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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 6:32pm On Nov 28, 2021
olabode89:


I was referring to the pressing, pace of the game, etc. 1980s football was more open and slow, bar them Italians.

Sebi Barca looked slow when they played Xavi, Iniesta and Messi. When you play 11 players that can control the ball very well, the game will look slow. But go and beat them. Try to watch Zidane, he looked very slow, but with his technique he controlled the tempo of a match. Same with Pirlo, Scholes. But when some other running-running players are in charge, the field of play will unnecessarily be crowded.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 6:28pm On Nov 28, 2021

Our players lack confidence. There is too much respect for Chelsea. The preparation has been more like how to avoid massacre than how to win, hence the fear. This is why the players play like they lack basic football skills. There is poor coaching. It is easy to tell what formation to play, but did they drill it and did the coach put tactics into it?
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We lose one vs one duels. We are second to picking up loose balls. We are shaking in holding, possessing, passing, and running. Even crowded scamble, we come out inferior. Actually, it is an experienced coach is what can put us back on track.

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 6:22pm On Nov 28, 2021
olabode89:
God will punish whoever gave that permanent manager job to Ole. Dude was just clueless, the difference between both teams is massive. We are playing 1980s football they are playing 2020 football.

Did you watch 1980s football? Football was more organized than today. Players like JJ Okocha, Yekini, Kanu, Maradona, Platini, Zidane, Scholes, Giggs, learnt their football from that era. Try seeing some 1986 world cup and see ball control from Maradona and co

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 5:09pm On Nov 28, 2021
slimghost:

Are you saying this lineup is basically from Sir Ragnick Abi Ragnarok?
Hemebelembe!

I saw the below tweet been spread around
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Ralf Rangnick is working alongside Michael Carrick virtually in order to prepare the #MUFC players for the game against Chelsea. He offered his expertise on Thursday and has advised the staff on how they should set up against the league leaders.
1:49 PM · Nov 27, 2021
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:59pm On Nov 28, 2021
The lineup is tailored for a physical play. I can still see Jones in the bench
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:58pm On Nov 28, 2021
slimghost:
This Carrick seems to be a bigger loser than Ole. Hope this parking of trailer works for the Imp.

I read that the new coach has been calling him and helping to prepare for today
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:43am On Nov 27, 2021
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 6:16pm On Nov 26, 2021
It's Portugal or Italy for world cup
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 5:50pm On Nov 26, 2021
MRTA7:


Do you think Rodgers would accept an interim role?

You make sense.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:48pm On Nov 26, 2021
Lana1:
I like all this talk of Rangnick's style of play even if he ends up not winning a trophy. It's about time United started playing like a top team instead of the rubbish DNA we've been playing for the last couple of years.

That brand of football should also set the team up nicely for the next manager who hopefully would be ten Hag.

We for just kukuma get Brenda Rogers
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:47pm On Nov 26, 2021
Man Utd reach deal with Lokomotiv to appoint Ralf Rangnick as interim boss but personal terms still being thrashed out
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:05pm On Nov 26, 2021
lekkie073:
you and I never argued on pogba. You had reservations about pogba and I told you that the pogba I do watch in Juventus is a good player.
Scholes never won the epl player of the year, so that makes him a bad player abi?

McTominay will not bench Scholes.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:48am On Nov 26, 2021
And he talked about zone, and Moyes was the first time I heard 'playing in zones. So that called for a comparison check between the two. Rangnick and Moyes

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:46am On Nov 26, 2021
izzou:
People who judged coaches by their trophies and victories few days back, are accepting Ragnick because YouTube videos, and who he taught...

I guess Elon Musk's and Jeff Bezoz' teachers in high school are supposed to be more successful than them.

Let me not spoil the celebrations abeg grin

Anyi gbacha oso, anyi ga aguta mile grin

That was the simple thing I raised, and I was not even serious about it. But some people carried the matter on their head. Someone referred me to a clip where he was talking about his style. All I heard was running, pressing, double running and counter pressing. It made me wonder if it was Everton style under Moyes.

My other taught was how some of our skillful players might not be useful anymore. Pogba, Martial, Sancho,Ronaldo. Bruno is also a question mark. It was this kind of mentality Moyes used to render many players he inherited from SAF unfit for his high tempo football. Only such players like Valencia, Welbeck were consistent

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:50am On Nov 26, 2021
MRTA7:


You seem to forget that he is only here till the end of the season as our coach. He's an interim manager till the end of the season then a permanent coach will be appointed. We can take our time to appoint a permanent manager in that period. Ralf will then stay on as a Consultant for 2 years helping the club with footballing decisions and direction for the future, NOT as MANAGER. I dont think his career requires this intense examination for that. Apart from the fact that he has lots of experience doing this job.

You make sense
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:09am On Nov 26, 2021
lekkie073:
I agree he is a special breed. The same way imbeciles are special breed

Mere looking at your big head, everyone knows you are the slowpoke.

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:08am On Nov 26, 2021
lekkie073:
just hear yourself.... He is not qualified to coach manutd. Why do you just sit in one Bush in Edo and believe you know more than those who are professionals in their field? It is so easy to use mouth cook vegetable...

Was Moyes qualified to coach manutd when he was appointed? The ideal thing is to give any new manager a chance to prove himself, not just sitting down to form a doomsday prophet.

Where I am is better than where you are. Let that sink into you. You and I had a similar argument when we bought Pogba. You felt Pogna was Iniesta+Xavi 3.0. But to confirm my initial worry about him, Pogba has struggled ever since. When is he going to win the EPL player of the year?

In case you may know, I also express worry when Moyes was hired. But it was this same thread that people gave their analysis that Moyes was doing well at Everton based on low budget, and in that circumstance it was an okay decision. But soon they turned against Moyes.

I have given my opinion, so go and sleep

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 1:50am On Nov 26, 2021
melodyogonna:

Funny thing to request. Why would he want something like that?

It looks like we have not hired him to help the team play quality football, but he is hired to be an experienced coach in charge, a pioneer of a new structure, a man to restore hard work and discipline, a partaker of decision making. This was just like the Luiz Van Gaal project. I hope he succeeds. But what we need is a manager who will make our boys play real soccer. Who will teach techniques to the young players.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:28pm On Nov 25, 2021
Any coach who has so changed clubs frequently means he was being sacked. This is the case with our new coach. SAF, Wenger, have all been in a few clubs. Moyes sef would still be Everton coach if he did not get the United job.

But this our new coach has been changing clubs like big Sam
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:23pm On Nov 25, 2021
Illimitable:


Elampiro is a special breed.

As far as he’s concerned, Moyes is better than Pep.

Na wao!!! Even you?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:22pm On Nov 25, 2021
CrystalTiger:


Someone who idolises Moyes is always quick to tell the next person "you no know ball".. Smh

Who idolises Moyes? I think some of you need to go to secondary school to learn comprehension. I am even surprised that Lekkie073 is bringing up Moyes when we are assessing the CV of our new coach

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:25pm On Nov 25, 2021
lekkie073:

Rangnick had this


Ulm 1846 Regionaliga Sud

Hannover 96 2.Bundesliga

Schalke04. GERMAN CUP


What is Rangnick's coach of the month/year awards.

Moyes won the lower league too.

You even miss the point. I am not comparing the two. Just saying that based on criteria, this man is not qualified to coach Man United. He is only an upgrade on Carrick.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:37pm On Nov 25, 2021
Illimitable:


Moyes is a failure if this is what he’s got in a managerial career that has spanned 23 years. Moyes win record stands at 42% and that figure was boosted by his 9 month stint at United(the only time he won more than half of the games he managed).

But you support a new manager with less individual honours in a longer career time. This new manager only had Bayern Munich and may be Dortmund as the big teams he played. Moyes was had to face Manchester United (SAF), Arsenal (Wenger), Liverpool (Bernitez), Chelsea (Mourinho) Man City (Mancini, etc), Tottenham.

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:10pm On Nov 25, 2021
lekkie073:
bit your hero, Moyes could not win 50% of his matches. cool

Moyes has this grin


Preston North End



LMA Manager of the Year: 2002–03, 2004–05, 2008–09[110]
Premier League Manager of the Month: November 2002, September 2004, January 2006, February 2008, February 2009, January 2010, March 2010, October 2010, September 2012, March 2013

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:57pm On Nov 25, 2021
Illimitable:


He’s the only one among the candidates willing to take the job as an interim manager.

The others want instant deal without being tested. Ragnick would be fine. I have no doubt about it. Just few tweaks and few replacements in the defence and this squad is good enough to challenge for the big trophies.

Ok, let's see how it goes. Tuchel also had somewhat a poor CV. Except that Tuchel won Bundesliga coach of the season (2015/2016), which this one doesn't have. Also Tuchel had coached bigger clubs
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:40pm On Nov 25, 2021
Win, draw Loss

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:36pm On Nov 25, 2021
This is what I saw that I kind of doubt. He has been winning only half of his matches

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:34pm On Nov 25, 2021
CrystalTiger:


Are you for us or against us? undecided

I thought past trophies won, and CV matters while you guys talk about coach. Which big club has he coached and what are his number of trophies?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:29pm On Nov 25, 2021
In his own talk about his style, there seem to be too much emphasis on running. While this is good to awaken our lazy players, it seems to be different from what a coach like Guardiola or Zidane would say while talking about style
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:26pm On Nov 25, 2021
Oasis007:


Don't mind him, perhaps he[b] doesn't have data[/b] to watch it or wanna start unnecessary Agreement.

I have unlimited data. And what do you mean by argument? I just shared my opinion. His style seems to fit players like Lingard. May be we can recall Daniel James
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:23pm On Nov 25, 2021
Searchingvictor:



Is that Moyes taktics at Everton embarassed

Yes. Everton played a very high tempo football. Moyes played in zones. Everyone had to work hard to form a unit. When he came to United, due to the players we had, there were gaps in our play as many players were aged or were not used to running at high speed for long minutes.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:03pm On Nov 25, 2021
Oasis007:



Watch the Clip.


https://twitter.com/utdreport/status/1463915499155304450?t=4tkyLQgAV5NGAnngjdrOJw&s=19

Fingers crossed. It can of look like we ended up with Moyes 0.7 in the name of experience. So why did we not get Conte on time

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