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Alaroro:
How can you rank gambit over superman vs batman? That is really sacrilegeous
Abeg re-arrange your list

1.Batman vs superman
2.Captain america
3.Xmen apocalypse
4.Suicide squad
5.Deadpool
6.Gambit
7.Doctor strange

I think dawn of justice is Fine where it is on my list, DC is yet to really do anything impressive green lantern was a flop, dark knight trilogy only had one good movie out of three and man of steel is horribly polarizing what makes it worse is that they are competing with marvel instead of creating their own thing, really i wish them luck

GogetterMD:
Common, I mean, we (that actually means I) have been waiting for the Batman/Superman movie since 2012 after watching the explosive "Return of the Dark Knight" cartoon. That cartoon was the bomb. Still one of the most explosive I have seen. The movie will be great if they can recreate just half of the action scenes in the cartoon. But the casting of Ben Affleck though, I have my reservations

Ha! Let's just pray they do well cause if the movie fails, it will kill a lot of projects DC has up the pipes
And try "superman batman public enemies" or "apocalypse" or "justice league war" or my personal favourite "justice league doom" those are way better cartoons than return of the dark knight and better ways to prepare for batman V superman

2016 is going to be a delight as we're getting perhaps one of the highest number of superhero movies in a year and what makes it more entertaining is they are both from DCU and MCU;
- Batman v superman
- Suicide squad
- Captain america civil war
- Gambit
- Deadpool
- Doctor strange
- Xmen apocalypse
Ranking them according to anticipation and i have
7) deadpool(low expectations)
Really the movie may not be all bad but i don't see this movie doing favors for anyone either;
- xmen origins already ruined the deadpool character for us
- ryan reynolds is reprising his role as deadpool and judging from RIPD,blade and green lantern i see marvel has made a wrong choice
- for the idea they are trying to sell to us the movie looks way too campy

It basically just feels like a mixture of spawn and ghost rider with a different character

6 xmen apocalypse(low expectations)

- Xmen has overstayed it's welcome, it should have ended with last stand
-Xmen has been on for so long that it's becoming too formulaic and predictable we always know humans will hate them, we always know they will be insecured, we always know there will be other boring mutants to make wolverine shine and bla bla bla
- the resurrection of the dead characters in the last stand just. Lowers the stakes in this movie cause we know that any main character that dies will just find a way to return
- hugh jackman was terribly aged in days of future past i wonder what he looks like in this movie and don't deny it wolverine happens to be the only interesting character in the xmen. Movie franchise
Although it will be fun to see quicksilver again, his demise in age of ultron was a bit depressing

5 doctor strange(moderate expectation)

No denying dr strange is actually a decent character, however;

- he happens to be one of the least relatable characters
- they are venturing into a genre dominated by harry potter and as a result has a lot of room to fill to satisfy fans of sorcery/fantasy
- it feels like another constatine(2005 keanu reeves) disaster waiting to happen

The only good thing about this movie is its amazing cast tilda swinton,chiwetel ejiofor and mads mikkelsen(rumour) lets hope they can save this movie

4 suicide squad(moderate anticipation)
For as long as i can remember i've never really been a fan of the suicide squad, i feel it's too dark and grim
However;
- i'm curious to see Will smiths input in this movie this happens to be his first comic movie appearance
- margot robbie coming out of her comfort zone as harley quinn is something i'll like to see as well
- it is a movie featuring a team of anti heroes playing protagonists first of its kind
- if they can work this on the right, work justice league on the left and then make them clash later on in the years, it would be so dope fingers crossed

But at the same time
- a team of expendable psycho killers
Going on clandestine missions has already been done a thousand times already even as live action(e.g: RED,losers etc) and suicide squad stands the risk of just blending in with the rest of them
- Good luck measuring up to heath ledgers joker
- if batman is really in this movie then he's just going to steal the show and side cast the main characters
- apart from deadshot and harley quin, the suicide squad agents look just as boring as wolverines old unit in xmen origins

3. batman vs superman(Moderate expectation)
I know i'm commiting sacrilege by making this one number 3 but the more i think about it the less likely it will be for this movie to really be a hit
- man of steel was a giant disappointment and didn't really have any bearing i mean it was directed by snyder but looked more like a nolan movie and both of them will be in this one
- the wrong actors are getting the wrong roles first it was ben affleck as batman then gal gadot as wonder woman and now i hear jesse eisenberg will be playing lex? After gene hackman and kevin spacey? Good luck
- the villains are a bit of an overkill lex and doomsday? i really hope doomsday is a rumour cause bringing him and killing him off in 2 hours will be a huge waste come on this guy killed superman(or at least put him in a coma) it's just like when batman begins used ra's alghul and scarecrow and ended up wasting ra's alghul
- it's so obvious they are trying to compete with marvel and as a result they seem to be rushing things e.g: instead of this movie being solely about batman taking on superman for the events of man of steel we also have to put up with DC cramming other characters in as well


2. Gambit(high expectations)
Gambit happens to be my favourite x-men character and this is an opportunity to establish him as a character.
Not to mention Chaning tatum is an excellent choice(although i would have preferred olivier martinez) so if they can get the x-men factor out of the way, not make it an origin story and basically not ruin him the way CW ruined green arrow then perhaps the movie shall not be a huge disappointment

1 captain america civil war(crazily excited)
This one takes the cake i mean whats not to like?
- both ironman and captain america have amazing spin-offs
- the conflict between both characters doesn't seem forced i mean they've been dropping bread crumbs along the way
- things are finally getting realistic as the story shows just how real people react to super heroes
- would love to see how captain america ends his search for his friend bucky/winter soldier
-spiderman will be in this and thankfully he is not a thirty year teenager wannabe
-Finally we get to see what a real captain america iron man fight will look like
I feel sorry for cross bones he's just going to be another shot in the dark like malekith

My opinion anyway so rate these movies according to your expectations

badinfluence:
E pain am sha . Look.. our little spat was just a little spat and that's what it would be.

Exactly just a little spat , yes your butt was thoroughly whooped but all the same your recurring headaches is still a mystery don't worry anytime you want to stalk or sulk or clone yourself(pathetic ) or go crazy without direction on this issue, just recite the following; "its just a little spat" don't worry ehn i shall keep to my promise and make sure i check on you everyday till you're weeping no more

badinfluence:
you don't have to lay false accusations

whatever floats your boat raalsinfluence you know, you caring so much about what i think only makes you look more guilty#CommonSense, i've caught you its over just try to handle your shame a little more maturely next time see you tomorrow

badinfluence:
Are you lonely? Did your bf just break up with you? Is there any void in your life? Why are you being clingy . Are you Hot? I said no attachments and you've found another angle to still keep us engaged.. I smell desperation... ewwww

typical you, just say any nonsense that comes to your head when you're upset Lwkmd wow you're quite a character i will never forget you the guy that attacked me with two different identities, if an "ignorant birdie with low iq" could make you stoop this low, i wonder what an "eistein" would do to you

smh wonders shall never end

But don't worry the shame cloud has gotten old and i'm tired so i'll leave you to keep talking to yourself enjoy! I shall remember you in my prayers

Lol are you still using different accounts badinfluence sorry raasalghul? We don pass that one na see how you're running up and down for a "clueless" observation what are you trying to prove? smh anyway back to my question


So "badalghul" did you think i was going to be so stpid that i wouldn't notice?

Raalsalghul:
LoL! What you've just written here is silly. Who told you me and badinfluence are the same person? You have no proof or evidence of that. And besides, stop all these Marvel or D.C loyalists stuff, it doesn't make sense. Leave such things for the 12/13 years old. Oh! I've forgotten you are one. Any ways, this is a good era for comic book fans and we should be happy that both of them are producing movies based on our beloved comic characters. You are here claiming a Marvel loyalist, when all they are interested in is your money. Don't you know you are older than all this? Mtchewww, carrying marvel movies matter on top your head as if they are paying your school fees.

So tell me, was it worth it attacking me again with your second account badinfluence o sorry raalsalghul this time right? Smh @ childishness

Palmwinetapper:
Like why did he marry this one. Munachi is fresher and younger. Dey could have formed jay z and Beyonce in Nigeria!

he didn't marry munachi so he could create an opportunity for you

badinfluence:
Eapps Please don't check up on me.. don't form any attachments

Check up day 2
so how are you feeling today raal....sorry i mean badinfluence?

NB: the next time you want to attack someone with your alter-ego here are some things to check

1. Make sure the person you attack is dumb and clueless
2. Don't base your Raasalghul attack
on something badinfluence initially said randomly
3. When attacking marvel loyalists, be sure to attack your badinfluence character as well because he was just as involved
4. Change your mode of operation good God you two just happen to be interested in "differentiating" things,you two could spot my "ignorance" even though raasalghul's attack wasn't based on facts, you two are so concerned with my age and you both do that thing where edit my posts and stick it in a quote and how did he know it would be a"long night" yesterday? I never dragged with him overnight it was only you and i doubt he read all of that, come on that must really be some kind of coincidence
5. You should really really really know how to differentiate sarcasm from straight talk cause i threw a sarcastic comment over to your raalsalghul character and it went way over his head just as well
6.Your Raasalghul. Character was watching a really long captivating movie but still had time to check nairaland and view his mentions lol you even mistakenly cursed me out for a message clearly meant for badinfluence no one can be that stpid na

Anyway i hope you enjoyed talking to yourself about superman vs batman: dawn of justice, i shall now shoo away and return to check on you tomorrow raal.....sorry i mean badinfluence

badinfluence:
O wow.. stulking? Soo smart.. so you're looking for friends? I've never been good with birds, so sorry I can't be your friend.. again bye bye birdie

get well soon will check on you tomorrow NB: the part about looking for friends look up my debating tip no.5

Raalsalghul:
And when I thought the matter has died, the Bimbo replies. (In batman's voice) Its like you want to bleed, you will. I didn't ask for your condolence

Read properly my friend the condolence was for badinfluence

Raalsalghul:
Besides that, I can't ever remember calling the film a disappointment, a film that made 1.3 billion dollars with a 70+ rating on tomato, How is that a disappointment?
We might be bickering here online, but please let's not lie against each other. Finally

Read my post well i clearly explained my "lie"

Raalsalghul:
I still maintain my stand that the film is a flop when compared to box office projections.

And did i ask you to give up your "stand"? Like i've said a Thousand times already ITS YOUR OPINION!!!

Raalsalghul:
so I will go back to the movie am seeing “Interstellar” which is a long movie and expect your reply, Bimbo!

too much detail didn't ask

badinfluence:
Pahdin?? So you are saying the movie was a disappointment and not a flop(which are sort of synonymous)??

No! raalsalghul is the one saying the movie is a disappointment afterall he is the one who brought up the notion of the movie not meeting it's 2billion dollar projection

I'm glad you too can see how silly it sounds by the way i just saw this

badinfluence:
now shuu.. shuu... bye bye birdie...

Wow are you serious? It's been one week and you're still stulking (sulking +stalking pretty brilliant right?) And i'm the one who should be shuu-ed? smh absolute case of pot calling the kettle black
don't worry ehn. I shall stand by you, all thru i know it hurts real bad but suck it up i shall check up on you everyday till you're cured, today you've a friend in eapps
Check up day 1
How are you feeling?

badinfluence:
But I'm curious oo aunty eapps.. please what would you term something that failed to meet its expectation? Please enlighten us with your profound wisdom

Em disappointment, let down etc but when it's a colossal failure then we have a flop

you're welcome

badinfluence:
Coo coo coo... translation: why this long epistle

just some friendly tips should you find yourself in a similar situation in the future you're welcome by the way

raalsalghul:
Commercially, yes.

You see that was my point "a flop" at the box office tends to count as a "flaw" to a movie simple

Raalsalghul:
But you should also know that Shawshank is one of the most critically acclaimed movies of our time. Did you check its rating on imdb.com and rotten tomatoes. And if you remember I referenced it as a movie that wasn't flaw but flopped.

critical success is a plus but it doesn't take out the mar or the commercial flaw of that same movie

Raalsalghul:
Not tell me how is that different from my logic. Feeling Pretentious huh!

I don't get what was your logic again?

Raalsalghul:
Yeah Yeah Yeah! Blah Blah Di Blah! We've heard that all before and the novelty has worn-off

Don't be mad at me I tell it as it is

Raalsalghul:
And how is the box office turnover not important to the success of a movie?You keep using the word, Logic am not sure you know the meaning.

Your angle on how movies can be a flop simply because they fail to meet their expectations is not Practical or realistic
I hope i'm clear this time?

Raalsalghul:
“www.cinemablend.com/m/new/Early-Avengers-2-BoX-Office-Predictions-Insanely-High-70241.html and perhaps all this megabytes wasted would have been used to research the early box office projections for the film.

Yes i checked. All around including your cinemablend article and i didn't find the part where their expectation was stated as 2 billion and neither have you, i thought you got your information from a particular website that specializes in stating box office projections. I was going to use this same website to show you other movies that have made projections they didn't meet , but i feel it's safe to say you thought up the 2billion dollar thing on your own cause all the article talked about was it's high expectations of course expectations will be high it's the avengers will it be low before?

Raalsalghul:
This is why I said you have a low IQ You are dumb oh, seriously. Since when did offering an opinion become forcing it on someone?

You offered it? So why did i automatically "not understand english" for rejecting it and simply calling it "your opinion"?

Raalsalghul:
And how is that logic lame. If you are a cinephile then you should know that for every movie, there are always expectations
Age of Ultron didn't make up to its expectation. Read my first comment well.

Yes it's expectation of 2billion dollars which you couldn't prove i think i read that part, anyway it didn't meet that Expectation you're right, but does that make it a flop? no

Raalsalghul:
Point 1: When did you ever ask me a question that you didn't know the answer to?
Point 2: Like duh! Did I ever, wasn't it Age of Ultron we've been talking about since?
Point 3: No sense in this and perhaps last I remembered, I have no friends in this thread, so tell me who did I drag into this argument. And besides you give references to buttress your argument, there is nothing “Oversabi” about that. But I guess you won't know that: the only thing you are knowledgeable about is on how to use emoticons.
Point 4: I might be a tad bit guilty of that, but so are you too.
Point 5: tell that to your self
Point 6: am not angry, am just amazed at your “Olodoishness”. And yes, we are cool!

Well don't mind me i just wanted to give badinfluence a tip on debates and rope you in because you're like an angrier version of badinfluence if i didn't know any better i would think you and badinfluence is just one person with two seperate accounts, anyway i got too lazy to make specifications so far i would suggest you take tip 2 and tip 4 and tip 6 but feel free to learn from the rest incase of next time
You're welcome

badinfluence:
More bird poo... coo coo coo...

Ouch! I guess you are still having those headaches huh? It's been a week dude water under the bridge by now I know you're going claim "ignorance police" and start going round in circles again but allow me to give you and your second raalsalghul a few tips on debating

1. When someone asks you a direct question give a direct answer don't tip toe around it
2. Stay on topic don't deviate
3. Stop trying to stack leverage against the other guy (e.g: dragging your friends into the discussion, or making unnecessary references just to prove you sabbi etc.) It's not a competition it's just a discussion
4. If you don't understand a statement rather than just assuming or insinuating, ask the person what they meant
5. Know the difference between sarcasm and straight talk
6. Finally, angry words and trolling only makes you vulnerable

so I guess we are cool now right

GJames:
To me, he sucks. To movie experts, he is awesome overrated

fixed

badinfluence:
Aunty eapps are you sure you didn't make a mistake in that quote.. what am I testifying abeg

that I whooped your butt

badinfluence:
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Brothers sha.. you tried to end something by fuelling it... now it's a triple threat abi handicap, depends on what reply eapps gives...

Yes!!!! Yeeeeees!!!! testify lol how body?

brothers:
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Oya raalsalghul eapps we all know as e dey go, we know say the two of you get sense just shake hands make everything finish for here so we go fit hear word

Well everything has finished though,it looks more like he enjoys throwing cartoonish fits and I'm just enjoying the show no crime there

your copy-cat post was ok altho I will change a few things
watch and learn

Raalsalghul:
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You can never chew me up

So says the guy who just served himself on a platter with his contradicting posts, his desperate effort to derail and his immature tantrums, imagine if I'm to capitalize on those(okay this is cool won't change a thing here)

Raalsalghul:
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and like I guessed you couldn't just ignore my post. You had to reply.

I would ignore this part cause it makes no sense

Raalsalghul:
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You keep typing LoL to give me this false impression that you are laughing, laughing at your brain's inability to put a valid and logical argument

I would also ignore this part cause it's just all rants and no sense

Raalsalghul:
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I gave you some references; Shawshank redemption and Transformers: Age of extinction, but your sub-zero arguing skills couldn't come up with one.

Well then shawshank redemption didn't make much money at the box office right? Okay is that a plus to the movie or does that mar the movie(at least commercially)? And as it mars that movie doesn't it lean towards the negatives of the movie?

Raalsalghul:
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I guess your I.Q is still operating at the level of a primary one student who thinks 1+1=11. Moreover, if someone at your age (considering the profile pic) could not put up a reasonable argument with proper references, then Mr. Bean's character is a genius compared to you.
You might be physically mature, but up there is as empty as a vacuum.

Awww this is all you can come up with? An angry rant with no meaning this is so embarrassing come on try harder you are raalsalghul the analyst remember? Stop making me feel sorry for you

Raalsalghul:
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Finally, giddy up cos if it's exchange of words you want here, then am down!

Has it come to this? You want to just throw away everything and engage in a juvenile game of word exchange? Is your self esteem that low that you can't see how degrading it looks? Smh

Raalsalghul:
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All this could have been averted if someone could have taken his/her time to understand a few lines. Lines like (In quote) “You should understand that the film didn't flop
literally.

smh why are you trying so hard to play dumb did? Since we started talking how many times did I mention the movies box office turnover

Raalsalghul:
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The film flopped when compared to its
expectations at the box office. Fans and box office

Dumb logic case closed!

Raalsalghul:
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analysts were projecting the film to make about 2
billion dollars at the international box office due to
the success of the first film, hype and the
anticipation. But it didn't. it didn't even make up
to the box office figures of the first avengers
movie. Conclusively, the film didn't flop literally (it
still raked in profits), but it flopped when
compared to its expectations of 2 billion dollars.

Ok you know what? Like brother said, gimme the link to that site that made those projections I would like to make a point with that

Raalsalghul:
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Hope you understand now?” And yet, someone read the above and said I was trying to flaw the movie. How can I even say a movie has a flaw, when I've not even seen it (Is that even possible). In addition, the person arguing blindly ignored the part where I said (It raked in profits) and said I wanted the movie to fail, as if I had the power to do that.

Smh how did this all start? Someone said the movie flopped and he was referring to something else entirely only for you to step in and force one of the lamest logic known to man and you expect people to think such desperation wasn't aimed at making the movie look bad? Ok so what was your point for showing up and "explaining things"

Hello! no one showed up? Sorry about that, you really wanted to fight someone today right?

Raalsalghul:
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Well, I just hope your stupidity doesn't allow you to go back to your word and quote me.

Lol fear fear, don't sht your pants like I said I'm not in the mood to chew u up like I did to someone who is still. Licking his wounds don't worry I'll go easy on you

Raalsalghul:
. You are as dumb as your statement which compared movies to university grades.

Oh I'm glad you think that statement is dumb I made it extra silly so you could see what your flop explanation looks like

Raalsalghul:
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Don't you have a dictionary at home? Well, let me help you out of your stupidity. According to the encarta dictionary, Flaw: a mark, fault, or other imperfection that mars a
substance or object. However, Flop: a total failure.

Exactly! a flop (mostly commercial) mars a movie. Don't you agree? or do you think flops count as anything else to a movie? feel free I'm pretty open to anything today

Raalsalghul:
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But I know you, your stupidity will allow you to quote my comment on “Flop” saying that I said flop means a total failure when actually, in the initial argument I said it was a flop compared to its predecessor and not literally. A movie can be a flop but not have flaws e.g The Shawshank Redemption and at the same time, a movie can have flaws and not be a flop (box office success) e.g Transformer: Age of extinction

Loooool no need to go crazy now like I said it's your opinion and I can't make you change it

Raalsalghul:
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. Now I hope you are cleared of your dumb mentality. Finally, why are your emotions, heart and mind so invested in this movie. Are you a Marvel share holder or a Marvel fan girl. Or is the MCU paying you any royalties.

Oh you saw that? don't worry that's just
How I get when grown ups act like children around me it's really irritating don't you think?

Raalsalghul:
Like I said before, am not sure you comprehend simple english (not an insult). I said Avengers: Age of Ultron flopped, I didn't say it was flawed.

Tsk tsk "you are trying to flaw this movie" and "the movie flopped" how do these sound alike? Wasn't it obvious that i was referring to something else? While a movie flopping and a flawed movie aren't the same thing A flop actually counts as a movie flaw just as bad legs count as body flaws and i said you're trying to flaw this movie because your reason for its flop made no sense ,if they are to grade hollywood movie flops based on your angle almost every hollywood movie would be a flop, It's just like when a university undergraduate thinks he will finish school with a firstclass based on the build up of his previous semesters but drops to a second class upper and despite his academic achievement we call him a failure anyway just because he didn't meet his traget of firstclass, how does that sound to you?

Raalsalghul:
How can I say a film is flawed when I haven't seen it? Can you please answer that question? But on the other hand, I can say a film flopped because I have access to its box office earnings which I can access on different websites and sources and Age of Ultron didn't flop in the literal sense of it (except when compared to expectations). Flopped and flawed are not the same thing my dear. Take time to understand my words before you quote me.

Anyway like i said it's your opinion and i won't be the one who will ask you to discard it i've said all i have to say but it's obvious you are looking for a fight and sadly i'm not really in the mood but don't worry just sit tight and have a little faith another toddler with a phone and a lot of time to kill and similar intentions as you may just come your way take care!

Raalsalghul:
It's like you can't comprehend simple english.

Smh i just knew you would go there how predictable well at least next time wait for me to actually show my lack of comprehension because this up there doesn't make sense

Raalsalghul:
I said the film didn't flop “Literally”. And yes, when a film doesn't make up to its box office expectations, then it can be said to be a flop but not in the literal or dictionary sense of it. Understand?

Who said anything about the movie flopping literally i was only trying to understand your angle(if there's any)
Smh you're just trying too hard to flaw this movie, well no one cares anyway so why bother?

raalsalghul:
You should understand that the film didn't flop literally. The film flopped when compared to its expectations at the box office. Fans and box office analysts were projecting the film to make about 2 billion dollars at the international box office due to the success of the first film, hype and the anticipation. But it didn't. it didn't even make up to the box office figures of the first avengers movie. Conclusively, the film didn't flop literally (it still raked in profits), but it flopped when compared to its expectations of 2 billion dollars. Hope you understand now?

So because the movie didn't make 2billion or because it didn't meet its
Projection that makes it a flop? So if the prequel didn't meet its projection it would've been a flop too? Well it's your opinion sha

mrmagoo:
U go fear debaters

Loooool i'm not a debater o it just comes out of me when some little kids are trying to use primary school sense to avoid direct questions that irritates me alot, well now he's learnt sha

mrmagoo:
Eapps i will be
Very disappointed with you if you aren't a lawyer or pursuing a career in law (Y)

Stop scoping me jo

GJames:
Eapps, here is your answer. As for baddass villains, Loki is hugely regarded as the only superb villain in the MCU (I'm not feeling him though). As for severee, good job, keep it up

So i don't understand, is loki a superb villain or does he suck? Cause your post is saying two different things

badinfluence:
Because I can change the world... one ignoramus at a time just say you have chores to do and stop claiming 'I have a life'...

Smh nairalanders please make una help am laugh

badinfluence:
Wow.. look.. the ignorant one is still at it.. I know at least you've learnt a little. I like how you conveniently ignored those inserts. I've corrected some of your ignorance in the quote. Free of charge

Lol your headache hasn't stopped? Eeyah you are so bent on vindicating yourself that you keep coming back even though you said you are "done" and you keep chatting up that poor passerby who was only concerned with fantastic four's rating just to hide your shame, why is an "ignorant" person making you do all this? why is an ignorant person making you so restless? i would love to stay and engage in your banter but I will be quite busy today because unlike you i have a life and i don't roll around in the mud for no reason because i have a thing called pride, so keep talking when your points become fresh, I'll be more than willing to engage you when I have nothing better to do cheers!

Palmwinetapper is she your sister? You are so obssessed with her, instead of opening all these threads find a way to communicate with her na life it too short for to waste it loving from a distance

It's not abt protesting or demonstrating that's one thing nigerians don't understand, a country united is a successful country whether nigeria or biafra if you want your country to succeed
Then unite, create support groups to assist your brothers, create investment clubs to invest in social development projects and at the same time enrich yourselves,create interest groups to educate your people start working on the things you keeping away till tomorrow and at the end luck favours the prepared and it is much better than tearing nigerian flags up and down when

It's ok she rocked it pretty well i'll give her a 10

lol who is that wicked person you want to kill dr sid music is his life o poor boy has toiling up and down now he has managed to look successful and you want him to quit ah that thing for pain dr sid well sha

badinfluence:
Did you read the part I said loki knew about a secret portal, hence thor needed him?.Moreover thor promised loki vengeance in return.

Did you read the part where loki had to depend on the chance that thor would want revenge?

badinfluence:
You dey watch your movie for mirror ni?

Em ha ha? Right?

badinfluence:
I've told you why ultron was a joke maybe you're too daft to comprehend.

Whay was he a joke? Because he gave punchlines throughout the movie, well that's not a reason

badinfluence:
You've not countered any point rather you heap more ignorance in each of your post.

Lol so why are you now desperately relying on your cheap and childish insults if it's not your pain and frustration from being throroughly countered eeyah sorry ehn

badinfluence:
I don't have to try harder, you can't make a blind man see the light.

You don't need to try harder because you have nothing else to put forward simple

badinfluence:
Since you're too dimwitted to know the difference cum similarity between an opportunist and a schemer keep swimming in your ignorance.

Hmmm more frustration talk, don't worry get it all out get out all your frustration

badinfluence:
I've tried to enlighten you but maybe your brain na push and start so e never pick.

OMG more jokes

badinfluence:
Well I like you because in the midst of the ignorance you've exhibited you've. Managed to defeat me despite my attempts to save my face using the my comic book knowledge and expertise

Fixed!

badinfluence:
You mixed up thanos' role,

Thanos wanted the tesseract so through his chitauri intermediary he negotiated a deal with loki he would deliver the chitauris for loki to conquer earth(or newyork) in exchange for the tesseract, this was my point

badinfluence:
you're oblivious to the role of the infinity stones,

Infinity stones? What did i say about infinity stones please i'm curious?

badinfluence:
you're oblivious to back stories,

Eeyah i knew that back story bit was your strongest ally too bad you had no reason to use it

badinfluence:
you don't even know the role of the chitauri,

Ok now you're just looking for things to add to make your list lump smh why are you so desperate to prove your self to an ignorant person?

badinfluence:
you're oblivious as to why thor needed loki,

Yes the part where he needed to sell the act? What act? Ok the act of knowing a secret tunnel ah ah you should have said that before na continue being convenient there

badinfluence:
you don't know the role of selvig,

Yes his role was to create the wormhole am i right? Now was it the role of dr selvig to install a fail safe in the sceptre to close this wormhole under loki's nose? that was my point

badinfluence:
you're oblivious to loki's ultimate aim.

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Look whose talking you who kept changing loki's objective for being on the hellicarrier smh

badinfluence:
Contiinue miss ignoramus??

Yes continue displaying your childishness and making fun of your self

badinfluence:
Doomsday is coming not zod is coming, you don't even know that.

Doomsday is only coming in zods body? got it

badinfluence:
You're oblivious to the build up of the next avenge

More off topic points

badinfluence:
you don't even know who whedon is,

Lol joss whedon sure i have no idea who he is

badinfluence:
you said ultron is the best villain in mcu, you claimed

Have you countered my oblivious claim or are you relying on your comic books to do that for you?

badinfluence:
hawkeye is the main villain in avengers part 1.

Yes because without his plans or resourcefulness loki would have been nowhere even you know that

badinfluence:
You're oblivious to loki's powers,

Yes the powers he poorly or hardly displayed in the movie you can't blame me

badinfluence:
you can't confidently explain who an opportunist is, you don't know how to classify villains. Infact you are just the mascot of ignorance

I can't confidently explain who an opportunist is? You are the one who has made no effort to explain how loki is an opportunist and a schemer at the same time

Sorry ehn better luck next time

Insult me from now till tomorrow, but this ignorant chick floored you on a topic you are well versed in and you lost your cool and wept like a baby peace!

badinfluence:
An opportunistic person takes advantage of situations for his own interests, he doesn't rely on luck. He uses any situation.

Any situation that rules in his favour abi? Ok so how did he get this situation or opportunity was it by his doing or by chance? That's what differentiates a schemer from an opportunist

badinfluence:
Because it's zod's body doesn
't mean the consciousness of zod is in it. Shey you get.. if they weaponize the body, then my dear that isn't zod anymore.

What about winter soldier? They turned him from a soldier for america to a lethal and powerful assassin for hydra his brain was wiped clean but did that stop him from being steve rogers friend bucky did it? And what makes you think doomsday won't have zods consciousness afterall we've seen comic book stories change in their movie adaptation

badinfluence:
I think you've forgotten how this whole ultron argument started. Go back and see.

I think it started with you thinking ultron was lame and me thinking the opposite

badinfluence:
Marvel is keeping loki alive because he has a significant role to play and not because they feel like.

Yes i know but if he wasn't needed by marvel, his "cunningness and scheming skills" would not have kept him alive

badinfluence:
Loki was in the cell and malekith's attack was the opening he needed.

Okay it was the opening he needed to predict that thor would want revenge for his mother and will commit treason to do it, then he would break loki out of prison because loki can sell an act then loki will fake his death and thor will buy it, i hope you can see how moronic this looks please stop raising this point, it's nonsense

badinfluence:
Yes I'm frustrated with the level of ignorance I'm dealing with.

Isn't it a shame that despite your vast knowledge and my "ignorance" that i was still able to floor you on all the arguments you keep bringing up? If you ask me, i'll say that's why you are frustrated if not you would find it alot easier to ignore my posts

badinfluence:
'real men create their own luck' is as daft as ' real eyes realize real lies'

Ah don't bite my head off o i am not the person who originated the saying

badinfluence:
nobody can create luck. Try to be logical in thinking biko. Luck is like chance, you'd have to be a mutant to influence probability. So that saying is illogical. Give me an example of someone who created luck

Didn't i explain how people create opportunities rather than sit down and wait for the situation to turn in their favour? stop trying to act slow you are only hurting yourself

badinfluence:
So Aunty eapps, can you see that from point one I was making comparison to the comics. Even what I said about ultron.

And i also remember you giving no valid reason for why he was silly in the movie. try harder my friend try harder

badinfluence:
Lol. She's mixing up facts, boldly making claims to things she's oblivious to.

Lol please list the mixed up facts and oblivious claims

badinfluence:
It's a shame sha. This is what happens when people are always glad to see any hollywood movie.

Smh what does that have to do with anything? Off topic as usual

badinfluence:
The one wey tire me now na when she talk sey zod and doomsday are the same. I literally became weak.

There you go again forcing words down my throat did i ever say they were the same people i said zod is going to be re-animated and you said he is coming back as doomsday so who is coming back as doomsday? Zod simple

badinfluence:
Who is a schemer? Basically one who formulates plans. Nobody creates luck for crying out loud. What sort of troglodytic thinking is that biko... who friggin creates luck.

Uh-oh I forgot I'm discussing with a baby and I have to break down everything have you heard the saying"real men create their own luck"? Well what did I define as luck in thor dark world? If loki was as scheming as you claimed he would have. Controlled the circumstances that got him out of jail and make him become king , he wouldn't have "waited to take advantage of an opportunity which came merely by chance now I know u are going to say what can loki do from a jail cell? If that is your question then perhaps I will answer it by saying he won't do anything because he is not a schemer I hope you get it this time?

badinfluence:
I said ultron wasn't depicted well in the movie considering his story from the comics. And you kicked against the point as if I said ultron is a bad villain, learn to comprehend before you start arguing.

Lol weren't you the one calling ultron a comedian? Weren't you the one who talked about how he placed the gem stone from the sceptre into the hands of his opponents what do all this points lead to? If you told me that you were comparing ultron movie to ultron comics I would have stayed away from this discussion

badinfluence:
In an effort to show you that, I brought evidence from the comic, is that something you can't understand? You can conduct a poll between loki and ultron in mcu and see the one picked as a better villain

smh give up you obviously have nothing to say is my discussion with everyone isn't it with you?

badinfluence:
. Ahhh... loki has been in 3 movies and he isn't dead yet as opposed to almighty ultron.

Okay so loki survived because of his cunningness and scheming skills or because marvel is keeping him alive? C'mon you even said it yourself that loki will be in the part 3 of avengers so why the question smh

badinfluence:
You're asking me how general zod and doomsday are different? Really? Are you for real.. you think doomsday is the villain name for zod? Shoot me now.

Smh sarcasm look it up
So just because their names and characters are different in the comics it is now mandatory that they are different in the movie? That's why I sarcastically brought up a comparison of max dillon and electro just to show how ridiculous that idea was and here you are making a joke out of yourself ok baby who owns doomsday's body? Zod abi? So my dear its zod ok

badinfluence:
Even the comedian ultron would acknowledge how funny this question is.. I should tell you how zod and doomsday are different? I should tell you how these two separate characters are different? Lord have mercy. Abi you think zod's surname is doomsday abi. You seriously got me laughing by ass off with this show of ignorance

Smh are you this frustrated or you just want to entertain me by making fun of yourself? Please work harder cause I'm not laughing

badinfluence:
Max dillon and electro are one and the same person. Zod and doomsday are different characters. Gosh don't conclude on what you don't understand.

Ok so just because they have diffrernt names or because they are different people in the comics that means they are different people right? Lol that's Awesome so tell me how exactly are they different people

badinfluence:
Ultron lifted a city did he destroy everyone?..

So a city with a giant hole in the middle is still a habitable city right and when did I say ultron destroyed everyone I only said he d more damage in his invasion than loki did

badinfluence:
an opportunistic person is also a schemer..

No they aren't the same one RELIES on luck one CREATES luck

badinfluence:
is that hard for you to understand. Captain stacy knew Peter was spidey, and he knew his daughter would likely get hurt just like he did.

But you said captain stacy's death was significant to peter's loved ones dying as a result of him being a super hero but captain stacy was not a loved one he was just an acquaintance and he was on the tower because that is his job unlike gwen who kept stringing around because she cared about peter see the difference?

badinfluence:
I never said deadshot's ability includes being a god.

I was being sarcastic I know he is not a god but how did he survive the shot in the eye? I've seen dead shot in dc cartoons before and he has both eyes intact so the what's the background story on him surviving the shot to the eye in green arrow?

badinfluence:
Do your research more on him. If you don't understand things about these characters don't argue blindly.

Arguing blindly? I'm arguing based on the movies na you know wetin dey carry you from film go comics

badinfluence:
Coulson has more importance than quicksilver in mcu.. quicksilver was insignificant case closed.

So if you ask a fan now whose death was the most painful coulson or quicksilver who do you think the fan will obviously go for? Smh

badinfluence:
Nobody said loki's plan worked but the helicarrier episode

Ah ah but thought loki didn't have a plan? I thought He just wanted to leave the hellicarrier?

badinfluence:
was a win for loki.

How is it a win when your plan does not work and your threat is still out there, if loki was so contempt with the hellicarrier outcome then why did he try brainwash tony to fight the avengers?

badinfluence:
Malekith attacked asgard, thor freed loki and loki capitalised on the situation.

What if thor didn't free loki? What if thor chose not to avenge his mothers death? What if malekith never attacked in the first place? you see that's what I mean by luck loki's dark world plan was so full of it

badinfluence:
Every one who saw post credit scenes knew loki didn't die, so you can't say we all thought he died.

Tsk tsk must I break everything down for you? You're not a kid didn't you think I would have seen the post credits? Ok lemme explain it to you slooooooooowly when loki supposedly fell to his death, didn't you think he was dead? When he was stabbed by malekith's henchman didn't you think he was dead?

badinfluence:
Ultron didn't show in any post credit scene, he's dead.

Lol so because ultron didn't show up in the credits that makes you so sure that he is dead ok did agent coulson show at the post credit? Did winter soldier show up at post credit of first avenger when he was supposedly dead?

badinfluence:
The doctor whom you claim loki couldn't manipulate had already served his purpose, he had built what he was meant to build.

But what about the fail safe he installed in the sceptre to close the worm hole? Was that part of his purpose too? How did loki miss that?

badinfluence:
Loki is termed the god of mischief. Maybe you don't know being cunning and scheming are all included

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So where was all that cunningness and scheming in the movies, joker showed his cunningness in dark knight he lived up to his title , ozymandas from watchmen also lived up to the title in the movie but loki didn't simple
Arguing with you on this is just tiring because you don't have background knowledge on these characters. My

badinfluence:
advice, do your research. It's just like someone who only watches game of thrones trying to argue basics with someone who reads and watches game of thrones.

Why are you diverting into the comics weren't you the one saying that loki in the movie was way better than ultron in the movie as well I've stuck loyally to the movies and showed you how loki was a weak villain but you keep jumping into the comics yet you haven't still told me how loki was better than ultron IN THE MOVIE, ok if I decide to "do extensive research" on the comic universe would you promise to stick to the depictions of beoth villains in the movies

badinfluence:
You just think the movie is good because it made money. News flash, it was obviously going to make money because it's avengers.

And what about the ratings weren't those good as well read my earlier comments on why I thought the movie was great I went way deeper than the box office earnings

badinfluence:
My dear I'm done. I'd rather argue with someone who can explain why ultron was given a sucky interpretation with valid points, and explain why the movie was exactly what we saw in part 1.

Lol you were done when you started using the comic books as an excuse to avoid the topic on ground loki has had three movies and still you couldn't come up with how he was cunning and scheming without mentioning his reliance on luck or his so called minions infact you even contradicted yourself by proving that hawkeye was beneficial to loki, that loki relies on luck(opportunist) and that he is a lousy schemer(the hellicarrier episode)

badinfluence:
Be enlightened on loki you can do more research

Smh I thought you were done?

badinfluence:
You'd be surprised eapps would disagree oo

Omg how childish can't you contain your pain? If I'm to disagree with the movie I'll be sure to do that with facts and not avoid the situation as you can see

badinfluence:
Watch agents of shield and see that coulson is actually more significant than quicksilver.

Captain stacy's
Ok before u derail us again I started the bit on quick silver by saying that comic book movie producers find it hard to kill off comic book characters because of the risks so rank quicksilver and agent coulson and see how who ranks higher that's my point stop giving yourself headache

badinfluence:
death had its significance on peter, it was to show that definitely due to his heroic antics, people close to him would die.

That doesn't make sense captain stacy died doing his job it wasn't because of spiderman just because he told peter that people close to him will get hurt does not mean that he and peter were close if you said gwen stacy's death was more significant I would have even considered that

badinfluence:
A point further buttressed by gwen's death. Does that answer your question. How can you even ask the significance of back stories?? Christ. These are movies adapted from comics, how in the world would you do away with the back story. Aunty,

Hehehe and where did you see me asking about the significance of back stories I only asked why you were. So bent on backstories when I never brought it up in the first place[/quote]

badinfluence:
an opportunist makes use of any slight opportunity given to him, he must not create the opportunity himself
Malekith's killing of the queen was the opening loki saw and he used it to it's fullest. There was no better person to sell the act,that's why thor met loki.

Ok so loki is now an opportunist and not a schemer? Ehen now we are getting somewhere and did loki tell you the murder of the queen was the opportunity he was waiting for? Cause he failed to communicate that to the audience and what if thor didn't come to break him out? I guess he would have waited to use another opportunity to the fullest and what act did thor want loki to sell? Did there even have to be an "act" to begin with?

badinfluence:
Believe me ultron is deader than dead unless a reboot is made. Zod's body may be used to create doomsday, that doesn't mean zod is coming back. You don't have to be Einstein to know that.

Ultron is dead how do you know? Didn't you think loki was dead in the thor movies? Didn't you think agent coulson was dead? You can't be too sure ok zod isn't coming back just his body and probably his hatred for superman I guess max dillon also did not come back when he transformed into electro ok I got it

badinfluence:
Ultron didn't destroy the whole of sokovia oo. It was wakanda he went to, and he didn't destroy it.

So the city he lifted off the ground was not sokovia but wakanda? I understand that's why the citizens were all white

badinfluence:
As for your xmen theory, you clearly don't get it.

Alright help me get it

badinfluence:
You've just refused to accept the fact that your precious ultron is one of the suckiest movie villains. Your point being he started a robotic invasion, loki started an invasion too.

Why should I accpet that when all you've said was ultron's depiction wasn't loyal to the comics and that he was a metallic kevin hart to make me "get it" you'll have to try much harder. And i didn't say he is cool because he led an invasion didn't I talk about how he plotted his plan all by himself or how much fear he put into the avengers or how. He didn't need to use silly sceptres or convenient devices to get people to do his bid and his invasion sef compare it with lokis which was more devastating?

badinfluence:
As for deadshot and the eye thingy.. it's in the BACK STORY. Now can you see how and why back stories are important? Superman and batman have fought before in the COMICS..

So dead shot can survive shots to the eye? Hmmm never knew deadshot was an immortal god[/quote]

badinfluence:
Loki's couldn't care less about the helicarrier, his minion hawkeye had stolen the iridium, so he had to leave which he did

Oh great you're no longer talking about BACKSTORIES okay now was loki telling black widow. That hawk eye had stolen the iridium and how he was going to leave? Because I can remember black widow saying"so that's your plan" and then informing fury that "he's planning unleash the hulk" so clearly he was concerned with hellicarrier and the avengers besides are you trying to tell me that loki was once more depending on his minions to leave? Just imagine if hawkeye regained consciousness and didn't come to hawkeye's rescue.

badinfluence:
. And the avengers realised loki's plan was not just to defeat them but do it publicly seeing as they are billed earth's mightiest heroes

So loki's plan was to defeat the avengers that was just formed and he or the earth has never met? I see
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badinfluence:
Hawkeye had served his purpose stealing the iridium so loki couldn't care less what became of him. The avengers were so distraught after the incidence that fury had to motivate them with coulson's death. How is that handling the situation...

so because they were depressed about coulson supposedly dying that means they didn't handle the situation and loki won? Who knows maybe loki's mission was to depress the avengers?

badinfluence:
Loki used the scepter as an advantage, idiot ultron used it for decoration. Haha. You said he used it on the doctor to avoid sabotage? Well he should have used it on the twins for the same reason. He didn't and it cost him.

And loki used it and it still cost him so who is the bigger loser? Especially when it was under loki's nose his own sabotage happened lol loki couldn't even "manipulate" a guy under a trance