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Nezzjnr:
Most Farmers don't know about it yet.... .

I said the same thing on a Facebook page... The Admin kicked me out because he felt i was misleading the Group members

Lol. Imagine a cucumber plant above 12 weeks and still thriving and fruiting and bringing out new branches. It must be the additional nutrients from these fertlizers especially SSP and mop that is assisting.

Farmerakinloye6:
Another harvest today..I took this picture earlier today, if a Gardner tell me he achieve 15-20 fruit per stand, no cap! I will believe because I know he will have the time to care for it. This is two stand and I had already harvested at least 4 fruit from each.

Look for parthenocarpic variety and the yield might even be more.

Nezzjnr:
Applying Manure and Ssp in the middle of the beds just like the way of Applying Akara to Bread.

If you do this... Your Cukes will Thank you very well.

Farmerakinloye6 have you tried this out yet??

I posted about SSP fertlizer on a WhatsApp forum and I was challenged by the owner of the group that it was not relevant to cucumber. I couldn't believe my ears.�
SSP fertlizer is the foundation for all crops as it has 20% phosphorus, 18% calcium and 11% sulphur.
I don't post much as I do formally due to a lot of ignorant folks online who think they know all about farming. We learn everyday.

My next cucumber must have 40 fruits by fire by force�

dondo83:
The price has changed .. you need to reconfirm please

I will confirm this week

dondo83:
Do you still have this egusi ?

It's available in the market

Lokoja price 100kg bags

Maize new 19,000
Millet new 22,000
Guineacorn old 28,000
Egusi 100kg lafia type 20,000

Nezzjnr:
So Urea can be Fertigated??

Yes. Very water soluble. Though plants love a combination of nitrate and urea for best results.

flowmama:
Boss, SSP not soluble. Same phosphate makes it difficult to fertigate NPK easily, it won't just dissolve.
Calcium Nitrate, Potassium Nitrate, Mg sulphate, these can dissolve

It's error. Disregard. SSP fertlizers are not water soluble and are mostly used before transplanting as the phosphate is immobile in soil. It's mostly used by the side dressing method or basal application before the plant is even transplanted.

Nezzjnr:
I'm still trying to Learn that Fertigation through drip... Won't it block the Drip??

It depends on the quality of fertlizer. If you use those blended fertlizers mixed with soil, it will block it. Go for water soluble fertlizers like urea, mop, sop, granular npk and also ensure they are from good brands like Tak agro, Notre or Dangote, etc.

fiddzy:
ok sir, so if I am correct this maxi npk can be used for both fertigation and side dressing. I am looking at making use of venturi fertilizer injector.

It can be used for fertigation and side dressing

Nezzjnr:
You can also Spray that Maxi potassium Nitrate
5 tablespoons per 16L Knapsack

That 5 tablespoons is about 75g per 16 litres which I consider too high for foliar spraying. Fertigation is safer than foliar spraying for that concentration though not advisable. Go with 1 full tablespoon per 20 litres.

fiddzy:
pls I will like to get your clarification on this 5g per stand, do you calculate your plant population and dissolve in water times the 5gram each and fertigate, or u just measure on a spoon n apply near plant for water to Dissolve it into the soil thanks.

5g per plant is applying into the soil usually in two weeks interval.
If you fertigate, you cannot apply more than 15g per every 20 litres water except you want to burn your crops. 10g per 20 litres water is usually recommended.
The difference between fertigation and side dressing is that fertigation is very fast for plant uptake compared to side dressing but it cannot be applied in lump sum as the other guy advised.

fiddzy:
sir?

He may not have the answer as I think he has not planted it before. That number is too small in yield for Mydaz except you don't know what you are doing.

See this link for modest results from iita open field in the southwest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dr-bbV68W9c

I still even have an old Mydaz cucumber and Colombia watermelon plant more than 12/16 weeks old with about 7 upcoming cucumber fruits on it and still even flowering in my compound.

I may document my next plants including Diva F1 tomato and Maradona f1 papaya from east west, Mydaz RZ F1 and Colombia RZ f1

Farmerakinloye6:
additive as in? It 13:0:46 potassium nitrates by jubaili.

fiddzy:
bozz can this be used for tomatoe, or potassium chloride us better.

No micronutrients.
www.farmsquare.ng/shop/maxi-k-soluble-potassium-nitrate-fertilizer-25kg/

Nitrates such as above are more expensive than chlorides MOP 0:0:60 because of the salt content.

FarmTech:
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Some insecticides will persist and kill bees for weeks. Eg Chlorpyrifos, dimethoat etc. It is better to stick to safer ones like lambdacyhalothrin, Abamectin, neem oil, emmamectin etc

Lambda cyhalothrin should have a longer residual action. It does not have odour that's all but its more potent than the more smelly fumigant organophosphates like chlropyrifos and ddforce.

Lanjonath:
Lmao..Make I no talk. My fertilization regime is way more advanced than this. Only way you'll get 20 fruits is if you're harvesting small cukes in open field.

You're right, shade net will definitely increase its yield.

With all the advancement, you still get same result as people using only npk with greengo and jorad? Then why waste your time and money with these extra fertlizers and expensive seed brand?

jidestroud:
Feeds: Hybrid Super Starter
Drugs: Just water for now (Lasota was administered on day 10 though)

From experience, things that can cause watery stool at a tender age include
1. Too much heat in brooder
2. Feed. If the protein content is too high or bad feed or poorly formulated feed or bad batxh
3. Diarrhea, Onset of coccidiosis or cholera due to bad liter management or hygiene or even disease from hatchery.

An anticocci/antibiotics like vitacox should do the work. If using organic, I have no idea.

jidestroud:
12 days of age.

That should point to diarrhoea/dysentry. What feed/drugs are you administering now?

jidestroud:
@emmaachile2

Oga boss, any solution to excessive wet litter in broilers? The matter don taya me biko. I will most definitely welcome any suggestions now.

What's the age?

dondo83:
Oga boss I have quoted you twice with my email this is the third time , please reply I need need some mentoring, I’m not sending money to anyone to buy items for me , I want to learn the ropes as well.. it’s obvious the op isn’t interested in that . He just wants you to buy through him alone . Kindly send me your number in my email please ceegee22000@yahoo.com .. note I’m not asking you to spoon feed me as I’m a busy man as well.. I just need guidance and advises once in a while thank you

Olaleyeabdullah:
Updated price of cucumber

Lokoja is 6000 per bag retail from the sellers.

Olaleyeabdullah:
I applied the same laraforce gold in the evening and it affected the bees. I probably did not get the concentration right tor. Anyone here have an Idea of the right concentration?

It's 30ml per 15l sprayer

zxcvbnmlkjhgfds:
Thanks.

Laraforce is available here.

What's the best time to apply it in order to reduce the effects on pollinators?

In the evening

zxcvbnmlkjhgfds:
Good morning.
I need recommendations for insecticides that can be used against whiteflies and aphids.

Thanks.

Get Renova 5g (Thiamethoxam 25% WG) or Laraforce Gold or even Laraforce (Lambda cyatholin) and use weekly in a row. It should clear all insects from the farm.

jidestroud:


The price is currently off the charts. I was stunned today when I went to get some broiler super starter bags; imagine the price going as high as N6,200 from N5,600.

The price is very low. New hope feed is between 7500-7900 for broiler starter.

abouzaid:
but the total cost of the fertilizer would be higher than buying an already blended NPK mix?

This is what cucumbers needs at almost all stages. How do you get this from a blended fertlizer?

ideepaul:
So sorry, I am bothering you alot these days, but now you are back, lemme learn a bit from you sir
Have you thought about mixing your own fertilizer in the ratio needed or met individuals who have done them successfully, eg mixing MOP,SSP, and UREA to get a better version of the NPK at your plant specific needed ratio, not for storage o, but immediate usage, and maybe with a little bit of the other special grade fertilizer like borax for optimal results? I suspect some of the fertilizers I buy in my state are totally adultrated, and some stay more than 6months - 2yrs without dissolving and with no observable plant growth, especially the TAKAGRO sold here, I have seen the same TAKAGRO brought in from a neighboring state dissolve faster and with improved performance

That's what I did. Mix in the proportion I wanted to use.
For example to get a blooming npk version, for every 1g of SSP (0:20:0), I used 0.7g of NPK (20:5:10) and 0.5g of MOP(0:0:60).
That's gives 14:25:35 (5:8:12) formula which is very good for tomatoes and pepper family.

For cucumbers, I will increase the NPk to 1g giving 20:25:35 (7:8:12) formula.
I noticed Mydaz RZ F1 cucumbers and Colombia watermelon could even take up to 45g fertlizer per plant at adulthood without a burn. It's impossible on peppers but manageable with tomatoes. Meaning every plants needs are different.

Urea is advised not to be mixed with any other fertlizer before application except you are using it immediately. The only advantage of Urea with the MOPs is the precise formula you can get from the formula as the three fertlizers Urea 46:0:0; SSP 20% 0:20:0 with calcium 18% /Sulphur at 11% and MOP 0:0:60 all have 1 major nutrient.
This is easier formulated than using NPk in the formula.

Nastolly:
At idee, I tot this platform is made to put people through what they don't no or understand, if u can't answer pls leave the comment section pls. Before you became a professional u are, u were once a learner

That size is too much for a beginner. That is what he is saying.

FarmTech:
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Thanks. Do they waybill it to you? If yes, for how much?

I bought with agro chemicals like funguforce gold and cabri duo but waybill was 10,000.
I bought the tak agro brand of fertlizers outside magnesium sulphate because there are generally very good.

FarmTech:
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How much do u buy SSP 20%, MOP 0:0:60 and magnesium sulphate. and where?

SSP 50kg N10,500
Mop 0:0:60 50kg N19,150
Magnesium Sulphate 25kg N19,850
I bought from Abuja through htsfarms

abouzaid:
Where do you guys get all these fertilizers? i can't even get NPK 15:15:15 at the local market.

Where is your location? Most agric ministries will have npk at least or agrodealer around.

ideepaul:
oga emmaachile2, what I meant to ask is if you have any idea about the practical bacterial wilt tolerance of kilele and gamhar...I made some mistakes while typing and it blurred the whole question, also any info on open field commandant F1 bell or any better bell pepper cultivar you know sir

I have not cultivated those cultivars myself but there are debate on their bacterial wilt tolerance. Some farmers argue that there are some resistance to bacterial wilt because when planted with the local variety, the locals all wilted when these other hybrids were not affected in the height of the rainy season.

What I know is that most hybrids that are very tolerant have small fruits I learnt from a sakata representative.
But there are brands known for true bacterial wilt such as East West and Sakata.

Lanjonath:
Mydaz is big and dark green, but you won't get 20 fruits per plant in open field sha. 91-95cukes should fill a bag

You will get 20 average fruits if you follow the right schedule in open field. The fertlization is twice a month with a minimum of 15g-30g fertlizer per plant. We used npk 20:5:10 with zinc as trace, SSP 20%, MOP 0:0:60 and magnesium sulphate.
I tested this with my colleagues in 50 growbags in Lokoja at the height of the heat in March/May
We mixed the fertlizers according to the stages with a formula for blooming flowers @ 4 weeks after transplanting at npk 20:25:35 with a magnesium sulphate foliar spray of 2grams per litre twice a month.
I believe with a shadenet of 50% UV, you will even get more.

abouzaid:
haven't decided yet, the land is still under cassava, would want a small sachet of seeds to try out.

I don't think I have Mydaz cucumber seeds anymore but I will check. If available, I will alert you here.
You should a variety in mind. I have programs schedule for Mydaz RZ F1 and there is a crop guide from east west for cucumbers too.

The schedule for each variety is different but similar. Mydaz F1 produces average of 20 fruits per plant and can't be compared to other varieties with less than 10 fruits averagely. The fertlization /spray program will definitely be different.