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I dunno. What else pays more out of college than engineering?

Trading jobs on Wall Street, I guess? Only finance related stuff, really. Or computer science jobs at elite, elite firms.

It honestly isn't as bad financially as you make out, Ileke-Idi.

bah @ Sefago saying the same thing earlier

Ileke-IdI:
Engineering doesnt pay much o, nothing at all.

It depends. The big-name companies offer pretty decent starting compensation, 65k+ or so iirc. I agree, the increase in salary over time doesn't compare to something like investment banking or finance related careers.

It really depends on how much money you want. The prestige of engineering is pretty high though.

SEFAGO:
Thats the Nigerian thinking- parents thinking they know more than their kids.

Parents generally DO know more than their kids.

If someone studies what they are not good at they are likely to be jobless more than someone who studies what they are passionate about and excel in that field.

This is a separate issue. If a parent is silly enough to force their not-particularly-bright kid into something academically challenging, probably will not work out to well. So I'm assuming that the parent has identified the strengths/weaknesses of their kid. Your point is probably that most Nigerian parents don't do a good job with this strength/weakness part. You might be right about that; I wouldn't know.

But assuming that the parent has taken this factor into account, they are often the best person to advise their child on a career.

Kids at 16-17 dont wander aimlessly, most have a good idea of what they want to do and what they like to study. Yes, they might not be thinking of career prospects now, but they know what they like and what they dont like.

Disagree strongly with the above. Knowing what you like or don't like isn't enough. What is more important is how much things pay. If you like something that pays a bad salary. . . well, you'd better pick something that you like a little bit less but that pays more.

What I have a problem with is parents making their kids study medicine, engineering or law when those kids dont like it or do not enjoy it. So they spend the rest of their life hating stuff they study.

Alright, so I've made the assumption that the parent isn't pushing their child to study something they absolutely hate, or have no aptitude for. This is certainly an assumption, but not an unreasonable one, I think.

Medicine/law/Engineering is not for everyone and most of these people could have been better off studying pure mathematics or physics/neuroscience or even gasp history or political science

Studying pure math is dangerous, unless you are very good at math. The jobs prospects for a mediocre mathematician aren't really that great. Same for physics and neuroscience. . . probably become a high school teacher or something. Which pays terribly.

But if you are a mediocre engineer, you can still get a $65k+ job out of college.

Lol @ history or political science. Those are fine as 2nd majors, but majoring in that alone is generally not a good idea if you want to be financially secure in life. Though of course if you plan on going to law school, history/poli sci are fine majors.

Ileke-IdI:
GBAM!!

Yoruba parents wants their daughters to be doctors and their sons to be engineers/lawyers

Nothing wrong with that. My approved career list is as follows:

Doctor
Lawyer
Engineer
Economics major at elite school, e.g. Harvard

Only way I'll be happy if my kid majors in philosophy, psychology, etc and other fluffy majors is if they plan on going to med or law school. Majors like that don't pay the bills.

Nothing wrong with forcing your kids to do the right thing. Plus at age 16, 17, most kids don't know the best career path. Why not have the parents choose it for them?

Letting your kid wander aimlessly is how they end up majoring in something lame and then getting a crappy job

SEFAGO:
And straight from University of Ibadan.

We have a lot of talent in Nigeria. Just not being harnessed  

Man nigerian girls and book. If not for the sexism in Nigeria, we would be able to harness a lot of talent from nigerian women.

Yep. In some ways, Nigerian girls are better at academics than Nigerian guys. Certainly a lot more focused.

SEFAGO:
See how she dey fake accent  

All NIgerian parents should stop forcing their children to be doctors  

Says who? It is a great profession. Better than most, imo.

fstranger3:
I saw her on Tavis Smiley in 2007 and I wasnt impressed with her. She is getting more due than she deserves. I do give a credit though for carving a niche for herself by focusing solely on the AA demographics, the least studied group in medicine.

But, erm Cancer geneticist my arse, She is just a clinician, definitely not a scientist.

Why do you say that?

In 1986, she completed an internship and residency at the Cook County Hospital in Chicago, and trained in hematology and oncology as a postdoctoral fellow at Chicago, where she has been a member of the faculty since 1991.

Internship, residency, postdoc is enough to make a doctor a scientist. What she went through isn't too much different from MD/PhD.

Also. . . why are you hating on Nigerian women?

Hrm, ok.

The writeup on the MacArthur:
http://www-news.uchicago.edu/releases/05/050920.macarthur.shtml

Man. I'll email a copy of this thread to my sister. I want her to be a badass doctor too.

Eko Ile:
Olufunmilayo Falusi Olopade is the Walter L. Palmer Distinguished Service Professor of Medicine & Human Genetics, Associate Dean for Global Health, and Director of the Center for Clinical Cancer Genetics at the University of Chicago. She is also a practicing clinician and Director of the University's Cancer Risk Clinic. In her clinical work, Dr. Olopade is an authority on cancer risk assessment, prevention, and individualized treatment based on risk factors and quality of life. She also works with educators, doctors, government officials and pharmaceutical companies to improve access to quality education and medical care in low-income communities. Dr. Olopade has received numerous professional honors and awards, including the MacArthur Foundation Fellowship, the ASCO Young Investigator Award, the James S. McDonnell Foundation Scholar Award, and the Doris Duke Distinguished Clinical Scientist Award, among others. She holds an M.B.B.S. from the University of Ibadan in Nigeria, completed her residency in internal medicine at Cook County Hospital in Chicago, and completed a postdoctoral fellowship in hematology and oncology at the University of Chicago.

Damn. She is kind of a big deal. That MacArthur "genius" grant in particular is very, very impressive.

What if he offers to spend $2 billion/year in infrastructure projects in Lagos State for the next 4 years, and ensures that electricity runs 24/7 in the SW?

You'd not support him then? Or you wouldn't trust him to deliver?

Me all  I want is economic development, personally. . . insults are annoying, but not a dealbreaker.

buzugee:
a legitimate business with no product is sitting on a pack of cards. so far the cards have been holding up.then again their cost of operation will probably be minimal so i guess they are here to stay. all they need are servers, administrators and directors. streamlined operation. most of their staff are probably contract workers who cold call businesses for advertising space

Yeah, you don't know very much about Google.

Anyway, advertising is a legitimate business. It is essentially the newspaper business model.

As much as what this guy did was wrong, you can sort of imagine what he was thinking. You move to America, your wife is a successful nurse making tons of money. Maybe it was all of her money which allowed them to open the store. Perhaps your wife lets the money go to her head. Maybe the guy cannot get a job because he doesn't have papers. . . so he is basically staying home and doing nothing.

I sympathize with him a bit  At least, minus the killing.

EDIT: typo

If GEJ wants SW votes, he needs to cut us a deal. What do you have to offer, homie?

Let's sit at the table and see what you want to offer in exchange for our votes.

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Hmm:

https://i52.tinypic.com/opd5c8.png

So from the Fulani, I suppose.

A very interesting read, that doc. I wonder what the previous style of dress was.

PhysicsMHD:
That's just due to the Hausanization of Nigerian clothing.

Hold on a second.

Expound on that.

You mean this: http://s3.hubimg.com/u/2202666_f520.jpg

Is of Hausa origin?

What is your evidence for this?

Most of Google's revenue comes from advertising. That is a legitimate business, I think.

I dunno, I think you can make that criticism about some of the new, more speculative web startups. But not an established player like Google.

So what happened to this 6.5 billion? I only skimmed through the article. . . but where is the money now?

Good questions.

East Africa is a lot less tribal than Nigeria. Ghana, same. Is there a place in Africa where ethnicity is as important as it is in Nigeria? Maybe Rwanda, I guess?

I'm not sure what the answer is, to be honest.

GEJ needs to find a less sickly ally in the SW than AD. Perhaps partner with the ACN to help him make inroads in the SW. Otherwise he very well could lose.

savanaha:
Hahaha I noticed the black Libyan men are "doomed" to marry black Libyan women. Who knew that marrying a black woman is an impending doom.

Very revealing, the language they use

bk.babe97y:
Wow! Amateurs!

Gotta teach these fuxxcking kids everything.

Don't mind him. Very clever in certain areas, but deficient in others  Oh well, we shall excuse him due to his extreme youth 

SEFAGO:
Haha No partyville. You got to go and pregame at 9pm and then hit the club at 11pm.

You would not know when you spend all your time on the internet  

Dude, if you start at 9pm, then that is pretty much 9pm-3 or 4am on party stuff. Not an efficient use of time. Take a few shots at 11pm, be there by 11:30, then you are good to go  

SEFAGO:
@eku_bear
^^^^ I was going to suggest that right now you should be already getting ready to go the nighclub and _{party like a rockstar like you claimed}.

It is going to be a pretty chill weekend for me I think. . . nothing too special. But I can tell you'll keep hassling me about this for the forseeable future 

Ignore the igbo people most dont have game and that is why they spend all time on the internet making hate threads.

Not my mental makeup, unfortunately. I'm not good at ignoring people who piss me off.

I didn't get this Celtics move either

It is going to put a lot of pressure on KG I think.

bk.babe97y:
Neither! Knicks a lil bit tho. Matter fact, me and my gal just got us tickets for an upcoming game that cost us a lil under $1600. But I'm going to see "my" team. . . . pssst--- NOT THE KNICKS!!!

Man, so you are either a Lakers fan I guess? Man if I had Melo + Amare in my city, I'd be watching their games all the time. Now is a good time to hop on that bandwagon. . . they'll be doing big things over the next few years imo.

Ramon2:
Eku Bear:

It is not a matter of t-it for tat. You have been consistent in your pretense as an unbiased contributor. But anybody who knows how to look deeper than the surface knows you are a dangerous tribalist and a pretender. I have no problem anyone bashing my ethnic group, but do not tell others to mind their business when you do not mind yours.

It is what it is. I'll do exactly as I please, and there is absolutely nothing you can do about it.

Even when you were Dapo Bear, it was glaring how you create or nose into Igbo threads, carrying your nose high up like a failed ostrich.

Err, if you say so.

I know you are either Bolaji Aluko or his son. But that is neither here no there.

Heh. You truly seem to hate Professor Aluko  100% guaranteed you are one of those nutcases on that forum. Absolutely charming  You don't know much it cracks me up. You know we were mocking you guys this past weekend? By "we", I mean me and some other politically inclined folk.

The petition ya'll made was a thing of beauty.

AD is irrelevant in the SW, unfortunately. Or maybe they plan on rebuilding through GEJ?

I can already tell that this thread. . .

http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/2/26518/881999-this_will_not_end_well_super.jpg

chiogo:
Tehehehe, now that's funny. Infinite indeed. . . the point is internet aggression doesn't solve anything anyway. You can be pissed all the way from Baltimore to Boston and it won't change a thing. 

Guess I'm just not into pointless arguments because arguments never really end with me offline anyway. lol

I respect your POV. It isn't a bad position to take. But all I can do is respect it, not adopt it.

EzeUche_:
DO I CREATE TRIBALISTIC THREADS?

The answer is NO! I have better things to do.

Lol. Tell the truth and shame the devil! 

And to be clear. . . I've not created tribalist threads. I've only taken articles/video written by people and posted them here for everyone to see. Surely me taking an article written by an Igbo man and posting it here doesn't count as making a tribalist thread

@chiogo: This is much better logic than your post before.

I cannot disagree with your points, they are mostly correct.

Most of the times I ignore those threads; certainly I don't have the energy or time to fully do t.i.t.-for-tat.

But everybody has their limits. Perhaps for you, your limit before you get pissed off is infinite. Mine is not.