European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:57pm On Feb 02, 2020 |
obainojazz: Gary Neville
You look at what Liverpool, Man City and Tottenham have done, and compare it to what Manchester United have done. If the recruitment is wrong you ultimately end up paying for it.
"The gameplan today was fine from United. If you were playing with Messi, Suarez and Neymar up front you'd probably play the same way against Wolves. You'd control the game and wait for that moment and one of your front three would go and deliver for you. United don't have that front three at the moment who can go and provide that moment of magic.
"They've signed Ighalo - maybe he can give a bit more presence in terms of putting crosses into the box.
"The fact is, United were chasing a goal at 0-0 and they've had to bring on Jesse Lingard and Diogo Dalot, that tells you exactly where Manchester United are at.
After watching today's game.. I told Nitrogen abI oxygen our forwards are shitt..oga was arguing.. Jiminez playing for us would have even scored Patrcicmuf Please read this. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:14pm On Feb 01, 2020 |
handelex: Manchester United boss Ole Gunnar Solskjaer speaking to Sky Sports: "It was a game as you expected really. We dominated the game, had loads of possession, they gave us problems on counter attacks and set plays. "We've played so many games in the past few months the players are down to the barebones, Energy levels are down and the need a break. "We got Bruno deeper on the ball for us. I felt we controlled the first half as well. "In the second half we threatened a little bit more. I feel the ground staff must have moved the goal slightly to the right! "Bruno is a top player. It's the first game. First half everyone was getting the ball into feet and Bruno is one of those who, when he gets into feet, he wants players moving in front of him and we didn't . "He'll be a top addition." Bruno is one of those who, when he gets into feet, he wants players moving in front of him and we didn't.  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:33pm On Feb 01, 2020 |
Lana1: It's either Mata or Lingard. Cant see any other options. We're fücked Lingard would have been better today in place of Pereira. Fernadez should have paired in midfield with Fred. Matic will be back next match sha. So Pereira will go to the bench |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:30pm On Feb 01, 2020 |
elampiro: Ole wanted to play tiki taka with Fernadez, Fred, Mata and Pereira but this is EPL. One of Pereira and Mata should not have started. There was no urgency in attack. I meant here one of Mata or Pereira should not have started. Not Fred as I made a mistake in my comment |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:29pm On Feb 01, 2020 |
Martial is best playing off another pacing striker who stretches the defence and opening up some spaces behind. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:27pm On Feb 01, 2020 |
Ole wanted to play tiki taka with Fernadez, Fred, Mata and Pereira but this is EPL. One of Pereira and Mata should not have started. There was no urgency in attack. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:49pm On Feb 01, 2020 |
2nd half everyone playing nonsense so far |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:32pm On Feb 01, 2020 |
CapitalCee: I have written off Martial completely, Its now clear that Rashford has both more talent and attitude than him. Defenders no longer fear him. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:30pm On Feb 01, 2020 |
How can anyone look at this team and believe the attack is okay and the problem is midfield+defence
Which defenders will be scared of this kind of forward players. No threat, no swerving, no bullet |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:27pm On Feb 01, 2020 |
Martial has been the worst player. He is easily bullied off the ball and losses it on his own. Also making wrong passes. He killed a good counter |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:09am On Feb 01, 2020 |
Prectega: Shekpites wassup Is this photokiosk? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:55pm On Jan 31, 2020*. Modified: 12:15am On Feb 01, 2020 |
ChristineC: we obviously didn't get each other so let's move on.
what do you think of your in-law in Man Utd?  No we must get each other ooo Ighalo? If deal is done, then we have a big striker striker who can play with his back to the goal. But not United standard from previous performance. However, I love to see a Nigerian in United. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:39pm On Jan 31, 2020 |
ChristineC: that mean our definitions of embarrassment are obviously different. I thought you meant those first 11 will finish top 3. Where did embarrassment come from? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:55pm On Jan 31, 2020 |
ChristineC: de Gea, AWB, Lindelof, Maguire, Williams, McTom, Fred, Pogba, Rashford, Martial, James. that's the best 11 (even if we switch Williams for Shaw). I'll be surprised if this group have played two games together so far.
which relegation team embarrassed them and in what sense? scandalous defeats or being outplayed? a good percentage of defeats this season have been down to individual errors. These players lost to Palace at Old Trafford, Drew Wolves the previous week. The 9 players highlighted were in the team. Only Fred and William were not there |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 6:27am On Jan 31, 2020 |
Guys have forgotten how influential Lingard was for England at the world cup and how he was ahead of Martial in United team selection at the time.
Is it the reason I don't confront Afrodoc on the Lingard talks I see everytime because the guy was very good even just a year ago. He went on injury and returned a poor player. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 6:21am On Jan 31, 2020 |
elrony: Stop this nonsense at once!!!  Jones was being ask for by Arsene Wenger before he retired. Some other clubs showed interest at the time. Lingard was our most consistent forward player for two years even benching Martial. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 6:15am On Jan 31, 2020 |
ChristineC: OGS has a first eleven good enough for top three, barely. squad depth, however, is almost non-existent. it's a litter of has-beens and inexperience. it's of no use cherry picking who's messiah and whatnot. any lengthy lay off for up to 3 players in the first eleven will spell inconsistency. it's just facts to the bare bone. Who are these best 11? Every selection we have put out there have been embarrassed by a relegation haunted team. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:51am On Jan 31, 2020 |
Pogba will soon return. We will see the 'messiah soon'. Tgat was how Anthony Martial was 'messiah' while he was out injured. I remember telling guys that those who don't play are seen as the 'messiah' |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:05am On Jan 31, 2020 |
ChristineC: nah. they got those wages due to incompetence in administration. Anthony Martial signed a £250k weekly pay package after months of being on the fringes of the first eleven. that's solid bullshit and if he preferred to leave then by all means they should have let him happen. players getting rewards they don't deserve will make even the most committed slump in desire. it happens in all spheres of life. Not talking about Martial but Jones and Lingard who have been here since a decade ago. There must have been clubs trying to take them away with higher wages. We cannot just let everyone go because injuries must come. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:52pm On Jan 30, 2020 |
footiemaniac: I like the look of the defense so far which was the area we invested heavily during the summer transfer window and it is far better than that of 18/19 season. The defense is only going to get better with time. Adaptation takes time with some players.
Yes, I still disagree. This squad with the addition of Bruno and the return of key players from injury is better than that of 18/19 season. We are building something here, this squad looks fitter and can actually press from the front and very dangerous on counter attacks compare to the lethargic and unfit display of last season. I also saw them yesterday trying to pass it out from the back rather than hoof it to Fellaini or Lukaku. You could argue that the squad is not big enough to cater for injuries to key players during critical time. With any young squad, you will definitely get inconsistency, but they will all learn and mature real soon.
Should i remind you how Jurgen klopp team finished 8th, 4th , 4th? but they kept at it, now you can all see the reward. Patience is the keyword. That passing from the back yesterday no give you BP? We cannot pass better than City and we should have known that. And the defence rely so much of offside trap. How long will they keep getting away with narrow escape? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:28am On Jan 30, 2020 |
Leyqute: Sanchez was a 'god' at Arsenal. Once he secured the bag at Man Utd, he turned to rubbish.
Shaw looked like a fantastic talent- until he got that salary bump.
Once their contract is about to expire and they don't have many options, it's not uncommon for players to start putting in a good shift so as to get a good contract at their current place or elsewhere. Sanchez game already dropped at Arsenal. He lost some pace too which mainly affected his swift attacking play. It looks like some forward players start losing pace at 28. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:39am On Jan 30, 2020 |
dubylhover: I just watched the post match interview,when ogs was asked about the freekick,he said mata is the best taker but in training yesterday Fred scored like 7 times. Even mata suggested that Fred should take it This is what I was saying earlier. As if I knew. We don't know what is happening in training. Also, Mata's free-kicks are becoming weak but he still has the accuracy. The Fred's kick was travelling fast that had it gone above the wall, the keeper would not be any where near it. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:14am On Jan 30, 2020 |
rationalmind: It's not from the same position. The free kick Mata missed was a lot closer to the box and will always be difficult to execute.
The one Fred hit against the wall was from a very sweet spot. I also think Mata would have done better. The closer to the box the better for Mata. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:11am On Jan 30, 2020 |
timay: So?
Going by your Logic, it's just like saying that the fact that Messi missed two previous set piece from similar spot, then he shouldn't take the next one that comes after it, and meanwhile he is still the best person with the highest probability to score from such position. Mata has scored from there time and time again , and he's probably in the top 3 best free kick taker from such positions in the EPL. So I don't know why Ole didn't intervene and make Mata take the freekick instead of a rookie freekick taker True But we don't know what has been happening in training. I was also surprised Fred took it. Why I replied is that he said Mata would have scored. Like he was 100% certain. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:09am On Jan 30, 2020 |
chrisley024: Doesn't mean, Mata has higher probability of scoring than him. Correct |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:08am On Jan 30, 2020 |
ChristineC: someone was making similar contribution on USA Soccer some days back. it's like the board is trying to shed that desperation tag which agents have fed off on recently. they have my support if that really is the case, it will cost them a few players but it will ultimately give us better footings in future negotiations and eliminate laxity amongst players.
detail say Bruno will earn £70,000 a week. if that's true then the negotiating team probably struck a hard bargain, however we can't have Lingard and Jones earning higher wages from the bench. that will be ludicrous. a wage bill restructure perhaps, starting from terminating Alexis Sanchez. As for Lingard and Jones, wages depends on mostly how much a club desires to keep a player visavis other clubs transfer package for that player. I believe these guys were needed by some EPL teams in the past which made United fix a higher wage bill. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:41am On Jan 30, 2020 |
eph12: They forced Ed to behave That is not true. It has nothing to do with the negotiation process. At the end ED got a reduced price which he wanted. We are no longer desperate to sign a player at all cost. Our mumu has do |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:59pm On Jan 29, 2020*. Modified: 12:42am On Jan 30, 2020 |
nitrogen: E be like say na OGS no allow Mata play am o, cos he was looking at the bench, at some point he got angry. Mata for score sha! Mata missed from same position like two matches ago |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:26pm On Jan 29, 2020 |
nitrogen: Meanwhile, the James for Greenwood substitution was un-necessary. James just dey fall down anyhow. Greenwood has been out of the march since. And there were instances for counter attack and there was no one with force. I think he should have kept Lingard still |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:22pm On Jan 29, 2020 |
nitrogen: Nawa o, not a red card abeg! It was even the first yellow card the ref goofed. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:08pm On Jan 29, 2020 |
James for Greenwood now |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:28pm On Jan 29, 2020 |
eph12: Those guys that vandalized Ed's house are the real heroes How? |