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Ekealterego:
Talk with small sense.... Did the person who raised the issue about UI not bring evidence of publications and all the scholarly sins Alagoa commited. Was it not published on Cambridge and Swansea? Didn't they call out UI in the mistake?

Strange you call the girl market woman talk, while you just literarily dumbed down the whole talk.

Hi bro wats up.

SlayerForever:
Lolllllllllllllll. All these foreign historians are harsh

Wait until you read the review about Bonny History. Infact Alagoa had to do a rewrite and revised edition after that smackdown.

I'm still searching for GI Jones rebruttal of Alagoa's History about Bonny. That one na uppercut.

That one will put to rest Alagoa as a fraudulent history revisionist.

Here's GI Jones review of the book The Small Brave City-State: A History of Nembe-Brass in the Niger Delta. By Ebiegberi J. Alagoa. Madison: University of Wisconsin Press; Ibadan University Press, 1964. Pp. 173, ill., map

Perhaps this was Alagoa's first book. You can see from the link below. Only that you'll have to subscribe to see the whole review. Alagoa deployed a lot of shenanigan when writing the book.

https://www.cambridge.org/core/services/aop-cambridge-core/content/view/E62B05D97555805B57AC2B2F1C1A06BF/S0001972000031892a.pdf/small_brave_citystate.pdf

I'm still searching for GI Jones rebruttal of Alagoa's History about Bonny. That one na uppercut.

Here's GI Jones review of the book The Small Brave City-State: A History of Nembe-Brass in the Niger Delta. By Ebiegberi J. Alagoa. Madison: University of Wisconsin Press; Ibadan University Press, 1964. Pp. 173, ill., map

Perhaps this was Alagoa's first book. You can see from the link below. Only that you'll have to subscribe to see the whole review.

https://www.cambridge.org/core/services/aop-cambridge-core/content/view/E62B05D97555805B57AC2B2F1C1A06BF/S0001972000031892a.pdf/small_brave_citystate.pdf

Mark it down. Eguavoen as coach will be the final nail in the coffin for the Super Eagles.

OfoIgbo:
If it was just about the Chronicles of Grand Bonny, how then was Ijaw being mentioned in a book about Grand Bonny? Why did he COMPLETELY SUBMERGE Mr. Fombo's manuscript.

Before I carry on, I believe it will be a good idea for core Igbos to get hold of Mr. Fombo's manuscript. There are points in it that Alagoa wished submerged.

For a scholarly work by Alagoa to earn this line, backed by University College of Swansea WHAT IS WORSE IS THAT THE NEW TEXT IS NEITHER VERY SCHOLARLY NOR VERY INTERESTING. This totally calls into question, Alagoa's scholarly pedigree.

How did the chronicling of Grand Bonny, all of a sudden turn into a land-grabbing effort, to the extent that the core manuscript which is the main source of information on Grand Bonny was COMPLETELY IGNORED?
But rather, Alagoa chose to use secondary sources, with the full intention of elevating details in those secondary sources, to completely achieve the obscuring and submerging on the principal source of information for Grand Bonny.

Alagoa and University of Ibadan cannot wriggle their way out of this major scholarly volte face.

Alagoa and Fombo planned the game together don't be deceived.

BKayy:
The Afonjas are here to derail the thread.
Ụmụ Ajọ mmụọ

Derail, if I hear. With their support the page will get to 100.
We appreciate their presence

DubaiLandLord2:
Enlightened Igbo indeed.

Nothing Una dey talk here wey go change the fact say Bonny and Opobo is owned by the Ibanis and Ibanis are not Ibo.

Lol, as expected my Yoruba friend. You don bring up this monicker

Igboid
Bkkay
Slayer
9Pluto
Ekealterago
And the rest guys. Una wicked o

christistruth01:
The Worse Part is that when you give them authentic evidence from many sources they will say it is a lie

But when Nnamdi Kanu gives them a Truck load of lies and tells them Jubril El Sudan is the President ruling Nigeria they will be jumping for Joy
they will not even question it

Yoruba clown go siddon, you have nothing to say just pained. This is nothing about NK or IPOB. Maybe you think you are dealing with street urchins. You are dealing with enlightened Igbos here.

I suppose you were called here by your Ijaw friend as backup. Maybe after this beating you'll be careful with how you enter into battle carelessly.

JANK23H:
Then why did you bring it initially?

In response to how Kalabari dialect called Ibani gradually found its way into Bonny Island. The first one that talked about inter-marriage is just an hypotesis by me. The second about King Pepple adopting foreign cultures and the third about influence from neigbours. But Adaka Boro genocide wasn't an hypotesis but happened.

Charles the repentant mad man. Lol

JANK23H:
You've come with your hypothesis again.We are debating facts and dissecting a statement here.

Always digging conjuctures from your ass.

One minute Kalabari is Igbo and Ibani is an Igbo dialect,the next minute it's an Ijo dialect.

I have asked for excerpts or news report where Boro or Boro led Nigeria Army attacked Bonny.Till date no response.

You can't deceive the world with this lies.We are not all IPoB.

Boro's genocide is another topic. Not on this thread. We have historical evidence.

BKayy:
Guy from what I read from Baikie and Hugh Crow, Bonny was a very territorial and Violent Igbo city.
Bonny even made Okirika and later Andoni tributaries. Andoni was forced to a treaty to provide soldiers and canoes anytime Bonny is at war.

They said the Slaves didn't do much to their language as they maintained close ties with their Igbo kins in the hinterland.
At the end of page 336, Baikie made note that they embark on pilgrimage to Aro, and they maintained cordial relationships with Aboh and their relatives Ndoki and Ngwá.

Where Jo men who now call themselves Ijaw fit into all these things is what I don't understand.

I'm aware that Bonny was dominant during time to the extent of fighting wars with Andoni and Kalabari.

I'm only looking at the angle of inter-marriage with Kalabari as one means that brought in that Kalabari dialect now called Ibani language into Bonny. I'm also aware that the first Pepple King brought in Ijaw culture which was trending among her neigbours at that time into Bonny. It was obvious that Bonny at that time later got sorrounded by these pirates and far from their hinterland kinsmen.

BKayy:
What you posted said that Okirika and Bonny are of Igbo origin and the small Ijaw words appearing on their vicinity is due to intermarriage with Ijaw women.

Is that how you people conquered the Igbo city of Bonny and turned the natives to your slaves?
Through Intermarriage?

I support this angle or hypotesis. Ndoki dialect of Igbo was the aboriginal language but was almost displaced just like the Ibibiod language in those axis before the coming of the slave trade that saw a mass influx of Isuama dominated slaves into the Island. This move single-handedly revived the language and push the Kalabari dialect now dubiously called Ibani into submission. What Ijaw pirates couldn't achieve in Bonny/Opobo, they succeded in Brass, Nembe, Kalabari and in some sections of Okrika.

Today the Ijaw labdgrabbers led by Alagoa the fraud, are trying to push Kalabari dialect called Ibani into Bonny mainstream. "The speak Ibani initiative, the stop speaking Igbo", "the revive your Ibani mother tongue", "the stop saying biko but Ibama", etc has been part of this agenda since Adaka Boro couldn't wipe off the people during the civil war genocide.

The game is now exposed. Ndigbo over to you.

BKayy:
I've realised that these Jo men that talk about Baikie didn't read his book at all.

From page 334 to 336, Baikie met Peppel who told him the identity, how his family got the name Peppel, language and original name of Bonny.

Page 335 has been circulated here alot but many did not know that it was an interview. William Balfour Baikie interviewed Peppel live and got this answers from him.

This three pages deserve a new thread (Peppels interview by Baikie on his name, Bonny Language and identity)

Hi nwannem. Join us in our group bro. If there's any hinderance we can help solve it. We need links to those references you posted. What says you?

We will regret sacking Rohr. It was obvious he needed a technical assistant. What stops the NFF from supporting him in that regard.

To even think they brough back Eguavoen. Eguavoen of all coaches. Watch as the clown take us back to the Super Eagles of settlements, man-know-man and selling matches. Tufia!

I acknowledge the Yoruba’s for their political sophistication (whether you call it tribal politics na u sabi). According to Chief Akande, GEJ called him to seek help with names of SW PDP nominees presented to the party for Speakership. Akande notified GEJ to instead allow them the ACN produce the Speaker of the House as was done in the US, where the opposition participate in governance but the President switched off the call.

Ndigbo on Nairaland politics section what did you learn from this tale? Interest! Political & ethnic interest. The SW ACN supported Tambuwal because it will benefit their long-term plan of promoting the agenda that GEJ marginalized the SW so they can get to the centre with Tinubu and co at the helms of affairs instead of Obasanjo running the show.

Under GEJ, Ndigbo played politics of no identity, anywhere-belle-face and chop-clean-mouth-forget-tomorrow. Rather than pursue our interest first and long term agenda, Igbo leaders decided to be swayed by GEJ “I’m one of you” and my name is “Azikiwe” daftish mentally to follow GEJ.

Today, clowns and businessmen like MrChukwudi and Mr Vitalist are still pushing Ndigbo to toe the same stupidity their ancestors did under GEJ & Obasanjo.

Tinubuadvocate:
In 2023 a Yoruba man will emerge this useless people will crying very well .

And what will happen if a Yoruba man don't emerge. You lots have done your turn with Obasanjo. Go siddon.

Please check out the voting statistics. Despite having an Igbo in NRC as running mate to Tofa, Igbo still gave Abiola a chunk of large votes.

Some misinformation have been peddled online for far too much by some mischief makers from the SW.

It was on record that Abiola SDP got massive vote from the 4 SE States of Anambra, Enugu, Abia and IMO in the 1993 general elections.

In 1993 the Igbo's threw tribalism to the dust and voted with their conscience despite their own brother as VP running mate to Tofa's NRC.
Dr Sylvester Ugo as running mate to Bashir Tofa wasn't enough to deny Abiola the votes from the SE.
It was on record that Abiola won Anambra state and still garnered over 40% of votes in other SE states as Abia, Enugu and Imo.

Below are graphical representation of the votes and how each States voted.
The aim is to dispel the historical distortions spread by some propagandist from the SW and for posterity sake here on Nairaland.
The Igbo have stood behind Southern alliance in time past from voting Abiola, Obasanjo and GEJ. They've also voted northerners even against their own

Yet, some mischief makers still want to deny the Igbo's such gestures from their part. The Igbo's have voted Yoruba candidate, the onus lies on the SW to show us when since 1960 they've stood behind an Igbo candidate.
Those who come to equity must come with clean hands.

I wrote a piece about this before. Here's the link.
https://www.nairaland.com/5505636/igbos-voted-abiola-1993-proof

Eastlandx:
He is Ijaw, I don't know why some of you are dumb not to see it

Maybe they will understand when we begin to unearth his/her numerous red flags.

ChinenyeN:
Lol. It’s because you don’t know the meaning and origin of the expression “Ibani na madu” that you think you’ve come across some revelation.

“Ibani na madu” is simply how Ngwa and Ndoki used to greet Bonny and Opobo people back in this day. Lol abeg this is too funny.

I’m here congratulating Umuafo Ubani in their attempts at reconciliation and reunification, and you’re upset. Reconciliation and reunification is a good thing. Or is it that you don’t want Opobo’s Igbo-speaking influence to continue spreading through Bonny? It sounds very suspicious to me that you would want to block that.

Shifting the goal post. Ibani na madhu in a thread where a serial Ijawlandgrabber opened for a different intention.

IDENNAA:
Ignore him. He is an attention seeker, and no he is not Ijaw. He is butthurt because we used to mock and bully him here....lol. I used to mock and denigrate his ngwa people as culturally inferior, though , I don't do those things anymore. Odumchi and other also used to tease him for writing gibberish nobody could read. Chinenye Igbo hate started on Nairaland and now he is an Ijaw ally.

The only tradition of his people he remembered is egwu mgbede....lmao

Being an Ijaw ally is a red flag. A person who comes up to defend Ijaw landgrabbers against her so-called ethnic group each time Bonny/Opobo issue is dragged. How about I show you a screenshot where he exposed himself? Take a look so that you calm the defending. Chinenye is the owner of the IMEMBA monicker, Ijawgirl and several other monikers. I want to believe he/she have been operating under your noses since ages. Always trying to divide Ndigbo. Ngwa and Ikwerre was where he/she successfully test run that divisive tendency.

Check the link below before you Chinenye does any edits to it.
https://www.nairaland.com/782463/ibani-kingdoms-grand-bonny-opobo-first

ChinenyeN:
Feel free to have your Igbo propagandist feathers as ruffled as you like over my identity and ethnic affiliations, but I’m obviously a proud Ngwa, Alayi and Igbo man, and I’ve come to accept that you all are just simply obsessed with me. It’s a little bit of an unhealthy obsession that you all have, but that’s okay. You’re simply my fans, and I’ll take that for what it is. So don’t worry, I’m not going anywhere. I will always bless my fans with more of me to come.

An old Leopard can never hide it's spot. So how did you do it Mr Ijaw?
For long you fooled a lot of Igbos (except me), because the signs were there.

Igboid:
I can't believe that ChinenyeN managed to keep her non Igbo origin hidden this long.
Even on this thread, you can see her pandering to Ijaws revisionist opinions while claiming neutral.
She was raising all the red flags of of an impostor even then.

Glad you could see. When I told you guys that Ijaws began this renewed anti-Igbo divisive battle in early 2000's you thought I was lieing.

EmekaBlue:
Chelsea don win

God punish that plastic fan above somewhere that said Tuchel out i hate fragile idiots like u

Na Man U fan be that.

9Pluto:
At rate you guys are going, I have to beg you to stop researching ooo. Don't know what else you may discover.

This thread has already proven what truth is out there, to the eternal memory of King Jaja whose indelible prints have been left in the sands of time as a King in deed and in truth.

Lol . I tell you. Make someone don't find pandora box beneath the dug side.

yorubademon24:
chai damn! plz do you any snippet for this

Yeah, I’ll find it. Jugbo Jugbo-Fem is what I meant. Corrected.

yorubademon24:
for more clarification, jubo and jubogha are not Ijaw names from my finding only a few families bear that name in port Harcourt, jubogha aren't a widespread name I was only able to come across one person with such name.

No Ijaw miscreant from Bayelsa or delta state bears that name. the name is only restricted to opobo natives just like Kalu and Kanu is restricted to the aros and bende plz take note.

9pluto
slayerforever
igboid
mancoconut
ekealterego
bkayy.
ofoIgbo

Jaja’s Bonny name is Juwo Juwo not Jubo Jubogha the fraudulent Ijaw name Alagoa game to him in his fake book called King Jaja of Opobo.

My mistake
I meant Jugbo Jugbo-Fem not Jugbo Jugbogha