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codedguy1:
Thanks for understanding my point.

Elamps just wan start argument wey no get end just because I mentioned Rooneys name for a poor control he did at a crucial moment. I don't have that strength.




It was a mistake! But even with that am happy intelligent people got my point.

Wilson for Rvp or di Maria for Val or vice versa was not the point I was driving at.

Someone has cleared the air you are still insisting on something trivial.

Dadehmola:
I think he meant to stress the point that ; had agbolanhor been carded while Rvp was on the pitch, LVG wouldn't have subbed him

Dadehmola:
Which one did you watch?

codedguy1:
It was just a few minutes after subbibg RvP for Wilson that the red card came. I don't think Lvg would have removed RvP if the red card came while Rvp was on the pitch.

Wilson, Evans and Fletcher need to rediscover what their talents are - maybe guinea fowl hunters or something because right now they don't even look like ball boys in a primary sch match.

codedguy1:
I no vex, I just did not understand why he would think that particular perfect pass to Rvp would be what I would be critical of.

Immediate after that incident there was a ball Rooney shud have controlled for himself to take a shot he bungled it about 2 - 3 other miscontrols tha he did in the game.

Rooney has well in this game, nothing spectacular but he has done well. I was hust particular about that failed control because it was a big chance for us.

chrisley024:
Exactly. Di maria and Wilson offered nothing. Young and Val should have remained in their positions or Val for Rafael.

Unto da next.

Dadehmola:
You can say that again...

Even if Rvp wasn't contributing much, The Wilson sub was just ridiculous!!

I was expecting di Maria (even though he struggled) to come in for mata.

2 points dropped but fortunately, it has no effect on our position

Newcastle next...

codedguy1:
Rooney and controlling the ball. Ha!

How did Rvp missed that.

MrTA:
LvG said from day one he was a big fan of Carrick so I'm not surprised.

leggo:
this man stop trolling joor.. We prefer your elampiro moniker... End transmission

SailorXY:
so because he 'keeps the ball', he has justified clamor of Chelshit lauding him as an £80m commodity?

SailorXY:
tell me that attacker in our team who does 'make e no spoil for my hand' passes, write his name boldly

SailorXY:
ogbeni, Shirley has typed a lot of contradictions in few minutes to make the grande finale of any negative world event. all these article you typed only heaps vomit on scat.

SailorXY:
if she earlier said a playmaker cannot be the same as a deep-lying midfielder, then what is Pirlo & Xavi doing on your list?

SailorXY:
if Fabregas was a playmaker for Arsenal, what is Fabregas for Chelshit now? if Netherlands had no recognized playmaker & made WC final, why is it imperative we have one to play good football? Okocha did playmaking for Super Eagles from CM, just like Papilo did from basically a second striker position, so?

SailorXY:
it is not written in any FIFA book that the playmaker of a team must be in center midfield. many games has flowed through different positioned players in different eras: Ronaldinho in Barcelona, Carrick in United, Pirlo in Juventus, Robben for Netherlands, Sneijder for Netherlands 2010, Sneijder for Inter Milan, Messi in Barcelona, Giggs in United, Viera in Arsenal, Campo in Bolton, di Maria in Madrid, Nedved in Juventus, Finidi in Ajax, Baggio in Italy, Maradonna in Argentina, a lot of Everton games flowed through Baines as well; so she has, just like you, proved nothing!

SailorXY:
Mata deserves his accolades, he's praises are not overblown either. Hazard & Oscar are the overrated players.

SailorXY:
so if a playmaker has a bad day, he seizes to be one until he gets another good day on the pitch?

this long argument na just English Language cause am ooo.

SailorXY:
was Okocha a playmaker?
is Fabregas a playmaker?
who was the playmaker for the Netherlands in Brazil?
can you name your top 5 playmakers in the world presently.

SailorXY:
Shirley was stressing the point that a playmaker very different from a deep-lying midfielder, that was why I asked her that question.

when van Gaal deployed the diamond Herrera - Blind - Angel - Rooney; Blind & Herrera did most of the midfield interchanges & little one-twos to keep possession with the full backs, Angel started most of the attacks functioning as an inverted winger & a central midfielder together, Rooney made lots of late runs into the channel created by one of the strikers who drags his marker away. their roles were clearly defined & the pattern worked. the downside was the lack of energy & pace tracking back, and that's why van Gaal is looking to add steel in the mix - step forward Fellaini.

Shirley harping on this playmaker subject & nullifying the gaffer's (obvious) reach for balance, is just singing awilo

adebayo201:
elampiro

Odunharry:
Juan Mata outperforming Eden Hazard since moving from Chelsea
to Manchester United

On a per minute basis Mata
betters Hazard for goals and assists. For every 158 minutes that it has taken Eden Hazard to either score
a goal or provide an assist in the Premier League since Mata’s move, it has taken Juan Mata 21 minutes less
to do the same, scoring a goal or making an assist every 137 minutes.

soccerlens.com/juan-mata-outperforming-eden-hazard-since-moving-chelsea-manchester-united/158418/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=juan-mata-outperforming-eden-hazard-since-moving-chelsea-manchester-united

coogar:
09/10 isn't 11/12.
stop muddling this argument with irrelevant information. every man & his dog knew how we beat arsenal in 09/10. runners & a striker with the back to his goal. tell us another story.

are you saying whoscored doesn't know the difference between 4-4-2 or 4-4-1-1?

coogar:
whoscored said we played 4-4-1-1 only twice that season. it then shows whoscored understand the difference between 4-4-2 & 4-4-1-1.

elampawa, your argument is becoming weak.

coogar:
who says there isn't?
however, rooney wasn't a false-9 in sunderland. he played in an advanced position and was supported by giggsy.




that's exactly what we played......i have exposed you on how you choose your info to suit your argument. the same whoscored you rubbished about our 4-4-2 is the one you are presenting as an evidence - all from the same season.

elampawa, you either agree whoscored is the holy grail or they are rubbish. choose one & stop flip-flopping. you have to be consistent in what you present as your evidence.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/1949154_image_jpeg9f360c5ab7736510df54c882e9dbf188

whoscored had it that we played 4-4-2 in 31 league games that season.

case closed!!!