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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:16pm On Feb 12, 2015
coogar:
you have been found out......
79.5% alone is 80%, what is 79.9%? how come some players have their percentage rounded up to a whole number and some have decimals? are you sure you went to school? you cannot even tidy up numbers to present statistics? grin

anyways, is the player below the biggest liability in the world of football?
* I did not round up for any player.

* They failed to mention Rooney's successful passes. cheesy

* Rooney is playing in midfield for us. He is doing what the coach asked him to do by maintaining positional discipline to shield the back. How many goals and assists do we have from Carrick, Young and Janujaz this season? When last has Mata scored an EPL goal?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:59pm On Feb 12, 2015
SailorXY, the boss has explained and spoken. He corroborated my stance that our midfield has shielded the defenders better since Rooney went there.


Louis van Gaal praised the performance of Wayne Rooney, who had to drop into a deep midfield role against Burnley on Wednesday.
Used primarily as a forward throughout his career so far, Rooney's withdrawn position under Van Gaal has led to criticism by some but the manager does not agree.
"I have to look for the better balance and I think until now because of Rooney we have a better balance in midfield, I was very pleased how he replaced Daley Blind in the number six position.
"He showed composure and of course he was also today the Rooney that I want to see but he has showed that he can play in every position.
"Maybe he can better play in a striker's position but then I have a problem in midfield."
[Source: goal.com]
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:56pm On Feb 12, 2015
coogar:
so iniesta & fabregas are now forwards? mumu. we said messi is the best passing forward in europe & this mumu is posting yeye stats.

you are a liar....
you made a passing statement that messi is not known as a passing expert?

you are a liar....
you never compared messi to team mates. you said messi cannot pass at all & you put him in ronaldo's category.

you are an idïot....
how come suarez & neymar aren't on 90% passing stats then? grin




this is the same liar that said argentina played 4-3-3 yesterday & messi was a striker. grin



defensive players always have the highest passing stats and rightly so. they pass the ball where opponents can't be bothered to pressure them.




stop lying - sneijder has 80% pass accuracy. where did you see 79%. sneijder doesn't play for a better team. england had more players playing for top teams than holland. rooney's wages alone in a year would pay the wages of all the players that lined up for holland - minus robben & RVP.




who cares if it's 15 mins - i said per game. that's what whoscored is all about. they rate per game. all the stats you pulled out of there in the last 4 years were per game too. don't cover up for rooney's idiöcy.



at the end of it all.....
sneijder's team finished 3rd, rooney's team got dumped out after 2 games. sneijder has achieved more than rooney in either club or country. rooney is just an overrated piece of shytë that hasn't shot on target in 2015. grin

*. I listed Affellay for you. I put Pedro. Fabregas also played forward in some matches. Messi even scored 80% in same position Barkley posted 86%. Ukwu!!
* Messi does not have a pass accuracy for teams. Period! Same with Ronaldo. Their passing accuracy in proportion to their team passing accuracy. Ronaldo is 81%, -5% from Madrid's average of 86%. Messi is 83%, -5% from Madrid's average of 88%.
*Sneidjer did not have 79.9% at the world cup. I did not round up for any player to avoid confusion.
* You per game is misleading. Any stats we bring on per game, we narrow it down to per minutes when it warrants. Don't try to Tortoise this. grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:42pm On Feb 12, 2015
Codedguy01, Di Maria did very well, except for the error leading to Bunley's goal. If we get that as average from Di Maria everyday, then future team should be built around him.

Just sad the way things are going with Falcao. It's painful it is happening to him while playing for us. If it were else where, whats my biz?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:35pm On Feb 12, 2015
EPL Throwback Thursday. Wayne Rooney goal vs City of 2011.

EPL awarded this the best goal in EPL history. I like the angle from which it was captured here and very clear HD video. Scholes to Nani, Nani crosses and one of the best goals in the history of football is scored. Everyone is stunned!

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10152769768272746
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m):
coogar:
i don't use a small sample size to do statistics. only amateurs like you do such to sway arguments. in the past 5 seasons......

messi
13/14 - 85%
12/13 - 85%
11/12 - 84%
10/11 - 86%
09/10 - 86%

falcao
13/14 - 85%
12/13 - 80%
11/12 - 77%

rooney
13/14 - 80%
12/13 - 83%
11/12 - 81%
10/11 - 77%
09/10 - 74%

RVP
13/14 - 77%
12/13 - 81%
11/12 - 79%
10/11 - 80%
09/10 - 80%

even a pübic louse knows messi has the best passing stats & highly consistent over the seasons. he's particularly having an average season by his high standards this year - but history has proven elampiro wrong again.......messi is a known excellent passer of the ball.

elampiro is dead!!!
You may as well bright out stat from 1920. We are talking about Messi's current stats and also in comparison with his team's average.

2011/2012 Affellay 94%, Pedro 88%,Iniester 89%, Messi 84%.

2012/13 Pedro 90%, Iniester 90%, Messi 85%,

2013/14, Inietser and Fabregas also beat Messi.

You can see that Messi is always poor and among his lowest in his team. Coolie-died is dead and funeral is calling. grin



coogar:
says who?
every log you league at, defenders have the highest passing stats. the best passer this season in our team is michael keane(94% pass accuracy)



no wonder he left smalling out of this list.
fraudulent statistician. how come smalling passes the ball better than van persie. oh never mind, smalling is a midfielder. grin
You are diverting this argument. We are talking about the Barca team and Argentina team Messi plays. In Barca team, the midfielders have most pass accuracy.

In terms of leaving Smalling, I also left Jones. Do you reason at all. I was pointing to you that Messi was very poor compared to his team mates while RVP and Falcao were good compared to their team mates.

coogar:
calculate their average passing stats over their entire career and your statistics fall flat on its face.



messi is a forward, barkley is a midfielder.
Average passing stats over entire career? I said even Oshoala will make above 85% pass accuracy striking for possession obsessed Barcelona. Ukwu!!! So this comparison is moronic. What's the players pass accuracy vis a vis his team (team mates as well?)

Messi vs Netherlands= 80%.
Barkley vs Costa Rica = 86%
Both from number 10 position. Ukwu!!!


coogar:
name the forward players that are very strong in this criterion. grin don't hide under a blanket statement.


elampiro has been found again as a football charlatan!

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Are you confused or you are deliberately diverting argument? I gave you evidence that it was possible for a forward player to beat a defender's pass accuracy and even team's average and you are here yanning megedefede. RVP is very high in his team pass accuracy list while Messi is languishing at the bottom. This tells me that if Messi should play for Sthletico Madrid, his pass accuracy will be 71% (team % less 5%).


coogar:
sneijder had 80%, rooney had 82%
england is a poor passing team. so for rooney to be below england's average itself is a disgrace to wayne rooney.
Does this even make sense to you? Sneidjer 79% and Rooney 82%. Sneidjer plays for a better team with higher pass accuracy. Sneidjer should be doing far higher than Rooney.

coogar:
rooney made 24.7 passes per game, sneijder made 48.8 passes per game - that is double the number of passes rooney made.

no wonder england crashed out. rooney is useless.
You are a road side analysts. Rooney's 3rd game was just for 15 minutes.

Rooney played 15 mins in England's last game. Yet you took that as a full game in your analysis. Bush man pappywater grin.

Rooney defeated Sneidjer in:
1. Goals/ mis
2. Assists/mis
3. Key passes/mins
4. Pass accuracy.

Keypass: Again Messi won it with 23 followed by Robben with 17.

Sneidjer 10 in 586mins= 58.6 to make a key pass.
Rooney 5 194 mins= 38.8 mins to make a key pass.













Coolie-guy Tortoise, good night. See you tomorrow.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:17pm On Feb 12, 2015
coogar:
compare messi to any other forward in the world & he towers over them include waning rooney.
How is Messi above Rooney or our strikers in pass accuracy?

Messi 83%
Falcao 84%
Rooney 84%
RVP 85%

Coogar, your sins have caught up with you. Ntor! grin

log out. See you. cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:09pm On Feb 12, 2015
coogar:
this is nonsense.....
you cannot rate the pass accuracy of a degen defender and a striker. defenders generally have a high passing accuracy. they pass it in low pressure zones. if you expect messi & pique to have the same passing stat then you are a retärd!
Defenders dont have the highest, the midfielders and Iniester have the highest. The gap between the teams's average and Messi is just too much.

Van Pesie is higher than Man United's average pass accuracy. Falcao is at par. Van Persie's pass accuracy is higher than McNair, Evans, Rafael and Luke Shaw.


coogar:
this is another irrelevant stats
messi is a forward. he has less than 2 seconds to decide what he wants to do with the ball & he's heavily marked. pique has an average of 60 seconds to pass it to the next defenfer or his goalie - without any pressure.
Your argument lacks logic. How come RVP is passing better than most of our defenders.

I just discovered Van Persie and Falcao even have better pass accuracy than Messi this season. grin I told you that Messi is weak at pass accuarcy.

A player like Ross Bakely is 89% as an attacking midfielder, same place Messi has never crossed average of 86%.

You have been found out
.

coogar:
this is exactly my point.
messi is always better than any forward when passing the ball - so for you to say messi isn't known for passing accuracy is a syntax error.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/2118651_image_jpeg9f360c5ab7736510df54c882e9dbf188

there you have it. messi's passing is very strong from your favourite football site. so where did you learn that messi isn't known to be a good passer?

elampawa has been skewered again!
Coolie-guy Tortoise,

Many players are very strong in these criteria. We are discussing figures not keys.

coogar:
and that is because he was the only one trying to get a goal. they all leave the creativity bit for him. messi looks out more for the difficult passes that becomes key passes or assiats. compare messi to the other forwards of other countries and your dodgy stats would make you look silly.




compare sneijder to rooney. grin
I have destroyed all your arguments.

Rooney had just minus two from England's average while Sneidjer had minus 3 from Netherland's. Rooney had 82% while Sneidjer had 79%.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m):
parrotibaba:
please pull out his stats from dia match against Mexico ,Costa Rica n Spain
In whoscored rating, Sneidjer was 152nd best player in the world cup.

Sneidjer's average pass accuracy at the world cup cup was 79%.
1 goal, 1 Assist.
Average aerial duels won = 0
Key pass 1.7

All the stats you see above, even Rooney that was said to have had a poor world cup with England team beats Sneidjer in all the stats.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:07pm On Feb 12, 2015
coogar:
but we aren't comparing messi to barca players. we are comparing messi to other players at the world cup. you said messi can be excused of his poor passing at the world cup cos he's always average. that assertion is not true.
Let me help you to understand why I said Messi is always a poor passer in his team.

* Barcelona average pass accuracy this season is 88%, Messi is 83%. Messi is -5 from his Barca's team pass accuracy. Messi

* Argentina average pass accuracy at the world cup was 84%. Messi's overall average pass accuracy at the world cup was 80%. -4 from his team.

* Out of 22 players Barca has used this season, Messi is 18th on the pass accuracy list. He is only better than Claudio, Hadaddi, Neyman and the very last Suarez.
* In the particular match we are talking about, Messi was 9th in the Argentina team in terms of pass accuracy.





To make Sneijer's matter worse, he was -3 from Netherland's pass accuracy in this particular match with Argentina and he finished 11th in the pass accuracy chart. Messi finished -1 off his team's average. Sneidjer was poo. grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:36am On Feb 12, 2015
Goodnight everyone. It seems I have an unfinished biz with someone, Mr Parrot I guess. That's a carry over.

Ekwe Sample looking for my trouble. Talk to the hand.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:30am On Feb 12, 2015
coogar:
if messi comes to united, nothing would change. a good passer is a good passer. mata hasn't changed at united and messi's touch is more assured than mata.



how did he fail in his primary duty?
he wasn't even supposed to play - jones got injured. a player who wasn't expecting to play that early suddenly got thrusted next to evans the fool. of course, the performance would be shaky.

however, he got a brace in the game. when pillock jones collided with rooney on sunday, what did he do to erase his mistake? i hope he's injured for 6 months. the partnership of smalling & rojo is the future. shaw as LB, rafael/paddy as RB. jones needs to follow fletcher to west brom.
* Messi pass accuracy dropped from Barca to Argentina. At united he would be 76%. Messi is one of the poor passers in his team. It's something I have observed.

* Smalling, excuse excuse excuse. Coogar go and sleep. Smalling was poor in defence.

Go and sleep jor, u too like trouble. U be papiwater? Just pray Smaling survives 5 matches before we hear hamstring.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:11am On Feb 12, 2015
How is Cavani? No no.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:09am On Feb 12, 2015
coogar:
compare messi to any other forward in the world & he towers over them include waning rooney.

you have been found out again.....



.....but now plays as a central midfielder like a water carrier. rooney has replaced fletcher. grin

elampawa, smalling bailed us out today with a brace. something jones has never achieved. do you still think jones is better?

https://giant.gfycat.com/UnimportantScientificArctichare.gif

NTOR!!!!
* Forget about Messi and other forwards. If RVP played for Barca he would come out with 88% accuracy. If Messi played for Man United, he would make only 79% accuracy.

* Smalling failed in his primary duty. His defensive performance today was the worst we have seen from a centre back since M.Dons beat us 4-0. He was the reason we lost composure at the back and we invited undue pressure.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:52pm On Feb 11, 2015
coogar:
there's no truth in this....
argentina played 4-2-3-1 throughout the knock out phase. messi tucked in behind higuain. lavezzi, perez/di maria provided the width.

i provided messi in barca stats....
he's as good as cesc in pass accuracy. i doubt there's a forward with a better passing accuracy as messi on the planet.....perhaps welbeck!
Messi and Ronaldo are always among the poorest passers in their teams. As I said, 85% pass accuracy for Barca is not something even Ayila of Falconets will be proud about.


coogar:
rooney got killed!
More like Rooney just got an alert of £300k in his account for the week. And some one is crying. Utor!

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:11pm On Feb 11, 2015
Dadehmola:
The irony is that his agent says "falcao will be at a top club next season" cheesy grin

With his present form, even clubs like Qpr and Leicester sef go reason twice before signing him ( even for free and without having to pay his wages).
He might do well in another club or another league.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:10pm On Feb 11, 2015
coogar:
messi is a midfielder for argentina.....

then your claim that messi isn't known for pass accuracy is retardëd. messi passes the ball as good as any midfielder.

09/10 - 86%
10/11 - 86%
11/12 - 84%
12/13 - 85%
13/14 - 85%

messi had only 80% at the world cup - his lowest ever in his career and you are saying messi isn't known for pass accuracy. if he's not passing accurately, which forward player in the world has such a high passing stat?
Argentina played basically 4-3-3 in the world cup. Messi was one of the front three.

This your pass accuracy, is it Messi in Argentina or Messi in Barca. Because if you play Oshoala in Barca she will emerge with high pass accuracy as well. Ukwu!!!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:26pm On Feb 11, 2015
Thank God.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:21pm On Feb 11, 2015
Rooney should be careful.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:38pm On Feb 11, 2015
An odd man bailing us out- Smalling.

The performance is the worst in a long long time.

Junazaj and McNair's inclusion at expense of Valencia, Mata, Fellaini is a set back in this match.

Two forced early substitutions is not always a good omen.

I like the way Van Persie was trying to show physicality at the tail end of the half.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:00pm On Feb 11, 2015
Smalling has exposed us two or three times already and made two straight passes to opponents..
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:45pm On Feb 11, 2015
coogar:
leo messi had 80% pass accuracy in this match. you have been telling us how messi was your best player in the tournament but now sneijder is poor on a day he kept more of the ball than your best player.

your half-truths is the reason you get punked here.
Messi and Ronaldo are not known for pass accuracy. They aren't midfielders either.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:51am On Feb 11, 2015
SailorXY:
you also forgot he was playing with a rib injury? is this your lame attempt to prove Rooney is better than him as CM?
since Herrera returned, point the match he's not been among the top three players whether as a sub or a starter.
How did play with rib injury when Fellaini was on the bench?

Did Mata also have a rib injury that day?

Even if Rooney is not in midfield, Fellaini is ahead of Herrera in selection order. Now Januzaj is now ahead of him.

It's Rooney, Mata and Junazaj before Herrera. So how is Rooney affecting Herrera as you have always claimed.

Herrera has had many anonymous days. We also forget so soon. Same way Januzaj was given a run of games the last time, everyone called he should be dropped. After a while on the bench, Januzaj is suddenly the unused hero to you.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:57am On Feb 11, 2015
^^^
No wonder Gaal said he knows his players and people are always fond of calling for those who aren't playing. grin

On Mata: He became the king of long balls. 7 long balls in just 71 mins he played. 0 key pass in 90 mins. 0 cross, 0 shot on target, 0 dribble, 0 interception, 0 clearance, 1 tackle, 0 aerial duel won.
...........................

Januzaj
Wasted good crossing chance inside area after weighing up his options and pulled out of a 50-50 in the first half. Did not really beat his man all night, often coming inside to find a team-mate.


di María
Quiet start but put a fine ball in to Van Persie as United looked to reply to early set-back. Smart shot on the turn but Myhill telegraphed it, as with subsequent efforts. Got little joy down the left all in all. Subbed for Young with 15 left.

Herrera
Sloppy very early on, not letting his team clear their lines and was wayward with two attempted through-balls as the half wore on. Subbed at half-time on a poor night.


Mata
Toiled to find space but often went missing in it. Poor free kick over the bar from edge of the area and offered little else. Subbed for Falcao with18 minutes to go.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:45am On Feb 11, 2015
When we played West Brom with Herrera and Mata in our midfield, flanked by Di Maria and Januzaj. This happened to Herera.

Substituted out at half time for Fellaini(in).
* Pass accuracy was 84% in a match Blind had 93%, Mata 89%
* Key pass 0
* Shot on target 0
* Dispossessed 2
* Unsuccessful touch 1.
* Tackles 0
* Interception 0
* Clearance 0
* Blocked shot 0
* Crossing 0
* Aerial duels won 0

Goal.com worst player of the match choice= Herrera. Although fans picked RVP.


Compared to Fellaini in the second 45 mins with 2 shots on target, 1 goal, 2 key passes, 4 aerial duels won, 3 tackles, 1 interceptions, 3 clearances.

Rating= Fellaini MOTM with 8.33. Herrera 6.02, Mata 6.10
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:27pm On Feb 08, 2015
SailorXY:
LvG has to find a way to improve our away form, its too poor & has been our undoing!

elampiro, Rooney played midfield today yet de Gea made a couple of saves - why's that? grin
They didnt create a quarter of clear cut chances as our games against Liverpool, Arsenal, Southampton, etc.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:25pm On Feb 08, 2015
larride:
if Elampiro come here dey argue like tortoise about Rooney again na e-slap him go get from me. Nonsense.
Falcao and RVP wasted clear chances on a weekend Kane scored 2 against Arsenal.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:42pm On Feb 08, 2015
SailorXY, see the line up above. When our boy returned, he made the bench and got some minutes. For some weeks now he doesn't even make the bench.

His defensive decline began in 2012/13, but he got many defensive assistance from Val who was playing in front of him. Just same way he helped Vals in attacking play. Unfortunately, it might never be like that again. SAF knew the pros and cons and combined these guys very well based on his knowledge of the league his individual players.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:33pm On Feb 08, 2015
coogar:
his salary shouldn't be cut down......they should just allow him to run down his contract. LVG playing him in the midfield is enough evidence that he's no longer relevant.

have you forgotten playing in the hole behind van persie was the reason he asked to be transferred under SAF? imagine how shïtty he must be feeling now having to play in the central midfield?

rooney has scored 181 league goals in 13 seasons in his career. that's less than 14 league goals per season. if you take off awoof penalties, he averages only about 12 league goals per season. there's nothing special about rooney.

ruud scored 95 league goals in 5 seasons here. that's 19 per season - he's our best striker in this century at least. rooney is just a jack of all trade, master of none. the Ebola virus of man utd.
Nistelrooy played only one position, mostly as the lone striker. Rooney has never played as a lone striker. When Rooney played as co striker he scored 26 goals.

Last season Rooney had over one goal per match when the matches the played a lone striker were isolated. Meaning if he played above 30 matches a season as a lone striker he would score 40+ EPL goals.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:27pm On Feb 08, 2015
SailorXY:
wellness & fitness are not the same. if you get injured & your replacement has done well in your absence, its only normal you bid your time. its nothing new, especially with LvG.
you claim to know football, but Rafael is 4th choice RB to you. smh
Yet, Phil Jones goes straight into the team even after being away for a longer time.

* I like Rafael, but I have seen him punished too often by good dribblers in the EPL. His attacking prowess are intact but EPL now boast of merciless dribblers like Sterling, Hazard, Silva who feast on Rafael.

The fact that Val persisted with Valencia or Jones in the right back in 4-4-2 formation shows Rafael has a mountain to climb.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:12am On Feb 08, 2015
How can another man be envious of another man's salary. You be witch? grin What do you even know about financial management?

If your son were Rooney and has made so much money for the club over the years, you would say "cut my son's salary down"?.

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