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WORDWORLD:
I purposely asked that question as regards if God is also Spirit. Because am so confuse. If God is spirit and Jesus too is spirit that should mean that Jesus too is a God only that with the first verse you quoted he is not greater but he is a God as well. Hence son of God so that when the Father dies he will take over. IF NOT A GOD TOO WHAT IS IT THAT QUALIFIES HIM AS SON OF GOD IF NOT LIKE HIS FATHER?

I have reteirated this time and again, there is no confusion here except you choose to intentionally get confused, reason why i have simply put and articulated my words in plain grammar! If God can create adam in human form, pray tell? can he not create another spirit and call him his son? And by the way, jesus taking over? That is as laughable as it gets, how does an immortal being die? By the way please go back to that verse and read again!

@bolded
John 14.6:Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

And that verse above "i am ascending to my Father and YOUR FATHER, to my God and YOUR GOD"
"YOUR FATHER"?! Is God our Father too like God is Jesus' father and we are God's sons and daughter too like Jesus is his son? So that when Jesus to dies the next person will take over since Jesus is the first born. AND HOW IS GOD OUR FATHER SINCE WE ARE NOT SPIRITS LIKE JESUS?

This is just plain english toying with you, don't let words take a hold of you, for instance, if i say to a neighbour, my father in heaven will judge you for hitting me, does he take the word "father" for the one that biologically produced me or my heavenly father? You should relate this with your comment! As christians we regard God as father, it is allowed!

What differentiates us from jesus and further confirms he being the son of God are, he existed in the spirit form before coming to save us, many prophets had prophesised his coming, he was born out of a virgin, i could go on and on!

Till now i haven't gotten the point you tryna drive

Mariinee:
The same meanings indeed.

I know enough about it to know it's just a book. It's not hilarious, it's the truth.

Alright then....you are hard to convince!

Enjoy

WORDWORLD:
Thank you so much am so grateful. But i still want some clarification. Is God spirit too?

@bolded, i already pointed it out bro

in the beginning when God said "let us create man in our own image! by what knowledge do you think he was referring to?

The word "God" is attributable to the one we call the father, it is a title,he alone is worthy of the name, then there is the son and then the holy spirit, all three existing as spirits, mind you i never mentioned trinity!some Christians have misconstrued that word and by that call Jesus God! Jesus is never God, he existed as a spirit while with God and came to the earth in human flesh to die for our sins as commanded by God!

in his few teachings, Jesus always regarded God as his father and he' his son..By the words of Jesus , he is the son of God!

Jesus is not God!

John 14:28. “"You heard me say, 'I am going away and I am coming back to you.' If you loved me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I.”

John 17:1–3. “After Jesus said this, he looked toward heaven and prayed: “Father, the hour has come. Glorify your Son, that your Son may glorify you.

John 20:17. “Jesus said, "Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, 'I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.'"”

Jesus either regarded himself as son of man or son of God, he existed as a spirit in heaven, yet even in human form, he still possessed such powers worthy of God's son!

WORDWORLD:
Brother, "trying to put you in a tight spot", why should that be?! What i seek is CLARITY.

Now to your post which you have refered me to again,



It is that statement that made me ask if it was GOD that came to the earth in Human Flesh. Who was he before coming in human flesh? God?! Now you have said he is not God but son of God. How can this be if Jesus too is not a GOD? WHO IS JESUS IF HE HAS TO COME IN HUMAN FLESH AND YET NOT HUMAN AND YOU HAVE SAID THAT HE IS NOT GOD? What attributes does he share that qualify him as the son of God. Or is it a mere title. edimolu Please help me!

in the beginning when God said "let us create man in our own image! by what knowledge do you think he was referring to?

The word "God" is attributable to the one we call the father, it is a title,he alone is worthy of the name, then there is the son and then the holy spirit, all three existing as spirits, mind you i never mentioned trinity! some Christians have misconstrued that word and by that call Jesus God! Jesus is never God, he existed as a spirit while with God and came to the earth in human flesh to die for our sins as commanded by God!

in his few teachings, Jesus always regarded God as his father and he' his son..By the words of Jesus , he is the son of God!

Jesus is not God!

Mariinee:
Doctrines is using different versions of ONE book, a holy book of God? Lmao.
I will say it again, the bible is a badly corrupted book...it's not holy, it's just a book.

different versions? yes..but it holds the same meanings in all entirety!

still repeating it? you even had to emphasize using the word "just"...lol..how much do you even know about the bible to reach such hilarious conclusion?

WORDWORLD:
Are you saying that Jesus is not God that "came to the earth in human flesh"?! That is what am trying to verify?

i know you trying to put me in a tight spot! lol

well as far as i know, jesus is not God, jesus during his earthly period never claimed being God, he is the son of God!

now hold on, before you hit me with usual weak punch, "why is son different from the father",? please do well to read again my post to which you quoted!

peace

Mariinee:
It's not blasphemy, it's the truth. If the bible was the truth, it wouldn't have so many versions and different churches wouldn't use different versions, some are even writing their own bible, that's blasphemy.
And I don't put anything to anybody's neck, anyone can say whatever they like.

we call it doctrines dear, every church has its way of churching, yet serving the same God still binds us together as one and that can never be neglected!

Nevertheless, the fact that Christianity alongside the bible holds contradictive claims doesn't make the bible badly corrupt...that is too much to have asserted....

you can abuse me all you want,i won't fight back, never! but do not talk ill of a holy book!

peace

tommynico:
To the best of my knowledge, the trinity can be likened to the relationship between pharaoh and Joseph when he declared Joseph the ruler of all of Egypt, and it is only by his position on the throne will he be greater than him. God is the eternal king of all ages, Jesus is his firstborn who was with him from the very beginning of creation as he is God's word. And when he was crucified, he ascended up to heaven and God himself gave him a sit at his right-hand with a name that is above all and every other name in heaven, on earth and or in other realms of creation. The holy spirit in thesame way is the spirit of God the father that was released or sent to dwell in the hearts and amidst of those that are righteous and faithful, those who believe in the teachings of Jesus and have accepted him as their Lord and saviour. In veiw of this, there are two ways by which a man can walk, good or evil, one leads to eternal glory and comfort with unparalleled joy and happiness, while the other leads to eternal judgement and pain, anguish, regret and suffering.
All we have to do is to choose that which appeals to us but not without learning first of the benefits attached and that's more reason why God sent his son as an emissary of his kingdom to plead and also forewarn us of our respective decisions and the choices we make. Let those that choose to believe in the word of God hold steadfast unto their Faith and be more fervent in their faithfulness, and those that have choosen ignorance instead of knowledge and wisdom do so and continue to thread on their path of blindness, the end will justify that which have been said from the beginning of time.

your brain power is a gift to humanity...you have spoken well!

especially the bolded!

cc worldword abi na wordworld sef

Mariinee:
I think you need the forgiveness more. Stop jumping on my mention.

that is blasphemy, and you should seek for his forgiveness! am sure if a xtian had said that around muslims, ya'll would be putting a dagger to his throat by now!...

peace

Tozara:
I'm fine too, bro. I hope your day has been wonderful.

wonderful? no...my day stubborn die,i suffer no be small today....but God dey!

Anyways am laying my head on something soft though,such consolation is required...am gonna hit you up soon...be good!

LadyMarionette:
Kai, my God will not agree o. He will vex and sit me down to tell me: Marion, I'm very disappointed in you. The reason I give you dissatisfaction and rebellious heart which manifests itself over time is so that you can inspire change. The world was not meant to be static. You don't expect me to wipe the slate clean every single time that I want progress. You are a dynamic system running on autopilot.

And I'll say: the man, whom you've created as the head, wants things to stay how you've made them.

Then he'll scoff: The man? Don't make me laugh. Haven't you learnt any thing from the parable of the talents? Give me fulfilled potential. Don't mind the man, he was only my first attempt at creating the human being, so he definitely isn't perfect. But you.....you are my opus magnum, and I'm counting on you to make this world what I intended for it to be. Do not let me down. Don't go back into the kitchen.

hhahahaha, funny you, your god might make mistakes...mine doesn't

Tozara:
Morning, boss. I hope you're good.

yes i am....you?

Mariinee:
Wrong. I'm amazed at how you think you know much about Islam just because of whatever you are able to pick up from the internet. Now, here is a simple lecture, you don't need to pay;
Islam has been right from the the time God created Adam. God sent Issa i.e Jesus down with the Injeel i.e the bible to the people of Nazareth. Then, when the Jews saw the miracles Jesus did and the miraculous way he was born,they started to call him Son of God and some called him god.
Christianity is a spinoff from Islam. Because the bible is the badly corrupted version of the Injeel and the Injeel is a holy book of faith in Islam.
Gabriel is Hebrew and Jubril is Arabic, it's just a simple case of languages difference. Arabic is the recognized language of Islam not Hebrew and that's why I said it's not recognized in Islam but you chose to make it about plagiarism or whatever you say.

You are not agnostic, you are only acting like one because you think it's cool.

may God forgive you!

WORDWORLD:
How is Jesus not a God too if he is the Son of God?! His he not like His father, God?

i pity you , you dey find wetin u no lost, jesus came to the earth in human flesh and existed not as a God but still called himself God's son!

Tozara:
Lol. It depends on the God he's talking about. Who respects a deity like Yahweh?

alright

good morning bro

Tozara:
That means God is anidiot

this aint right fam!

mumu pesin! why join him in the hotel if you aint gonna let him smash?..that is sheer wickedness

Before you even pronounce the letter "V" , i am already a thousand miles away

makydebbie:
Lol, correction taken. But that's how I'm in person I hardly smile. Lol.
°At bold, I'm working on it.

I trust you will...see you around

BluntBoy:
Abi

My love for the Word is extraordinary. The love started at first when as a kid I won a Bible quiz.

Really? You did? Great

Too bad, i have never won any church-related quiz, am not even a church goer, but am fervently working on changing that!

makydebbie:
Really?
Am I uptight with my words? I swear I never noticed.

How will you, if person quote you with smiley, na straight face u go take reply, dey shine teeth small small na, and you are also quick to anger!...your defences ehn, bring am down a notch biko..you and that poco gal..i swear life sweet no be small

BluntBoy:
Don't mind me, my brother I really missed the thread.

Where else would you be? You like bible no be small!

kimbraa:
I've a male friend I've known for seven years. When I said this once on NL virtually all the guys who mentioned me on that thread claimed I was bleeping him 'cause a guy can't be friends with a girl for that long. Going by Ubunja's comment, I could say you guys are confused. You say something now, and another the next minute. Having said that, I get your view point now.

Hahahahaha...that thread must have been so so lit!

Thanks , i got yours too even though you believe it is in the lowest minimum...

BluntBoy:
Most guys Are you kidding me, mhisbliss?

Where you travel go?

makydebbie:
Alot of "adults and old pas" don't respect their ages on here so what is it? The fact that her opinion doesn't sit with you doesn't make her a dunce nau.

Makky, you won't understand...i have no business with her opinion but the brain that sprouts it...

We could talk about things that hold water, e.g...why are you always uptight with your words?

Tozara:
For a worthwhile reason, I'm sure.

My day was fine.

Be catching trips...let her husband get a hold of your balls you have a message!

makydebbie:
Okay then, and stop the prejudice about 19 year olds.

Lol...that one is an obvious dunce...she is an embarrasment to that age!

makydebbie:
Sorry guys but lemme butt in.


When I created a thread concerning this topic you all are currently arguing about, most of the guys agreed with me. We were on the same page nau, what happened? Why did you leave my page without telling me?!

https://www.nairaland.com/4025368/friendship-opposite-sex
Help yourself.

Tozara and edimolu, even in my writeup, I said, there will be some extremely rare occasions when the guy wouldn't even like us (the ladies) but then, being 80% emotional, we would start getting emotionally attached to the guys and we would start catching feelings.

Now it's left to the guy to see it as an opportunity to leave the friend zone or remain there. It's very very rare to see a guy and a girl being 100% platonic. Unless, the guy is gay, they're not compatible, both are not physically attracted to eachother or one is married and lastly, they're both in a relationship which isn't even an excuse because when you get close to an extent, you'll start catching feelings, one of you. You may not necessarily agree with my writeup tho, because I spoke exclusively about male besties.

Fixed that!

Am glad our thoughts are aligned

kimbraa:
cc: Edimolu.

You have gotten me all wrongly defined dear...

From the onset, i never ruled out the possibilities of having a lustful or loved-up relationship amongst both genders, my point is, why generalise such claim?

It is true some guys add ladies to their contact list for the sole-purpose of sex, but should ubunja's response define every other guy out there! There are bunch of scenerios whereby both parties will never be sexually attracted to eachother till thy kingdom come...it all depends on what she thinks of you and vice-versa!

Saw your previous response...The ones you called your friends aren't truly your friends, they are caught up in the thorns of friendzone...you put them there!

AryaStark1:
MR OR MRS OR WHO EVER YOU ARE...... She Was Practically Giving Her Opinion On Boys Not Men ......Boys Are After P**sies they kid around they are not serious But Men are the real deal she should do a mass upgrade that would help

You is a confam

kimbraa:
You and Edimolu failed to grasp her point in a bid to defend your gender. She's right about that statement.

Good morning.

You are the one who has failed to understand her point in a bid to support her, did you read her second response to tozara?

She is as wrong as the word itself...she should stop generalising especially when her claim seems so non-evident..it connotes amateurism....

Good morning

Tozara:
Wow. This is just as ridiculous as saying, since there are some basic characters that can be associated with the female gender in general, it is perfectly okay to generalize when talking about women. Or, in fact, since there are basic characters that ALL humans share, we need not make distinctions between them, 'cause by virtue of having certain things in common, all humans must be the same. You're extraordinarily intelligent.

Her intelligence is top-notch

Way too dumb for a 19 year old....always at loggerheads with wisdom!