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CalliDora1:
I beg to disagree a little here on the word "advice" being an American spelling. It is not. It's a noun form of *advise".

I do not contest that it is not a "noun" but I was simply laying the history of it in relation to the History of the Americas.

The Truth is Always in the Past if it is not immediately seen or known.

Magmata:
The statement; "ye shall know the Truth and the Truth shall set you free" has nothing to do with library of texts but the simple recognition of the Law that birthed All laws, law of Mercy inclusive.

...That is, any testimony, proclamations, knowledge, myths, ideologies, beliefs, laws... that stand in contrary to this Law of Justice is FALSE and dead.

This is where the song He is Exalted/Great is The Lord by Maranatha Singers is Instructive

He is exalted, the King is exalted on High
I will praise You
He is exalted, forever exalted
And I will praise His name

He is the Lord
Forever His truth shall reign
Heaven and earth
Rejoice in His holy name
He is exalted, the King is exalted on high.

The Truth of The Lord is Established Forever. They were there in the days of old, they are here even now and they would always be there in the future.

Thus, These Truths are my Light and Ruler for measuring anything that is said to be True.

Magmata:
Hence, one can safely assert that the one and only thing God cannot do is to disturb the balance, the law, upon which His entire works rested.

This is Not True, for you have not taken cognisance of the other Law that The Law-Giver Always has Power to Alter, Amend or even Suspend the Application of His Laws Against Any Subject, which is why even though it is The Law that Man can not walk on water, it was Suspended in the case of The Lord who extended such suspension to Peter.

So, The Lord can always disturb the balance even though He does not often do so.

Magmata:
Under this light, I desire your submission once more regarding the Truthfulness of the testimony that "God sent his only begotten son (to die) in atonement for human sin", as part of reconciliation scheme.

Which Truth are you looking for? Is it The Truth of whether He sent His Son? (The Unchallenged Written Evidence Already Answer this) or is it The Truth of The Son's murder? (Again this is answered) or is it The Truth of Reconciliation of man to God? Here, the question then is do you think it unnecessary that man should be reconciled with his maker? And just for checking up purposes, do you know and understand what reconciliation Truly means?

Magmata:
But first, I'll like to share in your understanding of the "law of reciprocal action" that is, whatever a man sows, the same he shall reap. Is the law True?

Meanwhile, I wouldn't mind if you can assert the Truthfulness or Falsity (with regards to relevant law) on the following as recorded in the Bible.

1. The Conception of the Son of God,
2. The Resurrection of the Son of God and
3. His miraculous deeds.

For the tidiness and clarity let us settle these prior matters first, then we can duly move along to the other matters stated in your post.

Kriss216:
Offence
Offense

Center
Centre



I’m confused with these words.

Like Collins4u said, the Americans wanted to separate themselves from the British whom they hated (for if you know their history, the first American settlers were British wicked criminals who were moved to the Americas because they were still a Serious threat to the British Society) so they altered or substituted many English words with one of their own making and creation, which if you examine you would see it was along their illiteracy lines (for most criminals then were illiterates) and therefore they were slangs and spellings as given by the criminals .

So offense, advice, center are simply words spelled as pronounced by illiterates or semi-literates.

Ogamysamo:
english is too heavy as compared to our local dialect and such had confused many including me in several areas where a thing with a specific name in our nigerian languages will be called in two or more ways in english. sometime different and sometime similar which has to be used differently.

now here am i facing another tough time experience when going in and out of the strange but friendly mr. english

come across mr. advise and meet another mr. advice not sure if they are both correct or one is wrong
and the worst part is that i don't see any difference in their pronounciation

what is the difference that these two things here(advise&advice) have please?

There is No Difference but their Distinction lies in the aim and goal of their Use, that is based on the purposes that they are being Used For.

Magmata:
Hmmm...

You said and I quote "It is another Law that No One likes a Dirty, Filthy Thing but Clean things... "

And... with this law you justified the assertion that God sent his son..., but you didn't say anything about the son being murdered as part of the reconciliation scheme or not, even though you mentioned that his killing was foreseeable...

I did, thats why I said
".. when our things get damaged, we always discard and dispose them.

Thus, since The Lord did not wish us cut off from Him by virtue of Disposal or Discarding, therefore, He has Surely Provided for us a way that we may Always Be Near Him (Reconciliation) for as New Cars are to us, we were very very Close to Him."

This is where you appreciate the Great Power of The Lord when He says "He taketh thee in thine own plan", For as I said earlier it is guaranteeable that an evil man will murder, so therein did The Lord put His Plan of Salvation and Condemnation too (People Only concentrate on the Salvation View but do not teach or pay Due Attention to the Condemnation Side)

Magmata:
Don't reply me here.

I'll have to pop up in one of your threads later, because, for a law to be tagged universal or made standard for judgment, it has to satisfy All cases of similar pattern, otherwise it'll amount to injustice. And, God cannot be unjust.

This will be the focal point of my subsequent questions as I'll be presenting my questions unclad and without prejudice.

Thanks in advance.

Raise up any of my threads by mentioning me and I'll always come to respond therein as soon as I see it.

I look forward to hearing from you for I have seen that Truth Always Stands Surely after Examinations and Re-examination and Cross-Examinations.

Would you be interested in this post?
https://www.nairaland.com/5840996/most-dangerous-lies-those-lies#89273977

And or Or

https://www.nairaland.com/5833595/deception-deceits-world-hidden-truths#89150030

Magmata:
By your explanations, there are immutable Law(s) by which elements of creation operates and interacts, know these laws and be free of erroneous beliefs. Am I correct?

Yes, I verily affirm this

Magmata:
Also, this immutable laws are peculiar in their operation, yet they are one, as in - from one source. Can you highlight some just as you previously pointed out that walking on water is unlawful by the nature of the law operating in our sphere.

Other examples are

1) it is the man with womb (Womb-man now called woman for short) who shall bear the child in her belly.

2) No man can be in 2 distinct places at the same period of time eg Calabar and Abuja.

3) What belongs to me, does not belong to another.

4). What is mine is always mine until I Wilfully give it away.

5) The Doing of Good is what is approved by The Owner and Creator of this world, thus even wicked men hate that which is not good.

These are many more Laws which I call Natural Law.

Magmata:
How do you open my eyes to the law (if any) that will deflate my belief that "a God sent his only son to be murdered, in order to reconcile me to himself?" Or, is the act lawful and the story True? If yes, which law is in action?

The Proof of the Truth of the Testimony is seen in the fact that

1) It is another Law that No One likes a Dirty, Filthy Thing but Clean things. Thus, if a cherished and loved thing becomes dirty, eg your plates cups and cars, is it destroyed or discarded/disposed?

Surely the answer is No, it is not destroyed, discarded or disposed but washed and cleaned, hence The Law of Cleansing and Purification which is one of the Objectives of His Visitation.

Thus, since The Lord did not wish us cut off from Him by virtue of Disposal or Discarding, therefore, He has Surely Provided for us a way that we may Always Be Near Him (Reconciliation) for as New Cars are to us, we were very very Close to Him.

But as when our things get damaged, we always discard and dispose them.

Therefore, here, God Did not just do One or 2 Things with this One Act as is popularly taught but Many. The Lord Fired One Shot and All Targets fell. For here below is another Target Acquired and Destroyed.

2) Who Did He Visit? Answer, The Worst of the worse, The most evil people on earth (which is why it is even reasonably foreseeable that they were going to Kill Him for that is what it means to be Greatly Evil, for as snake must bite and a beast must tear, so also must an evil man do that which is very Wicked.

Thus, if and when and where One Most evil man is changed from his evilness, therefore all who are less evil or as evil as he was who refused to change, are Immediately Condemned without Excuse or Defence which is why John 3:19 -21 clearly warns us, if we would listen. Thus, Another Target Pulverised.

Magmata:
I purposely chose the above case in order to understand your interpretation of the statement - "examine everything thoroughly..." what immutable law classified it as good or not good?

As I said earlier, this counsel is only understood if you can know and identify what things are good from those things which are not, for as I have explained and shown above, it is Only That which is Good that is Approved and Allowed by the Owner of this House called the World to be done and even the most bad person called evil, does not wish to be a recipient of not good.

Magmata:
I'm following...

Also let me play advance another Truth I have observed. As you said

"For instance, 2+2=4 in base 10 has nothing to do with Truth but convention, because in other number bases the answers are different."

It is seen in Nature that if 2 items are put together or added or summed up with 2 other items, you MUST have 4 items hence the Truth of 2+2=4

However, if you put the Number 2 with the Number 2 (as one will find in that magnetic Number Toys with which we teach our toddlers 1,2,3 and A, B, C) you really do not have 4.

What you would Truly have is 2+2=22 (what we call Twenty Two).

This is also physically True however the distinction is that a person will not likely get into trouble if he uses the Truth of 2+2=4 but he shall surely be damned if he acts on 2+2=22 beyond its place of physical appreciation.

Magmata:
Meanwhile, what do you make of the statement... "But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good"

The first thing you would have to know very well in fully understanding this statement is "how well do you know that which is good?"

For it is only when you have thoroughly settled All that which is good and have properly decided that you want that which is good, then can you appreciate the Whole Weight and Effort it would require to Identify and Hold On Very Tightly to that which is Good.

Magmata:
I'm following...

Okay, since Truths are those things which can affect the wellness of my living in this world it is therefore highly pertinent that Truths Must be sifted from Lies as it is well established that Lies destroys a person but Truth brings Wellness and Comfort and Peace and Life.

Thus, I have seen that Most Truths are "Diligently" seen and observed in Nature, if a person is attentive to his world around him coupled with a good memory.

So this is the basis of my Trust in Truth and I hope I took care of this part of your post

"Nevertheless, If I may ask, what is Truth to you? Does it depend on human convention? Is it what conforms with your view? Is there a universal standard of classifying a statement as Truth? Or, is there a witness in individual that confirms it? If yes, what is it?"

Magmata:
I am a seeker and I cherish spiritual knowledge a lot, but I'm always very careful not to become too rigid in the process of learning, hence, I don't defend any ideology no matter how good it sounds. At most, I discuss the law of sowing and reaping; a known Truth that cut across all layers creation.

Nevertheless, If I may ask, what is Truth to you? Does it depend on human convention? Is it what conforms with your view? Is there a universal standard of classifying a statement as Truth? Or, is there a witness in individual that confirms it? If yes, what is it?

Meanwhile, what do you make of the statement... "But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good"

You can direct me to any of your thread (if any) that addressed this. However, you owe me no explanation whatsoever the same way I owe you none.

We learn we grow
Peace.

Whew! This is a pretty long post but the central issue I see is as you said is "What is Truth? (In my own opinion).

First, my idea of Truth is that, it is that which Controls and Affects the wellness or illness of my living in this world eg the solid ground under our feet on which we walk upon and the impossibility of my walking atop the sea are Truths or of walking through walls instead of doors.

Thus, it will be a Lie when someone counsels that men walk upon the sea or through walls for I must take him to Oniru beach in Lagos for him to prove it, or take him to Kirikiri Prison for him to walk through the walls thereof to meet me outside.

And where he fails in any of these things, I am going to advertise him that he is a "Liar".

Therefore, Truth is like the ground under your feet, the air you must breathe, the food (not wood or stone) which you must eat.

While Lie is like saying "Put your food on the air (as though it is a table) and your plate shall stand on it so that you can eat from it" or like saying a person who has 3 Cars and puts them in Empty Garages (0)= therefore he has Nothing (0) (No car, for his cars have disappeared or the cars are no longer his own because he put it in empty garages) that is 3 X 0 = 0. Surely, this is not True.

Are you with me so far?

Don't let your heart be troubled
Hold your head up high
And Don't fear no evil
Fix your eyes on this one truth
God is madly in love with you
Take courage
Hold on
Be strong
Remember where our help comes from

Lyrics in Good Grace by Hillsong United.

Bodydiialect57:
This scripture, Matthew 12:13a was mentioned to my hearing in the dream, and when l checked after waking up, it reads:


STRETCH FORTH THY HAND!

What does this mean?

Spirit filled insights are highly welcomed.

It means "Consent".

Your Consent (Agreement) which is your Real and True You (Soul), is Always in play in any and every transaction whether for blessing or for Condemnation.

There is not anything in this world to which we do not give our consents to or refrain from giving our Consent from whether it be good or evil.

That is why we say in Law, Consent (Soul) Establishes/Determines The Law.

This is another Law of Life And Death: "A Soul Must Always Agree to either participate in a transaction or Refuse to participate in it.

sonmvayina:
Can you give an example..?

1) What you people lovingly call "Karma".

2) Do unto others what you want them to do unto you.

3) Give, it will come back to you/ Givers Never Lack.

4) Doing Good to thy enemy, puts him in Troubles!

5) A Rod Always Lands on the back of a Fool.

These and Many are the Laws of the Unphysical.

hakeem4:
This is purely an equivocation fallacy. You’re equivocating the word “law” and it won’t be a honest discussion

Sorry Hak, there is No Fall here, for you presented only a part of a whole while I sought to make up the other parts that make up the whole, which was the first part of my counter but not my point.

My point was laid in the 3rd paragraph of my rebuttal, so I did not make any Fall not to talk of the Fall of Equivocation!

finalboss:
Or they don't exist

This is wishful thinking for it is clearly known that nonexistent things give No Effect but all things experienced have a causation.

finalboss:
Invisible mythical characters have control of nothing

They won't be invisible if invisible is visible so therefore you visibles have to wait for their visibility.

hakeem4:
The laws of physics control the earth

Then, Do not forget the laws of chemistry and biology, oh but they are all physical.

Okay, so then do not forget the laws of the unphysical (invisible).

And after that when you remember these Laws, then you have to know and Remember that there must be The Law-Giver or Law-Maker!

He was the Very Best of men in the whole world at that time.

Even as a child, he was goodly! Oh what a man to emulate.

Uptheante:
If a man becomes possessed by demons, what happens to his spirit?

1. Will d demons chase away his spirit & be controlling the man's body till when 5hey are expelled before the man's spirit will return to his body?

2. Will both d demons & the man's spirit be residing in the same body pending when the demons would be expelled?

Answers needed pls

Both and all stay together

Griffelspawn:
The idea of omnipotence is dumb. As shown by this simple question can God create a stone so heavy he can lift it it? If he can then he isnt omnipotent as he cant lift the stone he just created. If he can't, he still isnt omnipotent because he then he cant create everything. You are welcome to answer, but please dont respond with "he works in mysterious ways". Because as John Adam's , one of the founding fathers of the USA put it"mystery is a convenient excuse for absurdity".

You just went of-field and out of scope to make this refuse dump post for first "Potency" is about Power and All Aspects and Expressions of Power.

But from the abundance of your stupidity, you thought to limit it only to the Power of what you call "Lifting" meanwhile The All Power-full (Omnipotent) can cause it to Move in any other way, even in a way that you are yet to describe with words..

So you have only proposed a nullity and displayed your foolishness.

Nicenancy:
Luke 23:3,37-38

[3]Then Pilate asked Him, saying, “Are You the King of the Jews?” He answered him and said, “It is as you say.”

[37]and saying, “If You are the King of the Jews, save Yourself.”

[38]And an inscription also was written over Him in letters of Greek, Latin, and Hebrew: THIS IS THE KING OF THE JEWS.

At this point, the Jews already had a King. Why then did Jesus claim to be the King of the Jews?

Thank you

A king is a Person who people obey or feel bound to obey thus, once the Jews started to listen Him, it was foreseeable by the Pharisees and all that they would obey Him, hence, Christ became their King in their souls.

[quote author= post=98077888]Can you just imagine this level of wickedness
They were withdrawn because they protested for their sweat,
because they are asking for the wages of their sweat.
This is absolutely unacceptable.
Power corrupt, absolutely Power corrupt absolutely. [/quote]Power does not Corrupt, it simply shows Corrupt Persons!

Magmata:
Smiling...

I really don't have problem with what you think about my submission, if it's what sweating for I would have done that.

But, if you really meant my contribution was meaningful, it implies that it has some substance worth considering.

How come your "respectful" reaction painted it a "product of pit toilet" and brainwashing, were you just playing with words?

It isn't a crime calling black "black" and white "white" but saying the same submission you tagged 'erroneous' is indeed meaningful isn't a symptom of balanced judgment either.

I want to assume you have the truth and the only way to dispel darkness is to light a candle (at least). Not just calling it out.

My opinions aren't rigid, it's just like every other submission on that thread, I didn't invent mathematics, I'm not a mathematician, and I don't think by submission is even Mathematical.

Moreover, we human beings tend to interpret things in the direction of our inclination. I only hijacked that opportunity to express my own understanding Godhead, nothing sinister.

I insist we see better through others, and your first submission still remain constructive even if your choice of words aren't too sweet.

Afterall, Truth is bitter.

Do forgive me for in truth, I thought you were solidly fixed on your position so I hit too hard in a bid to show you that you do not stand solidly on that ground and that you can not stand on it.

And this is also because Everyone including I, Desire and Require Only That Which is Purely True, for we shall act on it and use it. so I have a very great hatred for Lies, Misrepresentations, Falsehoods and whatever flowery they have to give or describe a Lie.

oluwafemiabioye:
Simply from left and right cancellation law.

This is where "0" x .... any number = .... is the Only Exception to The Law.

TheGoodJoe:
I think I have noticed where the confusion is coming from.

When it comes to multiplications, the discussion should start from the product and not the factors.

BobFischer, Dtruthspeaker, teepain, mu2sa2, adanny02, koning, STINOS, iWise

And this is where you are making the mistake for you are running smack into the Solid Wall of Law of the Beginnings.

When you read you begin with A,B,C, when you count you begin with 1,2,3.

We work with Somethings not nothings.Thus, it is The Law that Something Causes Something and Nothing can not do anything.

This is the Law of the Multiplication, for you Must have Something to Multiply. A person shall be deemed insane if he is seen working with "Nothings"!

TheGoodJoe:
Get the point. The question is about the result. 15 and 2 are not the result. They are the factors used for production. Not what is produced.

Yes, But All Products come from the Fact of Production Exactly as your post here in Nairaland is a Product of the fact that you CERTAINLY used a phone/Computer, Internet Connectivity, Registration in Nairaland Membership, Login and Successful Submission of your comment by pressing "Submit".

The Whole True View is that it is an Inseparable Process, your Post and comment did not just fall in here, you went through a process.

I can safely say that in this world, all True Products, Come from Due Process and the Process and Products are an Inseperable Whole.

For there is No Product without a Process in this world.

TheGoodJoe:
From the image, you are not counting the 15 or 2. What is the concern is what is produced.

If you are not considering the 15 and the 2 you would NEVER HAVE 30.

You would simply be presenting 30 "Boom!" out of the sky, just like that. Then reasonable person shall say "ok, what happened to the 30? And what shall do you want us to do with the 30?

But this is not so when we see the 15 and the 2. Surely we shall see the connection that 2 in 15 places is 30 And 15 in 2 places is Also 30!

Magmata:
Ah!

And l'm here thinking I've made some meaningful contribution.

Well, such is life, we see better through others.

Oh Please, do not take it the wrong way. You indeed made meaningful contribution only that I was simply expressing the fact that idid not like it because It is not true.

litigator:
Please, permit me to reiterate that there are plethoras of authorities, wherein the court decided that Section 42(2) of the Constitution is sacrosanct and must be upheld.

First, The Law and Courts and Lawyers are a Creation and Establishment made By God for Rightness and All Goodness Only Hence The Doctrine "The Law/The Courts Can Do No Wrong" for they were made to be Good and expected to Remain, Always Good.

But this is now no longer so for today, man has made his own Fake Laws called Constitutions, Statutes etc causing Judges/Lawyers to argue on Rightly and Goodly Settled Matters.

There is No Debate or Argument Under the True Law of Man (Natural Law) that "Every Child, whether Natural Born or Subsequently Acquired, is always Automatically Entitled to Right of Possessing and part-taking in his Parents Goods whether the parents be alive or dead".

As long as the owner of the goods that is, the parents have consented and made a former unknown and strange person, their child.

Which is in exercise of their Full Rights and unfettered Discretion to Dispose their goods by Giving it to Any Person they so desire.

And once this is done, it can not be made undone by anyone.

Thus, No Child or Person can Validly Deprive Another Child of his Rights to take his Parents Goods.

This is the Solid Position of the Law Made by God but men, lawyers and judges have perverted it.

.

Magmata:
0*3 and 3*0 have their differences only in structure, the real value lies in the statement itself of which each member share the same strength irrespective of their sizes.

This can be verified using non zero multiples, the outcome remained the same irrespective of the structure. The same with addition.

Now, consider these statements;

1. 0*3~zero in three places
2. 3*0~ three in zero places

The first statement says three positions to put nothing and the second statement says zero (no) position to put three. Since they're mutually dependent, zero is only expressing itself, that is, I'm complete in myself.

The implication is, zero unlike other numbers doesn't obey arithmetic rule, it can only stand by other numbers and give them value but never mingle in any way.

If you check number line, every other number emerges to the left and right of zero ( -ve & +ve), it isn't a number, it's the origin, complete and perfect in itself. It's shape says everything.

It's a symbol that goes beyond arithmetic, it's a statement of existence.

Respectfully, this is pit toilet products trying to explain Untrue Proposition/Brain Washing.