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do4luv14:
abeg wen our U23 dey play sudan nah

cc papa Aribo,tbaba1234, sir Andrewwwwwww

It's today. 4pm naija time.

charlesemeka85:
My brother nothing person no go see for this forum I swear. The admin of this thread needs to do something asap

All of them Wan be the new Afo whatever his name is.

charlesemeka85:
Why call me names because I posted something here which I got online? This forum is becoming something else and needs thorough changes?

And who da f****k are you to call me names? Nothing wey person no see here oooooo! This insult is getting out of hands here and something urgent needs to be done about it

Ignore the fool.

Preetychina22:
You talk too much like your mother. Chu chu chu chu. chu.
You probably grew up in a face-me-I-face-you compound? That's why you support tsotis.

Says the idiot that quoted my post. You and mother don't talk at all because you both have dirty smelling Nigerian drug dealing dicks in your mouth 90 percent of the time.
Face me I face you is much better than the garbage you lived at back in Hilbrow.
Thank your lucky stars you were deported. One more dick in your mouth and you'd have did a caitlyn Jenner like your dad. Guess that's what it means to break generational curses

charlesemeka85:
Thanks brother. So many here don't see the positives you pointed out here but holds onto the negatives as references always.

All they want is barca and man City style of football but forget without a good foundation such can't be actualized.

Tactically Rohr is not the best but atleast have done well with the team right from the world cup, afcon qualifiers and both competitions proper.

When it comes to mentorship and man management the German is top notch. He have been able to build a good relationship with the players and as well advise them with regards to career progression and moves.


Many here don't know the role Rohr played in advising first omeruo to ditch the Turkish league for laliga, then followed by awaziem change of mind from remaining in turkey to moving to laliga, simons loan move to Nantes, onyekuru's move to monaco and oshimeh's move to Lille. All we do is castigated and yell in a faceless forum without knowing what is happening behind the scene.

Yep. I've accepted sacrificing attacking football is the price we'll pay for all the good things he has brought into the side.
Of course I'll still be frustrated occasionally with the guy - but we need to give him credit when due.

Well done Lagos Police Command. A thief is a thief. Xenophobia is not an excuse to act like the animals you hate.

benji93:
What is the bases for your argument. Achieved far more? Are you kidding me! Far more than who? Which foundation? Let's just say he is lucky that Nigerian players plying their trade overseas are balling right now. As much as i don't support the act of taking bribes, but these foreign coaches get paid at least twice their local counterparts, woe betide him if he doesn't deliver. Do you know how many times Nigeria has claimed third place at the nations cup? Which kind foundation, was he the one that groomed those kids. How do you even lose to Madagascar? And don't even tell me he used the second team cos that's a lie. Nigeria can do better than Rohr. Since Nff does not want to pay him 1 million dollars for dismissal, we will see where he steers this ship to. Rohr has a lot to learn has a coach, the guy can be completely clueless in the heat of the moment. Abi him dey pay you for publicity ni?

I don't like the football we play under him but Rohr has brought a bit of structure into our team.
The guy is what you call a proper manager. He can of course do better tactically but I'm greatful he's building a team for the next reasonable coach to take over from.
WE just need to look at the positives.

junnyjake:
E don do abeg.

you no de tire

Oga no vex. I go stop now..

Earthquake1:
How many buy back clauses have been activated

Madrid are the ones making it in vogue these days.

kennysville:
Er.... and move to where? Be honest , how much will his bid be? Person wen dem nor give game time. And you think leicester have finished with him abi? Where is the returns in their investment? My friend, business is not done that way. 25million investment with less than 600mins of soccer in 2years? In it all, Leicester is the one losing. No one is exactly gonna table a 60million pound bid for Iheanacho. You and I know thats not gonna happen. Hence the buy out clause is the problem. It all should make sense why Iheanacho is comfortable with the current scenario. He is smiling to the bank. Shikena!

At the end of it all, by the end of his contract, if he doesnt come good and strong, his value will be in like 8mil which I am soooo sure Man city will pass up on.

The buy out clause is irrelevant. It was just put there just to be safe.
City will wave that clause when the time come. Leicester are the ones that hold the key. Anyone using that clause as an excuse is not being truthful. Do you know how many times buy out clauses have been waved aside? Abegi.

TheGoodJoe:
You clearly did not read the article you posted. Try reading it than flooding the thread with misconceptions.

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No other club except the selling club can pay the fee agreed while negotiating and in maximum cases, the player would have to go back to the parent club when they call for him. The player does not have a say in it and is powerless.

Nacho can push for a move if he wants!! Man City Will wave that clause. Stop with all these excuses already!!

Preetychina22:
I hope you and your parents have eaten today. Things will like be hard since your mom left prostitution due to old age and bleaching.
Drop your pride. Just send your account number. I'll transfer money for you to buy 1 carton of indomie and a bottle of ogogoro for your father.
It is well.

LOL we all know my lunch money at primary school was more than your mom got from being a hoe at Melville.
Don't forget if my dad didn't get your pops that cleaning job at the consulate - he was already going to be a male prostitute sucking dick for R2 a pop.
Don't start feeling fancy because your mom is now sucking Teko Modise dick and getting small change now.
I won't be around to save your mom from being molested and raped by high school kids. Anyways it won't matter anyways - we all know she's got Aids already.

Earthquake1:
He's insinuating that Leicester have no right to sell Iheanacho above 50million

I've never heard of that

That's madness. City can stop by activating the clause or Leicester will sell for as much as possible.
This is obvious from the Hermoso example I gave.

kennysville:
A player that doesnt get game time doesnt get to show what he can do and so it does have everything to do with the 50m buy back clause. If you ask me, Iheanacho's career is a business transaction. Plain and simple. Even though he gonna be smiling to the bank, he aint gonna get the chance to show what he can do. I am just hoping this contract ends soon enough.
Its time people advised our young players to steer clear big clubs so they dont end up in problems

The 50m clause will not stop him from moving.
Nacho isn't getting game time because he hasn't been good enough. You people keep forgetting Leicester spent 25m on him which was a big deal for them 2 years ago.
Nacho wants to move, he will move. His agent can push for a move. City will wave that clause because as it is, even Leicester won't make a profit from the 25m they paid for him

Earthquake1:
Man City don't have any rights to any profit made from Iheanacho's sale

Their only part in the contract is activating the 50m buy back clause or not

Exactly. It's either they activated it or they don't.
Clause is simple and straightforward. I don't know what goodjoe is debating about.

kennysville:
You are looking at it from a different angle. Lemme paint it for ya. A club approaches leicester to buy iheanacho, if the deal is in the excess of 50 mil, say 80mil. Leicester is obliged to notify City. If that happenes, the maximum that leicester can get from it is 50mil and no more. What happens after that is immaterial. If city dont need him, they will sell him @ the 80mil, this pocketing extra 30mil, recouping their money from the buy back clause. Hope u got the picture?

Just as an example

Isn't that what we've been saying all along? How can you say the clause is what is stopping Nacho from moving?

TheGoodJoe:
That is why I said we need to sieve through the contract. The Author is putting these down to give us a window into how Buy back clauses work. It is not as simple as you guys think. That is what I have been singing all day.

Now the conditions above are mainly due to the player doing well. They are conditions also for if the player is not doing well.

It is not a letter Leicester City signed with Manchester City but a contract.

Contracts comes with clauses, terms and conditions.

Finito.

I give up. When Nacho eventually decides to leave, I'll remind you about this convo

TheGoodJoe:
You do not know the full details of the contract. The only way you can know is unless you or someone who has the contract and releases all terms and conditions.

Read and understand the article you posted to get a clearer picture.

WE knows the basics: cost of transfer and buyback clause. 25m and 50m. Nothing more, nothing less.

TheGoodJoe:
At least read this excerpt and get the point.

Buy-back clause is not that easy as it sounds. The main complication arises when the parent club wants to take the player back. But at what fee? Like I said above, the fee is decided before the deal happens, but it’s not that simple.

There can be different sets of fees included in the contract. Below are a few examples of how certain clauses work,

- If the player is bought back in the first two summer transfer window, the parent club would have to pay say the agreed fee. But every window after that, the club would have to pay an extra £5m.

- If the player is called up by the national team, an extra fee would have to be paid by the club.

- If the player is a striker and scores 10+ goals in the 38 league matches, then some extra fee would be included.

- If the player plays at least 60 minutes in 50% of all the matches- league, cups, European competition.

This does not go for all buyback clauses!! Don't you get it? City can activate the buyout clause 5 years from now for the same amount!! It's in the contract!

Earthquake1:
This case is very simple

I wonder why TheGoodJoe is dragging it

Exactly. Leicester will let Nacho leave when they want... Not because of City's buy back clause.

TheGoodJoe:
You are still missing it.

50m is if Iheanacho does well and clubs are will to sign him for over 50m. Leicester City will ask Manchester City if they want to collect him for 50m or the other club can collect him. City can reject or not.

So now, Nacho is not doing well, due to Leicester City not giving him playing time. If a club comes with 10m to buy Nacho, do you think Leicester City will still ask for 50m? That is horrendously hilarious.

No. I can bet that the buy back clause condition inside there would be 50% of the bidding price which will be 5m. It is a win situation for City.

It's not if Nacho does well... It was just put by City as a safety measure. Madrid does this with many of their young players... It's normally hit and miss.
There are no performance requirements for that clause. It's either city activates it or not when the time comes.

TheGoodJoe:
Sorry but contracts are contracts. What you say there is an example of conditions inserted in a contract. No one said it is mandatory. I am telling you that you have to sieve through the pages of the contract to understand what we are dealing with. No contract, especially in a case like this is simple and straightforward.

If there were such - we'd know of it. How did we then know of the details of Hermoso, Vela, etc contracts which were as complex as you say?
Nacho's buyback clause is straightforward and simple.

Preetychina22:
Because your mother sucks you and swallow doesn't mean it's normal. It's a taboo. Both of you probably fantasize about a party with AKA
#teamAKA

Ycee, Burna and Peruzzi gangbanged your mom and had their dog join in hence why you are defending them because they threatened to expose her.
Don't worry I won't judge you. Your mother was never good with handling her liquor. I saw it the only time I ever went to Hilbrow as a kid.
Tut tut tut...

TheGoodJoe:
Manchester City will not bother or activate except;

They want Nacho back for some reasons (which is not the case)
Or, Leicester City wants to sell.

Leicester City are not free to sell Iheanacho without first contacting City.

That is what I've saying since Na!! City will be contacted and asked if they want to activate the 50m clause. They'll most likely say no and Nacho will move on.
Look at this part of the article I posted.... "and City have inserted a clause to buy him back for £50m. Leicester were happy to agree to the clause, as they will double their money in the event of the forward proving a massive hit in the East Midlands"
Now why would Leicester want to sabotage the change of getting double their money in the event that Nacho does well?
We are starting to go in circles with this

TheGoodJoe:
- If the player plays at least 60 minutes in 50% of all the matches- league, cups, European competition.

Did you read this section in the article you posted earlier? There are conditions that goes with contracts. It is not happen like that, if not it will not take pages before signing.

By the way, a buy back clause is like a loan system with transfer fees involved. The parent club still has a big say. That is why they can recall the player based on the conditions in the contract.

My God!! That is NOT mandatory for all sales with buy back clauses. City did not put those requirements as part of the sale.
I already showed you an example in Hermosos move of a complex buy back clause. Nacho is simple and straightforward. 50m, no sell on clause. Shikena.

TheGoodJoe:
You are missing the point.

The 50m is if Iheanacho flourishes.

Now what is on ground is the opposite. Nacho is not flourishing and no club is going to bid even the price Leicester City paid because of Leicester City neglecting propelling the player they signed.

We need to sieve through the pages of the contract to know what happens in case of tanking.

Maybe you have not read contract papers and see how clauses are inserted.

And I'm telling you that City can activate that clause today if they wanted to.
They won't because they don't need him and Leicester are free to sell him for whatever amount.
If they were any additional clause(s) they would have announced it.

TheGoodJoe:
Was the said player neglected by the club? Did the club limit the playing opportunity of the player in question? What you are posting here shows you are totally oblivious to the point. It is clear.

What exactly does Nacho being "neglected" have to do with a FIXED 50m buy back clause? Is Nacho on loan at Leicester that he has to play a certain number of games?
Leicester didn't "limit" Nacho's play time - he wasn't good enough to break into the first 11.
He is their player and City can't dictate how Leicester use a player they BOUGHT OUTRIGHT for 25m.

TheGoodJoe:
Now, when 'B' wants to sell the house to say 'C', he cannot do so before asking 'A'.

I already said that!!

Preetychina22:
If you father is too drunk call your mother.

Tell your mother I said she should have swallowed you instead.

TheGoodJoe:
Can you show me a place in the article you posted or another place where they said a fixed amount. Please, you just made that up.

I hope you know a contract is not a statement but could span pages with clauses.

Seriously oga Goodjoe? Its right in your face. OK make I screenshot am this time.

TheGoodJoe:
Now, when 'B' wants to sell the house to say 'C', he cannot do so before asking 'A'. 'A' has the first option of deciding whether he wants to buy back his house or not. If 'A' decides to buy back the house, he would have to pay a certain fee, stated in the contract

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There can be different sets of fees included in the contract.

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This is from the article you posted. Leicester City can not ask Manchester City to activate a 50m fee when;

The player has not progressed under their watch
They will not get an offer over the 25m they paid
The player has not gotten enough playing time.

If these clauses are in the contract, just like the article stated of the player’s cost increasing as time goes by, it can reduce which will not make the deal attractive for Leicester but juicy for Manchester City.

The clause is straightforward - 50m if City wants him back. Now let me show an example of forging a buy out albeit one that is a bit more complex...


Atletico Madrid confirm Mario Hermoso signing
By Football Espana staff

Atletico Madrid have completed the signing of Espanyol defender Mario Hermoso on a deal worth an initial €25m, it has been confirmed.

The transfer will include a further €4m in add-ons and the Catalan club will retain 20% of any future sale of the defender, with his previous €40m release clause negotiated upon.

It has been confirmed that Hermoso has penned a five-year contract at Atleti, with the deal coming within 24 hours of the club also confirming the arrival of right-back Kieran Trippier from Tottenham.

The centre-half follows Felipe Monteiro to Atleti, another central defender who joined from FC Porto in a €20m deal while left-back Renan Lodi has also arrived from Brazil.

It had initially been claimed that Espanyol were reluctant to sell for below the player’s release clause but the central defender’s insistence on wanting a move looks to have forced them into an agreement.

Hermoso only joined the Catalan club in 2017 from Real Madrid in a €400k deal while he had a contract until 2020 with a €40m release clause in place.

Madrid possessed a €15m buyback clause while they also still owned 50% of his rights, meaning they could have sign him for half that price, but have instead netted half of the transfer fee to Atleti.

Hermoso has won two caps for the Spain national team within the last year while he impressed for Espanyol across 35 first-team appearances this campaign.

Hermoso previously spent a season on loan at Real Valladolid in La Liga 123.

TheGoodJoe:
Can you show me where you saw fixed amount? The article you posted clearly gave an insight into how buy back clauses contract work and I have taken the liberty to expantiate it. What you are posting here is totally devoid of the point.

The point is Nacho has not progressed mainly due to Leicester City's negligence. If they want to sell, they will go to City and City will have to work with the contract, determine a price to buy and it might not favor Leicester.

But with the striker now poised to officially become a Leicester player, it has emerged that Manchester City have struck an agreement which will see them given the first option to re-sign the 20-year-old if he proves a success at the King Power Stadium.

Iheanacho remains highly thought of at the Etihad Stadium, after progressing through the club's academy, and City have inserted a clause to buy him back for £50m. Leicester were happy to agree to the clause, as they will double their money in the event of the forward proving a massive hit in the East Midlands.
50m is the fixed amount City can buy him for whenever they please.