,its simply a tool in my own perspective,that's why Nigeria is the way it is lol the more religois we we claim to be the more we would be manipulated and oppressed by our leaders cause they know this things to the core. Many of them are closet atheists but outside they feign religious lmao just to keep enriching themselves and continuously basking in the euphoria of being powerful.

You are describing what people like you love doing and they truly do no matter what Cloak they wear.

Church goers are not the Same as Christians.

Christians will not commit crimes, church goers will.

And it is the way of church goers and you alike to learn new ways of living dishonesty and Fraudulently exactly as you and Workch are now planning on doing.

It has nothing to do with Christ nor His Followers.

Workch:
Surprising as it may seem, countries that are less religious actually tend to be less corrupt and have lower murder rates than religious ones.

"less corrupt and lower murder rates".

That is why you people are blind and do not see very well not think properly.

Scattered scrambled thoughts makes a person blind.

You thought started with "social cohesion" and "public morality" then you abandoned it and went on to corruption and murder rates.

That is exactly how insane people think also

Workch:
Surprising as it may seem, countries that are less religious actually tend to be less corrupt and have lower murder rates than religious ones.

Meanwhile, since these countries became irreligious, Crimes Massively And Grossly Increased as Reported by their own media channels and Crime Experts.

So once again, you Lie.

....

Workch:
Some religious conservatives warn that the retreat from faith will lead to a collapse of social cohesion and public morality, the evidence doesn’t support this claim. Surprising as it may seem, countries that are less religious actually tend to be less corrupt and have lower murder rates than religious ones.

Aha! See this man O? It is proven True Already!

Social cohesion is broken down completely. The Family Unit is Destroyed. Husbands and wives do not relate well, Divorce is up and up.

Morality is murdered! Where in the past you got helped without a charge now you pay for any help. Where in the past people would kindly lead you aright joking that they would lead you into trouble, today, one can not trust people's kindness.

Evil and wickedness is popular and easily done these days than in the past.

So, as Usual, you are Wrong!

The Prediction came through today eg
https://www.nairaland.com/6812077/why-support-fraud (Promotion of immorality)

https://www.nairaland.com/6823533/after-eviction-brother-in-law-imo-court (Family Destruction)

https://www.nairaland.com/6814346/wife-refused-swear-she-does (Marriage Destruction)

A001:
So says a programmed bot that exists on Nairaland and has no life beyond this platform. Lols.

Wow, so there is someone here who does not know that it is humans who are in social media ? illiterate schoolist!

Simple: Because, the Best Frauds and the most success full Deception Are Best Commited by People who Appear to have no problems.

So these Satanist have to Appear to have "Good" houses to maintain the Fraud and Deceits they sell!

From the Book, How to Con the Simple and Stupid.101

A001:
That means there are no Christians in Nigerians then, Dliespeaker.

Most Christians in this country exhibit those traits the renowned poet mentioned.

Have you met everyone in Nigeria to know this for a Truth?

However, I believe you may have met one or two of them, whom you HATE and call goody-goody, laying and setting wicked wicked traps for them to fall and rejoicing when they appear to you that they have fallen but you are once again angry, even Angrier and Much More Hate full when they do not Fall.

I believe in Truth, if there is any Truth remaining in you, you know at least 2.

chukwunweikeemi:
It is impossible to be a christian today and not be a christian tomorrow.Maybe the Op wanted to say he used to attend church.

Oh brother, Tell them! Tell them!

It is impossible to be A Christian AND CHANGE!

IT IS ALWAYS CHURCH VISITORS WHO ARE GOING THERE AS THEIR NEW BABALAWO SHRINE.

And they are the same one who always change babalawos because the babalawo does not have POWER.

Upto even making themselves their own gods.

chukwunweikeemi:
By the way I perceive so much hate in his write_up and I have no words to comfort him but to say we christians serve an authoritative God and so the Holy Bible is also an authoritative book that stand on its own. The Bible steps on everybody's toes and God makes no apologies for it.

O Sweet.

God Whips and Thrashes the wicked and evil whoever they might be and wherever they might be, UNFAILINGLY.

And rather than change, they sulk complaining about The Laws and the whips they got while still plotting another evil which they think that God would not See.