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SlayerForever:
Okay. Na hazi okwu gị ofuma. E jim Chukwu ayogi.

Chatiam up.

Ngwanu, ndo. Iwe ewela gi.

Omanambala:
Aghotasiro m' ife idelu maka igwe nti. Akala obu nke aga eji nweta gi ?

Chere godu. Ichoro igwam na ighotaro ihem dere cha cha. Owu gini kwanu. Ngwanu kam koro gi nke bu eziokwu. Ihem dere bu nomba ewenti m. Mana edere m ya na asusu Igbo.

sinteiking:
That is all that matters.

The King of Opobo has affirmed him and his Subjects Ijawness.

Any other opinion that contradicts this claim is inconsequential

Trash, how about this below.
King Jaja have always affirmed his Igbo roots in every Ahiajoku gathering. His majesty the King has never missed the gathering of kinsmen since it's establishment. This particular Ahajioku festival & lecture series was held in 2019.
How many Ijaw cultural gathering does King Dandeson attend? A youtube video to chop money from Ijaw INC pipeline vandals is not a guarantee that Dandeson will suddenly loose trace to his roots.

https://independent.ng/owerri-stands-still-for-ahiajoku-festival/

SlayerForever:
Chat me up so I can add you 0706 145 8715.

You can quickly edit your profile name before chatting me. Thank you.


cc Igbo nationalists

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sinteiking:
And please when did Mary Data Uranta stated her Igboness. Show proof.

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Proof! This thread had made me understand that proof and Ijo are world opposite. A typical Ijo man will be showed proof but the Ogogoro in him will make him see white and call it black

SlayerForever:
Bịa diokpa don't you ever in your life for any reason whatsoever make an unfounded statement towards my person again. I hope you understand me very clearly. Don't you ever.

Ok, I don't want to post screenshot of the group as it needs to be protected. But tell me if I said a lie?

sinteiking:
Did Mary Uranta claim Opobians are Igbo?

So she mush inform you about her identity. I guess the Ogogoro you drank this morning is affecting your brain.

Go and meet Mary and question her whether she took permission from you before starting her Igboness. Majority Opobo identify as Opobians. You’ll hardly hear them say something else.

Igboid:
Slayerforever is suppose to work on this and notify the rest of us.
He created a Facebook group in the past, but I don't know how secure the group is.
So I'd suggest he creates a new one, and let us know the name here.
Then any one who wants to join will be vetted.
I believe he is currently working on it.

So we are waiting for his reply.

I’m not at ease with that Facebook group. Slayer forever killed it himself by making it an IPOB group to worship Nnamdi Kanu. Count me out of anything IPOB. Secondly, no meaningful issues is being discussed there. No meaningful Igbo issues both cultural or intellectual is posted there. Everything is Biafra. But when you have a closed Whatsapp group to discussed Igbo issues like the one being discussed here, than you have my support. You can invite those who can make contributions to the struggle.

sinteiking:
Please just show me one ordinary person that is verified to be real from Opobo claiming to be Igbo?.

If you show me one, I will show you 100 verifiable persons from Opobo who can testify their Ijawness.

Search for Mary Uranta the Nollywood actress and come back here to receive your Ogogoro baptism. I know many, in fact so many Opobians that cherish their Igbo identity. They don't come out to make noise.

Igboid:
What is the screenshot supposed to mean?
Does he speak Igbo at home or Kalabari?

Please reply to my initial comment. Are you guys willing to take this case forward or argue carelessly like other threads? What is the way forward? Noise or action?

Igboid and other nwafors, let create a closed Whatsapp group. It's time we do so. Enough of the talks and let's invite our people into a closed group and start action. I don't mind volunteering myself to a part of the writing group. And volunteering my money too to publish it.

Igboid:
It's a good idea.
I should definitely join Ohanaeze.
But I left Enugu sometime ago.
I'm no longer there.

Ok, I thought you are still there. How do we create a close Whatsapp group? The Ohaneze Youth chairman headed by one Ezeanyaka can easily be reached. Dude is a member of Igbo history group on Facebook. We can even reach Mazi Ogbonnaya Okoro on Facebook.

Nwanyiogwashi:
How do you reform what you are not a member? Is any of you here a member of ohanaeze ? If your Answers is no then what is stopping you all from being part of ohanaeze? We all know that ohanaeze is not trying but we can join them and reform them. Talking only online won't help matter you guys from east should get the attention of anybody from ohanaeze.

Exactly, Igboid aka Pazienza is based in Enugu. The same goes of Ezeayaka. What stops you guys from joining the Enugu Ohaneze or Ohaneze youths? Some discussions when gotten needs to be forwarded to the right table and not cheap online blabbing.

I’m not from the SE but SS. But sincerely, many of you would rather join your local IPOB than join Ohaneze. Charity should begin from home. You cannot keep complaining about Ohaneze when you are yet to make efforts to reach them and possible join them to make the necessary ammends within.

ThickSharon123:
You have your way with words which seems rude.

You are right. I'm not really rude in real life just that I tend to be blunt in my mannerism. You know a person from his writings.

Vintagepipes:
9cloud, you do not have to call Algao or anybody. The only thing this needs is the packaging of that information.

Know our demography, we do not like to read, people do not read generally.

How do you package it, to contain all the tonnes of information.

It might not be a task for one person, but of several people.

I see Igboid got a way of bringing words alive and analysing the situation for deeper understanding.

I will say, what are the problems? What are the tensions in the current issues?

1. propaganda that they believed in a lie. This is where the packaging comes into place.

What are the social issues?

PROBLEM 1: The Igbo people of Bonny and Opobo need to know that Igbos there WERE NOT SLAVES TO ANY OTHER GROUP BUT IGBOS.

THE KING and their ANCESTORS are Igbos.

.....IGBO is the language of the king!!!

....Slaves spoke Igbo and that's fine but that is history but the ORIGINAL OWNERS as we know it are IGBOS


This is what Bini used in Ika area.. They were told, that Igbo means "Slave" and 1x2 kingdom Bini means royalty.

The war became another setback and the jealous minorities were hanging around looking for a rare opportunity to rise.

But I am proud of the minds we have and the passion too...

I like this. Kudos

Igboid:
Well, even if you want independence, you must first and foremost conquer your home turf politically, thereafter become a big player in the FG circles, only then can you begin to think of independence.

So yeah, the process of Igbo independence, requires a strong Igbo region within the framework of Nigerian political milleu first and foremost.
We are basically saying same thing.

Ok, if you say so.

Igboid:
No cap!
All Departments of History in SE Universities are a crying disgrace.
They are not worth a kobo spent on them.
They should probably all be shut down in sane climes and if we had a strong Political will.

I agree with you. Intellectual laziness.

JANK23H:
Actually,from the book Igboid was so eager to quote on Igbo metal smiths among the Southern Edo showed Igbos were migrants to Aboh.

A book written in 1970 that quoted sources like Alagoa and the Benin myth. . Throw that thing into the dustbin and fetch something convincing. It's similar to Nigeria going to the ICJ with books written by Nigerian Professors while Cameroon took sources from European explorers and colonialist. Who won the case at the end?

9Pluto:
My claim is a challenge to an acclaimed Professor of History. My thinking is that you would be irked, report to him and have him come and explain himself while he is still alive.

P.S: I have never met him in person, so I cannot hate him like you claimed.

Lol, funny. And you’ll call him out on Nairaland .What do you take an erudite Professor as Alagoa for? Even though his history is fraudulent doesn't mean you can call him out as a child, unless you simply want to inflate your ego. You’ve done the best you can do with this thread, now allow others take up the battle and quite the chestbeating.

Igboid:
True.
I have mentioned about the lack of strong and informed Political leadership that reasons beyond eating, drinking, sleeping with akwuna, and stockpiling funds in tax havens and buying properties in Europe and North America with public funds, in Igboland.

We need a strong Political leadership fully invested in strategic issues affecting Ndiigbo as a people in all five SE states and beyond as governors of five SE states!

Any push for Igbo independence that doesn't start with first and foremost hijacking through the ballots the Political leadership of Igboland from councillors to Senate and Governors, is a waste of time and scam.

I have told IPOB people this severally.

I had once had the privilege of being with a state house of assembly member in one of Igbo states, and I raised some of these issues.
To my surprise, not only was these man totally unaware of these issues, he had zero interest in them.
All he wants is money, women, drink! That's all that tickles his fantasy.
You can't have such people representing your Political interests, and you are talking about Buhari and NIGERIA, when you haven't done your home work and cleanup your home mess.

The bolded is what I’m hampering about. Igbo independence is a pipe dream. So long no other group is championing secession, they’ll always gang up to keep you down. This idea of Biafra that was re-enacted in 1999 by enemies of Ndigbo is still emotionally attached to many of you. Anybody who keep alienating Igbos from the centre under the guise of fighting for an independent country is not in tune with reality in Africa.

You can have a long-term plan for a sovereign Igbo country, but at the moment Ndigbo need a short term survival plan in Nigeria. What are those plans? Simply get what you can get from Nigeria. Get back your political might and the rest will follow. Lost territories will follow and lost glory will follow as well.

Igboid:
Now there is something we must recognize.

This fight is not to claim Bonny or Opobo as Igbo. Ndiigbo are too big a people to be recruiting people into our fold.

This battle is to establish the fact that Ndiigbo existed in Bonny as Aboriginals and not just as Slaves.

Key to Ijaw de-Igbonization of Bonny and Opobo is their deliberate demonization of the Igbo tag in Opobo and Bonny as that of Slave-descendants. The Cunning Ijaws understand psychology very well, humans naturally will not like to be attached to a dehumanizing history. No one would happily embrace a history that says that his ancestors were slaves.
So Ijaws at every given chance have promoted the falsehood that Igbo presence in Bonny and Opobo is a result of slavery.

The implication of this, is that the average Opobo or Bonny Igbo speaking person cannot embrace his Igbo identity without accepting the dehumanizing Slave descendants tag. For this reason, many of them remain neutral, which, and consciously stay away from Igbo, which gives the Ijaws enough cover to work slowly on their cultural genocide agenda.

To break this, we need to unequivocally with well researched proof show to the world, including OPOBO and Bonny people, that their Igbo speaking ancestors were not present in those Islands as just slaves, but that they were there as Aboriginals and as kings, long before the slaves from Igboland joined.
They have to know that they can embrace their Igbo language and culture without being decendants of slaves as not all of them were slaves.

Once we do this and repeatedly so, we would have effectively put to stop the Ijaws psychological blackmail on Bonny and Opobo people.

Academic exercise without political backing is simply noise making. I support your idea wholeheartedly, but you also need political will power to achieve this. The same way Ijaws are using funds from Ministry of Niger-Delta, Amnesty funds, NDDC and the likes to finance INC and sponsor willing persons in Bonny/Opobo is advance the Ijaw agenda, is the same way Ndigbo must rise up to assert itself in Bonny.

Look at what Yoruba’s did in Warri to destroy the Bini-edict that was done in old Bendel state that says only a Prince with Benin mother can become King in Itshekiri. Prince Emiko with a Yoruba mother all thanks to Oni of Ife and the rest underground job is now King of Itshekiri.

Awolowo during the first republic forsaw the Ijaw/Itshekiri crisis and made move to forstal that ownership battle by changing Olu of Itshekiri to Olu of Warri. For the Ijaw disturbance that would have happened in Ondo, he made sure that the axis didn't participate in the Midwest referendum. Today's Ijaws are singing Amotekun anthem in Ondo .
I have no reason to bring Yoruba’s into this discuss but as a major ethnic group just like Igbos we need to assert ourselves and understand the advantage we wield.

Ndigbo keep running in circles which have allowed the Ijaw to use those loophole to land grab Igbo territories. If you are not distancing yourselves from the federal, you are supporting a minority to the Presidency. Worst still, you support Biafra knowing it will push you to political exile. You foolishly support political lightweights like Ekwueme, Ojukwu, Nnamdi Kanu, Uwazurike, Rochas, Peter Obi, Abaribe to represent your interest.

Vintagepipes:
.....Politically? How? Don't overinflate your ego..

......All these groups are pandering because of the money and oil politics.

.....When they don't need you anymore and are done using the IYC for their aim, they will dump you like a bad habit.

I bet you guys are still sleeping. The dude might have no fact to use historically but politically Ijaws seems to be way smarter than Ndigbo. Recent events since 1999 have proven them right.

Igboid:
I think we shouldn't bother about this.
They have been doing this since 1990s, Shell use to finance it.
I think it has become a cash cow for Bonny and Opobo Politicians, they get huge allocation for the Ibani circus jamboree. They gather and eat , they go home to start speaking their sweet Igbo language.

INC had not being emboldened as it is now. All thanks to Igbos who unknowingly gave them that feather. Igbo forget to fight for their interest and ignorantly supported Ijaw agenda. From 1995 led by Ekweme till date, Igbo have ignorant supported Ijaw agenda, unlike the Yoruba’s who don’t give a hoot about them. Igbos need to learn from Yoruba and Hausa in politics. Igbos are the only majority acting like a minority among the 3 big ethnic groups.

Check up all the agenda’s that Igbo leadership have supported since 1995 it has always shot itself in the foot. None has Igbo interest underneath, except state creation. The rest are to please minority Ijaw to the extent of selling your Presidential birth-right to them.

Putindbutt:
All that matters is that there is a political authority backing up the consciousness of the ibani-ijaws. As we speak, the current chairman of Opobo is an ijaw.
You are the ones being emotional while the ijaws are practical.

Exactly. Igbos are emotional while Ijaws are practical. Ikwerre stubbornness in River state is the gulf that has kept the Igbos at bay. Truth be told, Igbos must get her politics right. Quit enthroning Ikwerre Governors in Rivers state. Ikwerre must be returned back to their pre-2007 political conundrum to get back their senses. Nnamdi Kanu once boasted that he made Wike Governor and I won't despute that because I noticed IPOB propaganda in 2015 against APC that made a lot of non-indigene Igbos vote for Wike against Dakuku Peterside of Opobo. Kalabari/Okrika had already thrown their weight behind Wike’s PDP, but for Ndigbo not supporting Peterside was a great injustice.

9Pluto:
Please, don't be unfortunate talking about Biafra here, Frank Opiho would explain better.

Bonny and Opobo igbos only need to understand why and how they found themselves on those two islands and stop listening to Alagoa and his ethnic disciplines.

Also stop mentioning the term minorities and be specific about your ethnic identity unless you are trying to hide something we already know. Afterall, everyone is a minority somewhere for example igbos in Akwa-ibom.

Bonny/Opobo people have been waiting for the hand of fellowship from the Igbo leadership but got none. Opobo people built a King Jaja school in Amaigbo with their own money. I remember when King Dandeson Jaja, and Asagba of Asaba kept attending the Ahajioku cultural festival held in Owerri. I guess Imo state was the only SE state that found it worthy to hold such event. But after the demise of Prof Achebe and coming of Rochas that event died a natural death. The onus is on the Igbo leadership to get their acts right and make the move, Bonny/Opobo people will surely get onboard.

Putindbutt:
Oh, why did you enbolden Alaoga's name while leaving other personalities.
Why not call out the chairman of Opobo and the Perm Sec. of Rivers State ministry of information and communication.

Go back to my earlier comments where I stated that Ijaws control the structures of both Bonny and Opobo politically and culturally.

You only making noise online.

I’m aware this event took place during the tenure of GEJ and not recent. Secondly, the Chairman of Opobo/Nkoro LGA and the Perm Sec for information and culture are no longer in seat. Moreover, they acted in their capacity as politicians. This is the angle the INC are harping on to gain a sort of emotional foothold on the riverine communities. Using such events to merge land grabbing tendencies. And we know that politics in Rivers state has been turned into a upland vs riverine affair all thanks to Ikwerre vs Kalabari political battles.

So I’m not surprised seeing the underground handwriting of INC sponsored cultural move in Bonny/Opobo.

The INC have cemented their status in the Niger-Delta after the emergence of GEJ and other monopolistic ownership of the Ministry of Niger-Delta, amnesty and the NDDC, as more financial inflow is pushed forward towards the Ijawnization efforts to corner communities in Warri/Bonny/Gelegele/Obolo etc.

If Ndigbo can get their politics right, then they will be an halt to that Ijaw shenanigans that INC keep exporting to Rivers state. First of them will be to fix her gaze in communities outside the SE. Get involved in the political battles in Nigeria and get her people to quit the emotional attachment to Biafra. Buhari has already done a good job by removing Ijaw hands from the cookie jar of oil derivative which is being planned to enforce the cash flow to Ijawnize and landgrab communities in the Niger Delta. Ohaneze-Ndigbo and the SE political leaders needs to sit down and start asking themselves open-ended questions and stop being lap dogs to Edwin Clark led INC, IPOB and PDP.

9Pluto:
I will make out time to put up one no matter how short (I could just edit this thread into an article). I have not done so before and do not really understand the process. You could put me through including, the best daily for visibility.

I understand the limitation but don't worry some others will pick up the mantle. The thread alone you opened is a welcome development. You guys will surely be notified.

9Pluto:
The man needs to be called out while he is still alive. So that morons will not continue referencing him tomorrow.

The first step is writing an article to a national daily countering his fraudulent Bonny history. I bet he’ll pick up a rejoinder.

Putindbutt:
In his lecture, Amasenibo Eric G. Jumbo listed out the current threat to Ibani Language which include Commerce and Christian Religion.

Also speaking, Warisenibo Abinye Morgan Ogolo, challenged the people of Bonny and Opobo Kingdoms to make concerted efforts to stop speaking Ibo language.

This will help to rediscover Ibani Language so that it will take its rightful place despite the damage it has suffered over the years.

The Chairman of Opobo/Nkoro L G A, represented by the Council Secretary, Mr. Sunny J. Pepple, called on volunteer experts of the Ibani language to partner with the Council to revive the language.

The event featured dances, lectures and Ibani language competition among selected Secondary Schools with CSS Opobo emerging as winner while GGSS Finima and Bonny National Grammar School, emerged as runners up.

Dignitaries at the event include, Professor Emeritus E.J. Alagoa, Dr. Mrs Iyalla Amadi and the Permanent Secretary, Rivers State Ministry of Information and Communications, represented by Mr. Francis Alli among others.

http://www.riversstate.gov.ng/item/1117-chairmen-set-to-develop-ibani-language-curriculum.html

Thanks for bringing this up. We appreciate you send more of this.

The bolded name will be called out in due time. Despite his old age, he still goes about enforcing his identity genocide. He won't complain of old age when called up to an an historical debate to provide facts to his bogus and fraudulent history on Bonny.

9Pluto:
I would appreciate if you would point me to anyone. Thanks.

You are trying nwanne. I see you in the mould of Mazi Ogbonnaya Okoro who unraveled the presence of Igbos clans in Kogi by writing about the communities and visiting them in person with videos and photos to show. I’ll search online to find popular Youtubers who will need such historical contents.

9Pluto:
I am not in Lagos and I do not have BBC links, however I have been trying unsuccessfully to reach BBC.

Reaching BBC is not too difficult. BBC tend to rely on trends to invite you. They won't invite you if you are not controversial or a trend setter. And you must set the pace by getting in touch with popular Youtuber in the history niche to help out.