₦airaland Forum

dprinz99:
So u r her church spiritual brother or school brother?
Brotherly!!!
Stop sugar coating
That relationship is irritating
Wait until she introduces you to her friends and sure,they ll be calling you UNCLE,maybe then you will understand that u r too old for her.

different strokes for different people. well, u may not understand him, but you don't have d moral right to judge him.

Deadlytruth:
Igbos started it all by preaching "One-Nigerianism" prior to independence when all evidences actually pointed to the contrary.

did d ziks n co force anyone in their one nigeria propagation? did anyone kill any northerner to accept one nigeria when they initially rejected it? if no,then why will the same people who initially objected to the notion nw turn round to kill to in order to uphold it?

AnanseK:
Ask your people to go back and build the nation of their dream, Biafra the land of milk and honey. Why are they wasting time. All the northern youths are doing is supporting your Biafra project. What's wrong with guys ? There is absolutely no reason to fight anybody and no one is advocating for violence. Please go, Biafra needs you.

you r wrong! d intentions of d arewa is to blackmail d ipobs to surrender. should d igbos abandon their properties n come to d east,n d fg refuse to grant them referendum,they will lose all. it happened in 1967.

ebosed:
No. It was Emeka Nzogwu that caused that one. Not only hate, he killed all Northern leaders, killed Akintola's and Okotiebor but speared all SE leaders.

d said nzeogwu is from what state? delta?! then hate a people for d action of a man who exercised his own opinion?

[quote author=mrskillz post=59193603][/quote]was it same provocation that caused d jos riot of 1945 and d 1953 at kano,that led to d death of predominantly ibos at sabon gari,even though d northern youths' anger was towards d yorubas?

BabaAduras:
Which country are you talking about? The Nigeria you want to break to pieces I presume.

You will blame PMB for anything. Even if fail to fart, you will blame PMB for it. Is it PMB that told you to demand for Biafra? You ask for Biafra, Arewa youths say, leave our land and go and form your Biafra in Igboland. What is the wahala there? Or are you expecting them to be begging you to continue to be part of Nigeria? The Arewa message is clear and simple, leave the North if you don't want to be part of Nigeria.

Be careful what you ask for. As you have the right to demand Biafra, so the remaining Nigerians have the right to tell you to leave Nigeria.

at your age nw,these r all that your thought processes could produce?!your lil mind could not tell you that it is baseless for the arewas to give quit notice to d igbos with threat of life. the arewas blew their chance to show the world that they r civilised by advising the govt to give d igbos referendum so that this issue of agitation could be solved once n for all. no,rather they want to blackmail those agitating by using soft targets. it is shameful!

Alcatraz001:
It is just the way the igbos are. Please read there was a country by Chinua Achebe. There was a chapter where he aptly described the Igbo as having this unnecessary hubris. I guess it is what makes them who they are. And it draws undue hate and resentment from others. What can we do? This is the same thing that has impeded them from ascending the throne of Presidency in Nigeria and threatens to deny them the highest office in the land if votes are to be cast.

Nigerians tire for their matter abeg.

and what is that unnecessary hubris? that they love money? or that they love calling others names,,or is it that they kill others incessantly? truth is,whatever the igbos have done,it is never equal to the hate others have meted on them. for example,etymologically,lets agree that a few set of people from the igbo extraction carried out the first coup, n crop of them taunted the sympathisers of the victim, was that enough reason for the pogrom on the larger igbos? or the biafra war that took place resulting in millions of deaths simply cos ojukwu chose to secede? i need you to tell me what exactly the unnecessary hubris of the igbos that will warrant people like with conscience to deny them indigenous right to self determination,the franchise to be elected into d presidency, presence of federal infrastructure,etc?

Amberon11:
And you think I'm against Biafra? Lol, just go alone and leave my beloved Niger delta alone, simple.

if you r not against biafra,then stop antagonising them. if anything u n ur ilk should push for referendum for them so that the issue of agitation can be settled once n for all. nb. i am a biafran,from obunagah community,gbarain kingdom,yenega lga,bayelsa.

Opakan2:
That's to show you how foolish people from that side are..

They stayed put in the North after their son killed Northern elites and were rejoicing on the streets of that same North. If na you, wetin you go do them? No lie o

You can't just help but hate their guts.

if it pains u,u go after d killers n not some hapless individuals,u slowpoke! killing people simply cos they taunt n provoked u, is barbaric,

Yyeske:
5% is not a hate speech, calling for killing of people is which you and I know Nnamdi kanu and IPOB miscreants always wished for

u fail woefully at ur attempts! if five person is not a hate,what else is?

Yyeske:
Preach it bro, I'll say it as I feel. Go get your referendum and leave the north before October 1st.
You support hate, you get hate

was ken saro wiwa killed for hate speech? he was killed simply for speaking the truth! do you think u hate ipob only for the hate speech?the truth is,,no! it is the truth u hate!

Alcatraz001:
Does it look like I care about you and your friends? I don't like igbo and so do millions of Nigerians. Deal with it!

but why is that so?

Alcatraz001:
Not that you deserve my response but sorry, I am a Christian. Not only Muslim Nigerians dislike you, Christians too are not so fond of Igbos. Bye.

and why is that so? is it cos d ipob lots called ur kinds animal in zoo?! what exactly is the reason for the hate on ipob and igbos?

Yyeske:
You forgot to warn IPOB miscreants and Nnamdi kanu that their name calling and hate will harm other Igbos outside Igboland

but common sense should tell you that it is wrong of anyone to harm d igbos resident in the north for the action of a man agitating down east. nothing justifies that! if they are angry with nk,they should make itopen n confront him.

Alcatraz001:
So you really think majority of Nigerians like the igbos? Common! Don't lie to yourself and the generality of forumites we have online real time. Igbos deliberately boxed themselves into a corner over the years with hate speeches because they lost an unnecessary war which has nothing to do with this generation. I didn't grow up hating the igbos myself but it grew on me gradually till it fully crystallized in the Jonathan administration when Igbo's bared their fangs for the yoruba tribe(my tribe).

It is nothing personal, just a reciprocal gesture.

why do other nigerians hate the igbos?

Amberon11:
Did King Pharoah tell israelites to go and they refused to go ?

Dont even yourselves unto the israelites. Arewa has asked yall to go but you cried instead. Israelites also never at any point tried to coerce other peoples lands (like y'all are trying to steal Niger Delta lands) while being freed.

by every word of antagonism u make towards biafra,u become less responsible to be called a rational being. this is because there is no deductive argument you can give as an opposition to the biafra pursuit.

RosaConsidine:
But this is basically considering man's sins against God....but what about man's sin against his fellow man? What blood has to be/is/has been shed for the remission of those sins?

u must understand that what Jesus blood represent in its true meaning is luv and not some physical blood pouring out from a cut. He sacrificed his ego,to show luv. likewise, when a man forgives his fellow man, he simply sacrifice his ego( to claim right), his hurt and desire for vengeance. such man chose peace!

plessis:
you're not okay at all.... It's clearly stated in the Bible that Jesus was killed for blasphemy and treason.... Two choices, argue against it or ignore the post....

But no, you decided to prophecy into my life because you're logically inept...


Take your emptiness elsewhere... I have no cure for it...

So,are u also accusing Jesus on those lines? do u accept that Jesus committed treason and deserved the punishment? Cos,it is an established fact that the manner in which Jesus trial took was in contrast to a fair one even in the standards of the time. if u were observant, u would know that Jesus was not sentenced based on any conviction of crime, but merely on the ground of entertaining a crowd which chose a confirmed thief in the person of barnabas over Jesus for release.

MaziOmenuko:
Yet no one outside the Christian faith can actually testify seeing him? You actually believed that the entire world wouldn't contain books written about his acts which was just less than a week after he supposedly resurreted yet his works for his entire 33 yrs b4 dealth was contained in just 4 books of mat mark Luke and John?

Did Jesus ever appear to u like a politician who needs lots of biographies to validate Him? Mind you, Jesus even rebuked his disciples from disclosing those things he has taught them and they know about him till the appointed time. Again,looking at the folks he moved with,most were not the regular first class citizens who are literate enough to keep a tab on him; even who would write stuffs about a man the State sees as a nobody.

neocortex:
The gurads didn't lie, they stated what happened which is that
the zealot follower of jesus took the body away. It is more likely
that the disciples will bribe the guards than the chief priest bribing them
because they have more to lose if the body remained in the tomb.

poor reasoning! so,if u were to b among d guards,u will accept bribe from d disciples,huh?! There is no way any body can refute the claim of Jesus resurrection! ordinarily, train soldiers could not have all slept off on duty for any disciple to come steal Jesus body,considering that it is an order. And again,they could not have taken any bribe from the disciples, being that the assignment at hand is more important than any amount of money; their lives are on stake. who are the disciples to have such influence on the guards to release his body?

MrMontella:
I believe in God...just not your god.
logic supersedes books bro.

lol. if only ur belief system is determined solely by ur observed facts! i fit bet sey ur faith now was influenced 99% by others and not ur logic! truth is, u r brainwashed, likewise me.

MrMontella:
what do you mean easier?
it's the simple truth Na.

it's a force ooo.. not a being or spirit as per; task.

looks like i am chatting with gravitational voice, or could u please convince me u are human n not some force,cos i find it hard believing the former since i can't see,feel,or touch u?

nanizle:
"different versions of a product exist" This is the first time I am hearing this line of argument

I'd like to understand you better. Are you implying that the various religions we have are just different fake versions of one original version?

when the children of Israel lost patience to wait for Moses and went about making the golden calf to worship, it was the same concept-they needed someone to save and lead them! The very essence of believing in god or not is the same-everyone wants their fears removed.

MrMontella:
gravity, All things in space spin ,/spin on their axis.
gravity conserves the momentum by revolving the earth around a larger body with a greater pull of gravity.

it's easier fpr u to say gravity,like u gave it d task to do wat it does

MrMontella:
go and learn what a TRUE SACRIFICE is/means.

What is a true sacrifice to u? As a good parent, will u tell ur child that he or she has the freedom to do any wrongdoings,that they already got ur forgiveness? Jesus paid the sacrifice knowing fully well that as humans we r bound in sin, buh that those who will recognise their limitations and allow him to lead their lives, already got forgiven their past demeanors!

MrMontella:
the bible is a collection of human written books.

Is it not the same human written books u have been reading? Dis ur belief in non existence of God is it not influenced by the so called logical and intellectual works of mere men like u that gave u d conviction?

MrMontella:
if Jesus came as a final and perfect sacrifice for sin, and yet after his sacrifice, sin still is in abundance and relative to punishment, then he failed woefully

You lack understanding! Jesus is only standing as the atonement for the sins already committed(which the sinner duly recognised and repented of), and not sin anticipated.

nanizle:
@OP the earlier you wake up from your delusions the better for your well being. You'll live a more peaceful life if you leave religion... No demons to be afraid of, no mammy water to fear, no hell to be terrified of, no 10% religion tax.

Religion is playing a lesser role in developed societies, the same societies that shoved their religion down our fore-fathers throats and made them abandon their traditional religion while enslaving and colonizing them.

Now you are here carrying Christianity like it's your birthright.

Try study a bit of history and religion and you'll see that religion is simply a man-made tool with the sole purpose of to controlling the masses... to tell you what to do without question and to profit those at the helm of affairs. Religion achieves this by majorly instilling fear on followers. Threatening fire and brimstone for those who disobey and promising "heaven and everlasting life" if they obey.

But I do understand where you're coming from. You're coming from a position of being heavily and mercilessly indoctrinated leading to your delusions, so much indoctrination that you believe that all those who don't believe what you believe (muslims, jews, hindus, traditionalists, atheists etc... yep all of them, billions of them ironically created by the same God) are destined for eternal suffering in a lake of fire.

The even more ironic thing is that your fellow religions believe the same ridiculous thing.. eternal damnation for unbelievers.

So who will make the so called "heaven"? (this reminds me of one thread... I'll try find it).

Whose religion is true and which is false? (spare me your biblical quotes as your fellow religions to have similar quotes, equally infallible)

All religions can't be obviously right at the same time. So you see it would be reasonable that they are all wrong.

u r talking about indoctrination as if u r left alone, r u not also brainwashed to believe that there is no God? Is ur conviction not borne out of what u read from others,or u mean to tell me that they are solely a result of your experiences? Don't ever think that your resolution not to believe in God makes u more intelligent than those who do! Mind you, your entire knowledge about d universe is only but a tire grain of sand in d beach of sands, so don't get yourself too excited!

nanizle:
@OP the earlier you wake up from your delusions the better for your well being. You'll live a more peaceful life if you leave religion... No demons to be afraid of, no mammy water to fear, no hell to be terrified of, no 10% religion tax.

Religion is playing a lesser role in developed societies, the same societies that shoved their religion down our fore-fathers throats and made them abandon their traditional religion while enslaving and colonizing them.

Now you are here carrying Christianity like it's your birthright.

Try study a bit of history and religion and you'll see that religion is simply a man-made tool with the sole purpose of to controlling the masses... to tell you what to do without question and to profit those at the helm of affairs. Religion achieves this by majorly instilling fear on followers. Threatening fire and brimstone for those who disobey and promising "heaven and everlasting life" if they obey.

But I do understand where you're coming from. You're coming from a position of being heavily and mercilessly indoctrinated leading to your delusions, so much indoctrination that you believe that all those who don't believe what you believe (muslims, jews, hindus, traditionalists, atheists etc... yep all of them, billions of them ironically created by the same God) are destined for eternal suffering in a lake of fire.

The even more ironic thing is that your fellow religions believe the same ridiculous thing.. eternal damnation for unbelievers.

So who will make the so called "heaven"? (this reminds me of one thread... I'll try find it).

Whose religion is true and which is false? (spare me your biblical quotes as your fellow religions to have similar quotes, equally infallible)

All religions can't be obviously right at the same time. So you see it would be reasonable that they are all wrong.

u r talking about indoctrination as if u r left alone, r u not also brainwashed to believe that there is no God? Is ur conviction not borne out of what u read from others,or u mean to tell me that they are solely a result of ur experiences?

hilaomo:
Open your company then and employ indigene when no qualify to head am just cause them be indigene.

i hope u will be glad to give out your land to such companies, only to watch your children stay jobless while foreigners take the available spaces because they are more qualified? What happened to organising skill acquisition programs,scholarships and every other needful things that will make the hosts feel the the dividends of their collective resources? By tomorrow now when that company leaves the community, they will have nothing to show for! is that okay?

edoboy33:
stop painting a good image of the militants ...most militants in the Niger delta today are not after good policies and curtailing the severity of environmental degradation but after money
most militants now want to be a tompolo or a ayiri emami

If the oil companies are sincere on their parts and keep to MOU's they enter with host communities and give no room for any agitations, i promise u,there is no son of the soil who will raise gun and will not be shouted down by the larger masses! Besides,these companies (with govt support) have all the apparatus to match up with the militants, especially the political side of the game!

edoboy33:
I know president osinbajo is trying to appease the raging rage of the Niger delta no wonder his recent visit to the region but relocating headquarters is no good idea the Niger delta militant might just take advantage of it if you know what I mean

MODIFIED
I THINK IF SUFFICIENT SECURITY IS PROVIDENT PROVIDENT THE COMPANIES CAN BE RELOCATED

it is d best idea so far! let them all relocate to their state of operation. These companies in the bid to short-change host communities have been in the habit of sowing greed among selected few to perpetually keep the larger masses from benefiting from the dividends of their collective resources. For example, in my community,Obunagha in Bayelsa State,Shell and other affiliate companies are in such habits. a member of the management has at a point tried to bribe my uncle so that he will cause confusion in the family! These companies also don't keep to MOU's they enter with host companies,they would rather spend on few greedy folks who will sabotage the community. We keep on blaming militants, but we fail to understand the etymology of militancy. The insincerity of these companies is the cause of all security threats as regards militancy. God willing, Shell will hear from me for all the pains they are putting my family through!