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Butterflyleo:
See petty and fickle words from this one

It hurts emmanystone but somehow you carry hurt around to pass it on to others. Dude if this were the case, nobody can give what they do not have.

Your plan is to spread hurt around to as many as possible by constantly declaring that Yahweh is imaginary and this shows that you are hurting.

What you have is what you give. You cannot give yam when what you have is fish. You are hurting so wish for others to be hurting along with you

However your pain and hurt remains with you daily because the more you try to spread hurt, the bigger Christianity grows and this hurts you even more so you try harder by bumping old threads, jumping like a toad all around nairaland like your father the devil seeking for whom to devour and threads to book space on so you can quickly post what you think would hurt people

Even when you do so all you still get are looks of pity from people and not hurt. Because all they see is a lost soul crying out for help.

Your pain, your headache.

His pain, his headache indeed.

TrajansKong:
Stop.

You are not 4 years old. You are a legal adult. Demons are not real. You are. 'Curses' cant be brought on any land, but your feeble-minded slavish cowardice can.

If you genuinely believe what you claim (and I doubt this strongly), you are a perfect example of our hopeless, inferiority-complexed, fear-driven, slowpoke-masses.

You can never be saved by outside or higher powers. Knowing this, you perish inwardly and outwardly minute by minute, every day.

Please leave Africa alone with your foolishness...

...and stop trolling...

Lord should i respond to this 24/7days 365 days round the clock satan worshiper? No.
So, pls shift. If you were a lil close to the light, we could talk. You know not what you say, or pretend not to know, either way, Gerarahia.

Butterflyleo:
This is the thread

https://www.nairaland.com/3930181/second-debate-strictly-between-hopefullandlord

He ran from that thread in tears but was quick to hand the debate over to johnydon because his raw behind was exposed with some lashes

Thank you sir. He says am hurt becos he says there's no God.

I see, this is why they keep saying this, they believe it hurts the Christians. Oh wow. Bhuhahahahahahahahahaha. Wow wow wow. Lukat dat

CuteMadridista:
apparently it does hurt you every time, you sound hurt which makes you lie that I only say that about your imaginary friend. you've told this lie many times in the past and I corrected you each time but you seem to either love lying or you possess less intelligence than the average human being. I hope, for your sake, its the former

It hurts me that you say God does not exists but you don't leave nairaland even for a minute? Why are you talking about a non exiting God everyday for the 3+ yrs i've noticed you?

When you post and i take time to reapond you accuse me of taking too long, forgetting we are not all living in nairaland. Make use of your life and allow 'YHWH does not exist rest for just a day'. Can you manage that?
Who is hurt here? Ah it's well o.

Butterflyleo:
Hahahahaha u mean that thread you once pointed out to me where he broke down in tears over a simple debate and wanted to end his nairaland life?

The guy is shameless.

That is it. Now he is here making noise.

Pls can you dig it up again? Let's post it here and see him lie while calling others liars.

CuteMadridista:
Please stop lying, ambassagod presented a non personal non relationship non detectable non testable non verifiable claim and called it god
This I agreed to be agnostic to! Even in the world of science they call such god claims as "Not even wrong" meaning it doesn't even hold anything to be scientific

I know Yahweh does not exist, I've always said this time and again. if it hurts you to hear me call your imaginary friend what it is you're gonna have to keep hurting cuz I'm not stopping unless I stop posting here

You're gonna keep hearing me ridicule your imaginary friend and your religion cuz that's the only sensible use for it

Liar. I was there o. Have you forgotten? You ran away in the page 1 of the thread.
Wait, you believe it hurts me when you call God imaginary? Now i know something is wrong with you for sure.

YHWH is imaginary, but you talk about Him more that i who worships Him. Are you fine?

You spend virtually all your life here talking about a non existent God, yet i am the one who shd be hurt? You are badly hurt because your phoniness can't help even you.

nairaman66:
Bombshell!!

When there was news that Jesus Christ wasn’t born on Christmas Day, people came all out and there was rage everywhere! The pope confirmed this!

Now he has confirmed another one! Hell simple means- Grave, Sepulchre, bottom. Hellfire is a figurative meaning which implies the rage which God will use to punish the wicked ones! This was likened to a place in the Bible which is called the valley of Gehenna!

Tahh, stop the lies.

Pls open a thread just for this and mention me.

Jochabed:
Are you serious? HELL EXIST!!!! He is suppose to be a father figure. Please don't mislead people.

What did you expect the Pope to say? He is Pope.

CuteMadridista:
I reject all gods who's believers claim wants me to know him/her/it/them aka all relationship based gods which include Yahweh, Allah, Vishnu, Olodumare etc. I talk from a position of knowledge to say NONE of those gods exist! and they're all manmade. this is my Claim and my assertion.

This would be the umpteenth time you'll be telling this lie but its okay to lie as long as you're being influenced by the Hole-ly spirit after all your imaginary friend sent lying spirit to Ahab's prophets in your folklore BuyBull maybe he sent one to you too er?

Hopefullandlord. Taah. When Ambasagod (remeber that guy? He almost chased you out of Nairaland. You have to thank your demon he decided he was done with the childishness here) asked you questions about this knowledge about God, what did you do? You shifted grounds quickly from atheism to agnostic-atheism. You didn't know.

Today here you are talking knowledge of the non existence of YHWH are the other demons parading as gods.

OtemAtum:
Ask Yahweh to provide you my surname

Did you ask Otem for mine or you Google it?

Wow, see levels. Google sabi me.

Who know you?

Butterflyleo:
At the words in bold, I posted something about this in February and this was the quote



And this was supported by a research below



https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1376534/

Christians shd be at alert. Satan is coming with so many ways to hurtl us. But, alas, he is a loser. Killing us is translating us to eternity. But, that will not happen on his terms.

Does God exists? Whether as a Spirit or flesh? Lolzzz.

What can we classify a man who calls God flesh as? Imaoo.

Butterflyleo:


Hawkins broke the atheist golden rule.

He believed life to be worth living while atheists nihilistic foundations calls life a waste and totally of no value since we are just a mass of chemicals who live and die. He chose not to die......for many years despite the pains.

He chose to live life like a full vegetable as against dying. I guess life does matter even to a vegetable after all

It bits me that these people can't reason. That man fought death and lived for years, these ones are here moving motions for satanic hateful doctors to kill people. And the law will support them. What if it happens out of malice?

If an atheist can shoot a Christian for being a Christian, why won't any demons possessed man prescribe drugs to kill a Christian even when the case is not so terminal? Haven't we seen terminal cases recovering?

benzics:
Well I personally think euthanasia should be given to only those who are willing to be euthanized and not those incapable of making the decision..

I see nothing wrong in euthanizing someone who is willing to be euthanized.. Just as I see nothing wrong in choosing to end your own life.. It's YOUR life and you should be able to make decisions for yourself...

That being said, if I am ever in a state of serious medical condition that brings me suffering and I see no cure for the condition, I'll gladly request to be euthanized

Good point. That will be your choice, which is good. No one shd make that choice for someone else.

Butterflyleo:
Lmao did anybody here mention God? You need to take your typhoid drugs.

Are humans animals? Should humans be treated as animals?

Maybe you are confused with what you are saying and wish to change the goalpost.

Euthanasia does not require the patients consent but can be ASSUMED to be the best thing for a patient. How can a patient in coma permit a doctor to end his life or do you not k ow that euthanasia entails either unplugging breathing aids (as in the case of patients in coma), deliberately giving the patient an overdoes, or making them breathe in a deadly substance or as in the case of animals, having the necks snapped.

I repeat are humans animals?

Think and talk straight and leave God out of this because my question to you never hinted at God. It hinted at the moral grounds for such.

Would you be willing to be euthanized?

These people can prescribe deadly drugs for Christians out of hate for their God you know?

Satan is working hard. It will be good to ask the religious stance of a doctor before allowing consultation from now henceforth.

Just imagine someone like Frank and Hopefullandlord as Doctors to Emmanystone? Lord No.

benzics:
I think you should blame your God for making people live with illnesses like cancers and all those incurable diseases.

Now to the emboldened: No medical practitioner, institution or just anybody in the medical field would end a patient's life without their(the patients) go-ahead.. Maybe that's what's confusing you. Even euthanasia given to animals need the go-ahead of their various owners... No one would kill a person in comma! Maybe you are mistaking your god for medical practitioners

And did God create disease or it is sin that brought diseases?

You are confused or ignorant. God never created sickness.

benzics:
How is it end time?? Do you know that there are patients suffering from illnesses likened to "a fate worse than death"? What do you think the cure for such is? No option but death to end their endless sufferings... Have you seen one begging for death? I hope you never get to that stage..

Why did your chief atheist evangelist Hawkins live with that terrible pain for 70+ years? Didn't he know about Doctor's assisted suicide?

Butterflyleo:
Of course why expect any less? I made a promise and I will stick to it.

So you endorse suicide?

Glad to see you nail your own coffin repeatedly on nairaland. Much of your quotes which expose your atheistic dark heart is being compiled by me and I will drop them wherever I feel there is a need for it.

Busting your many deceptions and exposing your atheistic dark heart despite how you try to shroud it is what I will always enjoy doing

So keep expecting more.

You call Hopefullanlord an atheist, i call him a demon possessed man. Only YHWH does not exist as far as he's concerned. All other deities are okay.

OtemAtum:
Hik hik hik 1Sharon, Cutemadridista, Ranchoddas, Hahn, Goodmuyis, Vaxx, come and hear something. Our 'sister' is in love with a thief...
Eh eh eh, Yeba...
She's in love with a thief...
eh, eh, eh ... Yeba

You want to know my name?
I'm Victor, I mean my real name. Let me start watching how you guys will try to frame Victor up with lies. Don't check up Otem Victor on Facebook, you won't see that there, okay? cheers

Do you have a surname, a verifiable surname? If you are not a criminal you won't
need to hide your name while you scream out others, as if they shd be ashamed of their names. Hahahaha

When you mention Samuel's name, did you just say Samuel? Did you just mention Anastasia?

Tell us your name. Victor who? Oh wait, you are ashamed of your father's name abi?

vaxx:
you are not ready to learn, let me know when you make up your mind. it is very dangerous to argue with someone who possess zero knowledge of the argument. it is called blind argument.

Not ready to learn Paganism? Wait!!! Not ready to learn the worship if demons. Wonderfullll.

I should come back to the darkness i left off? No way sir. Here i am praying the scales on your eyes falls off.

4kings:
So you're Analice107(aka Anastasia).
Na wa ooo

Otem is really very observant.

Kontinue...

He is driven by jealousy.

FOLYKAZE:
@Emmanystone

This thread is purposely opened for the adherents of ATS to rub mind and exchange knowledge, and those who will to learn about traditional. You have done so well by derailing this long. Can you please leave peacefully and join your colleagues in faith where topic founded on Christianity is the talk? Thanks

We need to warn people from dead. The worship of ancestors, is the worship of demons. Idolatry brings curses on the land. See our country? We are the way we are as a result of the blood that has been offered to satan by you guys.

OUR LAND IS CURSED because OF YOUR ACTIVITIES.

TrajansKong:
Please, stop trolling. Our people are drowning in genocidal self-hatred & wilful ignorance. There's a time for jokes, but not here and not now.

Abeg.

Perhaps you are the joker here. People are evoking demons thereby bringing curses on the land, but here you are talking about jokes.

Why aren't you there saving us from the herdamen?

An atheists said, Christ was invented to keep people from retaliating when unjustly maltreated. Yes, we don't fight back, but what is stopping you? No law binds you, why aren't you out there?

CuteMadridista:
Same nonsense happened on a thread which someone who was having existential crisis opened. The thread turned to atheist/Christian suicide debate from the third post and OP had to abandon his own thread www.nairaland.com/4422525/looking-what-die-hence-theres

I blame those that are responding, if y'all ignored and faced the purpose of the thread this wouldn't have happened. I understand that being called "wretched" and "Invalid" can hurt a bit but its the internet where anything goes

And here is hopefullandlord a suppose atheist who does not believe in gods.

As Water answers to the face, so the deep calls to the deep. If you understand this you will stop pretending you are not a satanist.

vaxx:
[/quote]"If we would listen
to the teachings of Ifa,
we would endure
like our ancestors endured.
If we follow the teachings of Orunmila
we would become reverred elders
like the ancients."

And here is advise for you.
There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.
Proverbs:14:12

The worship of demons may seem right now, but the end, you shall meet your maker, then it shall be too late.

vaxx:
[/quote]They possess legacy which they pass to us that venerate them, it is not about magical power that your bible said jews ancestor possess. Mandela, Thomas Jefferson, Margrethe of the UK are all respective heroes of their time and the nations they represent still venerate them till today

What do you mean by the bolded? How do you possess legacy?
And, i never heard anyone pouring libation to Mandela, or Thomas Jefferson or Moses. And asking them to give them rain, good harvest healing and protection. Only you the ancestors worshippers do. Yet you compare your ancestors with people who were just people and died.

You didn't answer me where your ancestors got the power to give rain or protection from. Oh wait it's legacy right?

vaxx:
[/quote]they are not my ancestors, they are are for the Jews, and they can only be your ancestor if you are of Jewish origin or family, bible ascribe supernatural to their feet, how true it is i do not know. at least Moses was recorded to divide the red sea. that is special power.

But, you compared them to your own ancestors, only these ancestors do not have powers, but yours do. How. Moses divided the Red Sea or God? Lolzzzz.

vaxx:
[/quote]i have answer your postulation above, but let me ask you a question what is culture, define it? you have forgotten the ritual practices in the bible.the splitting of bird bloods and the rest.

Sorry sir, you didn't answer any if my questions. Pls don't jump to something else when we are not done here.
These are the questions again.
1. Do the Jews and Christians ascribe powers to these ancestors? No.
2. Do the Jews/Christians call these men for help? No
3. Do the Jews/Christians see these men as conduit to YHWH? Hell No.
4. Do they pour libation, offer sacrifices, and worship these men? No.

If you have answered them, then point me to them.

vaxx:
[/quote]yes just like our ancestor are not the sole creator

But you do oblations to them. You appease them by sacrificing to them. You evoke them to give to you what only God can give. What does that tell you?

Sir, the spirits parading as ancestors seeking your worship are demons.

vaxx:
[/quote]it is not about any magical power[/b]as you inclined, it is about the legacy this ancestor pass in us, not all ancestors are worthy to be venerated, only those who pass the true legacy are worthy. just like the way our country still remember someone like awolowo and azikwe and pay less attention to someone like abacha.

Sir, you did not answer my queation. You pour libation calling on the ancestors for rain, good harvest, healing, the sun, fertility and the rest. If they don't have thw powers to give you what you ask of them, you won't ask. So, where do they get their powers from, seeing they were men like you and i, and while alive didn't have power.

Keep veneration aside.

vaxx:
[/quote]you are wrong again, [b]ancestors are not equal to GOD, true ancestors are simply heroes who have impact positively in their lifetime before they pass away, i will only become a true ancestor worthy of veneration if i pass good legacy like that of the people of the past. my remembrance will awaken positiveness in them. the legacy of ojukwu is still well emphasized in igbo land.

Why then do you demand from them only what God can do?
And i promised you, no Igbo man can ask the spirit of Ojukwu for rain, now or ever.

vaxx:
[/quote]i am not interested in attacking Christianity, even if you you found it fit to attack my faith due to your ignorance. i will only ask you a question. prove the evidence of Christianity beyond the light of the gospel. the light of the gospel is base on the written hands of men so it is not infallible.

Me. I am the evidence beyond the pages of the Bible. I know who i used to be. When i tell you that serious work has been done in me, believe me.

My attitude, ah. Habits. The things used to without any iota of shame or guilt, i can't do them today.

My life now is the opposite of who i use to be. There are certain character traits i knew i'd overcome, as i see myself rising and falling. But, today, i am solidly free. All by prayers and doing what the Bible says.

Haven't you heard of Prostitutes or Armed robbers repenting? I have seen native doctors repent. Satan worshipers repent and leave everything they knew to do before.

Christianity is not in the pages of paper, it is expressed in our every day life.

vaxx:
[/quote]give me proof not assumptions, i have provided both logical and scientific explanation of reincarnation on my own created topic, go thru it. you are just being unnecessarily ignorant , if i can say. you believe it bcus your bible said it or because your pastor confirm it.

The only thing you know about reincarnation is what the demons have convinced you about and because you don't know who is behind it, you believed.

Demons/familiar spirits attached to family bloodlines are responsible for the reincarnation charade.

Ask yourself this, Why does reincarnation happen only in the Families of those who worship idols? Why not in Christian homes? Have you ever heard a Christian family reporting that their child has memories of a certain great grand father? No. Why not?

If our forefathers come back, they won't only come back to certain families but won't come in some.

vaxx:
[/quote]they are not spirit of the departed forefathers, they are memory of the the departed forefathers ,No power is given to them , it is absolutely wrong information you have learn about true ATR. It is imperative you learn ATR before you attack it, you do not attack the idealogy you knew nothing about, it is called blasphemy. our Ancestors do not make plans to helps us unlike those of you Christianized thinkers waiting on a spook savior, It is the Living that must make the plans. The ancestor role is only to help us carry out the plans we have devised. Only Egu (revered ancestors) can do this; they are distinct from just from any dead person When you venerate their memory, you tap the will and the the power to positively help you.

Which of the memory is called Aja, Aje, Ayao, mawu, Nana buluku, and Egungun?
So you venerate memories, or memories have another meaning in ATR? You are almost sounding like a Catholic here.

Pls quote me rightly, i didn't your ancestors makes plans for you. I said, you call them for help. All the deities i mentioned up there, do certain things (your plans) for you people, Where do they get their powers from?

The Living and the deed, who shd be stronger? The dead? Why?

vaxx:
[/quote]However, if you are venerating cross like you did yesterday for good Friday who was unworthy of being ancestor since he belong to another race, you will introduce negativity in your live. Such an unworthy ancestors will only want to continue their unworthiness. and you will find yourself in a situation like Nigeria people that often celebrate any ancestor (worthy or unworthy) and that is part of the reason they wreck havoc in the country. They venerate character like Jesus and Muhammad and then you should wonder why NIGERIA is so addicted in sending negative signal to the world.

Hahahahahahaha. Imao. Only the dead who remain dead are called and worshipped as ancestors, yeah? Well, Jesus is not dead. He is alive for ever. I don't worship a dead god.

And it is very laughable to say because He is not African He is not qualified to be an ancestor. Hahahahahahaha. So, only Africans have ancestors? Abeg no kill me with laf.

How did Muhammed come in here? You and muhammed serves demons. Allah is satan if you haven't decoded that, then sorry.

vaxx:
[/quote]The modern Africans' rejection of their own ancestor and the embrace of worthless ancestor, is a major reason Blacks are in a downward spiral to self-destruction. so Let us suck on the tit of the ancestor and we will have all the nourishment we need to achieve all our ambitions.

I dont reject my ancestors, just don't worship demons who p
Masquerade as the spirits of my dead relatives. The dead stays dead until Judgment Day. No more, no less.

It ia the deep worship of demons called ancestors that has brought curses on Africans the way they.

God says anyone who worships idols shall be cursed and their generations shall be cursed to the fourth generation, and if the fourth generation continues in idolatry, the curse continues.

Can't you see how wretched witch doctors are? Their children never amounts to anything in life. The ones who try ends up saddled with backwardness and obscurity.

Paganism is African's undoing.

OtemAtum:
Cutemadridista, come and see. Anastasia Ndum has eventually admitted that his lover Samuel Chinedum Ekwueme is a criminal. This is a good development Anas, keep it up.
cc: Ranchoddas, 4kings, Geoworldedu

Lol. Empty mad men making noise.

If he wasn't married, i would gladly marry him. And, you are only jealous of a man you can never come close to being in your 10 life times.

I am not ashamed to be his friend. As a matter of fact, i am proud to be his friend. What are you going to do about it?
That name Ekwueme alone shd give you shivers.

You post my beautiful name like your life depends on it. Again, i say, if your not ashamed of your name post it.

realmindz:
meaning you are a descendant of the Jews, and can you trace your ancestral tree to Abraham?

Yes nah.

OtemAtum:
It's good you're not ashamed of your name, unlike Samuel Chinedum Ekwueme your criminal friend who doesn't want to be identified with his name anymore because of his criminal records. Do you guys still keep in touch?

Since you know us to be close friends, shouldn't you know if we are still in touch?

I'd ve hoped that there's something you can actually do about his criminality. But, alas, just noise.

realmindz:
Interesting, so you are a descendant of Abraham Noah Jacob etc very interesting!

Yes. I am s Seed of Abraham.

And, i asked a question there, pls give me an answer