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SailorXY: Unless you are trying to make us believe he hasn't missed similar chances

Chcha miss was from 2 or 3 yards. I can't remember Rooney ever missing such. RVP missed from 1 yard against Leverkusen.

Normally, it can happen to anyone. But you guys are the ones making issues at of everything. Had it been Rooney who missed a UCL penalty or those chances and we got a draw at the end, it would have been a thing of reference every day.

coogar: another disgraceful lie exposed.....

rooney was 26th in passing accuracy out of the 31 man utd players that kicked a ball in 11/12. elampiro, how does it feel to be exposed time & time again as the biggest liar in this section?


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See this compound fool. Give us the number of passes made. The opta chart that was argued here had a threshold for number of passes from the midfield before anyone could qualify into the rating.

What is our business with defenders and those who made few passes that season. We are talking of high passers in the tight area. Rooney was among the best in the EPL.

How do I even expect you to know when you are a product of bestiality and a old nincompoop. Goat, pig, stray dog.

coogar: you are a semi-illiterate.....



can you tell us what you mean by rooney wasn't available in the home games when it's well-documented that rooney started against bayern!

You are a compound illiterate. Look at the build up of that write up. He was injured and was not fit to play. He was only managed into the game to encourage the other lads.

I was only using that as an example why he did not score more goals in the UCL.

RuuDie: Thats the thing with Nani... we can pick out individual instances where he has stood out magnificently but usually those instances are eons apart. Valencia never "stands out", almost never does anything "fantastic"; but he is always there, contributing his "widows mite" game after game.

Valencia also has many matches he gave magnificent performance. All his matches before his broken leg were absolutely magnificent. When he returned he continued from there but anther bad injury dazed him.

Only two players have ever rubbished Ashley Cole. Ronaldinho and Valencia. Ronaldinho at the world cup, Valencia at Old Trafford against Chelsea in 2010/11 season. That was a league deciding match and every ball Valencia touched was excellent. Ashley Young was looking for him all night.

Even some UCL games too.

Katsumoto: Did someone really state that Ozil is inferior to Rooney?

So you were one of those brainwashed? What has Ozil achieved in football? Or what has he helped his team to achieve. Then we can compare with Rooney's record.

coogar: i called you a liar cos you are lying - you think i won't call you out if you decide to blatantly lie to distort the facts?



you are embarrassing yourself.
in 09/10, rooney assisted a total of 5 league goals all season. in 2011/12, he assisted a miserable 7 goals.....berbatov assisted 6 league goals despite playing 700 league mins less than rooney. this is even discounting the fact that dimitar doesn't take setplays....

so that's another of your lie exposed....
when rooney had a striker ahead of him, he got 10 league assists(12/13), 11 assists(10/11), 13 assists(07/08), 12(06/07). even a blind man can see the difference in output?



shut up your mouth & quit the sentiments
drogba scored 29 goals & copped 13 assists in 09/10, did he share himself into two or drogba played in the hole for chelsea? do you not have any decorum when you lie?

You are confused and deluded. We have argued this before and your chart showed Rooney had more assists and clear cut chances created than Berba.

Also, another chart showed only Carrick and Scholes were with Rooney in midfield pass accuracy. Even long pass were included. The chart showed Rooney had one of the EPL highest passes from the midfield in 2011/12.

You are a chronic liar.

Coogar doo you understand English or you take delight in twisting my words?

Where did I say Rooney was rested against Bayern? You don't know the meaning of injury? Rooney was our best man in Munich. He picked an injury there and SAF had to manage him at Old Trafford. Bayern only came into the match the moment Rooney's injury aggravated and he stared limping.

coogar: ozil assists goals - the highest in europe in the last 3 seasons.



he was a sub in many of those games.....but his stats still make him the highest goal maker in europe.



skewed stats!!!



liar liar......
rooney was the only player SAF blamed for the loss. i have posted articles highlighting this bit. he failed to deal with busquets - rene also mentioned it in his interview that rooney's failure to stick to the managers instructions caused arguments @ halftime & the team didn't make the best use of their time to plan ahead of the 2nd half.



propelled who to the final? what about giggs(assisting 3 goals) or hernandez & park that scored in the 2nd leg where rooney was anonymous throughout?



you are a pathological liar - rooney played as the centre forward in 09/10. berbatov operated behind rooney throughout that season. it was only when rooney got injured in march that berbatov started as the lead striker.

you mean rooney got 34 goals playing in the hole that season? elampiro - you should win a nobel-prize for lying.



anonymous in 07/08 & 08/09 & he was only part of the trio that got us to the final in 10/11.



ronaldo & park were the star men against roma, rooney was anonymous. against bayern? rooney started both legs against bayern when nani/valencia outshone him. he was quickly removed as he stunk the whole joint. when did SAF rest rooney against bayern? must you lie?



abeg, talk another thing - rooney & berbatov aren't mates!!!

I am done with the argument. When you run out f ideas you resort to insults and calling people names and liars.

If Rooney operated as the lead striker in 2009/10 and 2011/12, how come stat showed he was among the best creators those seasons? Stat also showed he was one of the highest passers from midfield. His pass accuracy from midfield and number of passes were one of the highest in the EPL those seasons. So he shared himself into two?

coogar: ozil plays in the hole, goalscoring is the least of his problems - creating goals is his number one priority. 5 goals + 21 assists in 45 appearances is decent for a player that has never played as a centre forward.

rooney has played mostly as a centre forward in europe....his stats are skewed. despite that, he has a miserable 29 goals in 75 appearances. he's a disgrace - to put this in perspective, lampard has 23 goals & gerrard has 19.



5 goals were scored in that game by both teams - rooney took part in none of the goals either by scoring or assisting. what a national disgrace of a player.



giggs & carrick were the best players on the night. giggs assisted all the goals we scored against chelsea in both legs. elampiro - lying is a sin.



rooney was the lone striker throughout 2009/10. he played as a striker in several games in the seasons before then & even after.



in a united side that played in 3 champions league finals in 4 seasons, rooney's goal stat was abysmal. he's useless for his club & worthless for his country.

1. 5 goals in 45 appearances? Okokobioko.

2. Ozil 21 assists in 45 matches for someone who plays in the hole all the time. That's helping to get only one goal in 2 matches. And we want a hole player? It means if we play in the knockout, this hole man is only capable of assisting 1 goal in a two legged tie. Yet he had CR7 and Benzema in front of him and Alonso and Di Maria behind him. Now I knew why Madrid failed in Europe.

3. Stats were skewed. Excuses as usual.

4. Rooney was our best player against Barca. Dats all. Carrick was our failure link in the final against Barca.
Rooney scored from the hole against Chelsea and got us an all important away win. From the hole he propelled us to the final. Something Ozil is yet to do.

5. 2009/10. We had Berbatov as our number 9. He failed to live up.

6. Rooney was a key reason why we got to 3 UCL finals in 4 years. He scored against virtually all the big opponents. SAF was always resting him in small games. Something Moyes has not had the luxury to do. Rooney was involved in the demolition of Roma, but SAF rested him in the return leg at Old Trafford. He was involved in away ties against Bayern and Schalke but was not available in the home games due to injury and SAF decision to rest him. These are just knockout games, but the resting is usually more in group games.

Now tell me how many goals Berba scored that period?

coogar: his team is currently 8 points ahead of rooney's team. his team räped rooney's team in the last world cup where a young ozil destroyed rooney's international credibility in the biggest stage.

do you want more?



he scored a goal but stunk the whole joint for the remaining parts of the game. we would have played better without him. that he scored in that game does not mean he played well. SAF still believes rooney's inability to stay close to busquets cost us the game.



finally, elampiro has admitted his initial claim is a fraud. rooney hasn't scored 17 UCL knock out goals playing in the hole. he's been moved everywhere & he's played mostly as a striker when he scored those goals.



overall, rooney should be sold!!!!

1. I just saw this now.

Ozil, 31 UCL appearance for Real Madrid = 4 goals.

2. Now you jumped to national team. Hahaha. Did they win the tournament? That tournament Angela Merkel had to apologise to Cameron on ref's error in canceling Lampard's goal which was a key decision step in the match.

3. Rooney scored in Stamford Bridge and we won. He was also in the hole in other matches and we won. Rooney was our only good player on the night until Scholes arrived at 1-3.

4. Rooney has played scantily as a striker. I can even remember only one or two match(es) he led. The rest as a player in the holes, on the left or right. Kagawa can't play that way.

Ozil = 4 letter word = 4 UCL goals in 31 appearances for mighty Madrid where chances are like pure water. Rooney would have scored 20 in 31 games. No wonder Madrid were always failing against tough teams.



Ozil may win the Epl or whatever, he will always be inferior to Rooney in football.

coogar: his team is currently 8 points ahead of rooney's team. his team räped rooney's team in the last world cup where a young ozil destroyed rooney's international credibility in the biggest stage.

do you want more?



he scored a goal but stunk the whole joint for the remaining parts of the game. we would have played better without him. that he scored in that game does not mean he played well. SAF still believes rooney's inability to stay close to busquets cost us the game.



finally, elampiro has admitted his initial claim is a fraud. rooney hasn't scored 17 UCL knock out goals playing in the hole. he's been moved everywhere & he's played mostly as a striker when he scored those goals.



overall, rooney should be sold!!!!

1. I just saw this now.

Ozil, 31 UCL appearance for Real Madrid = 4 goals.

2. Now you jumped to national team. Hahaha. Did they win the tournament? That tournament Angela Merkel had to apologise to Cameron on ref's error in canceling Lampard's goal which was a key decision step in the match.

3. Rooney scored in Stamford Bridge and we won. He was also in the hole in other matches and we won. Rooney was our only good player on the night until Scholes arrived at 1-3.

4. Rooney has played scantily as a striker. I can even remember only one or two match(es) he led. The rest as a player in the holes, on the left or right. Kagawa can't play that way.

Ozil = 4 letter word = 4 UCL goals in 31 appearances for mighty Madrid where chances are like pure water. Rooney would have scored 20 in 31 games. No wonder Madrid were always failing against tough teams.



Ozil may win the Epl or whatever, he will always be inferior to Rooney in football.

coogar: so you have now agreed the 17 UCL knock-out goals as a no.10 is a fraudulent claim. in 2006/7, rooney was the lead striker in the knock out stage. in 07/08 & 08/09 united played 4-3-3 with rooney playing wide to accommodate ronaldo. in 09/10, rooney was the arrow head.



the formation change paints a different scenario & puts a dent in your claim. other no.10s play as no.10s, rooney has played mostly as the lead striker in the last 10 years.



you have just described rooney - when you watch ozil & kagawa operate in the hole & you compare them to rooney, the difference is like watching a ferrari & a molue on a racecourse.

1. So what has Ozil hole role done for his team? No UCL trophy or final. Same with Kagawa. Now you want to drag us back?

2. We need a hole player who can adapt and win games against different teams. In 2010/11, Rooney was in the hole and we got to the final. He even scored a goal from the hole against Barca and in Chelsea in Stamford Bridge. In 2007/8 he was mostly on the left, but sometimes right. He scored goals from there. In 2009/10 I could only remember he leading the attack once- against Bayern Munich. At Old Trafford I have forgotten the formation. In 2006/7, I thought we had Oleg and Saha? We also had Larsson with us on loan. Lasson led our attack in some matches.

Overall a joker is a joker. We need a joker and not a static player who will not adapt.

coogar: hahahaha - rooney? number 10 for 10 years in europe where 80% of our formation has been 4-3-3 & 4-5-1? elampiro, why do you like lying?




so after only 2-5 games nani has played this season, you were able to conclude valencia is the better winger? as in, 2-5 games this season has changed your long-held beliefs?

elampiro, if you earned 1 iraqi dinar for each lie you have told, you would be a billionaire in british pounds.

1. Do you mean it's only in Europe United has been playing in the past 10 years. Rooney has been our number 10 both in the EPL and UCL in the past 10 years.

The formation may change but number 10 remains number 10, the joker. Rooney has been our joker in all tournaments.

2. As usual, Nani only showed a sign of potential in those 2.5 games. Just like when you play a 17 years old and you see massive potentials but you know there is still a long way to go.

**** Osar, Mata and Hazard are used as a benchmark for no.10. Yet they couldn't win the league and went out of UCL group stage.

**** When Oscar or Mata or Harzard or Silva or Ozil has achieved the below, them we can begin to discuss if they are as effective as Wayne Rooney in the number 10.
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Rooney makes the world of difference for 10-man United

 Victory comes despite straight red card for defender Vidic

Monday 22 December 2008 01.16 GMT

Sir Alex Ferguson feared the Club World Cup could have repercussions for Manchester United and now he can name the time and place when its impact will be felt: 24 February 2009 at the San Siro, when their defence of the Champions League will continue without Nemanja Vidic after his foolish dismissal against Liga de Quito. Right now, however, that seems a small price to pay for a club who like to think themselves the biggest in the world and can now officially claim to be the best.

While Wayne Rooney received a car from Toyota as the player of this tourna­ment and the architect of United's 2008 treble — champions of England, ­champions of Europe and now champions of the world — Vidic collected a needless red card for an elbow on Claudio Bieler in the 49th minute of yesterday's final. The influential central defender will be suspended for United's next Champions League game at Internazionale, given that it is technically a qualifying event for the Club World Cup, and possibly longer once Fifa passes its official report on to Uefa's disciplinary committee. "He will get at least a one-match ban," a Fifa spokesman confirmed. "A Fifa commission will have to meet to decide if they will recommend any more to Uefa."

Not even Ferguson could find room for complaint. "He just pushed it into him really. It was soft, but if you do that in front of the referee you give yourself no chance," the United manager admitted. "It's disappointing. It was unnecessary because the two central defenders were having the easiest night they had had for ages. I don't know how long the ban will be but I hope it is not too bad for us."

Ferguson had every right to be aggrieved with the Serbian international, who refused to discuss the incident afterwards as he told waiting reporters: "This is not a good time for me."

At least he got that right. The elbow was an unnecessary risk in a final United had dominated and an undeserved diversion from the achievement of becoming the first English team to win the Club World Cup in its expanded form.

As has been the case throughout ­United's time in Japan, Rooney revelled in the occasion and delivered the victory the team deserved with the goal his outstanding display merited in the 73rd minute.

The winner, swept into the far corner of José Cevallos's goal after Michael Carrick and Cristiano Ronaldo had combined to tee him up on the left of the area, spared United the anxiety of playing a further 30 minutes with 10 men against opponents who came to life only with defeat steadily closing in. "It's an amazing feeling to be a world champion," said Rooney, whose demeanour has defied those who doubt the credibility of this tournament.

"I looked at my phone in the dressing room after I'd had a shower and there was a text from a friend saying 'Congratulations, you're a world champion'. That's a great feeling, one that no one can ever take away from you. It's the perfect way to end the year, winning a third trophy to go with the Premier League and Cham­pions League."

Rooney epitomised United's greater ambition, intent and quality from the start, forcing two saves from Cevallos with thunderous attempts in the first half and also chipping just over the Liga de Quito goal when played through by the first in a series of incisive passes from Carrick.

The only time Rooney suffered any discomfort was when handed a giant golden car key in the post-match presentation. How big must the car be? "I'll be keeping the car," added the owner of a £177,100 Aston Martin Vanquish and a £112,750 Bentley Continental GT — among others.

Theoretically this was a contest between the first- and second-best club sides in the world but the Ecuadorians' true status undermines Fifa's desire to have this event appreciated throughout the world. Liga de Quito arrived with only two objectives in mind: to stage a damage-limitation exercise and to attempt to damage Ronaldo's ankles. Only in the final stages did they show the quality or desire that brought them the Copa Libertadores this year.

"I don't think they really wanted to play," said Edwin van der Sar, who produced two spectacular saves from shots by Alejandro Manso and should have been beaten in the fourth minute when Jairo Campos somehow miscued wide from two yards out. "When they broke, only four players came out, and for our part we were disappointed we didn't score and punish them earlier. Even in the second half they were not coming out of their shell. We were still playing the best football and had the best possession with 10 men." This event may lack prestige in Europe but, Vidic apart, United will not rue the exertion required to become champions of the world.

Man of the match Wayne Rooney (Manchester United)

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2008/dec/21/manchester-united-quito-club-world-cup-rooney-vidic

coogar: conveniently forgetting half of those goals were scored with rooney playing as a number 9.



how many no.10 have played as many as UCL knockout games as rooney?



if you are talking about being poorly consistent then rooney wins. ozil, mata, oscar, aguero, lampard(in his prime) are better than rooney in the premier league.



rubbish!
no golden boot in the premier league or champions league. no top 3 finishes in the ballon d'or. shame on wayne rooney - we all saw how ozil outplayed him in south africa.




liar liar - pants on fire!!!
you were assessing the strengths of both wingers overall - it has nothing to do with this season or last season. so nani could dribble last season & he cannot dribble now? valencia couldn't shoot from a distance last season but he's capable of doing that now? when would you ever admit you speak from both sides of your mouth?

1. Only one answer to the Rooney's argument. 17 UCL knockout goals, yes you have to score in the quarter to be able to qualify to score in the semifinal. I guess all the big 3 teams in Italy, Spain, Germany, England and France had number 10s.

Also you have to be consistent to be a number 10 in a big club for 10 years.

2. Go back to my comments on Valencia and Nani. Read them thoroughly. At a certain time, I even mentioned I was confused about who to pick. But this season, I have no doubt.

@SailorXY,

I know you are the head of committee of Kagawa lovers association. I have no problem with Kagawa. The problem I see is that some people hoping, praying for Rooney to fail so as to make a case for Kagawa. Also same people look for the slightest of reason to put some blames on Rooney for the same reason to promote Kagawa. There are many number 10s in the world, virtually all do have some days they were not superb. You have to be a Messi or Ronaldo to be superb almost every time. But outside their clubs they also have off days for their countries. Messi was anonymous against Bayern. Silva and Arguero or Oscar and Harard are taken off games and Dzeko or Mata will come in to get a winner, etc.

So what is the big deal of taking off Rooney and then try and play differently? I never heard Aguero was the reason City played poorly until Dzeko comes in to win games.

Now Kagawa is making case for the hole. He too will have days that people will be shouting 'give us Janujaz'. Watchout!

...and who and who do you mention when you discuss legends of the soccer hole:



Hole (association football)



In association football, or soccer, the hole is generally referred to as the gap between a team's midfield players and its front strikers, particularly in a 4-4-2 formation resulting in a 4-4-1-1 formation. The gap might be filled through the employment of an attacking midfielder, or a deep lying striker. The player in the hole aims to utilise the gap left between opponent's midfield and defence.[1]

Notable players who occupy (or occupied) the hole include Pelé,[2] Eusébio, Johan Cruijff,[2] Zico, Michel Platini,[2] Diego Maradona,[2] Roberto Baggio, Kenny Dalglish, Dennis Bergkamp, Francesco Totti, Alessandro Del Piero, Peter Beardsley, Wesley Sneijder, Jari Litmanen, Eric Cantona, Wayne Rooney, Rivaldo, Zinedine Zidane,[2] Kaká, Mesut Özil, Rafael van der Vaart,[3] and Ronaldinho - most of whom wore the number 10, although Beardsley often wore 8 while Dalglish wore 7. Hence a player who inherits the role of a playmaker, or who inhabits the hole can often be referred to as a "number 10".

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hole_(association_football)

coogar: this was elampiro's assessment of nani & valencia not too long ago. how valencia now managed to be better than nani is mind-boggling. does anyone need any more reason to see elampiro speaks from both sides of his mouth?

Yes, if you go back you will see several instances where I said it is hard to choose between the two. I said Valencia had excellent games prior to his broken leg, then again before his second major injury. Then Nani has not really live up to his potential.

My support for Valencia over Nani is the current (this season). I also saw both guys for their national teams in recent matches. Valencia was playing like a boss while Nani was confusing himself with his attempts at dribbling. He has lost it. He is a bit better for United though.

coogar: shut up, elampiro!
address the issue & defend your stance. tell us how rooney is one of the top no.10 in the world?

1. How many no.10 have 200 goals?

2. How many no.10 have 17 UCL knockout goals?

3. How many number 10 have been as consistent in the last 10 years?




Wait.

4. Any number 10 in the EPL with this?

Honours

Club

Manchester United

▪ Premier League (5): 2006–07, 2007–08, 2008–09, 2010–11, 2012–13

▪ Football League Cup (2): 2005–06, 2009–10

▪ FA Community Shield (3): 2007, 2010, 2011

▪ UEFA Champions League (1): 2007–08

▪ FIFA Club World Cup (1): 2008

Individual

▪ PFA Players' Player of the Year (1): 2009–10

▪ PFA Young Player of the Year (2): 2004–05, 2005–06

▪ PFA Fans' Player of the Year (2): 2005–06, 2009–10

▪ PFA Premier League Team of the Year (3): 2005–06, 2009–10, 2011–12

▪ FWA Footballer of the Year (1): 2009–10

▪ Goal of the Season (3): 2004–05, 2006–07, 2010–11

▪ Goal of the Month (6): October 2003, January 2005, April 2005, January 2007, March 2007, February 2011

▪ Sir Matt Busby Player of the Year (2): 2005–06, 2009–10

▪ BBC Young Sports Personality of the Year (1): 2002

▪ Bravo Award (1): 2003

▪ UEFA Euro 2004 Team of the Tournament

▪ FIFPro World Young Player of the Year (1): 2004–05

▪ Premier League Player of the Month (5): February 2005, December 2005, March 2006, October 2007, January 2010

▪ Barclays Player of the Year (1): 2009–10

▪ Premier League 20 Seasons Awards (1992–93 to 2011–12):

▪ Best Goal (vs. Manchester City, 12 February 2011)

▪ FIFA Club World Cup Golden Ball (1): 2008

▪ England Player of the Year (2): 2008, 2009

▪ Golden Boot Landmark Award 20 (1): 2009–10

▪ FIFA/FIFPro World XI (1): 2011

Personal life

In addition to Everton, Rooney also supports Celtic.[198] He is also a big supporter of the Leeds Rhinos rugby league club.[199]

Rooney gave up boxing to pursue a career in football when he originally joined Everton, but he still uses boxing as a way to curb his temper.[200]

In June 2011, he visited the Harley Street Hair Clinic and had a hair transplant.[201] He visited the same clinic for a second transplant in June 2013.[202]

It was announced in July 2011, that Wayne Rooney's jersey was the best-selling sports product that is under the auspices of the Premier League. Manchester United sold, during the 2009–10 season, between 1.2 million and one and a half million shirts and it is estimated that of that, Rooney's name was printed on several hundred thousand. The account is taken from official jerseys sales across the globe, not just in England.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne_Rooney

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne_Rooney

royale442: Bro, i was dissapointed in you after reading this.

What makes you get disappointed? Kagawa? And you have never been disappointed after reading antiRooney's comment. You are already showing your biased between players.

SEGAD: 17452. SEGAD: Quote Post

[quote author=elampiro)

2. History has it that Rooney is in the league of one of the best no. 10 that have ever kicked a ball at the highest level. Next season, he will still be playing the number 10 or 9. Any hater can go and die.

Bros, you are very funny. Arsenal have Ozil & Carzola, Chealsea have Oscar & Mata, Liverpool- Coutinho, Man City has Silver, Man utd have Kagawa & Anderson. All aforementioned players have similar skills that qualify for number 10.[/quote]1. Ozil is a much much different player from Silver and Oscar or even Hazard. Anderson is different from everyone there.

2. Rooney has been the best number 10 in the EPL in many years now. All number 10 are not the same. Look at all the big teams all over Europe. When they are giving example of a hole player, you will hear Pele, Rivaldo, Maradonna, and other great players, and Rooney is one of them used in examples.

[quote author=StarBoard]Coogar, you get time.
Honestly the fellow is deranged in my opinion.
If his so-called best-ever No. 10 can manage only 63% pass completion vs a struggling Sociedad team, there is nothing else left to be said.

Even I who defended the fella have done a complete u-turn.
The pro Valencia camp is yet to tell us what exactly makes him our best winger.
Just like the pro-rooney team is yet to tell us what exactly he does that makes him our best option.[/quote
]

Coogar's son.

Can't you have a word of your own? Always aligning your self with Coogar. Even in the Zidane argument, also the beck vs Valencia argument.

dademola: I saw a well organized arsenal this evening! Subbing carzola for monreal so as to offer defensive cover for gibbs against d pacy aubameyang? Dt move was soo "un-wenger-like"! Ts like arsene has started learning hw to win certain games! Lets see wot happens on sunday

A bit of luck. Dortmund could have scored 2 or 3 in the first half.

All the same, weldone Arsenal.

Oghos1: The dortmund team at that time had little or no ucl experience. U want to blame it on kagawa? lol.

So bayern munich are no longer a big team

And all f a sudden the experience came last season?

Next no.10 or 7.

Player of the month October.

*** so many posts. Where do I start from? Naija league even in the midst.

1. Valencia has been our best winger this season. No sentiments. It is obvious why he gets games and he doesn't even rest well again.

2. History has it that Rooney is in the league of one of the best no. 10 that have ever kicked a ball at the highest level. Next season, he will still be playing the number 10 or 9. Any hater can go and die.

3. It was SAF who told Rooney not to go. So even if SAF was still around, Rooney will be playing.

4. As for Kagawa, we are watching. When he went to UCL for Dortmund, how did he fare in the number 10? That guy looks like someone who will struggle against big teams irrespective of where he plays.


We are here watching.

Messi and Ronaldo are world best but....

*** Messi and Ronaldo are highly protected by a wold class midfield.

*** Messi and Ronaldo can afford to conserve energy against weak Spanish teams. There is no such luxury in the EPL these days ( also, no thanks to our wicked early fixtures and poor start). You work hard for your goals and work even harder to protect your lead even against relegation hunted teams.

.........

Now see more excuses for RVP and Chicha's wastes. Zero tolerance for Rooney, but RVP and Chicha must be pardoned.

SEGAD: @ Elampiro, from your assesment of our present squads, who do you think should play that role?

I won't give you a direct answer.

1. Many people want Kagawa to play it. We shall see after a run of games.

2. Janujaz gives signa, but again it is a different thing when you play week in week out.

3. Until convinced otherwise, it is Rooney's position.

Kagawa number 10, Kagawa number 10.

We are here watching. I pray Moyes gives him that duty in the next 8 games or so.

Someone who struggled in the number ten against common Asia teams in the preseason. Now 10 mins of glory which was quickly quenched by Sociedad, is now a yard stick.

We are watching.

leggo: reus can never leave bvb for United after seeing how shinji ended , plus united players are too slow for his style

United players too slow. Just because you want to promote Kagawa. Tell us where your loyalty is.

I have said Kagawa will have his time at the middle. You guys will soon understand this EPL. When you have wrestled with Stoke, West. Brom, Southampton, Chelsea, Totteham, Everton you won't be able to boast of speed anymore. You will be the one begging the coach for a time off. In between these matches you also have some national duties.

Cristiano Ronaldo broke Lionel Messi's record for Champions League goals in a calendar year as Pep Guardiola's Bayern Munich drew level with Barcelona's famous winning streak

Cristiano Ronaldo has broken the record held for Champions League goals scored in a calendar year after his second-half strike for Real Madrid at Juventus on Tuesday - overtaking the mark previously set by Barcelona's Lionel Messi.

Ronaldo latched on to a Karim Benzema pass in the 52nd minute and beat Gianluigi Buffon with a right-footed finish to level the scores at 1-1 after Arturo Vidal had blasted the Bianconeri in front from the penalty spot in the first half.

It was the Portuguese's eighth goal in four Group B games this term and his 14th in the Champions League this calendar year, a total which sees him surpass Messi's 13 strikes in 2012.

Ronaldo's goal was his 59th in the Champions League. The Portuguese now trails only Messi (63) and Raul (71). He also needs just one more strike to set a new group stage record currently shared with Hernan Crespo, Filippo Inzaghi and Ruud van Nistelrooy.

Messi, meanwhile, can add to his tally for Barca on Wednesday at home to AC Milan. The Argentine has hit seven goals in the Champions League in 2013, having been restricted by injury at the end of last season and also at the beginning of the current campaign.

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