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alBHAGDADI:
That's the same flimsy excuse my JW colleague at work gave when I brought the subject up to him.

It is now clear to me how much of a cult they are.

@christianfreedo @rottennaija @hairyrapunzel

I went for Evangelism 2 yrs ago and met a man who when i began talking to him, he introduced himself as a Babalawo. They way he said it, he meant to scare me, but instead of being scared, i sat down and took him on so genlty that he didn't know when i led him to Christ.

He said the sinners prayers, before he knew it. He kept asking me, who are you? He asked me that 5times. Who are you that you don't have fear? I told him i represent Jesus, and in Jesus there's no fear. He told me why he kept asking me who I was.

He said, many people had gone to him, but immediately they hear, 'I be Babalawo o, they turn back and leave, but he told me that, instead of leaving, i sat down.

He said countless Jehovah's Witnesses had gone to him, but they turn back and leave as they hear who he was.

The next day, i took a pastor to his shrine, where he lived, before us, he brought out his neck, chain, his hand band and rings and destroyed them before us. He knelt down and was seriously prayed for. Today he is a Christian. I spoke with him today. He will be in church tomorrow.

What are the JW afraid of that they don't confront satan? They wait for territories to be conquered before they come with their kingdom message. I won't be surprised that they will now go to the former Babalawo to preach the kingdom.

Be careful those of you who entertain these people thinking they are serving God. They hate Christians fiercely.

Just imagine the part Festus Keyamo played in Otobo's saga, all because he is a witness and Apostle Suleman is Christian.

Stay away from their energy.

Omuneizzy6:
if really there is anything like heavens and hell fire my dear they will make heaven but they never believe in hell fire at all they said everything will end here so there will be no NL in heaven?

They are materialists as they don't believe in after life. For them, life ends here. Why they go about arguing the Bible with Unserious Christians is what amazes me.

alBHAGDADI:
Mathew 28:19
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:


Did you read the above verse? That was Jesus Christ speaking to his disciples and giving them a great commission. They are to go into all parts of the world and preach the gospel to every human on earth.

Today, the group called Jehovah's Witnesses often pride themselves saying they are the only ones doing that assignment given by Jesus Christ. Whenever they make such statement, they hardly get any objection cos most people have at one time had them knock on their door to preach to them. I also fell for that talk from them which made me see them as the only ones fulfilling Christ's commission. It made me feel bad about folds in Christianity cos I can't recall the last time someone approached me to preach.

Over the years, I've come to realize how much of a falsehood the statement is and how it positions them to reap from where they did not sow.
Where were the JW when Christians were facing challenges spreading the gospel in difficult parts of the world? Do you know the trouble faced by the missionaries who brought Christianity to Africa and even South America? They battled malaria, diseases, voodoo, ritualists, hostile communities, pagan beliefs and culture, wickedness, cannibalism etc. Yet, God helped them succeeded. That's why we have Christianity in Africa and other parts of the world. Did the JW face any of those or were part of those missionaries? NO.

When the missionaries had succeeded in establishing Christianity in major places, the JW now showed up when conditions had become favorable. What they are doing now is going from door to door, trying to convert Christians and turn them to JW. It now becomes nauseating that they are boasting of being the only organization that preaches from door to door. Where was the JW organization when conditions were harsh?

If they really want sensible people to accept their claims, then they should go establish in a ground that is hostile. They should try and establish Kingdom Halls in hostile Islamic countries like Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Pakistan etc. They should go preach from door to door and see if they will last a day. Yet, we have Christian bodies in those countries going through the storm of persecution in those countries.

The Europe where JW are at peace today, do they know what the Catholic Church faced before Christianity could be established there?

So, before a JW boasts to you of how is Organization are the only ones preaching from door to door, let him know that they were never around when conditions were harsh and hostile.

Jehovah's Witnesses don't evangelize unbelievers, they turn ignirant Christians against God.

I asked one once why they don't go to hostile nations for thwir missionary work, he told me that they were not sent to nations that rejects them, but they knock on doors of believers in places that had been won for Christ.

Satan is a lair.

hopefulLandlord:
You agree that both you, Shekau and Vaxx are worshipping the same God?

What is the name of Shekau's God and what is the name of Vaxx's God? Let's start from there.

Ishilove:
And what later happened to this woman?

How old is your elder kid now?

Ishilove:
Lmao!

Mscheeeeew

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Imaoooo.

Ronpet777:
Hahahahaha! Now Frank really wants to teach me how to be a Christian.
U talk like d devil, he is d accuser of brethren. He knws d Bible and quotes it, but unfortunately, he doesn't hv d spirit of God to discern it. D Bible is not a story book. Jesus never destroyed any shrine, he was tolerant until buying and selling was done in d house of God.
U hv no point, u knw absolutely nothing abt being a good Christian .1Cor 2:10 "But God hath revealed them unto us by his spirit: for the spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God. "
How can u claim u knw abt Christianity when u hv not d spirit? U r blind and cannot see beyond ur nose when it comes to deep things of God brother. Stick to ur limits.

Welcome to Nairaland. These are folks who will stand before you claiming they were once good Christians. Lolzzzzzzzzz.

Please put forward the exact scriptures you based this remark on because you, I, we and almost everyone already are speak and sing in intelligible language(s)

I want an exhaustive list of all the translated versions of the scripture. Thanks.

Sis, sister,
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MuttleyLaff:
don't worry sis, at this rate before you'll know,
you too will be fluently speaking the tongue without the need to reach out to Ishilove for interpretation whenever I slide in the lingo

In other words, i shd take a lesson in Yoruba abi? I see. If i begin nack my own here now.

MuttleyLaff:
Sis, it's a statement of fact.
In regards to those present at Corinth, Paul converses in more languages than any of the believers there

I don't know why, but as i'm going into this discussion, i'm losing my peace. Pls let me stop here.

God bless.

MuttleyLaff:
And when you pray,
do not babble on like pagans,
for they think that by their many words they will be heard.
- Matthew 6:7

It has to be said,
babbling that what was practised in the ancient world, which is glossalia, did predate the occurrence of speaking in tongues that happened on Pentecost day.

20th/21st century Christians however,
openly and without any sense of embarrassment, did not only hijack glossalia (i.e. babbling) but took ownership of it,
to pass, as speaking in tongues

The sad thing is, the one thing Jesus Christ warned against, as seen in Matthew 6:7 above, not to do,
is exactly just what Christians have taken a shine and delight to.

stephenmorris, by the way, presented factuals actually and not analysis.

Bros, i think you are mistaking 'Speaking in other Tongues, with Speaking in Tongues'.

Paul was not present in the gathering on the day of Pentecost, but he claimed to have spoken in tongues more than everyone else.

Paul encourages us to speak in Tongues, and to sing in Tongues. When we speak in Tongues, we talk to God, not to Men.

BluntBoy:
But going to your so-called churches has not prevented you people from neglecting yourselves. You assemble for the wrong reasons. Christ wants an active assembly and not a passive one.



What then shall we say, brothers and sisters? When you come together, each of you has a hymn, or a word of instruction, a revelation, a tongue or an interpretation. Everything must be done so that the church may be built up. (1 Corinthians 14:26)

Okay, where is this active assembly nau. It says when we come together, so meeting in Christ Embassy, or Redeem or Winners Chapel is not active assembly abi? It's wen only 2 or three are gathered that it's seen as active abi?

Oga, i think this back and forth is enough. It's obvious you are not a Christian, let us be. Before our Master we stand or fall, not to you or anyone else.

BluntBoy:
Another display of ignorance. Show me Biblical verses that explicitly stated that James was the head of the Church in Jerusalem?

If you are a Christian, you should read your Bible often.

Of it's not explicit stated, and if others kept referring or directing decisions to him, which puts him in leadership position you won't believe it abi?

The Acts of the Apostle is repleted with such cases. Go and do your study.

BluntBoy:
Such ignorance. So, who called you? The Devil? You think your anointing is for you to be listening to Oyedepo and warming the bench every Sunday?

Hahahahahahahahahahaha. You mean in the Church in Jerusalem where James the brother of Jesus was the head, Peter and the other Apostles were bench warmers.

Guy, stick to what you know. You know no jack about Christianity.

BluntBoy:
In the Bible, people met in one another's homes. As long as they are gathered in His name, there you have a Church.

I know that. I mean today, how do we fellowship? The Bible says we should not neglect the Assembly of believers, where are these Assemblies which we today shd not neglect? Or, we shd not fellowship at Ll

BluntBoy:
It has no specific location. It is an assembly of people, not a building that is fixed to a spot.

Where and how do they meet for fellowship? Or they don't fellowship?

BluntBoy:
What is the connection?

See? That's why i said understand concepts before ypu stand to engage others.

The difference between Oyedepo and I, is office. YHWH has called him to that office, i am not. To whom much is given...

BluntBoy:
The one true church which has no brand name. Neither does she have a senior pastor or an earthly founder or a general overseer. The True Church does not segregate believers by separating pastors from other worshippers. She is the bride of Christ, a compilation of living stones, of anointed priests, of saints, of gifted individuals with each one contributing his gift for the edification of all. The True Church is the assembly of God's people who worship the Father in spirit and in truth and not because of blessings or fear of hell. The True Church is active and not passive.

Where is the True Church today? Everywhere two or three believers gather truthfully and sincerely in His name. They don't need to call themselves any fancy name or have a presiding minister over them.

Where is it? As in its location.

BluntBoy:
That is how you fail exams. Simple question and yet you couldn't answer it.

Alright, since you agree that every believer is anointed, why were you quoting OT anointing style to justify your reasons why Oyedepo should not be criticized.

I think if ypu want to have an opinion about this things, you should at least do your research about them.

How many Apostle did Jesus call? 12, how many disciples? Can you count them?

Out of the disciples, He chose Apostles. Many are called, but Few are Chosen. Try to underatand what that means.

JesusSonOfGod:
You are free from generational curses through repentance (being born again) and not by some kind of prayer points that sound like incantation.

Wow, this is so good. Thank you.

Ofemmanu1:
Its okay bro, I withdraw my statement.

Happy Weekend!

Same to you sir.

BluntBoy:
Show me a Bible verse where Christ said other churches should be established after the one He established.

Oga which Church did Jesus establish?

BluntBoy:
Are you a pastor?

Na only Pastor dey dey anionted?

Every believer is anionted by the Holy Ghost feom redemtion.

Ofemmanu1:
IF you don't have thick skin, you won't go far.

moslems hav no thick skins, they only wants praises and no critics.

There maybe jihad going on in that islamic section that non moslems won't know.

Anyways, we don't fhuking care-let em create their threads and make comments all by themselves.

Whenever its a Christian thread, yall, mofo's are welcome.

Don't call them Mofos nah. Davidson said we can't win them over like that. And he is right.

Sir Davidson, i repent from today. Abeg incaase i slip and you notice, pls rebuke me. Our father rebukes thise He loves, so your rebuke will be welcomed.

BluntBoy:
Are you anointed

Yes sir, i am.

BluntBoy:
Nonsense, you messed up when you compared pastoral ministry to carpentry. While a carpenter can train his son to be a carpenter, a pastor can only teach his son the Word and not make him a pastor. You made it look like a pastor cannot begat a medical doctor. That a pastor must begat a pastor.

I asked why Jesus didn't endeavour to call his brothers? After all, the disciples did not just believe in Him. They were first called and it still took a long while before they truly believed He was the son of God.

Anyway, all this is inconsequential. God never called anyone to establish churches so Living Faith Church and the other churches we have are man-made and false.

According to you abi? Jesus is confirming His words there. This na jolosy abi?

Ishilove:
So where do the females get their money?

From High profile prostitution.

They sleep with Presidents of African Countries and get paid in US. Dollars.

MuttleyLaff:
Mind your language.
Put some respect in who God is,
into what God is all about
and what God represents.

Pack in this shameless habit of trivialising God

Brother, you seem not to know him. Satan can not respect God.

bennyann:
it is finished!

No, it is not Sis. God has Provisions for His own.

Arondizuogu:
Blah blah blah.

Go into your LDS Mormons and leave the Bible an Christians alone. What you don't know is bigger than you.

BluntBoy:
Very ignorant comparison.

Really?

BluntBoy:
Is pastoral ministry the same as carpentry Why didn't Jesus endeavour to call his brothers as His disciples instead of calling strangers like Peter and the others

See? You just jump to vent your anger on me without reading the guy i quoted the response to. He criticized Oyedepos sons for being Preachers becos their father is, hence i asked him, wasn't Jesus a carpenter because his father Joseph was?
You went off the grid talking about Jesus calling his brothers into ministry, do you know His brothers never believed in Him until He died and resurrected? And, do you also know they all went into Ministry afterwards?

The James the head of the first Church in Jerusalem who King Herod killed, do you know he was Jesus' direct young brother? Do you? Everyone in Jesus Family, His mother included went into Ministry after His resurrection. Read your Bible before you attack people.

BluntBoy:
The way you people make silly excuses for these gods of men is really disgusting and a ridicule to the Word of God.

You know what? I think you people shd keep your mouths away from our business. You don't know jack in the Word of God, hence you can't know what is a ridicule to it.

Eyes have not seen, Ears have not heard, niether has it entered into the hearts of men, what God has prepared to those who love Him 1Cor 2:9.[

What Oyedepo has now is nothing compared to what God has in stock for His servants. Wait and see, the greater than Oyedepo are rising up. Prepare to hang yourself becos you won't be able to do anything about it.


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Lionbutterfly:
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Eyaah. Weytin make that young man shed that strong tear? Na you be dat? Sorry o.

hopefulLandlord:
Lmao! nice humour

This https://www.ined.fr/en/everything_about_population/demographic-facts-sheets/faq/more-men-or-more-women-in-the-world/ supports your claim and even shows more men are being born but tend to die faster than women

I also feel while I understand the humour, Men take more risks with their lives because of the expectations of the society

Yes. It's natural for a man to rule, to do so, they need to take risks which will eventually put them in a position of authority, in the process, some get killed.

Even Bible said, a lazy man should not be given food, they do any kind of work to eat and act like Kings before their women.

Na because dem don die finish that's why women have to work like them. The stupid ones are even trying to take such risks too, saying 'What a man can do, a woman can do better'. Idiots.

Ronpet777:
I stand with u.

I am with you too.