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SailorXY:
so the one on one save against Chelshit was due to Rooney's absence

so how did Courtois win the MOTM?

You don't understand. There were many serious situations match after match. The midfield was where opposition torn us opened and made the defence looked mediocre. There was a need to win duels in the of the park. Need to slow the game a little with few passing around, need to keep the ball, need to keep an aye on such gorrilas as Wanyamas, need to track back fast enough to prevent Harry Kanes from pacing in from the midfield, etc etc.

Rooney is the best to do these things for now.

SailorXY:
then why the change?
van Gaal has got a million decisions wrong already but he's still experimenting so no problems, you don't need an oracle to see that.

There was no change. There is order in terms of taking set play in every team. Bale said this recently when he said he takes from the right while Ronaldo was chosen to take from the left after performance in training. Sometimes I wonder if u guys didnt even train with a team or play matches even if na area vs area.

It's there performance in training that wanrrant Jones to take. If Rooney, RVP, Mata and Young arent starting, may be Jones is the best among the rest. Even if RVP is there, Jones might still take then RVP stationed in the box to score.




Lets be less sentimental and reason.

RuuDie:
I think we have seen UTD with Rooney... don't you think, perhaps the time has finally come for us to move forward and see UTD without Rooney!?

I don't think so.

Leyqute:
DiMaria invigorated Rooney. Rooney was always always content to slow the game down and pass the ball around. He even crowds other players on the pitch

Then why was RVP not invigorated?

Rooney played speedily.

SailorXY:
how many saves did de Gea make against Chelshit?

How did he frustrate Hazard? Chelsea would have been lost already...

Leyqute:
Rooney plays slowly because he's lazy. Against Arsenal DiMaria showed more counter attacking intent and prowess. Whenever we're in a position to launch a counter Rooney is always comfortable to hold the ball for a min, allow the opponent to get into position, and then slowly pass the ball backward.

You are not serious. In a match Rooney won the MOTM. He scored from a counter and provided an exclusive counter for Di Maria? Rooney ran 50 yards plus to score an exquisite goal. Rooney knows when to raise the temple of a game and when to slow it.

Mexico great Hugo Sanchez: ‘There is a lot of anxiety about Chicharito’
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If he were here and got benched like this, you will see uproar. Why is Zaha not given a chance? Why is Kagawa not playing( even when not scored a single goal in 1100 minutes of football for Man United last season)? Fabio is our best back up defender, why is he not playing?

It's always about those who are not playing. Man United is very generous to be given these guys so much minutes.

SailorXY:
it won't even come as a surprise, after all we've endured Jones taking corner-kicks

The dangerous corner kicks he took at Cambridge proved again that Gaal was right.

SailorXY:
Rooney got a red card early second half against West Ham United, how many games were we 'hammered' in his absence?

David De Gea became the team's saviour. Many feared we were riding our luck and it was just a matter of time before we got disgraced like City did to us at Old Trafford.

Leyqute:
microscopic view kwa? dis same ball? diaris God oo

What SAF and Mourinho can see, Roberto Martinez cannot see.

RuuDie:
Elampiro, Elampiro2

Just respond to this!

Rooney is keeping the DNA going, hence we fall flat into pre-SAF era. We need a player who can help us to play slowly, ruggedly, speedily and counterly (as we did against Arsenal) as occasion demands. The other guys with frozen brain can only play one way- attack, attack, attack and get hammered by Leicester or M.Dons.

Thats how they went all out to play too directly against Cambridge and almost conceded a late defeat.

FIFApro XI vs Golden boot winners,

Class of 300k vs league of kobokobo

coogar:
the same rooney we have been told only gets to play cos he's a captain and not because he's necessarily better than the players he often benches?

When were you told this?

Rooney has always been a regular for club and country in his career. Captains can be dethrone. Fletcher was an assistant captain, but he got dethroned and redethroned.

SailorXY:
so Rooney now gets the credit for lower shots @ de Gea?
Fellaini can do hatchet man & box-box with pawa
Valencia can do hatchet man & box-box with better speed & positional play
Herrera can do hatchet man & box-box with lesser pawa but passing intelligence & agility, as well as an eye for goal. check his tackling stat & you'll be amazed.
Rooney can't play Carrick's/Blind's role of course.

I really don't see what Rooney's got on our natural midfielders to guarantee him a spot there. my observation

Rooney has stabilized our play in the middle of the park. This is why I laugh when some guys ask what did Rooney do? We were vulnerable with Blind and Carrick supported with Fellaini or Herrera. Herrera and Blind were in the middle of the park when we lost every contest against Leicester in that region.

The problem is that many people can not watch football in same way some gurus like us with microscopic view can see a match comprehensively.

coogar:
why would he displace falcao?
he said his strikers are falcao, wilson, RVP and fellaini......and he thinks rooney is fine in the midfield.

Just watch out. We are going to have it in this order: COMPATRIOT RVP, Wilson, Fellaini and Falcao. Or perhaps he wantys to reduce Fellaini to a squad role.

In a nutshell, the target is either Fellaini or Falcao. Fellaini might be pushed up 'cos we dont score from corner kicks and crosses. But he will be a sub.

Specialists score in champions league knockout stage against big teams.

The world best players score in champions league final and world club cup final. Who are RVP and Berbatov to say a word where Rooney is?

These are the real specialists and footballers.

Van Persie the hyena, jack of none and master of none will never get into this list. What a pity.












Ukwu!!!

coogar:
van gaal said he prefers fellaini as a striker to rooney in his presser!

that says it all - rooney is finished.

Gaal is very cunning. He wants to displace Falcao from the starting line up. Although you didn't provide link.

Dadehmola:
More goofs..

Continue oo, elampawa!!

Proof you meant.

afrodoc2:
Elampiro is making a lot of sense. I agree with him Rooney is the bestest player in the whole wide world.......

Correct.

afrodoc2:
Seriously he is the most brainful player ever......only Haruna Ilerika and Baba Otu Mohammed can compare

Ayila of Falconets is far more sensible than Van Persie.

RuuDie:
The debate is about Rooney, how does RVP's productivity or lack of it affect Rooney!!?

I am asking you a question. I am not debating Rooney with you. Any thing can be discussed here. People are already tired of talking about Rooney.

Can we start Van Persie?

raumdeuter:
Robben doesnt earn 300k/week, Iniesta doesnt earn 300k/week, Hazard doesnt earn 300k/week, Suarez doesnt earn 300k a week, Muller doesnt earn 300k a week

Robben doesnt have a decade long consistency of Rooney. Robben can play just one position or at most one and half.

Inester has been surrounded with big stars, same set of stars. He needs to play with different set of team mates long enough for his influence to be isolated and his worth determined. He is only intelligent among so many great players. If he were really intelligent he would earn 300k/week.

Hazard will definitely earn 300k, but he has to pay his dues long enough to be able to earn that. Hazard is great! Better than all the players in Bayern Mucheche, except Robben.

Suarez has not stayed long in a team to prove the consistency which warrants the honour to earn 300k/week.

Muller is even overpaid. He shouldnt earn near Chicharito. These type of players dont earn much no matter how many goals they score.

raumdeuter:
If RVP is pulling Man Utd down, How is stopping Rooney from scoring for National team

Check the meaning of failure and its Rooney's picture you would see

Rooney is almost the all time goal scorer for England. This is despite playing in the wing in major part of his national career. If he were used as a striker like Shearer, Owen, Heskey, Defoe, etc, he would have broken the Three Lions record since 5 years ago. Rooney is victim of his intelligence and versatility.

dopeJemi:
Be honest for once, rooney has been quiet in the last couple of games, its almost as if he's not in the team...

Ask yourself. Which role has Rooney been playing in the last couple of matches. He has been doing his job in the middle of the park.

dopeJemi:
... In our last match against cambridge, rooney was like a fringe player, he wasn't even involved

Someone who had the highest number of passes and touches? He tormented the defence with long balls for Fellaini and RVP. That got the Cambridge defence confused.

The ayagayagayagayos have gone into hiding despite keeping my computer open the whole day. The day I wont have their time now, they will be busy for nothing.

Let me take a break. I dey come back for night.

Danhumprey:
Okay,let me take you on the bolded.

Skills - What skills does Rooney have?

Input - Is it Rooney's running around the pitch like a headless chicken that you call input?

Rooney is the most skilfull footballer. That's why he can be around a top club for decades while seeing off fellow strikers like Nistelrooy, Saha, Smith, Tevez, Berbatov, and very soon RVP. If not for compatriotism, RVP would have been off since January.

Rooney's input is the highest. From midfeild he has 8 goals and 4 Assists while doing his CM job appropriately.

dopeJemi:
Explain to me what rooney took part in, in the return leg

Please

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May be too we could say Ashely Young and Blind have never done anything for us this season.

Rooney played and we won. Chikena. Mere seeing Rooney on the pitch boosts and inspires the team. That's why everyone look for him with the ball.

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I have never seen any player who has been better than Rooney in the number 10 position in Man United. We were told Kagawa was better, but he is gone again already. Rooney has been one of the best number 10 in the whole world. There he has scored many goals. Take it or leave it. He won Europe highest assists playing the number 10 under Moyes.

He became the world 5th best player as a striker. I guess he is the only EPL player who has achieved that.

Danhumprey:
@bolded, Really? Mourinho's 'park the bus' style of play allows players to express themselves freely? Elampiro,are you for real?

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Moourinho plays on the counter just as SAF did between 2006 and 2009

Danhumprey:
On the Rooney's issue,the truth is,we don't really know where Rooney can play best. Even SAF admit he didn't know Rooney's best position. And more importantly,the formation employed by the manager matters alot.

* That's not true. Rooney is versatile. So he gets sacrificed for other players who can only play one wing. Another reason is that his energy would go to waste if restricted to a position. He was needed under SAF to drop and add something to the midfield.

* I give you an example: Oshoala can play everywhere on the field in female football. She's better than her team strikers, but because of her energy and versatility, she is pushed deeper to help in build up and defensive play while a lesser striker takes the number 9 or even the number 10 too taken by another player. Another example is Scholes was was sacrificed for Genrald and Lampard in the Eglish team. Scholes was moved to the wing to accommodate the other two.

* SAF admitted that Rooney best position is the number 9 and number 10. Rooney scored 26 goals in 2009/2010 and the next season he was dropped into midfield. Why?

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Ferguson:
“I have to take a bit of responsibility for it,” Fergie said. “He’s sacrificed himself and never complained about it, which says a lot for the lad. He will score goals. He scored a couple against Aston Villa last season after not scoring for seven games and I thought that would have catapulted him into a good run, but we kept using him in different positions. We need to define his role better. I think his best position is through the middle, either a front role or tucking in just behind. He can play either role very well. He is aggressive, has two feet, good pace, he has the courage to get in the box. It’s great credit to the lad that he never complains. Some players know what their best position is and they don’t want to challenge themselves in any other one, but Wayne would play centre half [if he was asked to].”

Adnan Januzaj has admitted the system Louis van Gaal has instilled at Manchester United makes it “more difficult for him to play.”
Sitting on the sidelines this season has frustrated Januzaj, but it is the roles he has been asked to undertake that he has found the most disappointing.
“Yes, the system can make it more difficult for me to play there but I have to keep working,
“That is what I am doing in training every day, as I want to get more games this season.
“I’m not really a wing-back. It’s harder for me because there is more defending involved and I’m not really a defender.”
[Source: Skysports]

SailorXY:
[url]m.bleacherreport.com/articles/2353216-manchester-united-deciding-wayne-rooneys-best-position-for-remainder-of-season[/url]

coogar & elampiro, read this article & comments

Central midfield will kill his career quicker. If we are to accommodate RVP, Falcao in striking positions, We can use Rooney and Mata in the number 10 and wings. Rooney will be better playing from the left side than the right he played last night. Playing from the left will enable him to cut into the edge of the box to shoot his his right foot. It will also gradually bring back the best in him.

If I were Rooney, I would hold a private conversation with the manager, to be played in striking position or number 10 or at worst in the wing. If it doesn't work, I would privately request to be allowed to go to a club I would be used as a striker to keep my career running.

Since 2008, SAF identified that he needed to be specialized in a position. What has been stopping them from doing that. Those day we could understand that playing him in the striking position was like asking him to use only 40% of his energy and athleticism in a match. You wouldn't extract all that he could give. But now part of the athleticism is gone, and time to limit him to a position or two. A forward position.

However, I still think Rooney can be athletic and energetic if he wanted to. He still sometimes exhibit this attribute. But he himself has said he wants to play more intelligently. This might be where the problem lies. Just imagine if Robben stopped playing energetically. May be if Rooney had joined Mourinho in summer of 2013, the special one would have rejuvenated him to his good old days and challenge him to push himself to a ballon d'or candidate. Remember Mourinho at Inter, he said in 2009 that Ibrahimovic was better than Ronaldo. He came to Chelsea and has been challenging Hazard to be world best with strong words. Mourinho's style of play allows players to fully express themselves on the pitch as opposed to Gaal's style which fixes specialists in positions.

My opinion.