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dayokanu: WHo cares if its a 70yr old that would solve Man Utd problem.

My issue is you calling a 25yr old a young player? At his age he should already be at his peak. Thiago has been ready for a while but he has a legend in front of him called Xavi. Thiago at 80% of clubs would run their midfield.

Paulinho lets see how he fares at Spurs. How many players have been icons in South America and flopped massively in Europe.

Europe is still waiting for Robinho, Pato to dazzle, How did Kleberson at Man Utd, Denilson (Arsenal and that of Betis) fare

Was that not the same way Kleberson dazzled at the world cup for Brazil before flopping massively for the same Man Utd

So what makes you believe that Thiago cannot flop? Has he run a full season?

Andnan Januzaj. This was how CR7, Neymar and Giggs started. This guy will rule Old Trafford. When I watched him today I told myself he will be great. He was every where trying out great things.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYc_BwbtY4E

SailorXY: Elampiro no be say I dey vex sha ooo, but you dey add salt to injury walahi
How can you believe the board said Moyes has "unlimited budget"?? Taaa... Who dem dey deceive?? Why did we allow a very young promising chap slip through our fingers? You think money was not a factor in Thiago's move? What of Strootman, why are wE cold over good young players? Is it that some guys in the academy are showing much promise? If this is the case, perfect! Then how about bringing in older experienced legs that can fill in for 3-4 years, we made no move for Paulinho at all. Now rumors about Modric & shyte is coming up... Niiggaa please! Why don't they go out & pay the damn asking price of Ronaldo & Bale if really the funds are unlimited? At least with those players, we will keep winning even with Ogude in our midfield

I just dey follow wetin bos tell us na.

I believe he knows what he is doing. Moreso, the transfer window has not been closed yet.

If United can get Bale let them do it. Then look for a good midfield player even from the EPL. With Anderson, Cleverly and Carrick playing long we will do it.

I am not yet panicking.

yemmight: You are just here defending this coach. The Paulino guy u mentioned is Totehamm player already. We lost a player that is rated above iniesta in Barca. For pep to add up such player in addition to full loads Bayern has got means the coach is damn serious. We should do away with overrated English players like ur choice they are really affecting our team.

You are writing out of sentiments. Who are these overrated English players? And who are those to come and fill the gap?

These same players everyone criticize have won us EPL so many times. They only lost it to City on goals difference and to Chelsea with one point. If CR7 had not departed United would have been ruling the world.

The other teams (Madrid, Man City, Chelsea, Bayern Munich, etc) buying the non English players, what achievement do they have over us in the past 5 to 6 years?

dayokanu: A 25 yr old is now a young player. Since 2003 10years ago how many world player of the year were older

If a 25 years old will solve Manchester United midfield good. Leave the age. Put Thiago and Paulinho, I will pick Paulinho because he isn't going to wait to mature. He is there already commanding.

dademola: bt serzly, hw did dt wanyama end up at southampton?? Ts obvious dos at d helm of affairs dont see things d way we do here sha

Wanyama is a 50:50 risk.

dayokanu: Paulinho that's almost same age with Messi and Fabregas and has never played a minute in Europe.

He is 25. Europe is not the only place football is played. Has he not marshalled the Brazilian midfield to success now?

Ramires and Anderson were not even there.

Sincerely that Paulinho is very good. But I heard Madrid are there already negotiating.

But lets believe and wait, it's still 5 weeks to go.

elampiro: David Moyes on Manchester United Transfer Budget. No limit
New United boss suffers defeat in first game in charge, like Sir Alex Ferguson did 26 years ago

"We are always looking at the best players. I think we are trying to strengthen in a couple of areas. We are short in midfield. [/b]We are also a club which tends to invest in the youth side, so you can expect us to go for players in that age group. [b]We are working hard to make sure the first signing is the right one. I have been left a really good team and I want to add to it sensibly," he explained.

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/489983/20130714/manchester-united-transfers-moyes-preseason-friendly-thailand.htm
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The above from the link I posted earlier convinced me they will do something interesting. Fellani cannot be the reason we want to spend big. But even if he would be the one, what if he became the hero. Although I don't like his game. Too slow.

afrodoc: It doesnt matter wether other clubs rejected them or not,what matters is do they fit into our squad and improve it.
King Eric was a Leeds reject, Howard Wilkinson didnt like him and wanted him out of the club.
if Madrid reject Modric and Bayern reject Schweini i will take them over Fellaini abeg.and i wasnt saying we wait,i said the club has to be PROACTIVE.make serious inquiries now and see which top midfielder u can get.however fingers crossed they are already doing something positive.i remain optimistic and loyal

I agree.

[quote author=Mr_TA]We no longer have the luxury of one of the greatest managers of all time.[/quote]Well, I will still wait and see. Moyes wouldn't want to be shamed at the end of the season. He too has said he has been given unlimited budget. So I want to believe someone great is coming. May be two or three.

dayokanu: Who is the best young midfielder in the world

Paulinho may not be as young as Thiago but to me he is a better player than Thiago. He will immediately bridge the gap.

If Thiago Lacasera likes let him go to Man City. He is not the best young midfielder in the world. If he didn't want to sign for United will the club kill themselves? You cannot always get what you want and every rational human being has to prioritized.

I honestly believe the club will come out triumph at the end in the transfer market. I even prefer a certain Brazilian midfielder in the confederation cup.

afrodoc: i dey siddon look.hearing rumors about gareth bale,cristiano ronaldo....is it that there is nobody in the entire United organisation with eyes to see the gaping chasm in central midfield?

The lastest rumours is Modric. But I am relaxed becuase I believe the club knows best. Moyes can see better than us. He is more experienced than us.

yemmight: Just in the news the signing of Thiago by Bayern. This is painful. Somebody is here deffending Rooney that will never be of us to us while we keep loosing useful targets.if Man U start the seasons with the likes of Rooney, Giggs and co, I bet it we will never end up as top 4.

Na wai! So I guess it was Thiago lacacera that has been helping us to top four and tittles?

Let's wake up to reality. Thiago is not Neyman. Sneidja with all his experience didn't come and we have won the EPL twice.

coogar: you have been beaten hands down in the argument. anderson/cleverley started together as central midfielders and united were winning in all the games with the 2 of them on the pitch! if you add the city game(community shield), reading(fa cup), cluj(europe) and newcastle(league cup) then you have 10 games won!



what a disgraceful line of thought....
barcelona had xavi and iniesta, why did they buy cesc, song, mascherano? why did they promote busquets and thiago? so if anderson should get injured again, who would replace him? you or the king of your village?

the only reason people are clamouring for thiago n co is because of injuries.....and bodies have to be replaced. we have not replaced scholes, hargreaves and fletcher since they left.

I have no need to argue further when I discovered they partnered in the midfield yesterday and they lost.

On 62nd minute Anderson, Cleverly and Giggs went out. From 0 minute to 62miute Cleverly and Anderson played in the middle of the midfield. Cleverly particularly,sat back leveled with Carrick while we defended and Anderson being the more who adventured forward. Sometimes they interchanged roles but Carrick was more the sitting guy, but when he ventured forward Cleverly covered for him more than Anderson.

Januzaj played more from the right flank and Giggs more from the left flank. Cleverly and Anderson had nothing to do with wing in the match. Let's be sincere in our comments here.

So what time did Cleverly switched from midfield. Up to 49 minute when United conceded he played deeply in the middle beside Carrick. And Anderson also interchanging with them.

Someone should watch this and come and witness.

Moyes: "Ashley Young’s started some training, Chris Smalling has started some light training and Nemanja Vidic has started."

Football player's speed's:


- Antonio VALENCIA 35.1Km/h

- Gareth BALE 34.7Km/h

- Aaron LENNON 33.8Km/h

- Cristiano RONALDO 33.6Km/h

- Theo WALCOTT 32.7Km/h


This Stat was Recorded on the Basis of Best Sprint Time in Matches, And this Report is been Issued by FIFA.


Luis Antonio Valencia Is The Fastest Player In Europe !!
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Someone wrote the above. But I doubt if this is correct. Is there any official record of players' speed? However, I know Valencia is a speed marshal .

RVP and De Gea set to join training.

RVP is back.

David Moyes on Manchester United Transfer Budget
New United boss suffers defeat in first game in charge, like Sir Alex Ferguson did 26 years ago

New Manchester United boss David Moyes says he has the complete backing of the Old Trafford club's board and a free reign in the summer transfer market. The former Everton manager took over from the retiring Sir Alex Ferguson on 1 July and is tasked with defending the Premier League title and building a new legacy at the English champions.

The 50-year-old Moyes has been linked to a number of big name signings this summer, with the biggest the return of star Portuguese international Cristiano Ronaldo. The Mail Online quoted the 28-year-old Real Madrid star as confirming his love for his former club but ruling out a return.

Meanwhile, the Belfast Telegraph believes Moyes has been told he can go all out to sign Tottenham winger Gareth Bale, if he wants the Welsh international.

"Isn't it great that the club says, 'There's no budget here, you go get who you want to get, just go and do it'. We are looking at the best players. I do think it's important that we show people we are carrying on the traditions and trying to take the club forward," Moyes said.

Either one of Ronaldo or Bale, assuming Madrid and Spurs are ready to start negotiations, will be extremely expensive transfers, with the Mail and The Sun quoting at least £65m as fee for each player.

However, despite the glamour of big-money signings, Moyes has shown his trademark thrift in transfer dealings by insisting he will only sign players who can improve the club, both at present and in the long run.

"We are always looking at the best players. I think we are trying to strengthen in a couple of areas. We are short in midfield. [/b]We are also a club which tends to invest in the youth side, so you can expect us to go for players in that age group. [b]We are working hard to make sure the first signing is the right one. I have been left a really good team and I want to add to it sensibly," he explained.

Meanwhile, Moyes' first game in charge has ended in disappointment. United were beaten 0-1 by the Singha All-Stars XI in Bangkok on Saturday. Incidentally, Ferguson's reign got off to a similar start - he was beaten 0-2 at Oxford.

"It's not a brilliant result but I'm pleased with the way they kept going. If you are going to lose any game, I am happy to lose these games," Moyes said after the game.

United play the A-League All Stars at Sydney on 20 July in their next game.

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/489983/20130714/manchester-united-transfers-moyes-preseason-friendly-thailand.htm


Now the boss is talking.

On the bold part: Perhaps my non giving up on Bale or CR7 might just come true.

On the highlighted in red: The club and Moyes are aware of our worries. So we can all relax now.

I have always been confident they knew what they were doing. Even if Rooney doesn't want to stay I am sure the gaps will be filled. But I hope he stays.

10 things about Adnan Januzaj :

1. Adnan Januzaj is a Belgian born youngster with an Kosovan Albanian origin.

2. A left-footed floater in the midfield, the 18-year-old was scouted by Man United from Anderlechts academy in 2011. United beat Barcelona in the race to sign this youngster for just £297,000.

3. Born on Feb 5, Adnan shares his birthday with Carlos Tevez, Neymar and former United No.7 Cristiano Ronaldo.

4. Adnan Januzaj was awarded with Reserves Player of the Season at the end of last season.

5. “Adnan is a beautifully balanced player. He’s only 18 and still to grow into his frame. But he has good balance, good acceleration and he’s a very good technical player.” – Sir Alex, on the Belgian’s promising attributes.

6. Sir Alex recently rewarded him a first team jersey (No.44) as he made an appearance on the bench for the manager’s last ever EPL game against West Brom. Moyes on the other hand has already hinted the Belgian’s inclusion in the plans for the upcoming season.

7. He played a stellar role in the final against Tottenham Spurs helping them come from 2 goals behind to seal the Reserves Premier League title 2012-13.

8. His free-kick remains to be one of his best assets on the football field. Although, he wants to be known as a creative spark that can change a game single-handedly.

9. Moyes is rumoured to have tabled a new long-term deal for Adnan that could avoid another Pogba-esque exit.

10. Januzaj was trending worldwide on twitter for the 90 minutes during United’s first pre-season game against Singha All-Stars XI. That’s some evidence of his impact on the game

coogar: this is how i would expect a goat to reason...
so if cleverley went off at 4-2 when united is leading, then he's responsible for the game ending 5-5? even if your IQ is subzero, shouldn't you know only the period anderson & cleverley were together on the pitch as midfielders can be analysed?



stop lying....
cleverley did not start as a winger in the FA cup. if he did, tell us which one instead of wallowing in being a pathological liar.



you are a disgrace....
10 different matches that include tough teams like spurs, arsenal and man city, etc are too few to draw a conclusion? why not shut your mouth and admit you have been sonned nice again with your baseless and idiotic submission.....

your biggest weakness is you don't know when to stop opening your mouth. you want to blame the anderson/cleverley axis for the 5-5 draw @ west brom when one of them sat out the last 30 mins on the bench?

come on, you are plumbing new depths of idiocy....

When someone resort to insults instead of engaging in a logical argument, it is clear he has run out of ideas.

FACT:
Anderson and Cleverly have only won three league matches when started alone. If this was a strong streak, no one would be clamouring for Thiago and co. I reiterate my position that they have not been tested enough. Period!

coogar: they have not lost a game they started together as central midfielders. the premise of this argument as always centred on their partnership in the midfield. i fail to see a game where cleverley started as a winger as a midfield partnership with anderson. when you are defeated in an argument, learn to raise your hands up and bow to superior points!

anderson/cleverley have played 10 games together as central midfielders including 6 premier league games - the statistics read 100% win record. you can twist, bend, distort and lie but these are the facts......i know grasping at straws is your hobby when you have been pilloried.

in 2011/12, they beat west brom(2-1), spurs(3-0), arsenal(8-2) and were leading(1-0) to bolton before cleverley went off injured. in 2012/13, they murdered fulham(3-2) and were leading west brom(5-2) when fergie took off cleverley around the hour mark!!!

They were leading West Brom 4-2 and not 5-2 and the match eventually ended 5-5. That distort the 100% record. No match ends at 70 mins. What about Barca match Anderson went out and United sustained the lead? Who knows what would have happened had he not left at half time. Football is not mathematics.

I just left my laptop now, using my phone. In one of the FA cup matches, Cleverly started from the flank.

My point is, the so called 100% blablabla is not necessary. There is nothing important there because they only did it without another midfield player in just three league matches. Fletcher was there against one FA cup and a league game while Carrick was there in the rest. So what's the big deal? The matches are just too few to judge. I wish they can be given a run of 15 matches.

coogar: because you were hanging loosely on the final result of the west brom game that ended 5-5. it was 5-2 with the midfield partnership of anderson/cleverley. it stopped being their partnership the moment one of them got substituted.



go find that out yourself but stop trying to distort the facts....




their record is 100% when they have both played together as central midfielders. if you think the claim is wrong, this is your chance to prove me wrong.

I haven't the time to go into such details. All I know is they have now lost a match they started together. That was a record for them before, now it is gone. I also know they played along Flecther (Newcastle FA cup), Carrick and Jones in the midfield to achieve some of these results. I also know they have only 3 league wins with only two of them marshaling the midfield only by themselves. So I see no big deals in these matches because they are too few to draw a conclusion as to them being able to take our midfield tot the promised land.

coogar: surely, this is a wind-up!
what were the results of the games when they were both on the pitch before their substitutions? shouldn't that be the determinant? must both play the whole 90 mins of a match before we can analyse their strengths? anderson/cleverley have played about 9 games together as central midfielders with 100% win record...

that's the single most important fact!



were you banned from using google?

1. You brought the issue of substitution.

2. Can you list the 9 matches they played together and the final results? How many league games, FA cup, Carling cup and preseason matches. What I have is that they have played 4 league games together. In another league game, Cleverly was used in the wide. Give us the details so that we can analyse properly.

3. My aim now is to know their actual record so that we know the streak to follow.

Manchester United boss David Moyes says Wilfried Zaha will get a chance to shine at Old Trafford this season after impressing on his pre-season debut in Thailand.

"Wilfried did well, we have brought him here to give him a chance. It is the first time I have worked with him and had a chance to see him up close.

"He will certainly be part of the squad and we will see where we can fit him in as often as we can."

Zaha came closest to getting United level when he curled a shot against the post but in the end they could find no response to Teeratep Winothai's 50th-minute goal.

"It wasn't a brilliant result but this wasn't one we desperately needed to win, It is one we need to get prepared to win games from.

"Adnan Janusaz was a plus for us. He played well. It is always good when you give a young player a chance and he shows up. He did that tonight. The more he plays like that, the more opportunities he is likely to get." (Source: SkySports)