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coogar: but rooney is a spare tire. there are now better players in every position he plays. RVP/chicharito are better goal poachers, kagawa and RVP are better trequartistas so moyes was right with his comment....



such words are supposed to motivate rooney to prove himself worthy. in 2010, he told the media united had no ambition and he wanted to move. quality players have been bought and rooney still wants a move. how long are we going to continue to tolerate the obese striker?



goodluck to rooney on that.......van persie won't be outgunned and chicharito has consistently outperformed rooney since he joined man utd. let rooney and welbeck fight for 3rd choice striker role!

coogar: but rooney is a spare tire. there are now better players in every position he plays. RVP/chicharito are better goal poachers, kagawa and RVP are better trequartistas so moyes was right with his comment....



such words are supposed to motivate rooney to prove himself worthy. in 2010, he told the media united had no ambition and he wanted to move. quality players have been bought and rooney still wants a move. how long are we going to continue to tolerate the obese striker?



goodluck to rooney on that.......van persie won't be outgunned and chicharito has consistently outperformed rooney since he joined man utd. let rooney and welbeck fight for 3rd choice striker role!

dademola: pls, wots ur definition of a squad man??

coogar: good to be silent? rooney is a goat!!



cristiano's wages would get increased or he walks. it's as simple as that. moyes said rooney is not for sale because if van persie were to get injured, rooney would be needed. it then means rooney is a spare tire like buttner and lindegaard!

Fabville: Has Ronaldo been dropped from Madrid team because of that?

So if you are in a court of law and somebody is lying against you, you will keep quiet when you are asked questions in order to defend yourself because Silence is a virtue, it is golden. Give me a break!

Fabville: I have also said that David Moyes spoke in English language that we all understand. I have seen nothing wrong in what he have said other than a 'CHALLENGE' to Rooney work on his fitness. He also said he is going to play a MAJOR ROLE in Utd this season. Can you tell me what the MAJOR ROLE means?

It was not only non-scoring. I have said it that he was one of the three worst performer on that day. Ho loses possession anyhow.

Fabville: You keep on blaming the press. Is it the press that told him not to talk and defend himself? Didi the press tape his mouth? He is the only one that can defend himself not all these false defense you are putting up for him. You keep on going back and forth.

Rooney gave the media the opportunity to feed fat on the news.

If you are a lawyer and somebody employs you to defend him/her in the court of law, you will lose that case with the way you are putting up a defense here.

dademola: u obviously didnt read wot moyes sed. Moyes has sed RVP wld be our main striker, and dt man utd is bigger dan rooney. I'm sure d next thing on ur mind is dt moyes didnt say dt, say na media twist hin words.

Fabville: You can see now that you countering your own argument. You were the one using Rooney's goalscoring ability to measure his performance. I have mentioned earlier that the times he had goals drought, he wasn't dropped because his fitness level was 100% and was playing well. Now his fitness has dropped. He loses possession so much in game because of his lack of fitness and that was why SAF was not using him regularly.

You brought up the issue of RVP's goals drought. Was RVP not playing well then?

Those Nigerians you mentioned up there were fit and playing well. Why won't they be started in each match?

All these that we have been talking about boils down on Rooney's fitness level. What has he done to rediscover his fitness? This is the first time he is having a stiff competition in United shirt and he wants to run away. Can he do all these under Mourinho? He should go and ask Pepe and Casillas.

Fabville: It is not about his comment but his body language. In this situation, a player who doesn't have another thing at the back of his mind would have come out and declare his LOYALTY to the club. Ronaldo and Fabregas did that of recent. What is preventing Rooney from doing same? Silence means consent.

Fabville: What is the basis of comparing Rooney with Iniesta? Are they playing the same role? You are turning this thing into another thing. Comparing oranges with apples as @coogar used to say> I tire for you o.

dademola: wot exactly r u saying?? I doubt if u read wot moyes sed. Forget about rooney's supposed reaction.who cares?? I'm talking about wot moyes sed. Hw did d media manipulate moyes' comments??

bxg: Wtf Rooney and iniesta in the same sentence i give up on you .......Let rooney carry is country to the european championship

dademola: wen u start insinuating dt fergie cld hav lied, derz no use continueing d arguement. Ts now obviuos u're a rooney fan, and not a man utd fan.

Fabville: So what you are saying is that he doesn't know how to read so as to give proper interpretation and understanding to what David Moyes said. He should rather believe what the press are said. This is absurd!

bxg: Now ur comparing rooneys perfomances to iniesta ......ur obssesion with rooney is now tiring maybe you shldnt talk for a while

coogar: wenger once wanted adebayor, adebayor must be a world class player. jose once wanted claudio pizarro, he must also be better than pele. you are just grasping at straws!

every united striker has scored hatricks....berbatov, tevez, chicharito, yorke, ruud, van persie, etc have all scored hatricks so what's the biggie?

man utd's 4th highest scorer? he's spent 9 seasons at old trafford. he's the longest serving striker in recent times so what has that gotta do with him being great. his international record means shyte - when has he ever done it at the main stage?

berbatov n hernandez have a better goal ratio for their respective countries! that he's england's number one striker says much more about england than rooney. if rooney was born in spain, he would have been a goalie!

coogar: elampiro, when rooney leaves, you can follow him wherever club he wishes to join. i'm sure you have rooney's nüde posters on your wall! your obsession with rooney is bordering on homoeroticism!

coogar: telling the truth does not take me time. you continue to peddle myths about rooney when we all know he's the laziest striker we have ever had.

Fabville: So he is an illitrate who can't read simple English language about what DM actually said. Why has he refused to come out and pledge his loyalty to the club and accept that he has fitness issues that he will work on with the coach (DM)? If he had done this all this tension would have been diffused. Diplomatically, he even doesn't need to address SAF's issue about whether he asked to leave Man Utd and all will die down.

In law they say "Silence means consent". Is that not so? I believe he wants to leave and that is the reason why he hasn't come out to speak.

Fabville: A whole lot of what i wanted to say have been said by fellow forum members but what i want to add is that when he (Rooney) too had his goals drought in those two periods in Man Utd shirt, why was he not dropped to the bench? So if you are a coach and your best and fit striker goes through a goals drought, will you drop him to the bench because of that? I can see that you are a very good coach.

However, Rooney was dropped after Everton match because he wasn't fit enough and this directly affected his performance in the match. He was just losing possession anyhow. He first sort out his fitness issues before even considering ever gaining his position back.

Rooney never played didn't score any goal from any deeper in EPL role as you claimed. All the goals he scored were from either as an attacking midfielder of or from the wings.

You are talking about RVP's assist not being enough. His contributions as assist is still okay because a main striker is meant to be assisted.

dademola: pls explain hw d media manipulated moyes' comments.

dademola: anger?? Over wot?? Dt fergie lied?? Or dt d media misquoted fergie?? Pls explain

chrisley024: I believe the statements from Wood and Moyes were made for Rooney to buckle up, perform better and earn his place, instead he prefers following the media and his advisors.

Emperoh: Unfortunately you will keep making excuses. I haven't even narrowed this down.
There is always an agreement between an employer and an employee. Once a party to the agreement doesn't deliver, it calls for a review. That is business!

coogar: some goals are meaningless - cantona did not score many goals with us but every goal he scored was important. an equaliser, a winner, etc. that's the difference!!!



they were playing at home, they had to win. apples and oranges!



if we didn't score at white hart lane, spurs would have been happier to see the game out as 0-0 instead of bombing forward to get a goal. at 1-0, they were in a losing position already with nothing to lose. it either ends 2-0 or 1-1. luckily for them, it was the latter.



yet again, apple and oranges. united were the home team unlike the game at the etihad where the home team is always expected to perform better than the away team. your analogies are way off the mark!

coogar: there are meaningless goals in a match.....city wouldn't have scored 2 goals if we weren't leading 2-0 in the first half. it's a mind thing - when your opponents score, the minimum requirement is to equalise especially when you are the home team!!!



berbatov is the toughest player to dispossess - you either foul him to get the ball or kill him to get the ball. he guards it better than anyone in the league and his technique controls the ball in such a way that his markers can't get the ball from him.

rooney lacks this quality!

Emperoh: There is something we all need to understand; the relationship between an employer and an employee

My boss once sacked someone and when asked why, despite all the guy's done for the company. He asked us, "did he do it free of charge? We negotiated his pay based on what he's to do for us. The organisation is not a charity. The relationship is symbiotic and also no one is indispensable. He stopped delivering the goods (doing his work)at the agreed quality which means he's not cheating us. we allowed this to tally for a while giving room for where we may have also lapsed but after 6 months, we felt we needed to find out what is happening. he stated he was being over-worked and that he's delivered the goods but that the compensation needs to rise if we are to keep him and for him to deliver at the level agreed. The Board thought about it, analysed the company's bottom line in relation to what he does for us and agreed to top his pay. Strangely, this has been a decline. But we can't continue allowing this happen. So we asked him to go so we can seek a replacement".

Now was the company at fault? What sort of relationship exists here? Can you apply this to the United situation in relation to Wayne Rooney?

coogar: what do you mean by nothing new? there was little or no pressure when rooney got the first 2 goals. city then equalised and the tide of the game changed. RVP delivered in the dying minutes to win us precious 3 points and you are here chatting patois! cometh the hour, cometh the man goals are more valuable than just scoring goals that are meaningless!



what's the meaning of strong on the ball? who's more likely to keep the ball between berbatov and rooney? welbeck keeps it better than rooney. rooney is always the first to lose the ball. his football brain is nothing to write home about.....

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