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coogar: it's not broken....
the crux of their success is their midfield partnership. if one or both of them are not played as central midfielders then it's not a partnership and it renders your argument null and void. if one of them gets subbed like it happened in the 5-5 against west brom, how then can you call it partnership when one of them has been subbed? it ends being a partnership the moment one of them was subbed and the score as at then was 5-2 to man utd.

this is not calculus....

So, now we can conclude that the matches both started together and non of then was substituted are:

3 league games only. I didn't check if any of them was substituted in the FA cup. In the Barca friendly Anderson was substituted for Giggs.

So we can conclude that they won only three games together.

coogar: they played together as central midfielders against reading(fa cup) newcastle(league cup) and we won those games too. they have a winning streak when stationed side by side on the pitch.

Can you help out with the line up and substitution in these FA cup matches you listed above?

coogar: diamond formation


--------carrick-------
cleverley--anderson
--------kagawa--------
----RVP--hernandez----

partnership restored!

So now we can conclude thus:

Anderson and Cleverly starting together that have produced 100% in 7 league games and 2 preseason matches have been broken now. Although the West Brom game was not even a victory but I want to ignore for the purpose of this argument.

What is left to be broken?
1. Anderson and Cleverly starting and playing midfield alone. 3 League matches, 1 other league match Cleverly went out in early minutes and 2 preseason games.

2. Anderson and Cleverly starting, and mixed with another midfield player. 5 league games and 2 preseasons.

Now let's see how long this streak will go if none is sold. I don't want to go into a prolong argument on this.

coogar: so when did they both start for united in the games i listed that had cleverley playing far from anderson? your arguments are always spineless......learn how to read, learn how to argue. in the game against west brom, cleverley-anderson midfield were winning 5-2 when cleverley went off.



watery points....
i didn't even have to reply before someone exposed your folly!

Cleverly and Anderson midfield against West Brom? So what was Carrick doing?

Purist: haha, I knew this was going to pop up!

Cleverley played as a right winger today, not CM. I believe Coogar's argument has always been that a 2-man MIDFIELD PAIRING of Anderson-Cleverley has always won us matches. Not that if they are both simply on the pitch at the same time. Today's midfield pairing was Anderson-Carrick.

Note: this clarification is simply to mitigate coogar's inevitable insult coming your way you when he sees your post.

Coogar danced in different directions depending on what he wanted to defend. At a time he said when both paired, some other time he said when both started, like the West Brom game. That was actually his last position- that United never lost a match when both started. They have only paired in 3 league matches in full and two preseasons.

As for his insults, who cares anymore? I push my points through and I wait for reactions.

colombiana: This BBA all i see it does is degrade humans. Not as if when ur done ud be able to afford a crib in VI or it cud get u a G550 amg. There is public and private stuffs its absurd for some one u neva met and won't see to pay u to wash ur dirty private life in public. There is no two ways about it, only the devil pays for such

I agree with you.

For the records: Anderson and Cleverly started together. So can we say the jinx is broken or someone is going to hang this on Moyes? The more matches you play the more possibility the streak gets weak.

Amos; Fabio (Evra 78), Ferdinand, Evans, Buttner (Rafael 34); Cleverley (Jones 62), Carrick, Anderson (Zaha 62), Giggs (Lingard 62); Januzaj; Welbeck.

IYA NGBALI: excuse me,pls who was the goal keeper?

Amos.

So Anderson has passed the test. Now who else under probation passed? Who can give us players' ratings or a surgical analysis?

Moyes might just sell some at the end of the season.

Emperoh: Too bad for Moyes. . . . losing start to his United regime.

Welbeck = Brown Ideye

I thought SAF lost his first game against Oxford. So nothing spoil.

God help. But if he dies it turns out to be a murder case. A whole different big matter starts from there.

Jose Mourinho : I like Rooney. He is just like me. We will fit well.


Reporter : David What do u want to say on the comments made by Jose

David Moyes : Unless I was speaking double Dutch, I Said Wayne Rooney is not for Sale. "


....... Personally I don't see Rooney leaving.

@chrisley024, Moyes saying words to save face? In respect of Thiago? Is Thiago Neymar? There are players you will bring from South America and they will do far better than Thiago as we saw the Brazilian home base in the confederation cup.

Those guys (Moyes and co) don't care what people think. What matters to them is their own plans for the club. When people where speculating United hunting for Falcao for over 40m, SAF cleared it straight that people should not believe in such ridiculous news. If Thiago proves too difficult, there are alternatives. No face to save.

Cleverly coach 5 a side earlier today. Na so ambition dey start.

Mourinho reveals Rooney admiration.

The Chelsea manager has admitted he is a big fan of the Manchester United striker whose future at the Premier League champions remains unclear

Chelsea manager Jose Mourinho has revealed his admiration for Manchester United striker Wayne Rooney.

Goal exclusively reported back in May that the Blues, along with Arsenal, were in the hunt to sign the former Everton star, who Sir Alex Ferguson revealed had requested to leave the club last season.

After missing out on the signing of Falcao, who sealed a big-money move to Monaco at the start of the transfer window, Mourinho is in the market for a marquee striker to lead his attack next season and, speaking in Bangkok at the start of the club's pre-season tour of Asia, the Blues boss insists he's a big fan of the England forward.

He said: "Rooney is a player I like very much but I can say no more than that. Being fast and direct, I like that, but he's a Manchester United player." [GOAL.COM]

chamotex: I banned him

Are you the moderator?

chrisley024: Lol! Arsenal I hail oo!
Well, i jus sit down de look MU n DM, jus pray we don't become like Leeds n Liverpool. Cos now I can't blame those that questioned the future of this club.

I want to believe that we are safe with Moyes, at least in the EPL.

Our boys are training hard.

Premier league Spending Spree in this window Till now
1.Manchester City - 60M
2.Chelsea-31.4m
3.Liverpool - 26.3M
4.Southampton-25M
5.Swansea 23M
6.Spurs- 20M
7.WestHam- 18M
8.Sunderland 14.2M
9.Norwich-13.2M
10..Aston Villa-12.8M
...
18.Manchester United-1.8M
19.Arsenal- 0 M

kristos: Please, hε̲̣̣rε̲̣̣ is cougar?

I asked this question before.

...or did the moderator give him a red card?

''Gutted to have picked up a niggling injury especially as training was going so well, heading back to Manchester to have it assessed fully but early indications are nothing to worry about.'' - Rooney on his facebook wall.

Safety? is the imapala actually safe with humans? May be lesser enemies. It got lucky it wasn't villages boys looking for meat. If not for the cheetah it would have been running far from humans.

Any way smart move.

I am tired of some many things.

A woman should remain a woman.

chamotex: Haha. Rooney is injured.
Fingers crossed

Na wai. Rooney is always injured for the start of a new season. Almost all seasons. This is the time to get fit and not struggle to use matches to gain fitness. Anyway, in football lots of ups and downs are involved. I wanted him to start with a blast.

dademola: ts like bayern is interested in thiago too. Wnt be suprised if we dnt mk any major signing dis summer. Choi.

Guardiola has stated clearly he wants Thiago and he is pursuing a union renewal with his boy.

[quote author=Alaba_Slim]This ya comment na the biggest LIE from the pit of hell[/quote]So what is true? SAF was utmost silent when the speculation of RVP was ongoing. I was always waiting to hear him or Wenger but SAF never categorically stated he was doing the RVP deal.

Brisingr: great article,that righteous ref make me laff.

Me too. Plus this part ''This year seems to be in danger of breaking the pattern as, halfway through the season, four teams have already used up their allotment of two home losses.'' Lol

chrisley024: Money gives u trophy in 2day's football oo! It's either u join or u're left behind.

Spending has its limit. Only last week Macini lamented how he was begging to be given fund for RVP and Cavani but his ogas refused. He felt he should have won the league with them.

As for what we are doing? Moyes said some things are confidential. I support him "cos everyone looks to know where United interest is and hijack it. SAF never made a noise about his pursuit of RVP, else it would have attracted the attention of Madrid, Chelsea and the rest. He learnt from the Ronaldinho saga. Evryone thought Ronaldinho was a united player already only for Barca to hijack the process with plenty money.

People should understand football is a real life big business and not a video game we fix in characters to suit what is on our minds. Anyone can be a football fan and an analyst based on the way they perceived the game whether they have any experience of it or not. Even some obese who have never kicked a ball from birth will still think they know the game more than SAF or Moyes or even Shuabu Amodu and Siasia.

If it were that easy, Barca wouldn't have waited for more than two years to land Neyman. Lewandosky won't be in Dortmund when should be elsewhere collecting a hundred thousand pounds. Bale should have left Totteham since.

Few weeks ago many people here were writing as though Rooney was finished. They thought by now he would have been sold. But his fellow professionals kept stating how valuable he is in world football. Now Moyes mentioned that he has been talking to Rooney and how Rooney has been to his house and he (Moyes) to Rooney's house too. Madrid too are fighting to hold on to Ronaldo.

Football is not as it is seen by most people here. A lot of people have been indoctrinated here to hate some and unnecessary love some other playes irrespective of the reality on ground. Only last night a United facebook fan page was trying to see what fans think about Rooney. The admin wrote 'if you love him click like, if you don't write no'. Within a few minutes before I went to bed, over 700 had hit like while only less than 20 wrote no. Even some of the no still wrote something nice about him.

We should try and understand this game of football properly and balance our comments constructively and objectively with the reality on ground. Sad people already saying negative things about Moyes even before he kicks a ball. So if Strootman and Thiago don't come we not Manchester United again? If they refuse to come and it's Fellani we get, ok. If no good midfield player is available, Moyes will challenge Anderson and Cleverly to new heights. Football is not fantasy. You work with what you have been able to gather within budget and transfer success.

chrisley024: Here is a good article which explains whya possible deal for Thiago isn't as straight forward as some may think I got from MU forum.

http://www.trulyreds.com/20130710 /why-thiagos-release-clause-is-so- complicated/?utm_source=feedburner& utm_medium=feed& utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TrulyRed+%28T he+Manchester+United+fans+blog+%29

If Thiago isn't coming he should stop distracting Manchester United from other options. Football is becoming more political as every country want their best legs remain in their leagues. Lewandosky will be going to Bayern at the end of his contract- Bayern sources claim. Italians best are still playing in Italy despite their poor financial times. All English great want Bale remain in the EPL.

People should calm down and let Moyes analyze the team and situations. We haven't even 20 percent of his football experience. No coach wants to fail and no coach wants to be wasteful. Machini was wasteful. All the big names that arrived what have they achieved for Man City? What of PSG with Lucas and co. Too much of rush can lead to regrettable errors and the Glazziers won't release money again.

Best player award short list. Final 10.

The shortlist:

Gareth Bale (Wales) - Tottenham

Zlatan Ibrahimovic (Sweden) - Paris St-Germain

Robert Lewandowski (Poland) - Borussia Dortmund

Lionel Messi (Argentina) - Barcelona

Thomas Mueller (Germany) - Bayern Munich

Franck Ribery (France) - Bayern Munich

Arjen Robben (Netherlands) - Bayern Munich

Cristiano Ronaldo (Portugal) - Real Madrid

Bastian Schweinsteiger (Germany) - Bayern Munich

Robin van Persie (Netherlands) - Manchester United
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23251646

[quote author=Alaba_Slim]Abeg o has it gotten so so bad that utd (like arss.nal fans) would be celebrating the capture of a Bale, the media-hype? When did it get to this level of celebrating mediocrity ehn? Abi he is the messiah utd are looking for? How can a boy that shone from the ending of jan to april be the soln to utd's CM & DM?
We are talking of the #UCL you are mentioning shivering clubs...plz list the shivering clubs for me? Is it chelsink, citi or what?
Choi this is not the utd i use to know maybe i should blame the debts @ the glazzers table & fergie inclusive.
These days i see fans HAPPY that felaini/baines are been linked to utd of all teams?
Na wa o[/quote]Mr man, Bale has been around in the past three years and also made wave in UCL with a small club as Totteham. If not for injury he would even have done more.

People were calling Neymar media hype until he proved them wrong now. Madrid said they can break the bank for Bale and even pay more than what they spent on Ronaldo.

Bale just made shortlist of European best player award.

I wonder why many people here unnecessarily dislike British players and call them over hype. Like a news word they just learnt 'hype'.

Jodesky: How much is the worth of your conscience (in Naira terms)?
Obvoiusly, logical reasoning must have taken flight away from your medulla as well as your co-travellers. A junior minister receiving a foreign head of state and that does not send a message to you and your rabid fishmongers?. China has a Deputy President and a horde of minsters. All they could do was to send a door-keeper to receive your kinsman and his idle entourage.
Pakistani PM was in China just a week back and was received by Jinping.
The messaage is clear, GEJ and his motley crowd can't be taken serious hence the airport slap on protocol.
Shikena

I is you that your medulla traveled. For you information, I don't do politics or take side in your PDP or APC stuff, and I don't unnecessary dislike people.

When Obama was received in South Africa, a third world country far less than his own, no America made issues out of it. Nigeria is a small country compared to China, and you guys making issue out of nothing. Wh cares who receives the president as long as his achieve his aims? Was he ignored by the Chinese gov? No.