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coogar:* I did not round up for any player. * They failed to mention Rooney's successful passes. ![]() * Rooney is playing in midfield for us. He is doing what the coach asked him to do by maintaining positional discipline to shield the back. How many goals and assists do we have from Carrick, Young and Janujaz this season? When last has Mata scored an EPL goal? |
SailorXY, the boss has explained and spoken. He corroborated my stance that our midfield has shielded the defenders better since Rooney went there. Louis van Gaal praised the performance of Wayne Rooney, who had to drop into a deep midfield role against Burnley on Wednesday. Used primarily as a forward throughout his career so far, Rooney's withdrawn position under Van Gaal has led to criticism by some but the manager does not agree. "I have to look for the better balance and I think until now because of Rooney we have a better balance in midfield, I was very pleased how he replaced Daley Blind in the number six position. "He showed composure and of course he was also today the Rooney that I want to see but he has showed that he can play in every position. "Maybe he can better play in a striker's position but then I have a problem in midfield." [Source: goal.com] |
coogar: *. I listed Affellay for you. I put Pedro. Fabregas also played forward in some matches. Messi even scored 80% in same position Barkley posted 86%. Ukwu!! * Messi does not have a pass accuracy for teams. Period! Same with Ronaldo. Their passing accuracy in proportion to their team passing accuracy. Ronaldo is 81%, -5% from Madrid's average of 86%. Messi is 83%, -5% from Madrid's average of 88%. *Sneidjer did not have 79.9% at the world cup. I did not round up for any player to avoid confusion. * You per game is misleading. Any stats we bring on per game, we narrow it down to per minutes when it warrants. Don't try to Tortoise this. ![]() |
Codedguy01, Di Maria did very well, except for the error leading to Bunley's goal. If we get that as average from Di Maria everyday, then future team should be built around him. Just sad the way things are going with Falcao. It's painful it is happening to him while playing for us. If it were else where, whats my biz? |
EPL Throwback Thursday. Wayne Rooney goal vs City of 2011. EPL awarded this the best goal in EPL history. I like the angle from which it was captured here and very clear HD video. Scholes to Nani, Nani crosses and one of the best goals in the history of football is scored. Everyone is stunned! https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10152769768272746 |
coogar:You may as well bright out stat from 1920. We are talking about Messi's current stats and also in comparison with his team's average. 2011/2012 Affellay 94%, Pedro 88%,Iniester 89%, Messi 84%. 2012/13 Pedro 90%, Iniester 90%, Messi 85%, 2013/14, Inietser and Fabregas also beat Messi. You can see that Messi is always poor and among his lowest in his team. Coolie-died is dead and funeral is calling. ![]() coogar:You are diverting this argument. We are talking about the Barca team and Argentina team Messi plays. In Barca team, the midfielders have most pass accuracy. In terms of leaving Smalling, I also left Jones. Do you reason at all. I was pointing to you that Messi was very poor compared to his team mates while RVP and Falcao were good compared to their team mates. coogar:Average passing stats over entire career? I said even Oshoala will make above 85% pass accuracy striking for possession obsessed Barcelona. Ukwu!!! So this comparison is moronic. What's the players pass accuracy vis a vis his team (team mates as well?) Messi vs Netherlands= 80%. Barkley vs Costa Rica = 86% Both from number 10 position. Ukwu!!! coogar:Are you confused or you are deliberately diverting argument? I gave you evidence that it was possible for a forward player to beat a defender's pass accuracy and even team's average and you are here yanning megedefede. RVP is very high in his team pass accuracy list while Messi is languishing at the bottom. This tells me that if Messi should play for Sthletico Madrid, his pass accuracy will be 71% (team % less 5%). coogar:Does this even make sense to you? Sneidjer 79% and Rooney 82%. Sneidjer plays for a better team with higher pass accuracy. Sneidjer should be doing far higher than Rooney. coogar:You are a road side analysts. Rooney's 3rd game was just for 15 minutes. Rooney played 15 mins in England's last game. Yet you took that as a full game in your analysis. Bush man pappywater . Rooney defeated Sneidjer in: 1. Goals/ mis 2. Assists/mis 3. Key passes/mins 4. Pass accuracy. Keypass: Again Messi won it with 23 followed by Robben with 17. Sneidjer 10 in 586mins= 58.6 to make a key pass. Rooney 5 194 mins= 38.8 mins to make a key pass. Coolie-guy Tortoise, good night. See you tomorrow. |
coogar:How is Messi above Rooney or our strikers in pass accuracy? Messi 83% Falcao 84% Rooney 84% RVP 85% Coogar, your sins have caught up with you. Ntor! log out. See you. ![]() |
coogar:Defenders dont have the highest, the midfielders and Iniester have the highest. The gap between the teams's average and Messi is just too much. Van Pesie is higher than Man United's average pass accuracy. Falcao is at par. Van Persie's pass accuracy is higher than McNair, Evans, Rafael and Luke Shaw. coogar:Your argument lacks logic. How come RVP is passing better than most of our defenders. I just discovered Van Persie and Falcao even have better pass accuracy than Messi this season. I told you that Messi is weak at pass accuarcy. A player like Ross Bakely is 89% as an attacking midfielder, same place Messi has never crossed average of 86%. You have been found out . coogar:Coolie-guy Tortoise, Many players are very strong in these criteria. We are discussing figures not keys. coogar:I have destroyed all your arguments. Rooney had just minus two from England's average while Sneidjer had minus 3 from Netherland's. Rooney had 82% while Sneidjer had 79%. |
parrotibaba:In whoscored rating, Sneidjer was 152nd best player in the world cup. Sneidjer's average pass accuracy at the world cup cup was 79%. 1 goal, 1 Assist. Average aerial duels won = 0 Key pass 1.7 All the stats you see above, even Rooney that was said to have had a poor world cup with England team beats Sneidjer in all the stats. |
coogar:Let me help you to understand why I said Messi is always a poor passer in his team. * Barcelona average pass accuracy this season is 88%, Messi is 83%. Messi is -5 from his Barca's team pass accuracy. Messi * Argentina average pass accuracy at the world cup was 84%. Messi's overall average pass accuracy at the world cup was 80%. -4 from his team. * Out of 22 players Barca has used this season, Messi is 18th on the pass accuracy list. He is only better than Claudio, Hadaddi, Neyman and the very last Suarez. * In the particular match we are talking about, Messi was 9th in the Argentina team in terms of pass accuracy. To make Sneijer's matter worse, he was -3 from Netherland's pass accuracy in this particular match with Argentina and he finished 11th in the pass accuracy chart. Messi finished -1 off his team's average. Sneidjer was poo. ![]() |
Goodnight everyone. It seems I have an unfinished biz with someone, Mr Parrot I guess. That's a carry over. Ekwe Sample looking for my trouble. Talk to the hand. |
coogar:* Messi pass accuracy dropped from Barca to Argentina. At united he would be 76%. Messi is one of the poor passers in his team. It's something I have observed. * Smalling, excuse excuse excuse. Coogar go and sleep. Smalling was poor in defence. Go and sleep jor, u too like trouble. U be papiwater? Just pray Smaling survives 5 matches before we hear hamstring. |
How is Cavani? No no. |
coogar:* Forget about Messi and other forwards. If RVP played for Barca he would come out with 88% accuracy. If Messi played for Man United, he would make only 79% accuracy. * Smalling failed in his primary duty. His defensive performance today was the worst we have seen from a centre back since M.Dons beat us 4-0. He was the reason we lost composure at the back and we invited undue pressure. |
coogar:Messi and Ronaldo are always among the poorest passers in their teams. As I said, 85% pass accuracy for Barca is not something even Ayila of Falconets will be proud about. coogar:More like Rooney just got an alert of £300k in his account for the week. And some one is crying. Utor!
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Dadehmola:He might do well in another club or another league. |
coogar:Argentina played basically 4-3-3 in the world cup. Messi was one of the front three. This your pass accuracy, is it Messi in Argentina or Messi in Barca. Because if you play Oshoala in Barca she will emerge with high pass accuracy as well. Ukwu!!! |
Thank God. |
Rooney should be careful. |
An odd man bailing us out- Smalling. The performance is the worst in a long long time. Junazaj and McNair's inclusion at expense of Valencia, Mata, Fellaini is a set back in this match. Two forced early substitutions is not always a good omen. I like the way Van Persie was trying to show physicality at the tail end of the half. |
Smalling has exposed us two or three times already and made two straight passes to opponents.. |
coogar:Messi and Ronaldo are not known for pass accuracy. They aren't midfielders either. |
SailorXY:How did play with rib injury when Fellaini was on the bench? Did Mata also have a rib injury that day? Even if Rooney is not in midfield, Fellaini is ahead of Herrera in selection order. Now Januzaj is now ahead of him. It's Rooney, Mata and Junazaj before Herrera. So how is Rooney affecting Herrera as you have always claimed. Herrera has had many anonymous days. We also forget so soon. Same way Januzaj was given a run of games the last time, everyone called he should be dropped. After a while on the bench, Januzaj is suddenly the unused hero to you. |
^^^ No wonder Gaal said he knows his players and people are always fond of calling for those who aren't playing. ![]() On Mata: He became the king of long balls. 7 long balls in just 71 mins he played. 0 key pass in 90 mins. 0 cross, 0 shot on target, 0 dribble, 0 interception, 0 clearance, 1 tackle, 0 aerial duel won. ........................... Januzaj Wasted good crossing chance inside area after weighing up his options and pulled out of a 50-50 in the first half. Did not really beat his man all night, often coming inside to find a team-mate. di María Quiet start but put a fine ball in to Van Persie as United looked to reply to early set-back. Smart shot on the turn but Myhill telegraphed it, as with subsequent efforts. Got little joy down the left all in all. Subbed for Young with 15 left. Herrera Sloppy very early on, not letting his team clear their lines and was wayward with two attempted through-balls as the half wore on. Subbed at half-time on a poor night. Mata Toiled to find space but often went missing in it. Poor free kick over the bar from edge of the area and offered little else. Subbed for Falcao with18 minutes to go. |
When we played West Brom with Herrera and Mata in our midfield, flanked by Di Maria and Januzaj. This happened to Herera. Substituted out at half time for Fellaini(in). * Pass accuracy was 84% in a match Blind had 93%, Mata 89% * Key pass 0 * Shot on target 0 * Dispossessed 2 * Unsuccessful touch 1. * Tackles 0 * Interception 0 * Clearance 0 * Blocked shot 0 * Crossing 0 * Aerial duels won 0 Goal.com worst player of the match choice= Herrera. Although fans picked RVP. Compared to Fellaini in the second 45 mins with 2 shots on target, 1 goal, 2 key passes, 4 aerial duels won, 3 tackles, 1 interceptions, 3 clearances. Rating= Fellaini MOTM with 8.33. Herrera 6.02, Mata 6.10 |
SailorXY:They didnt create a quarter of clear cut chances as our games against Liverpool, Arsenal, Southampton, etc. |
larride:Falcao and RVP wasted clear chances on a weekend Kane scored 2 against Arsenal. |
SailorXY, see the line up above. When our boy returned, he made the bench and got some minutes. For some weeks now he doesn't even make the bench. His defensive decline began in 2012/13, but he got many defensive assistance from Val who was playing in front of him. Just same way he helped Vals in attacking play. Unfortunately, it might never be like that again. SAF knew the pros and cons and combined these guys very well based on his knowledge of the league his individual players. |
coogar:Nistelrooy played only one position, mostly as the lone striker. Rooney has never played as a lone striker. When Rooney played as co striker he scored 26 goals. Last season Rooney had over one goal per match when the matches the played a lone striker were isolated. Meaning if he played above 30 matches a season as a lone striker he would score 40+ EPL goals. |
SailorXY:Yet, Phil Jones goes straight into the team even after being away for a longer time. * I like Rafael, but I have seen him punished too often by good dribblers in the EPL. His attacking prowess are intact but EPL now boast of merciless dribblers like Sterling, Hazard, Silva who feast on Rafael. The fact that Val persisted with Valencia or Jones in the right back in 4-4-2 formation shows Rafael has a mountain to climb. |
How can another man be envious of another man's salary. You be witch? What do you even know about financial management? If your son were Rooney and has made so much money for the club over the years, you would say "cut my son's salary down"?. |
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