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Marion Berry . . . dark times in DC, lol.

Does the PDP even exist any more if they cannot maintain party unity?

Up President Emperor Adesegun Musiwa!

And here I was having the impression that Dallas is relatively safe. Anyway, condolences to the family.

At those trying to shout down this thread. . . it is better to know the truth and deal with it accordingly than deny it, imo.

^-- Hrm, maybe so. Not sure of the answer. Hopefully some others can chime in.

Heh. If you say so. You have your plan, we have ours. At some point, perhaps we will see who planned better. May the best man win.

Beaf:
While you're busy seeking funds and troops, we'll be busy declaring victory, sending all males of working age to farms and seeking luscious Ekiti women for mouth to mouth combat. lol

Heh. If Nigeria disintegrates tomorrow, enough money can be raised to achieve whatever objectives are needed on our borders, at least. I assure you of that.

Trained troops however are lacking, I must admit.

^-- Why would interest levels in school of Yoruba and Igbo be vastly different?

Let's say we look at the data and find out that far more Igbo are going to school than Yoruba. Say the gap is quite big.

I think then that either
1) Yoruba are less interested in school than Igbo
2) Igbo are more numerous than Yoruba
3) Yoruba are dumber than Igbo

I've not really seen much evidence for #1, personally. If it is there, someone let me know. Regarding #3, I certainly haven't seen evidence of that here in the US, at least as far as students at top schools go. Not to mention that there probably isn't much difference IQ-wise between different West African population (at least, this is my guess.)

So if it is safe to rule out #1 and #3, then why is #2 not a likely answer? Assuming that we have lots of data and find a big gap. Are there some factors I've missed?

Beaf:
How can you win without money and fuel? First, we'll take your oga for a life term in a mosquito infested swamp to build fish statues in the baking sun, day in day out; then we'll embark on an aggressive expansionist policy to grab villages which we will bulldoze and turn into leisure parks, leaving a few as reservations for the natives.
Ahhh, the life!

I've no problem fighting you for oil, if it comes down to that. Funds and troops can be found. We'll manage, one way or another.

Beaf:
Good, tell una oga to keep calling us derogatory names to add to the insult and very soon, we will vanquish una, cos we have all the lollies. lol

I'll tell him that. But if we win, then I'm adding Delta back to the Western region. Sounds fair?  

excanny:
I kind of think that the presence of a famous institution like OAU in Ile-Ife  could be one factor that encouraging youths in Osun to take more interest in education.

Ibadan has its own famous university, though. And Oyo State is far more populated than Osun. Anyway, I dunno what the deal is there.

Regarding the rest. . . from this data, assuming it is fine for us to accept it on face value (something I'm not sure about yet)  then I think it is fair to say that Igbo are #1 in pop, no? Isn't 100% certain, but certainly seems to suggest it, I think? Similarly, seems likely that the North is pretty empty, no?

Perhaps you are right. . . maybe warfare is the only way to resolve this issue once and for all.

^-- Interesting comment in that thread from one of the more astute posters on this forum:

[quote="Abaworo"]For more than 20 years,Imo state has continued to produce the most number of applicants,graduates and youth corpers in Nigeria.The educational gap between Imo and other states has widened but there is something bothering me.Imo state has the most number of job seekers and unemployed graduates in Nigeria.We(Imo citizens) need to industrialise our state in order to create opportunities for our teeming unemployed graduates since they are discriminated against by other states and Fg firms.[/quote]https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-537888.0.html#msg7003487

I'd really like to see more data. Is there graduate state-of-origin data available? Youth corps data?

Hmm, very interesting.

BTW it seemed very odd to me that Osun had more than Ogun or Oyo. . .? Why is that? Osun is certainly much less populated than those other two states, I think. Do they spend more on education there? Do Osun people care more about education than other Yoruba (possible, but seems odd.) Are lots of adults taking JAMB in Osun, but only youths elsewhere. . . ?

This data raises a lot of questions.

Beaf:
In the meantime there should be some degree of shame in actually wanting more free money like its fine to lay back and be on welfare. Thats laziness.

Only shame I feel is that imo the money isn't being efficiently spent, and that several of my states have low IGR. But aside from that, what is there to be ashamed about? Income is income.

lagos has vast quantities of tar sands and maybe some oil of their own, so they can seek to develop that and tourism, instead of seeking for free money shamelessly.

Why not enjoy both? That is an even better option.

And even going as far as saying ND states are depriving states that to put it bluntly are leaches.

Well, I never said this. . . and personally don't think it. The current allocation %ages are approximately reasonable.

Like the US put it, the ND is like an occupied territoty by the rest of the country.

Might not be wrong. However, if you have oil wealth, you'll be manipulated/dominated by one entity or another. Such is the way of the world.

*shrug*

It is what it is. Isn't as if there is much you can do to stop non-ND states from enjoying "your" oil.

The rules of the game are as they are. . . and it will take some effort to revise them.

With that said, I do support (to some extent) greater control over local resources.

^-- Can you post a link to the raw data for that graph too?

Very informative!

Also, it is what it is. They produce the oil, so should get a larger share of the oil money, imo. Fair is fair.

Let no man claim that Lagos is starving someone else's port. Study the coastline of Nigeria very well. Lagos is simply one of the most suitable ports for big boats in all of West Africa. Not much dredging and improvement needed. . . unlike its competitors, which will likely require billions of dollars in investment to be competitive (from a shipper's perspective.)

British were no dummies when they chose Lagos as their major port city. Certainly isn't out of some love of the Yoruba, or something. Quality is quality.

And with that said, the piddling allocation money that Lagos gets from the Nigerian FG is not enough, in light of the VAT revenue and port money Lagos brings.

honeric01:
^^^

Lagos was starved of funds, but until Yaradua took over.

By that b.a.s.t.ard OBJ, yes. At times I hate that m*f*er.

since 1991, the FG has refused to build any new road in Lagos, can someone point out to what the FG has done in Lagos since 1991?

Excellent question.

One more thing, the Agege motor road belongs to the FG, but that road is an eyesore to the whole of Lagos, you can't drive through it and traffic now last into 1am in the morning, i had to take bike home yesterday and i spent close to 2hours on that road even on a bike, not to talk of those who were in the buses/cars e.t.c

Sucks!!!

Indeed. The FG has abandoned Lagos. That it is still being considered at all amongst these other 139 major cities despite no federal assistance and major immigration is a major accomplishment.

^-- I didn't finish reading through the thread before I made that comment. It only later became clear to me that state of origin is what one writes down (I didn't grow up in Nigeria, so wouldn't be aware of some of these details.)

Still though, I'd like to see the raw state-by-state data, rather than that aggregated over zones. Doesn't seem to be available on the JAMB site any more.

afam4eva:
I don't think lagos is starved of funds. Contrary to that I believe the status of lagos is depriving other states of the benefit that should be accruing to them.

I dunno. Seems to me that it doesn't get much in the way of VAT revenue relative to what it contributes. Doesn't get any port money. No FG investment or infrastructure projects.

Beaf:
We need to open up the ports in Warri, Port Hacourt and Calabar for business.

Are these ports not open? I'm pretty sure PH and Calabar are both open. Just less profitable to ship up a river than to ship by sea.

They have been starved off business and Lagos has gained; that way other states would contribute to Nigeria's VAT takings and trade would be dispersed, thus reducing the population in Lagos.

This is a very, very strong allegation. Do you have any evidence for it?

Whats the reason why all the port business was moved to Lagos anyway?

See my first comment.