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Rooney was rounding the goalkeeper and certainly would have scored into an empty net or at worst make an assist from that. Contrary to what people would want, the rules cannot change because Rooney is the one involved. It's clear, when a player if fouled in the box even when backing the goal, it's a penalty. This was a last man and the goalkeeper, Rooney was left with an empty net afterwards. Collymore is an ex-Liverpool player and would want Man United to be out. When Preston coach said it was a penalty, that settled it all. Even BBC analysed it again and concluded it was a well deserved penalty. |
Was it a penalty? YES it was. A Penalty will be awarded if a challenge uses 'reckless or excessive force'. The Amount of contact is not decisive.
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parrotibaba:Yes, but he was not in the game until he scored. He didn't play the number 10 with sense. |
Since Collymore is now an authority lets quote him some more: Stan Collymore @StanCollymore · 2h 2 hours ago Beginning to think #MUFC philosophy (attack quickly/width) and #AJAX #BARCA philosophy (possession, slow build up, narrow ) is LVG problem. User Actions Follow Stan CollymoreVerified account @StanCollymore #MUFC 1. Don’t need Falcao 2. Need a MF boss alongside impressive Herrera 3. Need 2 world level CD’s 4. A quality RB Stan Collymore @StanCollymore · 2h 2 hours ago Herrera energy was quality tonight, but needs a destroyer alongside him. Carrick could do what Blind does when he’s 50. |
Gaal: We changed the shape, that was the solution I think. We scored fantastic goals, little bit lucky also. The second one for Fellaini – we have trained for that – I was pleased for Valencia.' Van Gaal also praised Marouane Fellaini for his versatiliy, admitting that he doesn't always have a position for the Belgian. 'He scores all sorts of goals. I played him for the first time in the position he wants. I don’t always have a position for him, that’s my problem.' |
For the opener, he said in a news conference: "Wayne Rooney wasn't directly in [Stuckmann's] line [of vision], he was just to the side. It is a grey area. For the second Tom Clarke was pushed by Fellaini and the third, Wayne Rooney has not been touched by the goalkeeper; yes, he has had to jump out of the way but he has not been touched. "I am not saying it wasn't a penalty. I am saying there was no contact. You can interpret that how you want. It wasn't a dive. He has gone to get out of the way and take evasive action. I am not complaining but all three goals were slightly contentious." Grayson was delighted with his side's display, adding: "The players can wake up in the morning very proud of what they have done. I certainly am." http://www.espnfc.com/manchester-united/story/2302711/preston-manager-wayne-rooney-penalty-wasnt-a-dive Somebody is crying right now: Kabiyesi Wayne Rooney |
Preston Manager: "Wayne Rooney did not dive. Ukwu!!! ![]() Nihilist pls come and read. BighinNya must see this. |
There is something people don't know about football. There is no way a midfielder would have a great game every time. Blind was struggling against Burnley. Today he wasn't that good either. Song for West Ham in FA Cup would make one fall asleep deeply. Rooney had good games against Liverpool and the likes. He had a few lows and the sky wanted to fall on this thread. I don go sleep o. who dey vex make e go hit head for wall. Rooney got past a last man and won a deserved penalty. Rooney answers his critics. Cru cry baby, Ntor! ![]() |
If Rooney wasnt brought down, he would have still scored the empty net. |
25A. Valencia Struggled to offer much going forward in the first half but a great run and cross for Fellaini’s goal was testament to his willingness to keep going. D. Blind17D. Blind A calming influence. Lacks the kind of mobility United midfielders of old had, but always on hand to receive the ball and finds space. M. Fellaini31M. Fellaini Lacks technical quality but is a useful player when used correctly. Scored a goal and had United’s other best chances, too. Causes problems with his physical style. W. Rooney10W. Rooney Willing runner all night and looked United’s most likely scorer in the first 45 minutes. Earned and scored penalty for United’s third. R. Falcao9R. Falcao Anonymous and replaced by Young early in the second half. Really struggling to make an impact at United, and this was the latest display that suggests they won’t be taking up the option of signing him permanently. ............... And they said Falcao did better. Rooney don suffer for this thread. ![]() |
Smalling made some calamitous mistakes today. God saved us. ![]() |
Question: Was the goalkeeper beaten? Answer Yes. Question: If Rooney stood his ground what should have happened? Answer: The goalkeeper would have swept him off his feet and probably break his leg. Verdict: We have seen free kicks awarded for such evasive play, so it's a penalty. |
Imagine how much hatred this ayagayagayayo has for Wayne Rooney. He is quoting kids impersonating players. Quoting unverified handles. ![]() |
Clear penalty. Rooney had got the ball past the goalkeeper already. If he stood his ground, the gaolkeeper would have broken his ankle. GOAL! Preston 1-3 MANCHESTER UNITED 88min: Game over now. Wayne Rooney takes evasive action to avoid a very late sliding challenge from an on-rushing Stuckmann inside the box. The striker dusts himself down before smashing home the resulting penalty kick. Dailymail.live commetary. |
Whoscord rated Falcao the lowest. Even DDG who had an error leading to a goal was rated higher than Falcao. Falcao is only in the team based on amnesty of Van Gaal. Gaal has even said he wouldn't use goals as a yardstick to sign Falcao at the end of the season. Herrera rated highest, then followed by Rooney. Falcao was far far far below almost dropping to the negative rating. Valencia had 3 key passes while also coming second in pass accuracy behind Fellaini. Valencia put 4 crosses into the box and 2 connected. Young put one in and it did not connect. There is a difference between a cross and a pass. |
England manager Roy Hodgson, speaking on BBC One: "I don't think it's a dive from Wayne Rooney for the penalty I think he's taking evasive action." Phil Neville "It's tough to criticise David De Gea who has won so many games for United this season The changes made the difference for United. It created space for them. For the penalty, Wayne Rooney had to get out the way. For me it's a penalty and a reckless challenge." |
Nihilist:I havent seen that yet. But fans voted him BBC MOTM. |
Man United fans arguing against clear penalty. Ukwu!!! So Rooney should have allowed the goalkeeper to break his leg? Rooney had beaten the goalkeeper completely, and the keeper slid forcefully on his part. Clear Penalty. Rooney is always the one to get a long through pass to Di Maria. Again, and again and again. |
Rooney is clearly our best striker. He did what Falcao, RVP and Fellaini havent been able to do all season- beating the last man to come face to face with the goalkeeper. Then he beat the goalkeeper where others have been clueless. Valencia had an assists from defensive position. Rooney scored on his return to front position. He has never failed there this season. He also took out Davies in all the set plays. Kabiyesi sir Wayne Rooney. |
In my opinion, if we were to seek balance in midfield without playing Rooney there, I think Valencia would do on the right side of the diamond. Valencia would offer defensive work, cover well for the right back defender as well as carry the ball forward between the lines. Valencia shortcoming in contrast to Rooney, is his inability to contest for aerial balls in the middle of the park and make clearances from crosses into our box. Judging from the Cambridge match, Rooney is likely to get far more crosses into the opposition box. Di Maria should be made to play on the left side of the diamond with Young as his deputy. Di Maria was the reason our diamond was so dangerous early in the season. If we have Valencia at the opposite side, we will most likely have adequate protection in the midfield, and Rooney would usually drop deep from the hole if he played there. So there should be less for Di Maria to battle in midfield. Januzaj has had enough playing time this season. Now we are into the run in where even relegation haunted teams can spring surprises. DDG McNair/Jones/Rafael-- Jones/Smalling----Rojo--Shaw --------------------Blind/Carrick --Val/Fellaini------------------Di Maria/Young/Januzaj --------------------Rooney/Mata ---------RVP------------------------Rooney/Falcao If Rooney is to play an advanced role in the midfield, he should be on the side Di Maria appears on the above formation. With Valencia or Fellaini providing coverage in midfield, Rooney will have license to go into the opposition box as he did previously when he paired Fellaini. Although one can not forget that Fellaini too can be a burden with his sluggish game. |
Danhumprey:That name rings bells. When I first came to this thread, it was being promoted that we sell Rooney and buy Benteke because he scored 19 goals for a middle table team. Sine that time Benteke has scored only 12 goals and 3 Assists in 3350 minutes playing as a striker. Ukwu!!! |
Facts remains that since the arrival of the new players, Rooney has either at least scored a goal or assisted a goal whenever he was used as a number 9 or a number 10. To the best of my knowledge. QPR, Leicester, West Ham, Arsenal, Southampton. Rooney actually should get the front role before any other. But he is a victim of his versatility and ability to roam and battle. * The last time Rooney played the number 10 for us was against Arsenal, he scored and he could have got 2 Assist if the linesman had not wrongly flagged him offside when he broke free from a counter attack, and if Di Maria finished the one vs one. After this Rooney was sent to midfield after all our CMs got injured and Van Persie played alone upfront. Then he got injured himself. * The last time Rooney played as a striker he provided an assists even though he just returned from injury. Before then he had played as a striker against QPR and West Ham with two goals and one assist in both matches. Now, there have been a few times either Falcao or RVP was not in team selection, Gaal persisted wit Rooney in midfield while Di Maria and even Fellaini were used as strikers. May be this is where Rooney will play until summer when new players will likely arrive. if I were Rooney I would ask to play in striking position when either RVP or Falcao is not playing there. Or is he ready to convert to midfield permanently now? May be he might request for a transfer if he is not satisfied in the position. Watching Gaal and Rooney. |
So Rooney has scored 224 goals for Man United being played out of position season after season? Sir Wayne Rooney deserves more than he earns. ![]() I am very satisfied with the writers detailed analysis of the situation on why Rooney is put ahead of Fellaini, Herrera, Januzaj, Mata and Di Maria in midfield. I actually felt Fellaini would come in for Blind as a DM, but when I saw Herrera I knew Rooney would be the one to step in for Blind. Someone sees things the way Gaal and I see them. Rooney is only helping us out in the deep roles. Whether anyone is dissatisfied is a different thing all together. I like Di Maria in midfield but when he played there he hardly lasted beyond the 60th minute mark because of the big space left there having to play two poachers. Kabiyesi Wayne Rooney. ![]() |
Despite the struggles, those individual players have been afforded opportunities to fail and try again. Thus, Rooney remains in the midfield despite finishing as the club's top scorer with 17 goals only a season ago. To put that number in perspective, Rooney and Sergio Aguero tied for fourth in the Premier League, ahead of players like Olivier Giroud and Wilfried Bony. If United needs a bruising powerful midfielder to play in front of the defense, why not turn to Marouane Fellaini instead? Blind assumes the base of the diamond for his defensive positioning and ability to spray accurate passes that relieve pressure. The role requires a reliable passer more than it requires a bruising ball winner. The ability to spread the ball wide and not give the ball away in front of the defense are the position's most vital function. However, an ability to tackle and take up a disciplined defensive position is also important to the role. If Blind stays out for extended time, Rooney will likely continue at the base of the diamond because Fellaini is, frankly, not reliable enough of a passer. Fellaini is a route-one forward that uses his elbows in opposing boxes. He is not the player that patrols the midfield and sets off an attack via outlet passes. He may come on to occasionally help kill a game, but the Belgian is rarely used as a central midfielder in Van Gaal's vision of Manchester United. Ander Herrera was a midfielder bought over the summer with a direct eye to playing in the middle of the park, but the Spaniard is simply not as strong and steady as Rooney. Given the choice, Rooney fills every midfield role better than Herrera. So, when Blind went off injured, Herrera came in but Rooney moved from the right of midfield to the base of the diamond. On the surface, the player destined to finish his career as England's and Manchester United's top scorer playing in midfield makes absolutely no sense, especially with United lacking sharpness in attack. Surely, Rooney could help create chemistry, score chances or at least help create them. However, when digging into the options, Manchester United needs more help in midfield than it does in attack – on paper, anyway. Sadly, Rooney's only fault is that he assumes every role the boss asks him to play effortlessly, and his ability to excel all over the park does not limit him to the area where he excels best – in front of goal. As mad as it may be to admit, Rooney in the midfield makes sense for Manchester United. http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/soccer-fc-yahoo/why-on-earth-is-wayne-rooney-playing-midfielder-for-manchester-united-004650745.html |
Why on earth is Wayne Rooney playing midfielder for Manchester United? These days, Wayne Rooney, who is Manchester United's third greatest goal scorer of all time, finds himself sitting deep and playing in the midfield. At the moment, Rooney has 224 goals in his Manchester United career. Should he score another 13 wearing red, Rooney will move into second place in the storied club's scoring hierarchy. If Rooney hangs around for another 25 goals, he will tie Sir Bobby Charlton as the top goal scorer in Manchester United history. Even more impressive, Rooney will likely have accomplished the feat in about 200 fewer appearances than the knighted legend. Soon enough, he'll be called "Sir Wayne Rooney." So, why on earth is Manchester United manager Louis van Gaal playing a tried and tested forward as a utility midfielder? When Daley Blind went off injured against Burnley on Wednesday, Rooney dropped off the right midfielder position and played at the base of the diamond in a 4-4-2 setup. Rooney assumed the deepest midfielder spot, which seems mad unless one truly analyzes why Van Gaal made the switch. Rooney may well be the first name on the Manchester United team sheet, but he's likely one of the last ones to fill a position. Van Gaal has two top strikers in Radamel Falcao and Robin van Persie, and neither of them can play elsewhere. Attack-minded midfielders such as Juan Mata, Adnan Januzaj and Angel Di Maria provide the boss with enough attacking talent, but none of them offer the steady security of Rooney in a deep midfielder position. Based on the talent available in attack, Rooney should, in theory, not be needed to create goals for the Red Devils. In reality, Di Maria has been struggling, Januzaj is going through a sophomore slump, Mata rarely strings together even two solid games and both Falcao and Van Persie are altogether failing to produce. |
parrotibaba:You are the one who made a mistake. When they said Rooney has not had a goal, Assists and SHTG this year, every reasonable human knew it was about the league alone. All subsequent arguments followed that pattern. It's simple logic. |
Rooney they said cannot score as a midfielder. Whereas no midfielder has scored as many as ROONEY has from the midfield. If not for wastefulness of RVP and Di Maria, Rooney would have at least 10 assists already. Rooney scored: 1 against Hull 2 against Newcastle. 1 goal, 1 Assists against Liverpool. I dare anyone to bring up any midfielder with this statistics. I have not even considered the clear cut chances he created for Di Maria and RVP in these matches. Rooney is our best midfielder. Van Gaal should sweet talk him to play his heart for him and also warn RVP and Di Maria not to waste Rooney's chances again. What did Herrera bring to the field when he came on against Southampton? The midfield became weaker and Wayanma ate Carrick and Herrera for food. |
raumdeuter:Rooney is the reason Man United are in 3rd. We climbed to third only after his return from suspension. Rooney has not lost a match in midfield since Man United run of wins. Rooney is greater than Muller, Lewandpwsky and fraudulent Bayern Munich. |
raumdeuter:How is winning CL an individual award? Ronaldo and Messi have not won world cup. They have not won golden boot at the world cup. Rooney was Europe cup youngest scorer ever. He has won world best striker and became the 5th best footballer in the world. Rooney has won CL too. When will Muller be valued at 300k/week? feather weight Muller who earns peanuts. |
parrotibaba:That's FA Cup. Everything being discussed here has to do with the league. |
Facts remains that if Rooney goes to attack, Falcao will not get a chance there again because Rooney will score goals there. He scored as a striker and as a number 10, he stats in both remain the most impressive this season, particularly the number 10. |
coogar:Old things shall pass away. He plays only the striking position and these stats are nothing compared to what Kane is doing right now.COMPRATRIOT WILL NEVER EARN 300K . |
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