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dademola: weekend don reach finish! U just attempt ur usual pro-rooney crusade on this thread and see wot happens next

His new rivalry with tapout1 won't allow him see me. I see an Iraq vs Iran war. I suggest Ogbeche opens a thread for that, it looks like some of you guys want to be spectators of that war.

SailorXY: The owner of this blog is a well-known Rooney azzlicker like some peeps here
[url]thepeoplesperson.com/wayne-rooney-proves-manchester-united-fans-nearly-made-a-big-mistake/[/url]
I no need any further debate sha
He got some wonderful replies tho...

The last comment looks like Coogar's wording style. lol

But you wicked o. You will go any length to push Kagawa to 10, even if it was to kidnap Moyes. So, there were no comments infavour of Rooney?

dademola: ah!! It left me speechless!! Baba.. Na elampiro i dey pity now. #if u knw wot i mean#

What do you mean na?

Coogar will transfer aggression to elampiro

Everton V Liverpool 12:45
Arsenal V Southampton 15:00
West Ham V Chelsea 17:30

Sunday 24th November 2013
Man City V Tottenham 13:30
Cardiff V Man Utd 16:00

If we can win again, we will get better on the table.

dademola: bros, like someone pointed out earlier, dayokanu is all out to use u dey catch trips! Stop writing all these long stories about pool- he obviously isnt interested!!

I be no worry about dayokanu until he con dey do like say he be ninja.

SailorXY: It may be renamed spamgoat then

it looks like mod has enabled me again. Thx.

Spamgoat hid my long post. It was only a 2nd part of my series with a final part to be written tonight. Now I have. To quit the idea. I can't repeat all that I have written before, it was something I did from a tight work schedule.

Spamboat is a goat.

*** Pools Compilers: These are publishers of system papers, forecast aiding papers, sports papers as it relates to pools and football in general, and sometimes all sports current news and activities. These papers come in different styles depending on the genuineness of its publisher as it relates to having secretes about fixed draws, football/sports analytical skills, team matching skills, and depending on tastes and interest of the publishers. For a pool office to attract customers (stakers), its number one priority is to have varieties of forecast papers. But there are some papers published by some experts (aka Mr fix it) who are believed to have the secrete of draws (fixed matches). These papers from such publishers are considered a MUST have in any office. 1. 'Soccer Research' 2. 'Capital' 3. Willy Ehimare Obinyan papers (about 5 of them).

Some of these papers dedicate one or two or more pages to English and European football, sometimes the world cup/other cups and others sports. Some have a page where all the English leagues and none leagues weekly standing are displayed, also the Scottish league and European major leagues first divisions.

The genuine compilers having knowledge of the draws are said to be banned under oath and ethics from pools staking and any wealth thereof, except from sales of their forecast papers.

Their are stakers who are middle class income earners who buy the major papers every week to save themselves the stress of going to a pool house.


***Pool Promoters: These are people who set up companies which venture into the risk of paying winners from pools betting. They are licensed by the government when they meet their minimum requirement. They pocket lost bets and pay the winning bets. Normally the losers far outstrip the winners. A new promoter has to pray no one wins a heavy jackpot in their infant stage of their entry into the business. An example of a pool promoter is senator Patrick Osakwe- Flash Pools ltd. Pools promoter are usually very wealthy and are multi millionaires.

Pools promoters and pools agents use the BBC sports as their number one communication radio station. Infact BBC sports is their baby. My dad was a principal agent for a long time before venturing into promotion, but he entered promotion too late when the interest was waning due to few people been able to find systems for draws. The patronage dropped drastically. Many of the promoters quickly were diversifying their businesses.

Every Saturday, 3pm to 6pm either or collectively, My dad, my uncle, my elder brother, myself would listen to BBC live commentary of the star match. As the star match is updates from other venues are announced. Finally, there was a particular anchor (I have forgotten his name) who was entrusted with giving classified results for pools purpose at the end of the matches. There are 50+ matches in the coupon selected from each division in England and Scotland. The anchor will call the results and then the numbers which ended in draws for pools purposes.

One also has to monitor some certain BBC sports channels on week days for any postponed, void, late kick off matches and inform customers not to waste their money staking on them. Sometimes late kick off are accepted.
True, you get a better football commentary from BBC radio than the TV matches.

The pools promoters and some agents also had this big cable dish where matches were monitored. Some stakers were also following these radio and TV football pool monitoring.

*** Stakers: People who stake in pool with the hope of hitting a jackpot (I don hammer). They study hard the fixtures to try and unravel any system. Some are interested in finding a system in the official coupon fixture, some are used to foreign forecast papers, some the local papers, some are apostles of certain publishers, etc.

An ardent pool staker should be able to tell which teams are in every division of the English league, Scottish league, Australia league( usually used for pool in summer) and perhaps other leagues. They know the positions and strength of these teams in their respective divisions and non league. They know which teams are relegation bound in every division.

Pool agents: There are principal agents and agents. Both are pool office owners. Principal agents are those who the promoters have so much empowered to represent them in a particular area. They have the financial capacity to open a massive office, buy all the equipments, buy virtually all the forecast papers and generate huge patronage from stakers. They have agents working under them in their local government.

Virtually all the principal agents and agents also stake in pool to try and win jackpot. My dad was a principal agent and I ran the biz closely with him. I was a forecaster and a staker. If you are a good forecaster, you can also attract customers.

dayokanu: elampiro learning european football

https://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/66715000/jpg/_66715091_66715090.jpg

I knew this was all you were referring to. No research on the web would have given you even 20% knowledge about it.

The image you uploaded now is the final betting sheet used by the pool stakers. It is called a coupon. This is what you can probably see at pool offices patronized by road side stakers. These sheets which make up systematically arranged weekly fixtures are produced weekly by the British football pool authority in association with the FA. It is thn reprinted by pools compilers and pools promoters worldwide to be distributed to their agents who finally made it available to the focasters and betters. After the Saturday matches, the unused fixture sheets are useless and these is what you see sold to bole and groundnut sellers. When you mentioned this bole and grounddnut, I took it as one of those jokes we are having to keep ourselves laughing until weekend. But on a second thought, I realized you had the feeling you were pummeling me.

Now, there are many things you need to know about football pool.



1. Pool stakers.
2. Pool promoters.
3. Pool compilers/promoters.
4. Pool matches and league used
5. Pools promoters/compilers and sometimes agents use of BBC to monitor pool which will ultimately expose you to details of English football, Scottish football, Australia football, Central Europe football and world football.
6. Football pool is a billion pounds industry.
7. The industry is believed to be secretly headed by the queen and English FA.
8. The believe in the industry is that some football matches are fixed by the FA for the exclusive preserve of the billion pounds pool industry. These fixed draws are alleged to be worked into keys which forecaster will have to study hard for days, weeks, or even years to unlock in order to stake with the intention of hitting a life fortune. Some of these keys are believed to be revealed under to oath to pools compilers who used such to publish their football weekly forecast papers like the 'Soccer Research' 'Bob Morton' 'Capital' or by Niegrian veteran compiler Ehi Obinyan with is several expensive weekly forecast papers such as 'Murphy' and several others I have forgotten their names because I left the industry since late '90s.
9. It is believed that the introduction of Premier League put a total stop to the fixing of matches in 'division 1' and limited match fixing in division 2. This was said to be when the FA finally bowed to criticism that the league was losing it and needed to attract more foreign interest.

Now when you hear of football pool, know that it was a gigantic industry. It was a big employer of labour in the past while creating wealth particularly for secrete people behind it, then the compilers, then the promoters and finally the lucky stakers. Many unlucky stakers, in the majority among stakers, were confined to permanent poverty with the perpetual hope that they will one day unlock a secrete code to getting at least 3 (3 over 3) fixed draw matches either goaless draws or score draws. Score draw gave far higher jackpot.

Now how does this relate to knowing about football or football analysis?

Pool compilers, promoters, agents and even stakers develop different knowledge about football based on their area and level of involvement in the pool industry. We are going to leave out the FA and the Curia (the panel believed to be fixing matches) because by default they are football themselves.

When I return again, I will find time to write a small piece on compilers/publishers, promoters and agents and finally the stakers.

dayokanu: Lol. The person who gets football knowledge from reading pool sheet

Everyone here has an idea of what Pool is abi no be all those bristol vs Dundee United pool?

2%

I mean 2 over 100.

'Pool sheet', 'pool sheet'. You must explain this thing today.

dayokanu: No need for long drawn argument, First thing you need to do is to first learn about European football

Dont just argue for the sake of speaking or typing something like you claimed you do

It is you who lack knowledgeof European football. Your attempt to lure me Bundesliga (Friday night) boring football will never work.

You have said a lot about pool and people laughed ignorantly. Now tell me everything you know about football pool". You thought you were making sense 'cos I decided to act indifferently to your obvious ignorance.

Katsumoto: Free the guy now.

You are such a bully.

Because of your comment, I have decided to be serious in my argument with him. I was just joking since. Now I am ready for him for a long drawn out war till match day. I get to put on my laptop tomorrow.

dayokanu: Is pool not what those women use to sell groundnuts and Boli?

You watch live matches of Rooney alone. I watch every weekend top matches from Spain, Germany, Italy and England,

Before the internet I was a subscriber to World Soccer and football Italia magazine

Most ppl who would call themselves fans dont just sit watching for Rooney all 90 mins every weekend

1. You are now turning to a cartoon. You know not even 2% of what pool is. This alone nullified every other thing you said.

2. Your claim that you watch top matches in the major league in Spain shows you are below me in number of matches watched weekly. I watch far more than major matches.

3. You said "Before the internet I was a subscriber to World Soccer and football Italia magazine." Someone who is detailed in pool compilation will be a zillion miles ahead of you.

dayokanu: Between now and weekend try to watch games and not just read Pool sheets for analysis.

Also Rooney isnt the only player on the internet. Watch others to enable you have a varied opinion about how others play

Do you really know what football pool is about?

Secondly, I am not a fan of youtube, video clips, etc. I doubt if you watch as many live matches as I do. Although I sometimes repeat some earlier missed matches on DSTV depending on my vacant/idle time.

GustavoFring: Its all jokes though....

Starboard is a cool dude...

But una don too rip on elampiro though...

Allow them to have their time if that is what they think is happening. I am not in the mood for any argument now. By weekend, I will put on my amour and ready to battle again.

@starboard which fact did I twist?

dayokanu: So you enjoy watching men shake their yansh in "So you think you can dance"

N wao! For for talk say you no know the shows na. So you think you can dance, american idol and Xfactor.

dayokanu: Are you kidding me? Which straight guy would sit and watch "So you think you can dance" or "America got talents" what else I am sure you like wedding shows, Real housewives of Atlanta, Oprah Winfrey show

Now your bromance with coogar is starting to make more sense

U be villager.

coogar: abeg, forget that nonsense chart bandied by marca to poke barca's eyeball that messi is slower than cristiano. on that chart, bale was the fastest. some weeks before the chart was released, kaboul beat lennon, kyle walker & gareth bale in a 100m sprint. ea sports also told us chris smalling is the fastest united player since 2011. so forget those stats you are bandying.



you can make your stature to be who you want to be. rooney is lazy in the gym. he hates gym work. he eats junk food, he drinks & smokes.....



sex doesn't make a man fat. what's the difference between rooney fücking grandmothers in liverpool and ronaldo sleeping with exquisite models. we are talking about rooney's behaviour that undermines his fitness & you are bringing sex to it. sex is an exercise, drinking lager beer isn't.

The way you defending sex seriously!!! E be like say na dat one be your own. Abi na you even mentor Starboard?


On the rest things, everyone has its opinion. In my opinion Rooney is one of the fastest footballers, but he often doesn't make it count unlike Ronaldo, Messi, who eat speed like food and makes zillion of goals from it. But given the opportunity, Rooney makes use of his speed when he gets a clever pass. H also set up swift counters for United with his speed.

dayokanu: You dont know La Liga, You dont know Bundesliga you dont know Serie A, even the EPL it wasnt until DSTV days and Rooney times before you started watching yet you make too much noise

I am sure all you know about football can be written on a grain of rice.

I don hear. You don win.

In 15 years time, it will remain the same. I am never going to watch Bundesliga, Seria A and Laliga as much as I watch EPL. I watch a bit much of Laliga.

I have many areas in life I have interest. Even on TV, I have lots of other programs of interest. I am a lover of reality shows/competition like Xfactor, American gots talent, idols, so you think you can dance, etc. For instance, if there is a clash between Xfactor and a match let's say Man C vs Villa. I will watch the Xfactor USA.

When I go to internet, my interest first is religion websites. When I am through before I will check facebook, nairaland and yahoo news, etc.

coogar: of course, anderson is fat - his weight is mainly fat.
and you call yourself a doctor but you have no clue no athlete has more than 5-10% fat of their body weight?



well - it was that error gustavofring called out when you were trying to bully elampiro. don't get me wrong, elampiro is a twit but it shouldn't be you bullying him when there's an empirical evidence you are not better off.



rooney was only 18 ten years ago - that renders your analysis null & void. with the amount of money rooney sucks out from the club, the least requirement is to burn himself & look ripped but the physios all said rooney hates the gym.



rooney is not even in the top 100 in the premier league. one of the fastest? rooney is younger than ronaldo & he's slower. that should end the argument. even anderson is pacier than rooney.



so akinfenwa was born to look the way he is or walcott was born to burn pace? if walcott drinks 5 bottles of heineken per day, double cheeseburger & all sorts of fattening foods per day like rooney does, would he be as quicker?

it's all about discipline - ronaldo neither smokes nor takes alcohol. all his physios acknowledge he loves the gym & he trains harder than any football player. this is why he's the best in the world. he could have allowed himself to be sloppy like rooney.

I am not out for this argument. But Rooney in speed, Rooney is only behind Valencia, Lennon, Walcott , Townsend in the EPL. He is among the fastest in the world. His out pacing of defenders to through balls is one fact confirming this.

Secondly, if you watch Rooney as 10, you will see this has been his stature. Giggs for instance has ever been a lekpa.

*** what Ronaldo lack or deny himself in smoking and drinking, he made up in women. Kim Kardashian and Maria Sharapova are among the over 36 women (most of them older celeb women) he dated within 6 years.

Lol

@dayokanu, I don't argue about the aspect of the game I am limited. I hardly argue about Bundesliga except when it's the big 1 or 2 teams. I won't argue Seria A so deeply. I also did not argue about this their so called yeye BMI.

Any argument I involve myself I must have watched the match or an area I have been equipped over the years.

dayokanu: Then you should stay where your football knowledge puts you not as an elite but as a below par one who gets his stats from pool sheet, Doesnt watch games, Just argue to just say something

Plenty words are no substitutes for facts

Plenty words? If I wanted to argue that match with you, I will still be on it now. Where did I use plenty words?

You started the joke by saying Germany used team C players.



Have you ever seen me arguing Bundesliga? It's an uninteresting league. I can't bore myself with unnecessary details.

1. A better way to determine who is fat between Anderson and Rooney or whether both, is to go to their weight and stature history. How was Rooney in 10 years back? What was his weight and frame? Then 5 years back and 2 or 3 years back. Same for Anderson.

2. Rooney is still one of the fastest footballers in speed and pace, so how can he be fat? He has a high work rate and last 90 minutes well. On the other hand, Anderson work rate has dropped drastically at his young age and he can't play '90 mins.

3. Rooney can never have the looks of CR7 or Torres. He was not born to look that way, couple with the report that he was a boxer in his teenage years.

dayokanu: This is just going to buttress the fact that you know nothing about European football and dont watch games just read online

How would you know when you only watch Man Utd and focus on Rooney. The first step is to watch the games and know at least the stars of the opposition

By the way how did Jin Pere @apin (not sure of the names spellings) become one of your heroes?

BTW go and learn about this pose at Wembley

https://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Pix/pictures/2008/06/06/SBOtterill.jpg

I am okay with the football knowledge I have. Football is just an entertainment to me. I am not a sports writer or TV analyst. If you, Coogar, Starboard and anyone else want to claim superiority of knowledge, it's ok. How many matches can one even watch a weekend? It looks to me it's you guys who spend time reading papers, watching clips and studying opta stat.

AntiRooney Coogar and Starboard, you guys are really funny.

I knew the point I was trying to make with the England shot on post. Dayokanu knew people didn't watch the friendly match due to the qualifying matches payed simultaneously. The match and he was exaggerating his comments by saying Germany were wasting chances and he never made it look like England even played. Unfortunately stat made it look like England did not even make a good attempt. So I had to find a way to let people know that England could also have scored. I wasn't really serious with my response to dayokanu last nite on the friendly match. Even my listing of Carrick, Baines, as having missed the match was just to say something, but not to argue seriously. He was even accusing me of running away.

dayokanu: This is what we are all saying you were clueless about European football until the days of DSTV.

You need to now calm down and learn the rudiments not just jump into arguments

Copy and paste wont reveal everything to you in football

Copy and paste would never relive great moments like Nayim lobbing David Seaman in the Cup winners cup final in 1995,
It would never reveal to you the lightning fast counter attack of Hector Cupers valencia
It would never relive the joy of watching Valeron and Diego tristan at Deportivo
It would never duplicate the exhilarating CL semi final game between Dortmund and Man Utd in 1997 where the Iron curtain defence reigned
It would never give you the joy of watching George Weah and Ginola at PSG molesting every defence in 1995
Nor the fleet footed Marco Simeone of AC Milan with his white boot running the Reiziger almost ragged or the battle of Del Piero vs Bogarde in 1996

Nor the greatest hat trick of all time scored by Rivaldo to qualify Barcelona for the CL, Nor the Free kick hat trick by Sinisa Mihajlovic, Or Marcelo Salas taking a dump on the Man Utd defence in the 1999 Supercup, Nor Lars Ricken scoring with his first touch in the CL final of 97 nor The cock pose of Andy Moller, Poborsky lobbing the Portuguese keeper, Davor Suker rounding Andreas Kopke and in Euro 96, and the Croat getting their revenge 2yrs later

How do I want to start explaining the chemistry between Gheoghe hagi, Iliev Dumitrescu and Florin Radicioui or the combination of Martin Dahlin, Thomas brolin and Kenneth Andersen you wont even read about the combination of Stiochkov, Kasimir balakov, Emile Kostadinov backed by Iordan "apari" letchkov all in US 94

[size=14pt]Walahi football is sweet when you watch it not when you just read about it copy and paste. Elampiro enroll for lessons first not this pool result[/size]

Nothing is as good as watching a good game of football

It is clear you have watched plenty of youtube or you have watched these videos again recently or you are a man of 45 years of age to have been so passionate about knowing every player name in 1992 and being able to easily recall now.

Till now, when Man United play big teams as Porto, Monaco, Leverkusen I will not be able to mention more than half of the players names the next day. I will just know we played against 11 men and I saw some of their good players which I could recall their names.

My interest in football is limited to EPL, UCL big matches. Some Laliga matches particularly Madrid and Barca fixtures. Seria top fixtures, sometimes when Bayern and Dortmund meet. Very scantily other leagues. Then the FIFA, CAF, COPA, EURO cups, etc. When Man United beat Leverkusen 4-1, ask me about who scored the one for Leverkusen, I don't know and I don't intend to know. It adds nothing to me. The ones I knew are already enough stress.

So if you like shout from the roof top EPL fans know nothing about other leagues or how elampiro can't remember some things in early '90s, I don't care and won't ever care. I know one of our heroes then was a certain Jin Pere @apin (not sure of the names spellings), but ask me questions about him now, I have since forgotten.
I have a relative who watches football like the way a bank manager is glued to his computer. He watches even South Africa league and knows details. May be in this your new line of argument, I can call him to come and face you. Lol

All those details you want me to know, may be when I become a football analyst for Super Sports, I can begin to make effort to be so detail. If I am not so detail now is memorizing names of players, you could imagine how it was for me in 20 years back when I was preparing to write WAEC, JAMB, etc.

dayokanu: Germany team B tried?

A team that had no Neuer, Lahm, Schweinisteiger, Ozil, Muller, Khedira, Gomez nor Klose

So now tell us if a German team B can molest England like this how can any English player now make the german team

[size=18pt]1-0 to the Arsenal! Per Mertesacker heads Germany B to 1-0 win at Wembley[/size]

http://www.101greatgoals.com/goals/internationals/england-v-germany-team-sheets/

The last time England beat Germany in Wembley is 1975.

England had no Cahil, Baines, Carrick, Welbeck, Walcott, Cherberlain. That Lallana is worse than Brown Ideye is goal scoring. I saw him against Chile wasting clear chances.

dayokanu: Running away as usual abi you dey go find stats from Pool sheet or website to copy and paste from?

What do you know about pool?

I thought you said friendly matches are not to be taken seriously? Now you won and you want to brag. England is trying to find a working formation, the friendly match was not to be won. Just to try things out. Lol

I don sleep o.