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elampiro:
This is what we are playing:

Bissaka.....Lidelof.....Maguire....Luke

........................Matic

.....McTominay............Fred

.......................Bruno

......Greenwood........Martial

Larride

Matic at the base of the Diamond as DM, Bruno at the tip as CAM, with L and R occupied by Fred and McTominay

elampiro:
This is what we are playing:

RB.....CB.....CB....LB

..............DM

.....MR............ML

............CAM

......CF........CF

larride:
In this formation, where is Fred and Matic playing.

You no know ball true true

Matic is DM

Fred is ML right

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Bruno

This is what we are playing:

RB.....CB.....CB....LB

..............DM

.....MR............ML

............CAM

......CF........CF

larride:
Are you sure you are not watching your match under the canopy?

You no know ball

nitrogen:
Actually, it's like a free role for him, he is everywhere

He choose to be everywhere. But his primary role is CAM. Just like Silva sometimes would go camp with his right or left winger when played as CAM

larride:
I don’t understand this 4-4-2 diamond.

Bruno is obviously wasted on the wings.

You can’t play 4-4-2 diamond with Shaw n AWB as full back.

Bruno is playing in the hole. Central attacking midfield behind the two strikers

Play Bailly, not Linderlof

eph12:
And this 40 goals was checked around January too?

They were already thirty something. Even now, they have not contributed much percentage.

patrickmuf:
If we pull out stats, Iniesta will look like a normal player compared to other less fancied midfielders of his time. Creativity goes well beyond supplying the final pass.

Creativity reflects in at least some of the attacking stats, like goals, Assists, chances created, dribbling, forward passes, through balls, etc.

patrickmuf:
With Pogba and Fernandez starting, yes...When we had that argument, Fernandez wasn't our player and Pogba as everything indicates is on his way out bar a last minute change of mind.

Henderson covers for Arnold who doesn't have the pace to track back in record time like Robertson does when he bombs forward.

When Liverpool played Watford at Anfield, only poor finishing stopped Watford from at least getting a point. Norwich too should have at least gotten a point if not for poor finishing...

I think Liverpool players are tired. Ghen ghen pressing takes its toll on the players in the long run. I hope Liverpool don't suffer burnout at this stage because I really want them to eliminate Atletico and win the league. I hope their resurgence will pressure our board to get serious with the football side of things.

I am talking of Fred and McTominay. I ave you some stats weeks back. McTominay had better attacking stats than Liverpool CMs

eph12:
No goal or assist from the full backs, see the way elampiro best front three are struggling against the bottom team.

Salah, Mane and Firminho has scored 40 EPL goals this season and the total Assists received from Arnold and Robertson is less than 10 as at the last time I checked around January.

patrickmuf:
Was it not you who claimed their midfield was subpar and that their attackers were their main creative force? Do you even remember the things you say to start with?

I still stand by my words that our midfield is more creative. I did not say their midfield was subpar. I still also stand that Henderson absence is not the reason they lost. Their attack is the most creative. Even Rooney, Ronaldo and Tevez always lost to one small team every season

eph12:
Can we now conclude that LFC attack is shit and the front three is not as good as you have been claiming here?

I never had any theory that the front three were singled out in Spain. But you made us think that Liverpool failed to score in Spain because their fullbacks were tamed.

patrickmuf:
You're just impossible...I have always maintained that TAA is poor defensively, Henderson does a lot of work to cover him. It's no surprise that Liverpool suffered in the absence of Henderson. In attack, TAA is just about the best RB, he is young though and will definitely improve the defensive aspect of his game.

Since you're good at digging old post, please go back in time to confirm what I wrote up there.

I knew since yesterday that the bolded part will be the next excuse even though you guys claimed last week that it is the full backs that are the most important.

For your information, Henderson did not play in their last win over West Ham. He has missed starting 6 league matches this season. Only Dijk has played all 28 matches from start to finish. Anold and Robertson are next with 27 matches.

Lana1:
The same way you hyped Jones.

How?

Like saying Jones is the best defender in the EPL?

Lana1:
Robertson is a much better full back than Trent but he's not from England, and he doesn't drop 100 crosses per game like Trent so the media wont hype him up and compare him to Marcelo and Alves.

Media hyped Arnold or you guys here. I have not seen media praise him even 20% as much as the praise he gets here which are championed by Patrickmuf and eph.

Liverpool needed this win to create the longest winning streak in EPL history.

So the last time Liverpool dropped points was against Man United in October.

3-0

Liverpool down two nil

eph12:
Bruno's pass to Mata

Fred had two goals and 1 assist yesterday. Tom scored one. That's 3 goals contribution from the CM. 3 goals out of 5. This is what we have been demanding from the midfielders especially against teams that sit back

Both Mata and Bruno were in the front four.

What happened against Brugges (if it is to be reckoned with since they played 10 men), is a confirmation that with good creative front four, our central midfielders are not average or shit as many here have argued for months.

eph12:
Assists? Midfielders getting into positions to deliver the final pass or assisting the assister?

I don't understand this and what you mean by assisting the assister.

eph12:
Wait, its no more front 3 again?

You created that in your mind and not from my arguments. I clearly stated that we play 4-2-3-1, therefore Lingard/Periera/Mata who play in the hole are considered forward players. In 4.2.3.1, the first 4 are defenders, the next 2 are midfielders, the last four are forward players.

I have always spoken for McTominay and Fred that are very good. All my argument has been for the two central midfielders and not any attacking midfielders.

eph12:
What we have been telling elampiro

It is the front four that has changes not the midfield two. I told you that we have no problem in the central midfield but the front four

Wrong quote.

olabode89:
If he can polish his first touch and attempt more forward passes he will be a much better player.

He has good first touch na

It is beginning to look like we have a strong squad. With three more hit transfers, we will be perfect.

pharod:
Is Fred finally a Brazilian??

I never gave up on that guy even at his worst moments. I saw what he was always trying to do, mostly those quick forward play, passing between the lines. But he was playing in an unstable team.

Today, 2 goals and 1 Assist

It looks like Ighalo presence as a CF is giving us so much room to operate in the final 3rd. He engages the defenders as someone observes.

James actually would get the opening goal if not for the hand ball