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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:06pm On Mar 11, 2020
Liverpool scored two goals

Di the full backs give Assist? I just got back home and watching now. Wetin happen?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:54pm On Mar 11, 2020
Why people get confused is that some teams or coaches use a player with striking capability in the number 10 (central attacking midfield). So journalists and fans call such players as strikers still or forward players. Like when Rooney played behind RVP/Welbeck/Chicharito or when Wellbeck played behind Chicharito/RVP in 4-2-3-1 setting. In one or two of our matches, Martial has played there behind Rashford.

Some other coaches, which is mostly common use players with wing or midfield capabilities to play the number 10. So people still get confused and say midfielders. E.g Oscar, Silva, Hazard, Ozil, etc

But one fact remains, we are talking about the position and not the player. Whoever is playing in the hole (number 10) is a forward player irrespective of whether the person is naturally a midfielder or a natural striker. If a player is converted to goalkeeper, he does the job of a goalkeeper. When Valencia was converted to fullback, he is known till his death as a natural winger but at that time he was a playing in fullback.



European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:42pm On Mar 11, 2020
odizeey:
I hear you sir. Preach on.
Preaching on,

A defensive midfielder has a duty to shield the defence. An attacking midfielder has no such duty, but his duty is to work with the the other forwards. Silva was never held liable for defensive duty as it was demanded from Fernadinho and Fernando. Maradona was mostly an attacking midfielder or a second striker. If I hear say no be forward player. Or those few instances Messi played in the central attacking midfield, you will now tell me he was not a forward player.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:22pm On Mar 11, 2020
odizeey:
So no Defensive Midfield on this one? cheesy
It is not emphasized in a 4-2-3-1

4= defenders
2= central midfielders
3= Attacking midfielders (first line of forward players)
1= striker (second line of forward) players

In some other formation like 4-1-4-1, a DM is highlighted. Or even 4-3-3, 0r 4-4-2 Diamond
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:13pm On Mar 11, 2020
odizeey:
Is Matic a defender?
Matic is a defensive midfielder or/and a central midfielder. Matic therefore is a pure midfielder. Same with Fred. Scholes and Carrick
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:11pm On Mar 11, 2020
BlueAngel444:
thought Dybala is a forward

Anyway most players play multiple positions, just like Silva in city
Dybala is number 10

He plays as an attacking midfielder or as a second striker. Both positions are number 10
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:07pm On Mar 11, 2020
Expert17:
No 4--- Busquet, Carrick, Matic, Roy keane, Ndidi etc

No 8- Scholes, Fred, Bruno Fernandes, Gerrard, De bruyne etc

No 10- Ozil, Mata, Dybala

You know ball, but only one thing. Bruno is number 10. CAM is always 10.

If you play as a second striker or as a central attacking midfielder, your are playing number 10
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:05pm On Mar 11, 2020
eph12:
Since we started winning are the attackers still useless?
1. I see you guys curse James, heavily criticize Greenwood, Lingard and co. But everyone praising Bissaka, not because he scores, but because he defends very well. Now those whose responsibility it is to score and scoring, Bissaka is now being praised for sweeping Sterling.

2. I have not called for our forwards to be benched, I only said they are not as good as what Liverpool has and I still stand by that. I said our central midfeilders are better than Liverpool's and I still stand by that. But you guys said our midfielders and fullbacks are useless and best to be on the bench.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:58pm On Mar 11, 2020
patrickmuf:
Hehehe Na Elampsbaba na him way...When you hear say ball hard, you think say na joke? Him no sabi ball.
A crowd saying a wrong thing doesnt make it right. They are only ignorant. An attacking midfielder is a forward player. In 4231, there are four forward players.

Football is not meant for light weight to analyse. When they say Hazard is a midfielder in football, someone like you will begin to compare his position with that of Fred or Fernadinho
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:55pm On Mar 11, 2020
odizeey:
Go outside go talk say Bruno na attacker, them go first laugh you.
If na for yonder dem fit beat you gan.

Which one be front four again. My lawd. grin
Bruno is an attacking midfielder. He is a forward doesn't mean he is a striker.

According to transfermarket, Bruno Fernadez plays three positions= Attacking midfield, Second striker and central midfield.

For United, he is an attacking midfielder. In 4231, attacking midfielder is a forward player.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:51pm On Mar 11, 2020
patrickmuf:
What was Xavi's position? What was Busquets position? What was Iniesta's position?
Are you trying to argue that number 10 is CM? Don't do this. No wonder you dey make argument tedious
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:32pm On Mar 11, 2020

Question for Patrick and EPH

How many goals has Bissaka scored since we started winning?

Is Bissaka still useless?


European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:30pm On Mar 11, 2020
patrickmuf:
In a 4 3 3, you have wing forwards but in a 4 4 2 or 4 2 3 1, you have LMF and RMF flanking an AM...Martial plays CF so, I don't get what you're on about.
So.now you mean, when we played 4-2-3-1 with Rashford as CF and Martial on the left as right wing player, then Martial is a midfielder?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:28pm On Mar 11, 2020
patrickmuf:
Lol, a No. 10 is a CM, an 8 is the AM which is still a midfielder.
You no know ball. Number 10 is the position behind the striker. It is the attacking midfielder. He is a forward player. That was the position Rooney played
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:17pm On Mar 11, 2020
patrickmuf:
No, according to Elampiro, De Bruyne, David Silva, Bruno, Ozil etc are all attackers and not midfielders...
They are forward players if they play in 4-2-3-1. But midfielders if they play in 4-3-3
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:15pm On Mar 11, 2020
airmark:
That you didn't call him a midfielder, didnt mean you were right.

CMs DMs AMs are Midfielders in soccer. Ozil is a midfielder. Bruno is a midfielder.
Was Rooney a midfielder in 2012/2013, 2013/2014?

I am not wrong. LW and RW are also midfielders in the sense you argue. If you check Premier League website highest chances created by midfielders, you are going to see wingers. So in that sense, Martial, James are midfielders.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:11pm On Mar 11, 2020
patrickmuf:
Lol you were blaming the forwards whilst we blamed the supporting cast (midfield, fullbacks and CBs who played too deep).
The fact remains that the central midfield has not changed. Also the fullbacks. What has charged is the forward. The number 10 (hole) is always a forward.

patrickmuf:
.

I have seen folks here admit that Shaw, Wan-Bissaka and the midfield have improved, any coincidence the forwards are scoring now?
More like Martial has improved due to competition from Ighalo. Although Martial usually have on and off form.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:17am On Mar 11, 2020
eph12:
When Rooney was playing in the midfield, was he a midfielder?
Rooney was not a midfielder when he played behind Van Persie in 2012/2013, 2013/2014.

He was playing in the hole. Rooney only attempted to play in midfield in Van Gal's last season.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:15am On Mar 11, 2020
Someone keeps saying McTominay has scored. When I was saying McTominay was very good and had 3 league goals and that he was not part of our problem, they were arguing.

Has McTominay not been scoring? I remember I said he is our player who is most likely to hit target from outside the box..
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:38am On Mar 11, 2020
eph12:
Attacking midfielders are midfielders. Tom has scored about 3 goals recently. Fred has scored assisted a goal. Bruno has scored and assisted. That's what we have been asking for. Dazzal
Then Martial, Rashford and James are also midfielders when they play right and left wings.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:36am On Mar 11, 2020
airmark:
Bruno is playing as a midfielder for your team and you just bought him. You have always been saying attacking midfielders in 4231 are not midfielders, it's wrong.
It is not wrong. Even the right wing and lert wing are also called midfielders. But we are talking about central midfielders. This was why in my argument with you, we never considered Lingard in it. Lingard was having the best chances created in the combined team, but I never called him a midfielder. Rooney was not a midfielder behind Van Persie. It is same position.

Bruno is playing as aattacking midfielder.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:20am On Mar 11, 2020
eph12:
Yeah we did

We still have the same striker scoring almost every game. The same one you said was the sole reason for our poor attack.
We did not but any central midfielder. McTominay and Fred were always good and I said were better than what Liverpool had. But you guys kept condemning them as well as the full backs.

I stated categorically that in 4-2-3-1, the last four are forward. They should create for themselves first before we others. Martial is one of them. Lingard/Pereira/Mata, Martial, James, Rashford were to be held responsible first in terms of creativity. Currently, Bruno is now one of them.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:25am On Mar 11, 2020
patrickmuf:
If I talk now you'll call Bruno a forward. With Bruno coming in, the quality of balls the strikers get is better and their goal return tells you a lot. Now, imagine if it was Pereira and Lingard playing as the link man between midfield and attack, won't we have folks here bashing Martial every other day?
You were blaming the wrong people. I told you the central midfield where we have McTominay, Fred and Matic was okay. The front four was the issue. At some point I said we needed to get a number 10 like Silva to make us play better. I also said the number 10 playing in the hole has the number one responsibility to create and then the forward. But you were too deep in blaming the wrong people to understand
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:16am On Mar 11, 2020
eph12:
The midfielders and defenders have been contributing to the goals + assists in the last 3 weeks or so
But we did not buy a new defender or midfielder.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 6:42am On Mar 11, 2020
Gradually guys are no longer saying our full backs are not creative. Even the central midfield.

We are beginning to appreciate how important for players to be good first at their primary assignment before everything else can be added.

It is important for the back to be strong so that the front will drop less to help the back. It is important for the front to be productive so that the back knows when it gives the ball to the front, something is very likely to come out of it.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:07pm On Mar 09, 2020
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:00pm On Mar 09, 2020
ChristineC:
didn't Pogba cover like the most grounds for our midfielders last season?
Manchester United Players distance covered per 90 mins in EPL 18/19(total time>1400 mins)

Pogba:distance covered 317.14km,total time 2559 mins,distance covered per 90 mins:317.14/2559*90=11.15km


Rashford:distance covered 229.50km,total time 1930 mins,distance covered per 90 mins:229.50/1930*90=10.70km

Matic:distance covered 294.06km,total time 2207 mins,distance covered per 90 mins:11.99km


Martial:distance covered 156.03km,total time 1482 mins,distance covered per 90 mins:9.48km

Lukaku:distance covered 211.60km,total time 1932 mins,distance covered per 90 mins:9.86km

Lingard:distance covered 204.69km,total time 1496 mins,distance covered per 90 mins:12.31km

Shaw:distance covered 268.90km,total time 2322 mins,distance covered per 90 mins:10.42km

Young:distance covered 259.44km,total time 2164 mins,distance covered per 90 mins:10.79km

Lindlof:distance covered 248.63km,total time 2249 mins,distance covered per 90 mins:9.95km

Smalling:distance covered 215.12km,total time 1858 mins,distance covered per 90 mins:10.42km
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:54pm On Mar 09, 2020
ChristineC:
didn't Pogba cover like the most grounds for our midfielders last season?
Per match?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:06pm On Mar 09, 2020
Ravioli:
Manchester United covered 113km yesterday, compared to Manchester City's 110km. Fred covered the most on the pitch with 12.18km
If we play Pogba,we will lose some of the yards in midfield. Someone like KDB will just be having a wide space to run
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:16pm On Mar 08, 2020
afrodoc2:
Luke Shaw has been excellent lately.
Yes. He is proving me wrong now.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:17am On Mar 08, 2020
Matic to get two years
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:19pm On Mar 07, 2020
CapitalCee:
I watched the clip. Though the abuse was harsh. I dont see any abuse on PERSONAL LEVEL there. I only heard things, "you are shit Lingard"......F...ck off Lingard" .... "0 goals, 0 assists in 2019". The racist abuse is not yet confirmed even. So i dont see any personal thing their. To me this is Criticism though in a harsh and invasive manner. Go to banks, business/Corporate organisations and companies and see how employees are reprimanded you wont be talking like this. Or have you forgotten that he (Lingard) is an employee? How many times have you insulted Buhari just this year? Do you know the level of insults and abuses Trump and Boris Johnson recieve from Americans and British people? Lingard is paid 100k a week, thats the Annual pay of an experience Medical consultant in NHS. So he need to develop tough skin and soldier on, or he resign. Simple. People pay north of 100 pounds on match days to watch the team play well, most people even travel on away games from Manchester to say Southampton, do you know how much that cost? I sometimes rearrange a work shift just to watch United matches, or do you think the fans too dont have personal issues? Ronaldo's mum was also sick you know. if you give your car to a mechanic to repair, and he collects his wages upfront from you. I dont think you will take it lightly him, if he damage you vehicle beyond repairs and come up with a story that he couldn't concentrate because his wife was in the hospital, or he want to do school run for his children. I know you will be asking for a refund at the minimum.
But a bank employee is reprimanded by his boss, not just a random person insulting him.

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