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simigold:
Look man, don't listen to all the negative advices,if you've got the will and power to help, pls go ahead, afterall you help those you are not entangled to. Learn to forgive and move on. The only revenge to heartbreak is to be successful and point it out.

Those who are not entangled is better than this old tanglements. He is already successful and she now asked him so there is no revenge in hissing and shouting at her that she should never call him even if she iis bleeding from a gunshot wound 3 houses from his house.

Kobicove:
I don't see anything wrong in helping her if it's within your capacity(No strings attached).

Who does not know that giving her is a string?

Despair means that you are not yet with God and that God is not yet with you. So this one does not enter

I thought the presumption you had in mind is the one where people presume that they are children of God because they have said those words pastor told them to say.

SpyMaster1, This guys threads are for you but as usual, you wont heed it

Topic: THE BATTLES YOU MUST WIN (99)
THE GATE OF A SOFTENED HEART — OVERCOMING IMPENITENCE IN CHRIST

[b]Impenitence is the hardened state of a heart that refuses to repent, even when confronted with truth. It resists correction, ignores conviction, [/b]and gradually shuts the door to God’s mercy.

And this is what destroys every atheists, church goers and anyone who refuses to learn that God Rules and that His Will will always be done

SkengRay:
But still One must Love and Forgive as the Father in Heaven does. Jesus Christ is enough to fix her bro abi na .

See all the time wey don pass she don fix herself? No
Woman no dey fix herself and so Jay Cee dey free.
And even if she dey fixed, still run

SkengRay:
Haba Amigo. This isn't Fair, is This the empathy and Compassion Jesus Taught you?

Ah bros, you are falling for the devus trap oo. All this bush baby wailing is because men real eyes that women have been making their lives very bad. And now that they are running from them, they are pulling and calling you to come back to them with all these pity parade. Don't listen to them oo, you would still regret it again and you would still be the one crying

merrymike47:
Guy that is your truth and not mine, you truth is not my business. Whether Satan impregnated Eve or not, just make sure to make heaven, just so Satan won't flog the hell out of you for wrong allegations when you meet it in hell.

Gee, it is not my Truth, it is the Truth directly seen in the bible, which has been re presented to you for you to see, and you saw it and you can not make any reasonable and valid opposition against it.

So, it stands and you can rest now as I wait to see if any other person can bring a better case against it.

Another sob story for men to pity and fall into devu hand

merrymike47:
I just hope you know that you are here saying trash. Everything you are putting together ain't making no sense. Trust me, if you are making any sense, if at all, I can be interested. But obviously, it's not like you'll make any sense on this
matter.

As I said before, if you truly had any valid objection, you would have stated it.

So you are only attacking me and not the argument (ad hominem fallacy) which is clear proof that you never had any reasonable opposition in the first place and you are just wailing in denial because you don't want to accept the Truth placed before you which you cannot argue against.

SpyMaster1:
Calling it “bias” or “prejudice” whenever someone looks at language, dating, and historical context is just a way to dismiss evidence you don’t like. Anonymous writing and later titles were common in the ancient world that’s why scholars apply the same standards to Ecclesiastes, the Gospels, and many other ancient books. It’s not special hatred for the Bible; it’s consistent method.
But let’s focus on the content, since that’s what you want.
You keep saying the main point of Ecclesiastes is “the futility of going against God” and that the Preacher is confessing his failure and defeat. But the text itself does not say that.

The Preacher spends the vast majority of the book saying “Vanity of vanities, all is vanity” not “I tried to remove God from my life and failed.” He describes how pleasure, wisdom, wealth, work, and even righteousness all feel empty because death levels everyone, injustice continues, and life under the sun feels like chasing wind. He questions the afterlife with real doubt.
That deep skepticism and sense of meaninglessness is what I find honest not a special “depression of God-rebellers.” Many people, believers and non-believers alike, recognize that life really can feel futile when you look at it without forcing comforting answers onto it.

Christians may find comfort in other parts of the Bible and believe death leads to a better world. That’s fine for you. But Ecclesiastes itself does not offer that comfort for most of its pages. It stares at the vanity and finality of life “under the sun” and mostly leaves it there.
I’m not in denial. I’m comfortable with the possibility that the Preacher was right for most of the book: everything under the sun really is vanity, and there may be no grand divine plan or better world waiting after death. That doesn’t make me “anti-God.” It makes me honest about what the text actually emphasizes.!

You atheists never real eyes that all atheism is fuelled by bias and prejudice which you have exhibited all through this thread. And that is why rather than present a reasonable counter you chose to resort to the fallacy of over generalisation in an attempt to defend yourself.

As i said when bias people are looking for a fallt, they would use anything to say that it is flawed.

And to the issue, you are just repeating yourself as you have said all these before and i have answered is it until a book says that it is a confession before you know that it is a confession?

And your denial is even more funny as the writer makes several confessions for you to infer eg

"I said in mine heart, Go to now, I will prove thee with mirth, therefore enjoy pleasure.

I builded me houses; I planted me vineyards:

7 I got me servants and maidens, and had servants born in my house;

10 And whatsoever mine eyes desired I kept not from them, I withheld not my heart from any joy;

And everything you have said now, you have said before which is the proof of bias as you refuse to accept that there is a thing called inference against statements made in a document or book.

Which is why even in English comprehension, after we were given a story, we were asked "what is theme/subject matter of the story?" Eg. The Concubine by Elechi Amadi, is even a story about a woman, and the men in her life, yet every reasonable person infers that the story is about how certain women are cusd and the form the cus takes shape.

And every one who went to school learnt to apply inference to every document but here you are refusing and dodging the inference of Ecclesiastes and choosing to rely solely on the strict and literal interpretation.

That is the clear case of confirmation bias, a thing which every atheists and anti God person must do, as you can not be comfortable with any pro God information.

merrymike47:
you've lost it bro, you are not redeemable. Everything you wrote isn't logical, not even making any sense. Just rest okay?

If it is not logical why did you not pointed out the illogicality?

This is clearly denial speaking for you got the point that Satan had sex with Eve, so you asked if
he then "raped" or had sex with Adam right? Because Adam ate the fruit too.".

And now I have shown you that the Bible expressly shows that Satan gave it to eve and it is eve who gave it to male Adam.

Hence, when God came, the case moved backwards that is from male Adam where it ended, male Adam blamed female Adam and then female Adam in turn blamed Satan.

And, now you are wailing in denial because you don't want to accept the Truth.

merrymike47:
you will need DNA to back your claim and Satan might eventually sue you for blacmail . Una go just dey una house, dey use conspiracy theory deceive d gullible people wey no fit think with their own cerebrum. Oya make your claim make sense, so after Satan had sex with Eve, he then proceeded to raping Adam right? Because Adam ate the fruit too.

Paternity frauds have always been proven even before dna was found, so i ready make Satan sue me. But hin no fit as hin no say na true i talk. All the evidence point to him, so hin no fit talk.

So, go and read it again. Satan no touch male Adam.

But if you pay attention you would see that the Bible said it was female Adam who gave male Adam to eat it, and he ate it

...and GAVE also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.

Further, read and see what the Bible reported about Eve's own eating.

And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat,

See the word "she took". Not she plucked

Which means from whom was she TAKING it from?

Which means who was GIVING it to her since she was not plucking it? (And from male Adam's own situation we can see that fruit is something which is given)

Oya, answer na.

Do we not say a child will be whatever he wants to be after all the programming and control parents put on their children?

Programming only works because the person agrees with the programme..

Plus, even all these you are saying it is clear that you have been programmed to say, so how are you different from those whom you are condemning and who accept a programme that they have been given?

So, see, another rubbish post

I like the way this guy throws the question people fail to ask

VinnyBaba:
The OP is clearly RIGHT.

Very Right thinking Person knows This.

Only Church fanatics and Dullards will disagree.

The Way God Punished Adam and Eve is way TOO SEVERE for a sin of eating Fruits.

Again, why will 2 persons eat Fruit and run to cover their Genitals when they heard God is coming?

Besides, there is no other thing having those same signs that make the forbidden fruit not sex.

Look at it, sex is the only thing and place where we have restriction.

But the only thing that we are not allowed to do is to have sex.

The Commandment even Said "Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

And it is in sex that we tell our liitle children as they are growing "Do not let anybody touch you ooh"

It is in sex we say "no dey touch my pikin like dat/i no like how you dey touch me"

It is in sex and for sex that you will hear women say "if you touch me, you go die"

It is in sex that touching is also cheating in marriage.

More signs are in her
https://www.nairaland.com/7947204/truly-forbidden-fruit-sex#127583663

RealityKings1:
If the account isn't mythological, it's impossible for Satan to bring himself low to mate with a low category.

Eve was made out of Adam, who according to the story was made out of clay.
Satan existed before Adam and was more intelligent. If he was intelligent and knew his place, he wouldn't touch or interact with a lower entity. Rather he will instruct.

What delu. Who did you think told the angels of God to go down and have sex with women that they are sweet?

How would he have convinced them if he himself had not already made himself low?

You better change your name to delushornking. ..ooh i get it, its an irony

merrymike47:
No version of the bible says Satan had sex with Eve, no interpretation of the bible says Satan had sex with Eve. Satan only used the serpent to deceive Eve into eating the forbidden fruit. It could have been any other animal but it was the serpent due to the fact that it is subtle.

All that mattered was that the subtle serpent was used to deceive the woman (Eve) to eat the forbidden fruit in the guise of helping her.

Lesson: Be careful of the help that is coming from subtle people, it could be a danger in disguise.

But all versions give you the facts for you to infer.

Then, Mathew 7:16, John 8:44, Genesis 1:11 all show that a murderer must give birth to a murderer.

Adam never murdered anyone but Satan murdered them

And Satan was seen with female Adam.

Clearly, by virtue of the above scriptures, Satan (the murdrer) is the father of Cain, the murderer.

And all versions show this

ZoeInspirations:
This particular topic has been one of controversy amongst some folks in Christendom.
Some argued that Satan personified as the serpent according to Genesis 3 actually had sex with Eve, while some are of the opinion that it's not.
There is this other school of thought that posits that everything presented in Genesis chapter 3 was figurative and not literal which includes the eating of the 'forbidden fruit'

NOW A BRIEF ANALYSIS
*If it is argued that Satan in guise of the serpent had sex with Eve,the pointed question then is,does humans and serpent have the same gametes. Secondly let's be reminded that before now God had told Man to multiply and replenish the earth,so it will be totally out of context to say that the forbidden fruit is sex and to say that it was Satan that introduced sex into the world, that sounds ridiculous and absurd

*Some theologians explained that Cain is a product of Satan's relationship with Eve but the bible told us expressly that in chapter 4 vs 1 of Genesis that Adam 'knew' his wife Eve,which means that Adam actually has sex with Eve and the product was Cain which was the firstborn child of this couple. So it can't be at the same time true to think that Satan begot Cain through Eve.

However let's hear from you.
Do you think Eve had intercourse with Satan?

Working backwards, do you not see that the "knewing" his wife took place after he now knows abi knew?

Then, when did he start knowing/knewing?
Answer: only after his wife had "given" him and that he "took" it.

So, why is cain an important sign?
Answer: because he was the first man. And God was already following the first man.

Then look at Eve's statement "i have gotten a man from The Lord". Not that I have gotten a child from The Lord but "i have gotten a man from The Lord". Exactly how women shout when they give birth to a boy saying "i don born boy".

That means that she already had birthed girls but did not have a boy which is further proven by the fact we now all see and say that women r dehv....s and too Wike.d (another sign).

And [b]Mathew 7:16, John 8:44, says that the fruit proves the Tree, [/b]so where did females and cain get their evil nature from since God is Good?

So, you are confusing serpent with the reptile but the dictionary also tells you that serpent means a sly, creepy, deceitful unscrupulous person.

All was argued here.

https://www.nairaland.com/7929942/math-7-16-shows-us#127297866

HeatSeeker:
Please go back and read my initial response to you on this thread.

Ok. I see your response however, with due respect, i do not think this is true for Christianity and church goers.

Yes, not everyone understands God very well at the same time however, since nursery Sunday school till they grow up, people universally understand certain key things about God but not what the op said. And all the pro God threads here confirm everything we have heard from sunday school and BK (Bible knowledge) till we grew up to learn more.

The only time when the understanding of God became confused was when devus like the op came with their perversions and "keep an open mind"

For, we all know the kind of questions normal church goers must ask in their attempt to bona fidely understand God and we have all seen them here.

But, however, we can all see the perversion, derogation and veiled blasphemy the op makes against God. There is no way that, that can be accepted.

budaatum:
By your own words we can tell you are suffering.

See lies and deflection. Ivu shall live and waka with you till your throat busts.

HeatSeeker:
You seem to have made up your mind about the op. You are not open to learning anything outside your echo chamber.

Not when I gave him a chance and then he spewed more blasphemies and ivu.

But since you think what is saying makes sense, then, be his advocate and explain to me how you think he is right especially as you see that he say God is unreasonable Angry, Judgmental, Easily offended, Quick to punish, Demanding constant worship, when all these are lies already

HeatSeeker:
Forget the messenger and address the message.

In the case the messenger and the message are the same and i addressed both

budaatum:
You must think pissing every 2hours from spinal is some sort of death sentence, lol, and that your own pathetic version of a god is worth considering.

Ivu people live long so that dia sufferings are long, so you are not to dhy soon. ...

budaatum:
Greetings to you too.

May all our eyes be opened.

Eyes are already and some like you, Eve and satan will gnash your teeth and gum scatter, starting from this world to the next

HeatSeeker:
The Op is right. There are different interpretations of GOD. And different people pay obeisance to their own interpretation and understanding of what GOD is to them. This happens in every religion and faith. Even with people attending the same church.

We must acknowledge that GOD is one but states of consciousness differs, as well as, levels of spiritual development. Whatever you see or experience is solely based on what your mind will accept, which is also a function of how far you have gone on the spiritual ladder.

If it came from another person my response may have been different. But for this op, he is a sa.tan.ist and his purpose is to make those who even believe God small, to stop trying to go to God.

Do you not see how he is making it sound like God is unreasonable and has no reason to be angry? If God was as he says, should he not be barbecuing like those caught in high tension or rolling in calamities before now? Yet God lets him live to do his ivu.

Correct judgement

Now one adulterer is barbecuing in hel

Another post appealing to men to marry devus.

budaatum:
Like, if one is worshipping the God who put Adam in a garden and told him not to nourish himself with knowledge, as opposed to the God who created humans in his own Image and told them to rule and subdue and multiply for which knowledge is required?

One would live as a naked ignorant slave instead of a master of all one surveys.

See, ph∅∅, you who ate knowledge, now you cusd to pissing every 2hours from spinal cos. You ain't seen nothing yet. Your spine is going to break but you would still be alive to see you have stomach cancer in addition

Theawakensoul:
🌿 WHAT IF YOU’VE BEEN WORSHIPPING THE WRONG IDEA OF GOD?

Pause… and think about this honestly:

👉 What if the problem is not God…
👉 But the version of God you were given?...

See desperation of satn.

Now its version of God.

As if people do not know when they have been given rubbish just like this one you are saying.

Continue spreading ivu, it would surely fill your house and life

When you are doing the wrong thing, do you not know?

If sense still did not tell you that you are doing the wrong thing then it is your fallt