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raumdeuter:
What you are seeing in Salah is the impact of coaching. This same Salah played under Mourinho and he looked worse than Martial and Rashford under Mourinho

Martial and Rashford were about the same as Sterling before Mourinho joined.

Tai!!! Stop it

eph12:
Maybe when you're winning, you're world class. When you start to lose, you lose your world class status

In every position, this team is better than what we have today. This is a world class team with Giggs and co still on the bench. JS Park too

I remember some guys once said Martial and Rashford are better than Salah and Mane when we were arguing about Mourinho two/three years ago.

eph12:
I was looking to see if all the players that you mentioned belong to the same team. Maybe all these world class players are in one team, so we need to have 21 world class players in our team too to play football

Madrid had how many world class players when they won the UCL again and again? Even now our two world class strikers are old. They cannot involve much in build up play.

When we won the UCL in 2008, we had almost 11 world class players starting and more world class on the bench

Just look at the way Ronaldo, Cavani and Bruno have been tearing defences apart with intelligent passes and runs.

World class
Ronaldo
Cavani
Bruno

Others
Rashford
Greenwood
Martial
Lingard
Fred
McTominay
Etc

Now, does it not look like we have been overrating our players when contrasted with Ronaldo, Bruno and Cavani? If we sack Ole, can a new coach make these guys to play like Suarez, Benzema, Salah, Modric, Macelo, etc?

Oasis007:


Scholes on Pogba: “ He’s one of them that will get to 35 and be exactly the same. He’ll still be doing the stupid stuff where he’s stud rolling the ball, holding people off showing how strong and skilful he is.”

Gbam

Illimitable:
Why is it that only one player is responsible for all these clutch goals?

Do the others have cement tied to their legs?

Last season, others were scoring late goals too and we were coming back. But this is not to argue against Ronaldo. He is from another planet. Just to mention that other also did last year, so we cannot be the ones to rubbish them-Greenwood, Cavani, Rashford.

I think without Ronaldo, we would be more conservative in forcing attempts or trying to put the ball in the box too often. We would be keeping it longer trying to open up clear cut chances, or get defenders dragged away for Greenwood to shoot. More of counter attacks too from Rashford, Greenwood, Bruno, Lingard/Martial

I think the whole team is adopting and adapting a new way to attack with Ronaldo in the team. With him, we are seeing less goal attempts from McTominay, and other deep lying team members.

Illimitable:
You are not ashamed of this abysmal football played by your manager.

The best decision Ole made this summer was signing Ronaldo(the most clutch player in football history).

Look at the timing of his goals and tell me his last minute contributions aren’t what has kept United in contention…..

Oga, I am talking about your forecast. Hia!!! You sabi shift goalpost

If Illimitable forecast football bet for someone, he would lose terribly. He said the highest Ole will get in a run of four games is 3 points. Ole has got 4 points already from the first 2.

Illimitable, don't ever attempt to play football bet.

McTominay was awful in the DM position. Fred is far better there because he has a better networking ability.

Bruno's football sense is too much. If only we could get a DM with similar football ability and awareness. We don't yet know if Pogba will do well with a world class DM. But for now, he is a waste of £80m or whatever his transfer fee was. He has played with Matic, McTominay, Fred, but unable to prove he can be a partner with any

Illimitable:
My GOAT can’t just stop embarrassing Raumdeuter.

I thank God that Ronaldo played in my era.

Illimitable:
Mkhitaryan never played under LVG.

Paul Parker is always a Man Utd critic and he understands the British media bias so he doesn’t count.

The challenge(in case you forgot) is to find any article that asked Rooney to be dropped under LVG. LVG left United in the summer of 2016. Any article you post after July 2016 does not count.

Try again.

Show me where I said Mkhitaryan played under Van Gaal.

I have shown you British writers and even Mam United legend who said Rooney should be dropped. You cannot shift this goalpost.

Illimitable:
Find an article from an English journalist that asked Rooney to be dropped in the LVG era. I am waiting…….

Harry Kane refused to turn up for preseason and pundits were licking his arsę that there must be a reason for him doing so cos he’s usually a seasoned professional.

Meanwhile, Pogba’s agent(not Pogba himself) hinted that his client might seek a move to another club and the same pundits were cursing Pogba. Pogba did a hair style that has blue in it and they cursed him on live TV that he wants to move to Man City.

Your assumptions are wrong. At one point, it appeared like all the media in England had an agenda against Rooney. Everyone said Rooney was was holding Mkhitaryan back in the number 10, the next thing was that Rooney was the reason Martial is not playing the number 9. But Rooney said considering what was on ground in the training ground, he was still good to start on merit. But the media would not back off, they said Rooney was holding Manchester United back after every draw or loss, the next 6 days was media analysis how Rooney was the obstacle. Then he left to Everton.

I wonder where you were at the time.

Illimitable:
I am sure that never happened. You just cooked it up. No English pundit would say such.

You must have been living in planet Z

Illimitable:
Same journalist
Same newspaper article.

The way British journalists protect British players and rubbish foreign players need to be studied. It’s covert xenophobia.

One of the players here has won 30+ trophies including 5 ballon d’Or awards. The other player has 4 relegations under his belt but guess the one that British journos want dropped?

And when we point this shit out, ingenuous folks like Elampiro would rant that there’s no prejudice in English football. If Ronaldo was Harry Kane, would any British journalist suggest Kane should be dropped?

SMH!!!

Was it not British media that kept saying Rooney should be dropped by Van Gaal? England captain

Illimitable:
We are not necessarily talking at cross purposes here, we are just highlighting different flaws. Ole is definitely a culprit. I never saw this total defence collapse under Mourinho or LVG.

Just look at these images…..

Terrible!!!

Shaw the major culprit.

https://www.facebook.com/DailyMailSport/videos/280586017279364/

Illimitable come and see your man

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWBKdXaQ8e4


"People are gonna say I'm miserable and I'll probably get slagged off by United fans, but I looked at that game thinking about Liverpool on Sunday," said Scholes.

"I thought in that first half United were all over the place.

"They were disjointed, they had the two midfield players playing on their own.

"If you do that playing against Man City or Liverpool, at half time it'll be three- or four-nil, you'll be out of the game, you’re not coming back."

He added: "They've come back from 2-0 down, great fighting spirit, but they conceded still so many chances.

"Now if you're playing against quality players, there's no way you're winning that game, not a chance you're winning that game.

"Everyone will get carried away with this euphoria now — will he [Solskjaer] play that way on Sunday against Liverpool?

I am not making excuses for Luke Shaw, but in all the 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th goals he was caught out of position, I did not see any winger tracking back to help him or cover for him. Hope goals scoring competition has not become a problem in the team? That is hoping that Greewood and Rashford are not looking to compete with Ronaldo for goals at the expense of the the team?

I missed the last match. Against Atlanta I saw like the last 20 mins. I also missed the Leicester match, so it is hard for me to have an opinion on what is wrong.

The other day Brender Rogers said United four front men don't press.

In the Atlanta match, Scholes said that the four front men left the two midfielders exposed.

After Liverpool's match we hear that there is a disconnect between Greenwood and Ronaldo. Greenwood seeking individual glory and not passing to Robaldo.

What we used to have is that the front men fall deep to fight, to tackle and build forward. It looks like Ole told Ronaldo to conserve his energy, and so he works less without the ball. I have noticed he can work harder because when we were 2-2 score with Atalanta, I saw Ronaldo tracking back seriously to mark an opponent in our own third.

Now, is there any chance that Greenwood has decided he will not sacrifice for Ronaldo? If he is not ready to sacrifice for him, then we can start playing Lingard who has a huge ability to track back.

TrebleChamp:
This 4-2-3-1 formation is not working imo, although i want him sack asap, he should at least use a 4-3-3, 4-4-2 or even a 4-5-1 formation for a change. Ok make him lose to Spurs, so the yeye board can sack his incompetent ass....

Counter attack is Ole's best football. His 4-2-3-1 has been criticised as it is mostly set up as 4-2-4 this season. The four front men are said to leave a load of work for the two middle men. Paul Scholes warned about this. He said if United played same way they did against Atlanta, the scoreline would be reading 4-0 or 5-0 when they face Liverpool

Shellsploit:


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adebayo201:
Annoyingly, he does not seems to know this thing. Check previous matches, same old story. If Shaw has not been doing his job well, how can the coaching crew closed their eyes to the his lapses and use Telles or Dalot there.

I saw the 30 mins in the first half before switching off. It's horrible to say the least. Though Liverpool were not spectacular but they rode on our defensive error.

Ole is an apprentice coach who is learning on the job. He has some knowledge but he doesn't have a long experience on the job that should enable him to handle difficult situations faster. The mistakes he makes now are the mistakes he should have made coaching a team like Leeds United for about 3 years, then coach Leicester for 2 years before thinking of Manchester United.

Luke Shaw caused all the 5 goals. This was a problem with his defending mentioned two and a half years ago. He was always drifting inside while defending thereby exposing his flank for attack.

Klopp must have read his game and utilised it. Liverpool did not do anything special other than to utilize the bad positioning of Shaw. Ole on his part did not appear to have read this quickly.

Arsene Wenger thinks Ronaldo has caused imbalance in the team

It looks like Ole was riding on luck, or he has run out of tactics.

Illimitable:
Who knows ball now?

McFred started - check!
Scott McTominay fit - check!
Fred fit - check!
Temperature wasn’t too hot - check!

Elampiro, today has confirmed you don’t know anything concerning football.

popizaino:
Peter Drury: Liverpool dismantle "The Kings of comeback in this special Sunday contest and this is the right time for the devil to ask for forgiveness"

"Do not adjust your set, it's not a graphical error. It's Manchester United 0 - Liverpool 5" ...- Peter Drury

Peter Drury: " there's no place to hide for Ole Gunner Solskjaer, Boy this is nasty!!" �

Peter Drury: "The EPL table is gradually taking shape. The title contenders are being separated from the title pretenders, the oil in OLE is finished and Old Trafford is in darkness. Harry Maguire is more of a pandemic to United than COVID-19."

Peter Drury : "Manchester United has 5 Yellows while Liverpool has 5 goals"

The man, The legend.... Peter Drury adding salt to the injury.

O boy ye

Toni Kroos' agent Volker Struth: "In April 2014, Man United sent a contract. The coach at the time David Moyes personally visited Toni. United's arguments and contract offer were clear love signals. Toni Kroos agreed to join Manchester United.

"I still have a copy of the contract today, only missing Toni's signature. On 22 April 2014, Moyes was sacked as United manager. We had to start the search for a new club over again."
.....

I saw this somewhere. Is this true?