European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:17pm On Feb 13, 2015 |
tess1: Yeah, that was because LVG is still experimenting with the team. He still doesn't know his first eleven. So, by now saying saying Rooney gave us 'better balance' means he'll continue experimenting him there. Continue using Rooney there will not give us good transition. LVG wants to finish in top 4. How he does it is his utmost worry now, not transition. Transition can wait. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:38pm On Feb 13, 2015 |
coogar: so it's about the money, not his performance? so why do you get ulcers anytime we say rooney is a fraud or a liability? 
elampawa.....rooney has been found out.
in another news.....RVP is the only player in the premier league that has scored at least 10 league goals in the last 5 premier league seasons.
choiiiiiiii, rooney is a liability.  Compatriot RVPee and Fowlcow should go emulate Kane. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:36pm On Feb 13, 2015 |
I also felt Scholes absence against Wigan was a costly mistake. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:35pm On Feb 13, 2015 |
Premier League form table after the last 15 games.
and Rooney has been at the thick of this.
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:28pm On Feb 13, 2015 |
Former Manchester United coach Rene Meulensteen says that Sir Alex Ferguson cost them the title in the year of THAT Sergio Aguero goal. Meulensteen says that the Red Devils themselves should have won the title - but lost it a month earlier in a fateful midweek loss to Wigan Athletic. And Meulensteen says that Ferguson's decision to drop Paul Scholes from the starting line-up is what cost them the victory. Speaking to fanzine United We Stand, Meulensteen said: "That's where we lost the league. The manager thought that Paul Scholes, our key player and the one who could change the rhythm of the game, wasn't right to play two games in a week and for that reason he wasn't in the squad and we missed him." Meulensteen also opened up about the win at Sunderland on the final day of the season, where at full-time United believed that they had secured the title. He revealed that Ferguson turned around and congratulated his coaching staff, seconds before hearing about news that Aguero had scored. Meulensteen, now 50, said: "The manager tapped me on the shoulder and said 'well done... we're champions for now'." [Source: United We Stand] |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:26pm On Feb 13, 2015 |
tess1: LVG doesn't know what he's saying. What better balance is Rooney giving us as defensive midfielder or wherever in the midfield? I have said it before and i'll keep on saying it that Rooney anywhere in the midfield is a liability to us. He should be played in the striking position and if he's not good enough there, then he should be dropped to the bench. Play every player in their best position instead of playing them out of position.
I don't know how he could say Rooney playing in Daley Blind's position gave us a better balance with the rubbish we played on that day. We were also playing rubbish when Blind was around. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:24pm On Feb 13, 2015 |
coogar: stop feigning you are bereft of common sense. the statistics say.....
rooney hasn't scored in 450 league minutes rooney hasn't assisted in 450 league minutes rooney has no shots on target in 450 mins
you retorted back that mata also went 508 mins without scoring, assisting or hitting shots on target. i asked you to prove it and you are here lying to the public & shuffling facts.
when mata didn't score, he assisted or took shots on target. when he didn't assist, he scored and took shots on target. mata always contributes to a game.
falcao was onside. fat rooney is too brainless to see a pass that was as glaring as fück.
it baffles me..... even paddy, the rookie player in our defence has taken shots on target this season. how does rooney sleep at night knowing none of his shots has been on target in 2015? blind played deeper than rooney against west ham & scored. rooney's midfield position is no excuse. Rooney just got an alert for his 300k. Coogar go and cry. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:23pm On Feb 13, 2015 |
SailorXY: he wasn't poor. it took some time for him to settle into the game & that was it.
he was still miles ahead of Evans, that was why I exclaimed 'diaris God o' when I saw Evans ahead of him in the line up.
guys like elampiro like to tell us how coaches see things we don't in training, but make we no lie to ourselves - wetin Evans don do this season to merit a spot even ahead Blackett? make we talk true for once! I have nothing against Smalling, excerpt that I refused to see what put him ahead of Jones as you guys suggested. Jones is the preferred for club and country despite being the younger. He even met Smalling in Man United and even SAF favoured him over Smalling in selection. Smalling was a mediocre last season when he was used in defence and Jones in midfield. When Jones was used in defence he showed far more composure and quality than Smalling. Smalling ought to be ahead of Jones based on age and more years in first team, but he is yet to command. Evans was their boss but it's unfortunate that he is now the least. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:15pm On Feb 13, 2015 |
parrotibaba: u said fellaini has not had an assist d whole season ...or did I read it wrong ?  Fellaini, 880 mins. No Assists. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:14pm On Feb 13, 2015 |
chrisley024: That was Rooney last assist. He has 0 assist 0 goal now in 6-7 games now His new role doesn't require him to go look for Assists. That should be an accessory stat. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:12pm On Feb 13, 2015 |
raumdeuter: A fraud is a player a captain that has played several games this year and doesnt have a goal, an assist, not even a shot on target
Rooney is a fraud. As long as Man Utd stick with Rooney they wont reach the level other top clubs are.
Remove Rooney and Man Utd would excel Rooney is better than Muller and Lewandonky. How many goals do these guys even have as strikers? Man United almost went out of FA cup without Rooney. Rooney has been in the thick of action since successive wins. From midfield he is one of the top scorers. Bayern Munich is a fraud. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 5:09pm On Feb 13, 2015 |
dopeJemi: Elampawa, I hail thee una no see Rooney dey force keeper save vs Cambridge? i tire for una ooo |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:56pm On Feb 13, 2015 |
Bunch of liars. You people must have told a zillion liars against Rooney on this thread. UKWU!!!
Mata, Fellaini, Herrera and Carrick have all gone dry in these stats as well. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:54pm On Feb 13, 2015 |
raumdeuter: Rooney is a fraud Can you define fraud? The whole of Bayern Munich is a fraud. You people bought the referee to beat Man United in 2010. One man league- burndisleaguedown. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:52pm On Feb 13, 2015 |
dopeJemi: Leave Am make he dey lie like say na from burnley match we start to support man united You all are the liars. Rooney assisted against Yeovil.  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:49pm On Feb 13, 2015 |
dopeJemi: Even herrera score for FA Cup Coogar did not include FA cup not in his original stats for Rooney. Rooney had an assists for Di Maria in FA Cup.
If FA cup were included, then Rooney had an Assist and Shot on target in 2015 |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:43pm On Feb 13, 2015 |
elampiro: ...............................................Mins...Goals.Assists.Shot on target. 12/20/2014..Aston Villa..................90....0......0...... 1 12/26/2014..Newcastle United.........90....0......1...... 0 12/28/2014..Tottenham Hotspur......90....0...... 0...... 0 1/1/2015.....Stoke City..................90....0...... 0...... 0 1/11/2015...Southampton..............90.... 0...... 0...... 0 1/17/2015...Queens Park Rangers....45....0......0...... 0 1/31/2015...Leicester City..............13....0...... 0...... 0 ................................................518 I said this from the beginning, Mata has gone 518 mins without a goal. Chikena! |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:40pm On Feb 13, 2015 |
parrotibaba: baba easy d lie ,he assisted Juan Mata against Cambridge FA cup is not included in this argument. Rooney assisted Di Maria against Yeovil. You guys act confused many times and don't pay attention to details. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:37pm On Feb 13, 2015 |
coogar: elampiro, stop lying. falcao was onside. rooney was scared to make the pass. he turned back & lost the ball.
liar liar..... you said 508 mins. how's 418 the same thing as 508. are you blind?
mata assisted and took shots on target here according to your stats. why is this relevant?
elampiro = 270 + 58 is not 418 mins. this is the second lie you have told concerning this matter. you quoted 508, then you quoted 418. both numbers have been found out to be white lies.
besides - mata didn't complete the game against QPR & he was a sub that played for 13 mins against leicester.......how does he fit or compare with rooney that played 5 full games without scoring/assisting or shooting on target?  You clearly did not do mathematics in school. I stated the number of mins Mata did not score. I quoted the number of mins he did not assists and I quoted the number of mins he did not have a shot at goal. You don't pay attention to details instead you keep telling lies and changing someone's statements. Mata played in more advance role than Rooney. Ukwu!!! On Falcao, he was offside. Stop telling lies for a living. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:49am On Feb 13, 2015 |
* The last time Herrera had a shot on target was against Leicester on 21/9/2014, the same match he scored.
* Carrick has only had 1 shot on target this season.
* Fellaini has not had an Assist the whole season. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:26am On Feb 13, 2015 |
coogar: apollo dey worry you. that pass was on...... falcao was on as at the time rooney was on the ball.
when did this happen? which year? which month? which club? stop making blanket statements to cover for flop rooney. 1. What are you talking about sef? Your first picture says it all. Put a ruler on Falcao's line and see for your self. Before Rooney could pass that ball, Falcao was already offside. 2. elampiro: Mata has gone 508 EPL minutes without a goal from even a more advanced position. 328 EPL minutes without an Assists. Rooney even tried too much sef. This is what I told you earlier. Instead of you to go investigate you went arguing. He has also gone 418 mins without a shot on target. Now see it below: ...............................................Mins...Goals.Assists.Shot on target. 12/20/2014..Aston Villa..................90....0......0...... 1 12/26/2014..Newcastle United.........90....0......1...... 0 12/28/2014..Tottenham Hotspur......90....0...... 0...... 0 1/1/2015.....Stoke City..................90....0...... 0...... 0 1/11/2015...Southampton..............90.... 0...... 0...... 0 1/17/2015...Queens Park Rangers....45....0......0...... 0 1/31/2015...Leicester City..............13....0...... 0...... 0 Season.....................................1470...5...... 3.......7 |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:37pm On Feb 12, 2015 |
They said Rooney is the problem why Falcao and RVP cannot score. Rooney did not play against Cambridge when we played goalless. Why did Falcao, RVP and Wilson not score?
Me I don tire fa. Walahi! |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:34pm On Feb 12, 2015 |
coogar: falcao wasn't offside - stop supporting nonsense. rooney was too sloppy to see the pass. He was offside. Even before Rooney got to kick the ball, Falcao was already off. So Rooney was left no option than to revise. coogar: where's the mata stats? the one that says mata didn't score or assist or take a shot on target? don't tell me you have closed your laptop.  When does shot on target become a goal? I have already given you the number of mins Mata has gone without scoring and number of minutes he has gone without assisting. Chikena. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:04pm On Feb 12, 2015 |
I want to go. We have a coach who sees better from his stand. All this stuffs from sentiments are irrelevant. None of us could have seen it better than Gaal, Giggs and other crew members who sat right there. They also review these clips.
Good night guys. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:02pm On Feb 12, 2015 |
coogar: it's a pity you are not used to watching games on curved TV yet. that pass was on - the rooney of 3 seasons ago would make that pass.
there's no way rooney can know falcao was offside from where he was. he went back & then lost possession. how can people blame falcao & VP when rooney is clueless with the ball? It's clear here that Falcao was offside. Rooney was intelligent enough not to pass to him, if it were one of those inexperienced players he would have passed it and lost possession to referee's whistle. Rooney's other alternative would have been to send it with his left foot to Di Maria. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:57pm On Feb 12, 2015 |
Dadehmola: In the diamond formation employed by LVG when we were getting results and playing well ( atleast to a reasonable extent), which players dey there Abeg? I think Gaal got discouraged when Leicester won every ball against us in midfield. Although we won against QPR, West Ham. But we conceded immediately he came on in the diamond against Southampton. Apart from the above I can't remember which other diamond Herera played for us. Against Stoke he was in the number 10 while Rooney was in the midfield. This buttress the fact Gaal is not so comfortable with him in midfield (may until we get a gorrila behind him). |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:42pm On Feb 12, 2015 |
coogar: which offside? falcao was on.....i dunno why the gif didn't load. falcao made the run from deep & mumu rooney ran back.  Clear offside from the first picture. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:39pm On Feb 12, 2015 |
coogar: that's understandable! if van persie feels he can score, he's entitled to ignore mata & take the shot.
rooney wasn't even attempting to score, he was attempting to pass backwards. falcao was through on goal if that pass was made. at worst, he would get an assist.
rooney - biggest liability in europe. 
which period was this? be a man & provide the exact month or year mata started 5 full games consecutively without scoring or assisting or shooting on target.
take up the challenge.... You cant see Falcao was offside already? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:37pm On Feb 12, 2015 |
Dadehmola: I don't get this o..
As regards Herrera being benched, Does it mean that a kroos, modric or scholes/ xavi ( in their hey days) won't make our starting 11 as we speak? Ask Gaal. I think it depends on the partnership and balance of the team. I gave the example where we played all creative players twice and we did poorly. Blind and Herrera will have to get used to EPL physicality, high sped and lots of flying balls. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:34pm On Feb 12, 2015 |
coogar: that's a lie. mata must have scored, assisted or hit shots on target. please provide the evidence. how can mata go almost 6 full games without testing the goalie? He did not score. That's what I told you. He also went a long spell without Assisting. I gave you the minutes. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:32pm On Feb 12, 2015 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:29pm On Feb 12, 2015 |
coogar: 450 mins, 0 goals, 0 assists, 0 shots on target
from this position, •blind has scored twice •ramsey got 20 goals last season •alex song got 14 assists at arsenal
how unreliable can rooney be?  Mata has gone 508 EPL minutes without a goal from even a more advanced position. 328 EPL minutes without an Assists. Rooney even tried too much sef. |