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David Moyes says Manchester United did not try to sign Mesut Ozil in the summer because he was a player they "didn’t need”.

“We weren’t close to buying him but something was mooted a little bit before that,” Moyes told reporters. We didn’t need that position at the time. I didn’t even say it was an interest, it was put to us and it was just something at the time we didn’t need.

“We had Shinji Kagawa and Wayne Rooney and people of a similar ilk so it wasn’t quite what we required at that time. We were looking at different positions.” (Source: goal.com)

The way SAF had always beaten Arsenal is to clog the midfiled. I suspect Jones might be a third central midfield player tomorrow.

coogar: i have told you time & time again that you exhibit the traits of a child that lost his virginity to his mum. average passes per game does not tell which of the passes were from setplays & open plays. did your mum mix menstrual blood with your sorghum in your feeding bottle?



i am now certain your dad had a great influence on you - he was a lunatic! player A & player B had 90 mins under their belt. player A had 50 open play passes & 20 set play passes. player B had 60 open play passes & 2 set play passes - how would average passes per game tell which one used setplays to skew his stats?

elampiro, you are a walking coma - you would suck rooney's cock if he execrete through his pënis!



who's acted more like a child that popped out of the orifice of a silverback? you were räped by your father. you are the only nigerian that can stick an easter egg in & out of his anüs without breaking it.



move one inch & lightning would strike you & turn your mud-hut into ashes. go where? you dunno what you have gotten yourself into - i would not relent till you slide into depression & jump off the onitsha bridge!

This scallywag doesn't know simple 1+1. Look for another excuse, not this one you are giving that Rooney took 30 set pieces per match. You are really daft far more than I thought.

Rooney had 934 passes outside the final third while he had 829 in the final third. Everyone on earth knows Rooney doesn't take set plays outside the final third. Stop telling bunch of lies Mr chronic liar.

Also, look at this:
Rooney had 829 passes in the final 3rd while RVP had 561 there. In 2011/12 Young and Giggs were our major set play takers then Rooney and Nani took some. But RVP was the major set play taker for Arsenal. Also try taking a look at how many games RVP played vs Rooney number of games.

I gotta go.

I know the scallywag likes having the last word in every argument. He also work like a thief, typing at dead nights
.

coogar: you must be suffering from mental halitosis..
what has what chicha/welbeck play gotta do with rooney? rooney did not play in the hole in 11/12. he played further up the pitch just like he did in 09/10. this is why he recorded just 4 league assists in 2,800 mins - that's 1 assist every 8 league games.



you must have been räped by your uncle for saying this nonsense. why are you such a brainless beast of burden? the number of passes is highly dependent on the number of minutes. players who play more games generally play more passes.

rooney had 2,800 minutes & he was the chief setpiece taker in 11/12. common sense suggest he would touch the ball more than his peers who didn't not play as many minutes or take set plays(short corners, shirt freekicks, etc)

See this baboon doesn't know the meaning of average passes per game. We have had three different stats on this now. Many pages back showed number of passes, key passes vs minutes played among our strikers for 3 or 4 seasons. It showed same thing. Now we have another telling us about number of passes per match. Are you so daft? RVP had more games than Rooney in 2011/12, why is he not even in top 25 when Rooney is number 3. Also on passes from defensive position, Rooney was the only striker.
How do I even expect a product of bestiality like you to know the simple 1+1.

The negative aspect of having RVP in a team.



Arsenal FC: Comparing Gunners' Stats With, Without Robin Van Persie

By Michael Cummings on April 23, 2013

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For Arsenal fans, Manchester United's visit to the Emirates Stadium on Sunday will serve as a depressingly timely reminder of the distance that currently separates the two Premier League clubs. With Robin van Persie returning to his former club, Gooners will have a physical form to take on their frustrations.

A widely accepted view holds that Arsenal have lagged behind United in large part because of the lost productivity of van Persie, who leads the league with 24 goals this term for United. No doubt Arsenal have missed van Persie's goals—he scored a Premier League-best 30 last season—but a look at the stats suggests Arsenal's problems have deeper roots than the loss of a single striker.

Several factors have contributed to United's title-winning campaign, but it's impossible to ignore the extent to which van Persie, a Dutch international striker, played a part. And yet, as Arsenal prepare to hold an honor guard for the newly crowned champions, including former captain van Persie, United's own stats also suggest that RvP has been only one of many factors.



 

(Graphic via InstantPieChart.com)

Above is a pie chart illustrating the percentage of goals scored by various Arsenal players last season. Van Persie's 30 goals dominate the total of 74, with Theo Walcott the next-highest scorer at eight.

Midfielder Mikel Arteta and defender Thomas Vermaelen contributed six goals each, and Gervinho and Yossi Benayoun had four apiece. Various other players contributed one or two goals.

The next graphic illustrates Arsenal's total of 65 goals so far this season.



(Graphic via InstantPieChart.com)

There is both good news and bad here. The good news is that Arsenal's attack has become more varied this season, relying on more than one player. Midfielder Santi Cazorla leads with 12 goals, while Walcott and Olivier Giroud have 11 each. Lukas Podolski currently has nine.

With four matches remaining, Walcott's contribution has increased by three goals, a welcome (if modest) improvement. Arteta has remained steady with six goals and Gervinho has added one to his total of four last season.

Mike Hewitt/Getty Images

Olivier Giroud has scored 11 Premier League goals in his first season with Arsenal.

The bad news is that neither Giroud nor Podolski, the players signed to fill the void left by van Persie, have been unable to match van Persie's production, either individually or collectively. Together, they have scored 20 league goals, 10 fewer than van Persie's total of 30 last season—though they have four matches left.

But placing all the blame on Giroud and Podolski would be harsh. All players go through a settling-in phase at a new club, especially one in a new country, and both Podolski and Giroud have so far played decently in their first seasons in England.

The problem here seems to be one of foresight. As van Persie left the club last summer, Arsenal were unprepared to replace him without a drop in production from the striker position. In other words, when van Persie left, Arsenal did not have a player ready to fill his position immediately. Instead, a transition period was needed.

But as the next two graphics will show, Arsenal's overall production remains almost the same as last season. First is the table with four matches remaining in the 2011-12 Premier League season.

 



(via Statto.com)

At that point in the season, Arsenal had scored 67 goals and conceded 43 while collecting 64 points. Manchester United had scored 82 goals, conceded 28 and collected 82 points.

Next is the current table from the 2012-13 season. Both clubs currently have four matches left.

 



(via PremierLeague.com)

So far this season, Arsenal have scored 65 goals and conceded 35 for a total of 63 points. Despite the loss of van Persie, the Gunners have scored only two fewer goals at this point of the season than last. And despite long periods of negativity surrounding the club this season, Arsenal are only one point off their pace from 2011-12. The defense has improved by eight goals.

With van Persie in the squad, United have actually scored four fewer goals—78 compared to 82 last season at the same point—but collected two more points. The defense has allowed seven more goals.

Alex Livesey/Getty Images

So what are we to make of these numbers? Has van Persie's contribution meant little to United's successful title challenge?

Simply put, of course not. Van Persie's hat-trick clinched the title Monday night, and his 24 goals, as noted above, lead the league.

But he hasn't scored in every match, and he only recently ended a five-match scoring drought in the league. And even without him, Arsenal have scored almost as many goals, albeit with more help from midfielders.

Instead, the two teams' scoring outputs from last season to this one suggest that United's success—and Arsenal's relative lack of it—can be best explained as a product of the teams as whole entities.

In the offseason, United manager Sir Alex Ferguson strengthened his squad by signing van Persie for the attack and Shinji Kagawa for the attacking midfield. The central midfield remains something of an issue, but it was not enough of a problem to matter in the Premier League race.

Mike Hewitt/Getty Images

Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger, meanwhile, sold both van Persie and key midfielder Alex Song. In the former case, Wenger reportedly told Ferguson that van Persie is "better than you think" (per BBC Sport). Podolski and Giroud were signed to help refresh the attack, and they have seen limited success. Song was not replaced.

This is hardly a new development for Arsenal, following the departures of players like Cesc Fabregas and Samir Nasri in recent seasons. As David Hytner writes for The Guardian: "Cashing in on key personnel and failing to sign replacements that are better is nothing new and it has raised questions about the club's ambition, glass ceilings and transfer market policy."

One difference between the clubs, then, could be interpreted in terms of continuity, long-term team-building and even ambition. Van Persie's arrival at United was important, but it fit within Ferguson's framework of team-building.

Whether the policy is Wenger's or the board's is a topic for another article. It's clear, though, that such a policy has contributed to the continuation of Arsenal's status as a Premier League also-ran. With it in place, the Gunners have more or less performed to expectations, which is almost a compliment considering the damage done by the loss of a player of van Persie's importance.

 http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/1614543-arsenal-fc-comparing-gunners-stats-with-without-robin-van-persie

Oghos1: .

I'm not saying Rooney is NT a good player. I'm NT just that big a fan. His attitude stinks. For real.

And he is no where near as good as u make him to be. N NT as bad as coogar thinks also. Dis ought to have settled ur argument way back.

He is better than I make it look here.

Just imagine the number of strikers who have come and left him. Almost 10 years now, Rooney is a regular number 10 for almighty Man United.

Rooney: "Arsenal must be sick of the
sight of me after all my goals."
"It is the perfect fixture for us, and
I've said before, it will be
interesting to see whether they can
maintain that because over the last
six or seven years they have faded
off,"

dademola: Elampiro,one cant really say rooney is a no10. He is more of a 2nd striker who likes to drop deep so as to link up play. Stop comparing him with ozil

Rooney is a greater footballer than Ozil. Their pattern might be different but they do almost same work. Why can't Ozil score goals? Some other holes players are great scorers.

Secondly, Rooney is seen as a second striker? Okay! Why do people always compare him with Chicha and RVP who score from close rage inside the box ?

Rooney's dropping deep for fetch for himself will always cause a few errors as he moves about. In a United team with weak midfield that guy should be praised to high heavens. What he does requires lots of concentration. In Egland he does very little by staying around the 18, that's why his England stat is usually finer these days. Touch the ball a few times, avoid taking risks and wait to be fed.

dayokanu: You wan take style run away?

Elampiro which party dem dey do at 8pm on Friday

Abi you wan go organise boys to come defend you?

So you have never attended party on Friday night before?

Even if I decided to postpone the argument, its no ones headache. I can please anyone to displease myself. I can't please a fantasy world to suffer my real life.

Oghos1: That Rooney had so so n so number of passes proves nothing.


We all know how Rooney has been. Even if u play him infront of number 9, he will always drop deep. Always.

Na rvp mk am dae try change that he habit so.

So look for anoda proof. 1 million passes still doesn't prove anything

Did you not see that Chicha and Welbeck had 30+ games between them? And Berba had some games?

If you say Rooney played 9 and dropped deep to have as many number of passes as EPL top midfielders, then he ought to earn £300K/week or more.

dayokanu: Elampiro is watching and cant respond. Is he really intimidated?

Is he hiding the fighting ring in his boxer

Is he planning to fight?

Oh I heard he wants to run away to his mommy

Hmmm Elampiro wan fall hand Na Gustavo salary he stake on you

I was busy. Getting ready for a party. I need some sleep ahead.

coogar: you are still here?
bloody hell, you are notoriously foolish - you are about the only person with the brain of a snail. how can a player in the hole cop just 4 assists in 2,800 league minutes? 4 assists? when has rooney ever copped 4 assists in united? even in 10/11 season with limited appearances, he had 11 assists.




another idiotic stats that pay no homage to the number of games played by these players and how many of these assists are from setplays. but it's elampiro, the only brainless twerp that expects berbatov that joined the premier league in 2006 to match rooney that started playing in 2003.....it's elampiro the lab rëtard that expects a chief setpiece taker to have the same number of assists as berbatov who doesn't take setpieces.

1. Scallywag. Go bring up EPL assists stat and let's analyze all the number 10 players vis a vis assists.

2. Excuses, excuses and excuses.

This has since settled the argument that Rooney didn't play 9.

If a number 9 has so many passes from defensive area, plus being higher passers in these zones than midfielders, that number 9 must be an alien. Chikena.

How many number 10 have this?


EPL best Assists


131 Ryan Giggs 

95 Frank Lampard 

87 Steven Gerrard 

82 Wayne Rooney 

80 Thierry Henry 

71Francesc Fabregas 

58Robin van Persie 

55 Didier Drogba 

54 Gareth Barry 

53Danny Murphy 

53Ashley Young 

52Nolberto Solano 

52 James Milner 

49 Nani 

..And when you scroll down down before you will see

46 Dimitar Berbatov 

http://www.statbunker.com/alltimestats/AllTimeCompetitionMostAssists?comp_code=EPL

GustavoFring: Ordinary?

There is nothing ordinary about Coogar's clinical, methodical and sustained assault on elampiro's persona.

Elampiro's efforts are reminiscent of tackling Psycho Mantis in Metal Gear Solid. Each of his attempts to rally has been rebuffed with charts, facts, and a smack to the gob.

My man Elampiro needs to switch the pad or quit the game.

You sure say you see those charts and wetin them mean? He shot himself by ever producing a chart which shows Berba was doing 19 passes while Rooney did 50. Then Chicha did 14 and Welbeck 24. Yet someone said Rooney played 9.

Then if Rooney played 9 and scored about 34 goals while being the third highest passer in the final 3rd and one of the highest in overall midfield, Rooney must be a magician and an alien. The only forward player who made the top 10 passers in that category.

GustavoFring: Damn I really feel for elampiro.

Bros I share your sentiment that Rooney is not appreciated enough on this thread. As a Chelsea fan, I was wetting myself in anticipation of his imminent transfer to SB throughout the off season.

But with the way Coogar has been landing jab after jab on your head, maybe you should give this one a rest eh?

The guy has no point.

He brought up some stats which also finished him. How can any sensible human being say someone who had 50 passes per match played 9 while those who had 19 passes played 10. Does it make sense? How would Rooney had played 9 when chicha had 16 games cumulatively , and Welbeck had even higher games.

He is just someone who takes delight in comedy and wasting people's precious time with his idleness.

coogar: you are a disgrace to the 2 people that contributed your chromosomes. you must have been fathered by a bastärd. you came here to lie that rooney had one of the best passing accuracy(top 3 in the league in 11/12 season), had the most passes from the midfield, created the most chances in our team, etc.

i called you out on your lies & provided the stats sheet of every player in the squad. the sheet confirmed rooney wasn't in the top 3 of any passing statistics like you foolishly claimed & now you are running helter skelter. defend your claim about rooney's passing stat that makes him one of the best in the league, you troglodyte!!!



this is why you should have been aborted - if rooney was making 50 passes behind a striker, how come he was only able to cop 4 assists in 2,800 minutes? how can 50 passes behind a striker produce just 4 genuine goal assists in the league?



it shall not be well with you if you cannot produce what you saw somewhere that young & giggs had the highest number of setplays in the squad. you are a liar, a leper that should be quarantined. each time you tell us you saw something somewhere without producing any evidence, it means another lie has been fabricated.



liar liar, pants on fire!!!
rooney created less chances per game than nani, young, giggs & valencia. he copped 4 genuine assists in the hole while valencia had 13 assists. how a player you lied played in the hole could only produce 4 assists all season says a lot about you & rooney than the game itself.

This is how losers argue, calling people liars.

Now you are faced with the statistics and you are nailed.

Pataki: This elampiro must be feasting on cockroaches. How dare you even mention Ozil and Rooney in the same breath? Let alone to now state that Rooney is better than Ozil??

What an applesauce. Oh well, it is the scummies thread - all goes here!

Tell me what Ozil has achieved that Rooney has not achieved times two.

You are correct, Ozil is not qualified to be on same page with Rooney.

Are you a prophet?

chrisley024: And he assisted or scored how many?

Have u forgotten Nani in our 3-1 win against Chelsea beginning of last two seasons.

Valencia has assists and goals plenty. Even in the UCL big stages Valencia has assists. He has even started scoring.

GustavoFring: Ronaldo ran a train on Ashley too...

Much love for Mr Cole but this is everlasting:

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At least it wasn't in Chelsea colours

The difference between all these and what Valencia did to Cole was that in that Man United vs Chelsea, Valencia made Cole look like an amateur every time the ball went to the right wing. Valencia used every first touch to beat Cole. His control of balls in flight were manificient. When he touched he was lost. The few Cole manage to chase, a sharp reverse made him look like a school boy. In some other occasions Valencia will just stand and Cole will be dancing, them voom Valencia had lost going into the 18. It was very funny that day.

That was the day Chicha scored inside 2 mins from Giggs-Parks-China swift pass. The commentator shouted "what a magic goal, from the magic boy, for a magic start, in a season of Chicharito"

Sweet memories. It was a very tensed match but the early goal cooled my nerves.

nikkykay: Honestly i be woman and i no wan put mouth for this thread let alone coogar and elampiro 's argument but pls elampiro, dont ever compare Ozil with Rooney
What can fa? When we r taking abt world class player or starting XI, Ozil wil bench Rooney 10x
Even JM dat was chasing Rooney during the summer confessed that Ozil is the world best No 10
You are now here saying Rooney is better.

Woman talk. Lol

In football everyone is entitled to his or her opinion. You won't have the stamina to run a marathon of argument with me.

I encourage you to keep enjoying soccer as it interest you. Only one thing, if Ozil was so good why did Madrid release the supposed world best number 10 for another lesser no.10? The only thing Ozil has over Rooney is short passes and age.

elampiro: The nincompoop as predictably come up with useless excuses again. "May be RVP and Drogba had less crosses for than Rooney". From you experience of stat you don't know the average percentage of crosses to passes? What significant does 4.8 crosses per match has with 50 passes per match?

Rooney 32(2) matches appearance, 50 passes per match.

Chacharito 18(10) matches, 14 passes per match.

Welbeck 23/7. Matches, 24 passes per match.

Berbatov Matches 5/7 matches, 19 passes per match.


Can anyone see what I have seen. Look at the number of matches of Chicha and Welbeck. So now how many matches did Rooney play 9? 50 passes per match from the number 9 role while others make 14 or 19 passes from behind? What is the definition of a r3ard? Sheep brain.


*** Meanwhile, I saw somewhere that Nani & Young had the highest number of crosses while Valencia had the highest number of accurate passes. Young and Giggs were reported to have the highest number of set plays. Now who was that blockhead stating Rooney stat may have been boosted by his insignificant number of crosses? Whereas RVP was a major , if not sole, taker of set play for Arsenal that year. The mumu can't even understand a chart to know a high percentage of Rooney's passes from defensive area.




Rooney is a Man United god. He is even underpaid. He was making 50 passes per match, created high number of chances, and came out with 27 league goals. He deserves his pay. If he goes o City or Chelsea he will just relax for feeding while he hits a zillion goals.

Again:

2011/12
Chicharito 1476 minutes in the league = 16+ matches.

Welbeck 2018 minutes in the league= 22+ matches

Now what lies will the nincompoop come up with now?

Our wingers, Nani, Valencia, Young, Giggs and Park had plenty of minutes each so he cannot distort the facts with his luciferian lies.

The nincompoop as predictably come up with useless excuses again. "May be RVP and Drogba had less crosses than Rooney". Mr. Plus or minus. From your experience of stat you don't know the average percentage of crosses to passes? What significant does 4.8 crosses per match has with 50 passes per match?

Rooney 32(2) matches appearance, 50 passes per match.

Chacharito 18(10) matches, 14 passes per match.

Welbeck 23/7. Matches, 24 passes per match.

Berbatov Matches 5/7 matches, 19 passes per match.


Can anyone see what I have seen. Look at the number of matches of Chicha and Welbeck. So now how many matches did Rooney play 9? 50 passes per match from the number 9 role while others make 14 or 19 passes from behind? What is the definition of a r3ard? Sheep brain.


*** Meanwhile, I saw somewhere that Nani & Young had the highest number of crosses while Valencia had the highest number of accurate passes. Young and Giggs were reported to have the highest number of set plays. Now who was that blockhead stating Rooney stat may have been boosted by his insignificant number of crosses? Whereas RVP was a major , if not sole, taker of set play for Arsenal that year. The mumu can't even understand a chart to know a high percentage of Rooney's passes from defensive area.




Rooney is a Man United god. He is even underpaid. He was making 50 passes per match, created high number of chances, and came out with 27 league goals. He deserves his pay. If he goes o City or Chelsea he will just relax for feeding while he hits a zillion goals.

coogar: welbeck tracked back in 11/12. in 12/13, welbeck played mostly as a winger, you idiöt! welbeck was the workhorse in 11/12, while rooney just waited & scored goals.



you lie for a living - no one should ever take you serious.



withdrawn role?
elampiro - you & shame are planets apart. there's no decorum bone in that filthy body of yours. i reiterate, rooney played in the AM role less than 5 times.

where's the high passing accuracy you lied about? so which position was rooney playing in the graphics below? yes - it's number 10. elampiro, testicles certainly dwell in your brain.

Still trying to survive. So Man United did not play 442 again as yu have always claimed? Noted.

Now if you said Rooney played 9 and still did those things he did in the midfield and defensive area, he must be super human.

Lastly, let us see the formation in the 38 league games. Then we will see where Berba, Chicha and Welbeck played in the matches they featured.


You think you are smart. Small brain. Animal sense. Meat head.

coogar: see a spiritual blind man claiming someone else is blind. even from your chart, rooney had the least defensive passing - it means he was further forward than all the other players on that list. can you not read the chart?



rooney was a number 9 that season - he played about 4-5 games in the AM position that season. all the other games had rooney furthest forward in the team - but you are a lunatic, you see what isn't there?



rooney takes short & long setplays - doesn't that explain itself?



nah - you are the rëtard that should be extinguished before you infect the populace with your acute stupidity. when your creator was distributing intelligence - you traded yours for a hot plate of nkwobi.

You are really now struggling. Rooney doesn't take crosses from defensive position. He has 370+ passes from defensive position. That's more than 10 passes from defense per match, more than half of what Berba do in a match. What does that tell you. Did it appear he played 9?

Secondly stat has showed that Rooney only has 10% or less of his passes from set play. So even if you discard it makes no difference.

Thirdly, the chart didn't specify or indicate what it meant by a cross. Is it referring to a cross from open play which connected a team mate or a set play?

There are many strikers (Drogba, RVP, etc) who take set play, why did they not make the list? Because there business was purely 9- top 9 striker.

You are looking for ways to survive.

Kpele. Bye bye till morning.

coogar: what a fool this dude is.....
hernandez that played exactly half of the league minutes rooney copped was the number 9? and welbeck too? welbeck that tracked back & recovered plenty of possession was the lead striker? elampiro - you are a disgrace. in one fell swoop, i exposed your lies about rooney's passing accuracy, key passes & average number of passes.



tell your wife to apply hot water to the bruises & wounds i have dealt you tonight. you were decapitated - if this was a boxing match, you would be administered CPR by now.

R3tarding, Welbeck tracked back which season. Hope your delusioned brain is not thinking 2012/13?

Berba, Chachia and Welbeck were our strikers in 2011/12 season. Rooney was in the hole. That was why he was making 50 passes per game and a number of them from defensive position. Check your stat animal.

From that withdrawn role he scored over 30 goals that season.





If you like remain in your darkness. I have enlightened you enough for free.

Na u know.

coogar: a billy-goat must have urinated on your head when you were teething. how exactly does FTP(final third passing) equate to midfield passes? your intelligence quotient is so shallow, a worm won't drown in it!

You blindness is too thick. If you accepted you were blind, at least one could heal you. Now that you are blind but you claim you see, how terrible is your blindness.

The chart and its analysis was about players who got passes in the midfield area above 1, 000 or so, then what they did with it. The stats clearly shows Rooney was not in the number 9 as you claimed.

Also, your chart already showed he got 50 passes per match while Berba got 19. So how did Rooney strike?

If you claimed that someone who played 9 was touching the ball 3 times more Berba who played 10, you must be the greatest re.tard who ever walk planet earth, animals inclusive. Or may be Berba was a corpse in the no. 10 position.

coogar: this fool has no shame nor dignity to even see others are laughing at him.



rooney - 2,830 league minutes in 11/12
berba - 521 league minutes in 11/12.

so in about 2,300+ league minutes that berbatov didn't play at all, i guess it was his ghost that played 9 with rooney playing 10. I have said it again & again you should have been aborted. your mind is a terrible to waste.



stop plumbing the depths of idiocy....
berbatov started only 5 league games in comparison to rooney's 32 league starts. the few times berbatov played, he was the main striker & that's why he got 7 league goals in 5 starts he had. in berba's absence, rooney was the dominant striker.

yet again, you have been exposed as a charlatan with fluff in his cranial cavity. you are a disgrace to all DNA-carrying earthlings......the memory in your brain must be synonymous to that of a tadpole. there's no way you can convince me you had any secondary school education & if you did - then shame on every individual that had anything to do with your mental development.



christ almighty!
what was berba doing? berbatov was busy scoring goals. he scored a goal every 74 league mins while it took rooney 105 mins to register a league goal.

only a disillusioned, demented, bi-polar donkey-stubborn and priggish halfwit would expect a striker with 521 league minutes to outscore a striker that copped 2800+ league minutes. elampiro, find a strong rope & a beam to tie it to and end this misery you call a life once & for all.




of course - since you are hopeless deluded, it's expected a cretin like yourself would think berba with 74 mins/goal was less effective than rooney 105 mins/goal.

i am 100% certain a pubic louse would have made more use of the human brain in your head. you are just wasting a good organ millions of lower animals would have used to better the environment.

When will your foo.lisness end and your delusion too? So Berba doesn't play 9 Rooney must be one who played? Rooney was a hole man while Berba, Chicha and Welbeck played 9. Shame Berba was confined to the bench by almost teenagers.
However, Rooney won in all the stats. Midfield, creativity, goals etc.

I am done with you tonight.

Look at this man.

You were calling me a liar. See Rooney passes from the midfield. Yet he scored so many goals.

Any United fan who doesn't respect Rooney is an ingrate. The guy is working alone.

coogar: shut up your mouth....
can a player with 10 appearances make more passes than the one with 34 appearances? the true stat would be the total number of passes made by each player divided by the number of appearances they made. rooney came 7th in that category!

just to add another nail to your coffin, this is the stats for key passes(chance created) per game in 2011/12. rooney came 5th yet again. all united's wingers created more chances than the white pele.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/1401645_image_jpg0d5b1c4c7f720f698946c7f6ab08f687



you are a disgraceful feral animal.
where is the opta cut off stat that you keep talking about? you want us to take your word for it after telling us you saw roy keane in the champions league final in 1999?



do you want me to show what the strikers in the other clubs managed that season? do you want this torture to stop or are you a masochist who gets his kicks from getting destroyed by raw facts? you are a bumbling oaf - i wish you had been aborted.

Ajigbijigbijigbi.

Your two charts have already disgraced you before we even elaborate.

Kokobioko

1. Rooney had 49 passes per match and Berba only 19 per match. I guess you remember our argument. Now who played 9?


If Rooney played 9, how was he getting 49 passes per match? Then Berba played in the hole and was getting only 19 passes.



You are a corpulent fool. A cacafuego animal who knows nothing. So what exactly was Berba doing that season when Rooney was scoring over 30 goals, providing assists, creating clear cut chances and having 50 passes from the midfield?

Is it clear now it was Berba who played no. 9 (most ineffectively)

Infact no need sef. Go with your confusion.